I hate that journalists even engage in stupid conversations like this. Objectivity is not about giving every view point, it’s about giving facts in context of the reality we all live in.
Millions of people have served in the military across the branches. There are different missions being done simultaneously, and every single service member has a role. They all serve this country and we are grateful for their service, no matter how long they serve or in what capacity.
@@lawrenceleverton7426It’s like you’re crapping on the sacrifices, all those road marches, battalion runs, PT exam, NTC’s, field exercises man I can go and on
@@TM-ru5ec I've been there. but when you show a Lack Of Integrity including Stolen Valor. Than all that service means absolutely nothing to me and to other Veterans alike. Fool. To have that stigma hovering over your head is down right intentional, quite foolish and deservingly heavy. The CNO in 1996 felt that Massive Load and ended up Killing Himself. Be safe out there and above all be truthful.
As a U.S. Army veteran, which Chuck Todd is not, it is absolutely stolen valor. Walz was a Master Sergeant (E8) and separated service as an E8. He did not attend or complete the necessary training to be promoted officially to E9, a Sergeant Major. Furthermore, he was not deployed to a theater of operation (war zone) to be eligible for the “Command” prefix and rank of CSM (E9). Walz is lying when he claims to be a retired CSM. The media could very easily Foia his DD214 and accurate report on his false claims. Chuck Todd shows stolen valor if he claims to be a journalist / reporter. He is nothing more than a DNC operative on TV.
@@DM_Bluddworth deployment has nothing to do with commend. And the public has no right to his DD 14. We have been waiting since 2016 for trumps returns and transcripts.
As an American with two brothers in US Marine Core one with multiple stints in Vietnam, the other in Okinawa, what does 24 years of service equate to you ,you might want to lay off your orange Kool aid, your embarrassing yourself
Why do these talking heads keep saying Walz"left" the military? He retired after serving 24 years...and he earned that right to retire when he wanted to. It wasn't until two months later that his unit got orders to Iraq.
He will. This guy has no honor. He lied about being a combat vet. That’s about the worst thing you could ever do as an American. He’s a coward and a phony. And I’m a Democrat. But I’m a patriot first.
All service members consider themselves "a band of brothers/sisters". They never degrade another especially for policaĺ gain. They stand TOGETHER not against each other!!
That's a lie. I served 3 years in Iraq in some of the heaviest fighting in Ramadi. Sure he served in the national guard as a field artillery guy, but for him to say he fought overseas is BS. As someone who nearly got killed multiple times while fighting for this country I'll gladly call him out on being a stolen valor fraud.
As a Democrat, and resident of New Orleans, Louisiana, I will never forget what the State of Minnesota, and the Minnesota National Guard there did for the Gulf Coast in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. The Governor at that time took monies out of their own general fund to welcome, and help thousands of displaced New Orleanians up there. To insult a 24-year career National Guardsman from Minnesota like Trump campaign is doing right now, is insulting to all the people of Minnesota, as well as those of us on the Gulf Coast, many who were able to rebuild their lives thanks to the people of Minnesota.
When a high ranking officer or enlisted soldier retires the processes involved are complex and take time, you don't want any problems with the VA or benefits you should be receiving, also the command structure will need to move slots and personnel around so there is no gap in coverage. Starting this process 9 months to a year out is very common so his retirement should have been started well before his unit was given notice to deploy.
I believe his statement was that his unit and he were soon going to be deployed to the war zone and he would be going to fight. If he new he was going to be retiring before then, why did he say that? He has the opportunity to deny he lied and those statements he has made are on video tape and online for everyone to see. When others have said he was a retired CSM and that he had combat experience he did not bother to correct them. His comment about banning AR 15s because they are a weapon of war which he carried in combat is a joke. AR 15s have never been carried in war nor did he ever carry any kind of weapon in war. I knew a year before I retired when and where I was going to retire. He retired because he was afraid of going with his men into combat. As to being a coach, he was an assistant coach. Enough of this attempt at glory by a liar and dirt bag. Even Harris' campaign advertisements are being changed to reflect his misstatements (LIES.) I will never vote for this train wreck. Demonrats have done enough damage to this country. Time to MAGA.
You don't know what you are talking about. In the position of CSM of a combat arms battalion, he knew months in advance that his unit was going to be called up. Walz is a liar and a coward. And so are you.
The service of military personnel that serve in peacetime is also necessary to the maintenance of our military strength. Those that train and maintain our military strength also serve with pride and their service should also be recognized and applauded.
@@idowrk8682 If you're real then, you should know this claim has been debunked. There is proof he retired months before it was decided his unit was to be deployed to run for Congress. He served 24 years.
@@julieanderson100 I’m 100% real and one of those vets he “fought” for. Congressional service doesn’t give him the right to hand way his lies about his service. Yes he serviced 24 years but it’s the stuff he says about his service that is a lie. Period.
Stolen Valor claim is just ridiculous, this all is due to two men he served with who have clear political motives writing a letter claiming he promised to go with them and abandoned them last minute. Even though all the evidence says otherwise, and they waited till a decade later to say this despite him being in politics the whole time. He was obviously against the iraq invasion, which is the correct moral position to have had. He put in for retirement months before they were told they would deploy, and made it clear he was running for congress well before that. His rank technically was reduced slightly when he retired due to not serving as the rank long enough, but nobody denies that…hardly “stolen valor” he is still one of if not the highest rank to get elected to serve in congress. The only thing that can be criticized is his comment about carrying a firearm, which he obviously meant while deployed and during training which he did. Vance plays up being a marine even though he never saw combat either and wasn’t in a role that would have ever seen it,
Letting the attack scare you away from showcasing his service is exactly what they hope for. He served 25 yrs and wanted to run for congress. Was he supposed to wait until he served 31 years
@@Getyouranglesportsthis is also not new this is coming from people he served with and the thing with using his rank in political ads but that rank doesn't match what he was given because of certain reasons is interesting
@@Getyouranglesportsis astonishing how people are trying to make this a nothing burger. We’re not Trumpers and our family has combat vets. This is a matter of character that can’t be overlooked regardless of party
It wasn't tRump saying it directly. He got Shady Vance to say it. Ironically Shady Vance claims to have been a combat marine in Iraq. He actually never got anywhere near any forward bases or front-lines. He worked so far back in the safe zone thst he had air-conditioning in his office and in his housing. Regards from a Tom :)
Agreed but did you ever hear one of our humble ww2 DDay veterans exagerate his own importance in the war....the exaggeration is the shameful part of what Walz did, not that the years he did serve in a non combat role should not be appreciated. Too bad because now they are overshadowed by the fact he stole valor from those who actually did carry weapons into combat.
It's a f-ing non-issue. The dude had hearing problems from heavy artillery. And, he was thinking about running for Congress. _In late 2002, he was ordered to appear before a medical retention board about the hearing impairment. After waiting for a decision for months, he was given clearance to serve out the remaining years of his final six-year enlistment._ _Medical records show that in 2005 Walz underwent stapedectomy surgery, a procedure in which damaged bones inside the ear are replaced with a prosthesis. He said it has improved his hearing._
Most people don’t understand about medical review boards and how they can force you to retire or just kick you out if they find something wrong with you and they certainly don’t allow you to deploy if you don’t pass. Most of them haven’t even served a year let alone 24. I’m a veteran of the Minnesota National Guard and I’m gonna be happy to vote for him.
Walt said he carried a rifle in combat that’s a flat out lie He found out his unit was about to be deployed to Iraq so he retired, leaving his unit without a leader
The way Walz allowed Minneapolis to burn is the most shameful of all. He turned his back in the police department in favor of looters. He knew of the lies surrounding the GF situation and he didn’t care. How could anyone vote for that?
Do you do ANY investigative reporting? There are SEVERAL articles that explain things from THE MINNESOTA NATIONAL GUARD stating that Waltz applied to leave the Guard 2 MONTHS BEFORE the deployment order.
There is more to this, than most people understand. He had hearing loss, even if he had wanted to deploy more than likely the medical review boards would not have let him. he served 24 years that’s four years past when he could’ve retired. His entire life has been service of some kind or another to his community, most people that are talking all this smack don’t understand anything about the National Guard. I served 8 years active and 15 years in the mn national guard. And as far as him being demoted to an E8 that could’ve been that he couldn’t get a slot for his sgt major school or because he didn’t have three years after getting the rank to keep it for retirement. And all these people talking smack, how many of them have actually served in any capacity?
@nuqwestr His 20 year stint ran out around Sept 11th attacks. He re-enlisted and then retired 4 years later. Some months later his unit got notice they were going to be deployed. There are extra complications such as hearing loss from artillery fire and corrective surgery - also he and his wife were struggling to start (or add to?) their family and a previous deployment to Italy had complicated that. Oh and you don't get much notice or have much idea about where you are going until you go. Regards from a Tom :)
Jimmy Carter saying he's hanging on to vote for Harris is one heck of a statement for the elderly, sick and falling down. He's, in essence, saying...I'm ready to go once i know the land I served will make it. That'll get around to hospitals, nursing homes and retirement centers.
GOD, THIS IS WHY AMERICANS ARE SO SICK OF ALL THESE NEWS OUTLETS. BLOWING UP STUPID CRAP LIKE THIS. THIS STATION KNOWS GOOD AND GOD DANG WELL. THE J.D. STATEMENTS ARE RIDICULOUS. YET INSTEAD OF DISMISSING THE STUPID QUESTION ON THE SPOT. THEY PULL A PANAL,OR ROUND TABLE TO DEBATE THIS STUPID STUFF.
@@notavailable4596 he served 24 years!! Are you kidding? start at 19:50 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_SKektapyaE.htmlsi=OQzUXXZzQWj9t4uN
You have your caps key on and you need to use a good grammar and spell check. By the way, Vance's statements are factual and true. Even Harris' campaign press releases are admitting that Walz is a liar. I have seen the video footage with Walz lying. Who would even vote for someone who wastes taxpayer funds for education by diverting it for tampons in boys restrooms and locker rooms. Please....
Walz was a Sgt Major. Even if he went to Iraq, he wouldn't have been in the field. He would have been the leading enlisted commander. This is a non story. Just like JD Vance was a public affairs officer.
No he wasn't. He retired as a Master Sergeant. He had certain obstacles to overcome to be an actual SM but failed to do so. So he reverted back to MS. Stolen Valor if he stated otherwise. Which he did.
When JD Vance joined the Marines he raised his and promised to protect this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Apparently when he was discharged from the Marines he thought that oath went away. Veterans know that oath never goes away. But apparently it did for Vance. He runs along side a man who's facing charges of attempting to overthrow the very country Vance swore to protect. A man who has disrespected fallen soldiers calling them losers, and even said of a US Senator who served and was a POW 'my heroes don't get captured'. Vance has claimed Tim Walz has stolen valor but can't tell us what it is. Vance dishonors the Marine Corps. No political position is worth selling your integrity and your honor.
Mr. Todd, didn't you see the great embarrassing clip of JD Vance rushing up to VP Harris's Air Force Two Plane on the tarmac in Wisconsin and complaining to a very silent press starring him in the face, that he'll soon be on Air Force Two Plane in three months and that she's not speaking to the press ? Talk about your favored Vance doing that, Todd.
Of course they’re not going to show that - just continue to show what they think we should see. This needs to come to an end show the lies and the spreading of hatred and division in our country.
Vance did that to get the your mainstream media to interact with Harris on some level. It worked and she ran from reporters. She hasn't been interviewed since she was installed as your nominee. Now shut up sheeple and vote for her.
Yeah, Vance was a combat correspondent. For an aviation arm of Marine Corp. Which means, he literally interviewed pilots for 6 months, from the safety of the air base.
The same vet experience as Al Gore. You going to smear his record too? When did you serve? At least Vance went to iraq--- Walz didn't and lied about his rank to cash in.
@@yakidin63 Oh, and Campaign rally in Warren Ohio on October of 2022, JD Vance claimed he learned about discipline when he was involved in countless incursions while serving in Iraq. Learn about your candidate before you try to back him up.
Walz made his decision to leave service to run for Congress a year before it was decided to send his unit to combat. I am beyond frustrated when mainstream media (whom I used to religiously follow) do not know or chooses not to cite such facts. Those who served with him and the military have corroberated this.
My spouse went on that deployment, his orders were for 729 days. That deployment permanently disabled THOUSANDS of MN Nattys. Walz fought in congress to get more benefits for the Veterans he served with.
"I served with Tim Walz in Congress and watched him vote against veterans on the Mission Act. On May 16, 2018 all 231 R's and 117 Democrats including Sheila Jackson-Lee, Maxine Waters and even Eric Swalwell voted for the most important pro-veteran legislation passed in a generation giving our veterans better access to health care. Not Tim Walz! Why? Because it allowed President Trump to keep his promise to take care of our veterans." -Rep Mark Walker
@@citizenbobx he didn’t support it bcuz the current budget caps in 2018 would not allow for the Mission Act level of spending to occur without requiring huge cuts to existing VA programs. Fast forward to today, right now, there is a $15 BILLION shortfall in the VA budget that is directly effecting patient care in every state. 🤔🤔🤔 Dude, he was right.
It’s great to look at the crowd at these Harris/Walz rally’s and see normal enthusiastic looking people, and not the freak show of hate filled weirdos that follow Trump.
Attacking somebody's character when your character and Trump's character is so suspect is not very smart but that is the Trump/Vance way. Walz is a fantastic pick for VP, he was 42 years old when he retired from the military after serving 24 years to run for Congress in 2005. Walz has nothing to apologize for. Shapiro's speech that day was great and could have very well swung a lot of voters where Harris could win Pennsylvania with Walz as her running mate especially as Biden will be made a folk hero for stepping aside in the race. Harris' husband and step children are Jewish so Vance's argument about Harris avoiding Shapiro because he is Jewish will not get anywhere. It just shows Trump and Vance are racists that think other people will even give any regard to their statements, just like Trump's black jobs quote.
Thats not the point, Walz was in command and abandones his platoon right before they left so they demoted him but he still uses his command title even tho hes not and he claims to have gone to war but he didnt, its not about character hes actually just lying its on record by the government
Whenever a service person is deployed outside the US, especially in support of a war, it is inherently dangerous. The USS Cole was bombed while refueling in Yemen.
I retired from the Army after 25 years of service, and I was an enlisted Soldier and leader like Governor Tim Walz was. For republicans like Donald Trump and JD Vance to minimize the service of a Command Sergeant Major when they have dishonorably ridiculed both deceased and active duty military personnel makes me hope that military personnel think long and hard about who they vote for in a few months. To me, there should be absolutely no question that all military personnel, both retired and active, should vote for Vice President Harris and Governor Walz. Go Army!
@@bigtime9589 Whoever you are, you might want to consider learning more about the structure of Army rank. Command Sergeant Major and Sergeant Major is the same rank. Moving from one to the other is not a promotion or demotion. It is an appointment, based on the duties the Soldier is actually performing. So yeah, GTFOH!
@@DavidKeithWilliams-hg5nm That's MAGA for you right there, they're the political Karens of our time. Think they know everything with their 300-word vocabulary...thank you for standing up for yourself and not letting this person disrespect you.
A 4 yr office staff veteran & 7x draft dodger belittling a 24 yr active national guard veteran is absurd, the mere fact anyone believes trump/vances desperate mud slinging is insane.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Said every draft dodger. Hey come to think of it, Trump also against the Vietnam War. Any opinions on Biden's draft dodging?
@@darkgalaxy5548Biden received deferments as a college student and later as a law school student. His final deferment was a 1-Y because of asthma. He wasn't excused from the draft but would be called up only in emergency circumstances. He was never drafted.
Someone needs to educate shady on what stolen valor actually means. "Stolen Valor" is a term applied to the phenomenon of people falsely claiming military awards or medals they did not earn, service they did not perform, Prisoner of War experiences that never happened, and other tales of military actions that exist only in their minds.
What's really interesting is they are not comparing Vance's experience in the military to that of Walz, wonder why? Well, apparently "US senator from Ohio, Vance, 40, deployed to Iraq in 2005, as a military journalist. Despite his title - combat correspondent - he did not experience combat" Yea...I'd like to see that comparison. Vance is fake, he is attributing things to himself that he is attacking Walz for. Vance served as a corporal for 4 years. Whereas Walz served 24 years and earned the rank of Sgt. Major.
Agreed, only in Iraq six months writing uplifting stories for troops who were risking their lives. Vance chooses to go after someone who served 24 years, not his master, who dodged the draft and has no respect for the military,
Walz did not earn the rank of SGM. He never completed the sergeants major academy. Meaning he didn't earn that rank, if he did he would have retired as one.
Did he ever claim to be in combat? All of these comments here show how little you civilians understand about how the military works. Walz would have never in a million years even left the wire. He would have been sitting in an AC room like all the staff NCOs always do, especially considering his MOS was an artillery guy. I spent 3 years of my life in Iraq and saw major combat in Ramadi in 2006 as a weapons company infantry marine. I know how this all works more than 99.99% of people here do. So many clueless people here.
The National Guard isn't supposed to be deployed to a foreign war. Even though they were, Walz already had served 24 years which is way more than most and was also in his early 40s when he retired after serving more than half his life. That's EARNED Valor!!!!!!!
Walz served in the national guard, and when he was about to see real action, he bailed out. He never thought he would see any combat, just like many other reservists and guards
He lied about his rank after his discharge and used it to his advantage durring a election year,,,that's where the Stolen Valor comes in !!!what a bunch of dumb a$$'$
Also, he submitted his papers for congressional run months before he submitted his papers for retirement. So he had the intention to retire months before he retired.
WALZ clearly lied about his rank, plus he never carried a weapon in combat as he claimed. And he quit on his soldiers because he was afraid of going to Iraq. He abandoned his unit. The guys got no honor or valor. The military confirmed everything about him.
I shut you off because I'm tired of listening to the lies.I'm tired of all of this politics.I wanna know what they're going to do in the democratic party to fix the problem with the usa
I like the way that vice president Harris her campaign is focusing on the issues Donald Trump and JD Vance are just they should be more concerned about and I still have not heard them say what they can do for this country because Donald Trump does not plan on doing anything for this country he plans on lining his own Pockets monetarily the same way he did during his first Administration and I hope that people take note to that
He literally took a pay cut to become president. Day one policy: 1. Negotiate peace with Ukraine Russia war (something current administration is incapable of) 2. Bring back Fraking in the US (reduce inflation and prices) 3. Close the border (at least 10 mil illegals in the last 4 years sucking up welfare and taking jobs) What is Kamala's day one? And why isn't she doing it now
Vance’s attacks are disgusting. Any fair look at the facts shows that Walz neither lied about his service nor mischaracterized his rank. He retired after 24 years, months BEFORE his unit was told they’d be deployed. He obviously wasn’t trying to steal valor with the gun comment, as is demonstrated by the fact that he’s never claimed combat experience in any other context. He was clearly just contrasting army weapons of war and civilian weapons. Any other interpretation is dishonest. Vance should be ashamed of himself. Disgrace.
Mr. Vance, what do you think about the draft dodger Trump who tried to avoid to serve at all costs using all possible means. How do you compare Walz and Trump on their service to the country?
Trump was never military and was never paid a cent of US tax money for service. Tim walz got fat off US defense spending and left his brothers to die like à coward.
In the military we called reservists tampons bc they were only used once a month. He did nothing for 20 years and then left early when his unit deployed. I just listened to the replacement CSM and he has nothing good to say about walz. Imagine serving for 20 years getting a position of leadership and then abandoning because you may actually have to do your job. He is worse than trump yes and 95% of the military feels this way. Trump abandoned the kurds but avoided war. Not perfect but much better than walz
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk debunked. No lies. Continue on. Maybe you'll gain some courage yourself and actually try to attack policy instead of military service next time.
@@derekh1593Walz did not lie about anything like that. Tell me why Trump got to steal classified documents and talk about them to uncleared foreign nationals. That’s treason and espionage.
Don't let them gaslight you. He stayed 4 years past retirement. Decided to retire a year out and then his until was tapped to deploy AFTER. Shady Vance was a writing articles in the AC nice and safe w Sr commend for 5 months. He didn't fight. Ns he has a lot of nerve when he's running w a draft dodger.
JD Vance works for Guy who paid a doctor to say he had… Bone spurs so Walz did better than that! I’m a veteran, but I am not a combat veteran. We both serve under the same oath. The threat is real whether it is actual or Potential. There are many non-combat veterans that have given their lives as they have served out this oath. ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
JD Vance only served four years, in a non-combat role. Walz served for 24 years, and in combat theaters. Basically, if you are in theater, and wear a uniform, you are a target. In any case, Walz's MOS was heavy artillery, which is not normally in the forward edge of the battle area. Walz retired months before his old unit was deployed, according to unit records.
@3338MAN writing news reports in Iraq never in battle lol. That great war that wasn't started with a lie right? Weird you are cool with the draft dodger with your route there.
Tim Walz retired from the Army a full two months before he even found out about their deployment to Iraq, it then took a year for them to go. Very disingenuous calling it "Stolen Valour" the man served 24 years, ended up with ear damage from his time as an artilleryman and should be respected and thanked for his long service. If we want to get picky, Vance was a public relations correspondent in the Army and the worst injuries he ever faced was from multiple paper cuts in his air conditioned office in the Green Zone. A question for JD Vance, or whatever name he is going by now "Can you get a purple 💜 for paper cuts?"
Military has a 20 year retirement, when a person has 20 years of service, they are eligible to retire. It is normal for a person to "put in their papers" to retire before a deployment. With 24 years of service, Walz was entitled to retire and did. There is no stolen valor in this act.
Let's keep in mind, Gov. Walz is 20 years older than vance; he had not just served his time, he was getting a little long in the tooth to be sent into combat but his rank is typically a trainer. REGARDLESS, post "swift boating", as a courtesy, veterans should not criticize anyone else's military service. But I guess this is just another courtesy republikkkans have forgotten, one of the reasons I am no longer a Republican. Personally, I'm grateful for everyone's military service whether they carry a gun in combat or not. They all deserve our respect for whatever they do to demonstrate their devotion to the security of our country. This conversation doesn't belong in the passion of partisan politics.
I don't think Tim Waltz is running on his military record😮 JD Vance needs to talk about his own running mate and how he avoided the draft and military service since he was 18 years old😊
@@wandagore8400 I don't think it is so much about his military record or Trump's lack of record as it is lying about your rank and that you saw combat when you quit and left your squadron. That is a coward. That is stolen valor that you did NOT earn.
@@aleececollamore6052 oh, I thought JD was a correspondence person,no combat. Walz trained soldiers no combat. But they both served. Trump was draft dodger! Never served .
@@wandagore8400 Trump never claimed to serve and JD went to a war zone but as far as I know never claimed to see combat or claimed he was a higher rank. Walz stolen valor is because he lied about his rank and about going to war. He also left his unit hanging because he was too big a coward to face deployment.
The folks coming at Walz for his service weren't going to vote for Harris anyway so why all the fake drama? Because they want the Dems thinking about it, they still believe it's the same ole Dems afraid of their own shadow, running from a fight scared to face the bully.. They pulled out that ole Republican playbook, when in doubt call character into question, call service into question, when the Dems do right say they ACTUALLY did wrong. Get that word out, make it a topic,that always scares those Dems. Walz is unlike any dude I have ever seen on the ticket his net worth is like $250,000 dollars! His father a Korean war vet, told him at age 17 to join the national guard be a career citizen soldier, stay long enough to get that GI bill those VA benefits. He did that plus held a fulltime job at some factory, went to college on the GI bill. I never heard of Chadron state university..Coached Football, taught high school got his masters degree YADA YADA YADA Y. But what raised my eyebrows was his service AFTER service..yes he left after 24 yrs yes before he was deployed . But it was to serve in congress he had political aspirations to make change. Many talk about it none actually do.. he won went to Washington fought for veterans, pushed back on more troops going to Iraq, fought for farmers, told Banks no we ain't bailing you out! he voted NO! All while representing the most conservative district in the state of Minnesota, one that never votes democratic never HE WON 3 TERMS!.. Plus he was once NRA certified they loved him and he loves Guns! so the playbook say's muddy the waters on this guy .
I posted this on another video but this applies here also: A lot of people just don't understand what it means to be in the guard/reserve and what impacts this has on one's life and career. The fact that Walz made it through 24 years in the Guard in itself, is absolutely amazing. Service in the Guard doesn't just cover readiness for war. The Guard has other duties, as required by the state. Guard units provide support or direct action to help contain and suppress fires, they provide aid and rescue support for hurricanes, floods and tornadoes. The guard supports local law enforcement during times of civil unrest and provides security for events like rallies and protests. In states where there are active weather emergencies, the guard could be called up for a significant amount of time, and could be loaned by their governors to other states that ask for additional support. When Guardsman deploy for federal service, when they get released, they go right back to supporting these emergencies. So what impact do all of these activities have on members of the Guard? When called up for emergencies, they grab their gear and report to the field. Called up in the middle of the night? They grab their gear and head to the field. Mobilized for a year for federal service? You tell your boss I got to go, I'll see you in a year, but Please keep my job for me when I get back. Yes, they have to leave their regular jobs, and go serve. After 20 years, you get tired of all that, so requesting retirement is an acceptable option, you are NOT abandoning your fellow soldiers, because there's alway going to be another soldier that will step up to take your place, the reason why we have training and leadership academies. Also, he didn't quit serving his country, when he decided to serve in Congress, this is service for the entire country, and as Governor of his state, he serves the people, and as the Commander in Chief of the state National Guard, he's extending his leadership with experience and training gained by actually serving as member of the military. Stolen valor? I think not.
Thank you for explaining what it means and the sacrifices made by those serving in the National Guard. Like many who serve, we take what they do for granted. There is no doubt that Governor Walz is to be admired for his service and commitment to this country. THERE WILL BE NO "SWIFT BOATING" HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARRIS-WALZ 2024. ✍💙🗽
Claiming to be a combat veteran because of support of OEF in Italy and claiming he retired as a Command Sergeant Major when he failed to do the requirements he said that he would do is absolutely stolen valor.
Bullsh*t. I have served in the reserves and over 20 years of active duty. Nothing about a weekend warrior doing 24 years being amazing. He threw away $3,000 a month in retirement pay by retiring when he did. In less than 2 more years he would have drawn an extra $36,000) a year. He was yellow to his core. How can you support such a dirt bag?
The Minnesota National Guard has already debunked this. Governor Walz put in his retirement notice several months before it was announced that his unit would go overseas. Governor Walz served honorably and went on to help pass legislation that helps veterans to this day. Please get your facts straight before making pronouncements.
Chuck Todd is correct in saying that this accusation of “stolen valor” is absurd, but the rest of his analysis basically entertaining Vance’s argument as somewhat valid is ridiculously off. Walz served 24 years and reached a very high rank during his tenure. Not deploying does not diminish his service to the country. Most military veterans never deploy overseas-and that’s what we want. Trump, meanwhile, avoided the draft. And JD Vance was never in combat either. And his tenure in the military was quite short.
My family has served in the military for generations. Vance’s comments about Walz’s 24 year service are disgusting. My Independent vote will be going to Harris/Walz.
I too had 24 years N. Guard. I knew at 44 years old I would only get my men killed if I stayed in. I left my squad in the hands of two excellent younger NCOs. Everybody in my squad came home alive. Vance can stuff his keyboard up his you know what.
There is more to this, than most people understand. He had hearing loss, even if he had wanted to deploy more than likely the medical review boards would not have let him he served 24 years that’s four years past when he could’ve retired. His entire life has been service of some kind or another to his community, most people that are talking all this smack don’t understand anything about the National Guard. I served 21 years.
you mean he decided to take the 20 year option of leaving and not fulfill his 6 year re-up he signed 5 years before. IF he had fulfilled his commitment, he would have had to deploy, which he did not. He also didn't do any of the work to "retire" as Command MSGT and he didn't complete the paperwork to seamlessly separate from active duty. Apparently, he was in a hurry to skee-daddle. You don't walk out on a WARNORD.
@@Joe_Narbaiz debunked. He signed up for 6 years of service and only “retired” after he found out about the coming deployment. In 2003, he signed up for the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy, a two-year course that requires two years of additional service upon completion. When Walz quit the military, he also quit the academy without finishing.
They could also consider that he was 41 years old, and had already give 24 years to service. Most people don't stay in the reserves that long... retirement is offered at 20 years.
But just think how dirty it was back then. Republicans knew it was garbage and you know what they didn’t stand up and say hold on this is garbage. Remember how Republicans hated when John McCain said no that’s wrong. When the man said I have a conscience I won’t allow this. That’s the problem with the Republican party. They have an anything to win mentality.
Walz joined the Army National Guard at age 17 and was with them for 24 years. He left just before the Iraqi war started rolling out, with much criticism for doing so, to run for congress in 2005. If he was 17 when he joined, and was in service for 24 years, that would mean he retired from service at age 38. He was demoted for not finishing requisite courses to hold the title Commander Sargent Major. JD Vance served 3 years (2005 - 2007) in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing as a military journalist in Iraq and did not experience combat. He was a corporal. Walz has championed for veterans for his entire political career. I'd say JD should be the last person to criticize Walz's military career, no matter what the real deal is. JD can throw stones, Walz can lob torpedoes at him.
Biden also received 4 deferments including 1 medical deferment claiming he had asthma when he was 12 , Trump’s medical deferment was only temporary and when they had the draft that year his number was too high to be drafted , Bill Clinton on the other hand actually was drafted and received two notices to report
He knows nothing about serving. We are brothers and sisters in arms whether you served ONE day or 50 years....we understand that one day might be the day you die for your country.
@CEH477, he served 24 years, four more than he was required to serve for full retirement. I notice Vance isn’t criticizing Trump for digging the draft with his bone spurs excuse. I’d rather be in a foxhole with Walz than in one with Vance or Trump.
Vote Vets labeled this claim "Bulls--t," and then explained why. "Tim submitted his retirement request to the U.S. Army National Guard months prior to the notification of his unit's deployment," they explained. "His unit was fully sourced (staffed), and his request was approved. He retired in May 2005."
It's amazing the foolishness folks are saying about the Gov......but someone dodges serving their country numerous times, and they are okay with that. He talked crazy about John McCain, and they are cool with that.
@@Shanise866 new video has emerged of Walz saying he dealt with PTSD when he returned in 2004. Don't you see he diminishes those who actually served in war .
If you look at the video, he said "the type of weapons of war that I carried, in war is the only (garbled due to to crowd noise). It's pretty clear even with the garbled output that he intented to say something like "in war is the only place they should be carried". The campaign should make that clear.
@@HOBBLEdoGaGA In his 24 years of service, the Governor carried, fired and trained others to use weapons of war innumerable times. He trained NATO soldiers in Italy in 2003 during the war to help support our Front-line troops. There isn't really confusion here, there are people trying to create a wedge issue and perform character assassination by attacking a veteran's military service record.
Okay so Walz joined in 1981, so under the High Three retirement program his retirement pay was based on the highest rank he held for 3 years. You can always put your retirement papers in rather than take the rank. This isn't going to work, the guy did 24 years. Finally if you were born in 1975-1983 you were the person that the Army was looking for to go fight in Iraq, since less than 7/10ths of 1 percent of Americans fought in Iraq, then a lot of you had better explain why YOU didn't raise your right hand and join. How is it posse able for the military to have missed recruitment goals with all you fake patriots were able to join?
There is more to this, than most people understand. He had hearing loss, even if he had wanted to deploy more than likely the medical review boards would not have let him he served 24 years that’s four years past when he could’ve retired. His entire life has been service of some kind or another to his community, most people that are talking all this smack don’t understand anything about the National Guard. I served 21 years. I had one Friend kicked out because his unit was deploying and he was allergic to bees and did not pass his medical review board.
@@agiraffe3673 You really think these people have any clue what a deployment work up is like, and the physical? He probably would have not deployed. They think the National Guard just goes to the airport and flies to Baghdad.
Excellent point! 99 percent of these anti-Walz commenters haven't volunteered to serve a day. But if they're in the age range to enlist, I can point them to a friendly recruiter right now 😂
This is why so many people are frustrated by the media. This story is a nonissue. Most people in the military never get close to combat, even when deployed. I doubt there's a single veteran who believes that Walz said anything inappropriate. I also doubt there are many who care that he left to run for public service. But the media can't resist blowing the story up for absolutely no reason. They're doing Republicans' dirty work for them.
There is more to this, than most people understand. He had hearing loss, even if he had wanted to deploy more than likely the medical review boards would not have let him. he served 24 years that’s four years past when he could’ve retired. His entire life has been service of some kind or another to his community, most people that are talking all this smack don’t understand anything about the National Guard. I served 8 years active and 15 years in the mn national guard. And as far as him being demoted to an E8 that could’ve been that he couldn’t get a slot for his sgt major school or because he didn’t have three years after getting the rank to keep it for retirement. And all these people talking smack, how many of them have actually served in any capacity?
Any actual veteran who isn't full of BS will tell you that NO ONE who has served 24 years is going to be looked down on for retiring. So the idea that Walz will have ANY difficulty going into military groups to talk is just showing your lack of knowledge on how the military community views 20+ years of service. My husband is a retired Marine. All he had to hear was 2 facts...1) how many years of service for Walz vs Vance, and 2) what was their final rank when they left service. He then immediately said "Shady Vance is full of crap. Walz should be honored for his amazing service."
The most disorganized scatter-shot grasping at straws nonsense I've ever seen come out of the Republican Party. Please dear god keep doing this. Just keep doing exactly this. Keep Trump, Keep Vance, just stay the course. Please.
