In this now historical VHS find Christopher Hitchens excoriates Michael Moore's film on Dennis Miller's CNBC show. Both Hitchens and Miller were supporters of the ill-conceived Iraq War.
I can’t believe Dennis got away with calling Hitch “Chris” without getting corrected. Let’s just say Hitch was not in the mood for a Hitchslap. Miss that gorgeous bastard, miss his superior intellect and thesaurus rhetoric, the world is indeed poorer without Hitch in it.
@@nowheretorun98 Yes indeed, you had to be a friend of the great man for calling it like that, somehow that irritated him, as he once said abruptly to another offender …” I promise my mom I wasn’t going to shortened” prove that all of us certainly have our eccentricities.
Yep, and we were wrong to leave. We just put them back into the dark ages by handing it over. Think about all the women and girls there who are about to see what few rights they have extinguished.
It's too bad Christopher felt this way, it was his biggest blind spot. When no WMDs were found, no nuclear program, no anything the only justification he had for the war was that Saddam was a bad person and needed to be removed. It's too bad.
That’s actually wrong. You have clearly never read a book he recommendeds A Bomb in my Garden written by one of Saddams nuclear scientist about how he was ordered to bury a centrifuge which you can look up as the book isn’t lying. Also that wasn’t his only argument. As he would say, it shows you know nothing about Saddam. He (and any sane person) wanted him removed because of his repeated invasion and attempted annexation of neighboring territory, his genocidal activities only stopped by outside force, his dealing in illegal weapons (which he did have and you don’t know where they went id love to know), and funding and sheltering terrorists. I don’t blame you for being ignorant because EVERYONE who talks about how Hitchens was so wrong about Iraq 1. know nothing about the country and it’s history and saddams regime 2. Have never read a word of Hitchens on Iraq or the Iraq war. Read maybe ONE book dude. Maybe starting with Hitchens book on the Iraq war “A Long Short War”
WMDs were not why Christopher was for the removal of Saddam. And he did have those weapons, we don’t know where they went. He did have a nuclear program, read A Bomb in my Garden by Iraqi nuclear scientist Mahdi Obeidi. Stop believing the left wing populist lies about a country you know nothing about PLEASE.
@@howdydoo9148as Hitch said himself, if someone says “Saddam is a bad guy you know that person knows nothing about Iraq”. Your comment shows he was right about that.
Hitchens' scoff that Bush allowed the Saudis to leave is trite at best. Clark may have claimed it was his call but where's the evidence he wasn't acting in proxy? I mean come on.
@@mervinprone indeed and i think he was right especially with not having hindsight, which people forget, and just having the info in 2003. It was the right move the remove saddam, and he should have been removed after he tried to genocide the kurds or other iraqis after the war in 1991 too. Have you read or listened to Hitchens’s memoir?
@@1984isnotamanual I’ve read parts of Hitch 22 and I’ve read what he said about Iraq, the four conditions under which a country gives up the right to its sovereignty, the inevitable collapse of Iraq anyway (and with that, a vacuum that might be filled with the worst elements of human civilization), the responsibility to deal with Saddam Hussein because The CIA was instrumental in installing him in the first place, the error he said GWB was correcting for his father, who let him stay in power. The attempted purchase of weapons of mass destruction from North Korea. So, essentially he makes anyone look foolish for just saying “but there were no weapons of mass destruction found” - the overused argument used by people against the Iraq war, most of whom have only cursory knowledge of the situation. Ironically, the best argument I’ve heard against Hitchens’ position was from his own brother, Peter, who claimed Christopher was being far too idealistic and utopian. That it’s not the role of the USA to go around replacing rogue governments.
@@mervinprone yes but Hitchens countered that by saying it was our role to save Iraq from total collapse and try to make the democracy work because of our past collusion with the Saddam regime, and because Saddam was letting jihadist fighters fleeing our army in Afghanistan, this at a time when even Pakistan and Saudi Arabia was kicking Al Qaeda types out, saddam was welcoming them in. Far to dangerous to place to bets on a stable, non-jihadist iraq without our intervention. Oh and i ask because in yourube the hitch-22 audiobook has been posted for free. Hitch reads it himself! Check out the chapter on Iraq, it has Mesopotamia in the name and it is in part two (the audiobook is posted in two videos)
The USA spent a trillion dollars in Afghanistan... And then a few guys in long white dresses living in caves and driving around in pick up trucks kicked their American asses and the yanks bailed out... Like Vietnam.
They werent kicking asses. Theybwere losing far more then america in terms of bodies. But with help from the caves and guerilla warfare the war went on far far longer than the american public wanted, just like vietnam. Thats how they won that war, by just lasting.
@Mark Callaghan - Your comment is pathetic! I DON'T think there was anything wrong about Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" anyway! By the way, the two George Bushes were truly DISGRACEFUL U.S. presidents that were responsible for the conflict in Iraq as well as the Middle East by U.S. military forces years ago!
I like Hitch but he is wrong on Iraq, it set in place a scenario where millions died or were displaced, all based on a lie. That aside Moore is not a particularly good film maker.
@@a13xdunlop - Yeah! I guess you may be somewhat right on that. But still, I really do not think that Michael Moore is a bad filmmaker and he does deal with certain issues even IF the solutions are not easy to find anyway.
@@robertpolanco1973 i do not think he is a bad film maker, just not a particularly good one. I watch his films though as the content is always interesting.
Asymmetrical damage to a building would never cause symmetrical collapse. 9/11 was unquestionably done by controlled demolition. There are more important issues for the brilliant Mr Hitchens to shine a light on, than someone else´s attempts to find the truth.
Personally, although I agreed with Christopher Hitchens on his critical views of people like Henry Kissinger and Mother Teresa, I could NOT stand his criticism of Michael Moore and his documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," as well! After all, I am so disgusted with Mr. Moore's legion of HATERS who just want to get away with their alternative facts that just DON'T fit well with their criticism!
@@niceguy1774 That comment of yours IS so ridiculous beyond this point about Michael Moore and it is so typical of right-wing fools like yourself believing anything coming from his legion of HATERS and DETRACTORS because Mr. Moore has been entitled to spread his message about the faults of U.S. foreign and domestic policies for his documentaries for decades. Like grow up, will ya?
@@robertpolanco1973 "Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man" is a great book. Especially if you weren't swift enough to catch the shadow shifts on Charlton Heston in Moore's "Gunz Bad!" crocumentary.
@@niceguy1774 Well, I read that horrible book years ago and I DON'T accept the arguments presented in it about Michael Moore. After all, I even saw the two right-wing numbnuts in a documentary that was made as a response to "Fahrenheit 9/11" and I HATED them as well.