CinePi - The Open Source Cinema Camera 

Lens choice would depend on the lens mount, with a project like this i would be shocked if the lens mount wasn't modular since cine cameras already have interchangeable lens mounts

Lenses are pricy for a reason. You couldnt easily open source some high quality glass as a lot of the construction is company secrets. But this project being open source means that you probably dont need to worry about the mount type

​@@Probable.Orangeyou wouldn't download a Leica 🥴

​@@Probable.Orangethe designs are out there and might as well be open. The precision to make them well.... yeah there's a reason we're not making em at home lol

​@@jacobheinrich4919im not familiar with cinema lens mounts but i dont see any reason why it would be particularly precise or difficult to make one at a machine shop. Precision is cheap nowadays anyway, someone who knows what they're doing can make something way more precise than a camera mount if they have the right tools in their garage.

He said there are other sensors 1:05 … He keeps mentioning 4k so im a little confused about this and why they made the housing suitable for viewfinder vs small or with lens priority. Lil leery about sizable lenses on that housing. 11:00 that rig and lens looks wonky af, everyone using obscure lenses from the 1960s on these things?

Up gradeable hardware has been tried and doesn’t work. Default hardware specs aare well balanced, better cameras usually ship with ALL of a better sensor, more CPU, better bandwidth, etc, when new models ship. And the new sensor tech will probably need a new heat sink design, etc. At the end you’re left with nothing worthwhile and the amount of skilled labour involved in the upgrade is nasty. Anyway, your camera body shouldn’t be a big part of your system costs - less than lights and lenses. So selling it and upgrading to a new body shouldn’t hurt that much, at least if you are one of the pros cinema cameras are meant for and are getting the tax breaks. Otherwise buy an old Canon and put magic lantern on it.

@@TheGreatAmphibian What about Red? They’re still in business and do sensor upgrades. A more open and technical user friendly version at a lower price point I think would be appreciated by many.

@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Actually RED are the poster child for NOT doing sensor upgrades. They said they were going to, but they have been largely or entirely discontinued for the reasons I gave. I think the last upgrade announced was 2019 and the only info on their sensor upgrade page is a list of abandoned ones…

​@@TrggrWarninghe's mistaken about it being 4k, it's HD. From what I can find it's the best camera module for the PI. Others might can be adapted for the Pi, but I don't know what would be involved in that. If someone was to make like a micro four thirds sensor module for the Pi, I would expect it to run 3x - 4x as much as the one mentioned (150-200 instead of 50). Whole project then approaches the cost of a camera from Panasonic. Seems like a neat project though. The fact that it uses lenses does give it an edge over a comparably priced Android phone.

Yeaahh, i mean theres LMMS but I just couldnt get the hang of it

@@clemente_01 Ardour is pretty nice.

​@@clemente_01lmms feels mid

hey dude, funny to run into you here

@@TruthDoesNotExist whats up

Eh, why? It's a terrible camera for far too much money. Get a decent 2nd hand camera for less that can run Magic Lantern = profit. No 3d printed garbage, better sensor, optics, controls etc.

Just ask some1 to help u out if u really needed it id print parts for u

Yeah but 2tb SSD cost 80$, people pay 150 dollars for like 240gb Cf express ? That pretty easy DNG workflow here, flawless editing, best image quality, RAW capability..... Its the best.

Fortunately a lotta people operate a business of 3d printing, some libraries have 3d printers you can commission and maybe there's a con or something you can hit up. 3d printing is becoming fairly mainstream because being able to just make a plastic (or various materials) bit for whatever you need is rather nifty.

@@DarkTrapStudio I have a crop mood modded EOS M and the DNG footage takes up a lot of space quick. 1 minute of 10 bit footage takes up a GB of space, and there is a bit of a learning curve editing the files. That said DNG has some advantages which is why people use modded EOS M cameras and the Sigma FP for example, and it's likely someone who is doing this kind of DIY project probably wouldn't mind the extra steps in workflow.

@@alockworkorange7296 I've been doing some research and yeah, there are a lot of options between relatively inexpensive 3d printers and services that will do the printing for you.

Yikes, lmao

OnlyFoss

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I already record goonin with frens under nods. The CinePi would be a fine addition

Nah.

Yeah but you can make any mount you want with this I guess :D

​​@@DarkTrapStudiothat would be great, i got a bunch of Pentax lenses lying around

You have zero FOV for whatever glass you mount to it seeing as the sensor is the size of a CCTV camera.

@@Foche_T._Schitt Yes heavy crop but you get the character of each lens, and if it open source that means we could get any sensor on it right ?

The character of the lens is muted when the crop is that heavy from a 1/2.3" sensor @@DarkTrapStudio

Facts, seeing people shill for corporate brands without shouting out smaller projects or brands constantly wears on you.

neither the Sony sensor or the SoC on the Raspi are open (+ the Raspi is still kinda' overpriced)...if you actually want to dick around making vids, a used, magic lantern capable camera is probably a better investment btw thanks for mentioning the Apertus Axiom, didn't know about it.

​@@AKAtheA Ye, was just talking about as cameras and how much difference there is in performance. Open vs closed hardware. Knew about Magic Lantern, but didn't think the compatible cameras could be pretty affordable used. Thanks for the suggestion.

I wish it was more ergonomic becuase it looks like it would be awkward to hold.

Just go buy a used Micro 4/3rds camera. You'll come out way ahead.

You don't buy it, you build it.

Not at all, cinema had small sensors for years, and now lens and low light capability are extremely good I don't understand your take.

@@DarkTrapStudio Op isn't wrong, the cinema camera community wants larger sensors and higher resolutions. A 1080 super 8 sensor wouldn't cut it for most professionals when even the 'budget' cinema cameras (blackmagic) come with MFT at 4k now a days. Some research makes it seem like the resolution limit is because of the Pi but it looks like the rpi 5 won't solve that because it still comes with USB 3 and PCIe 2.0 x1, but maybe in the future. Still an interesting project for DIY or the budget oriented though.

​@@nadtz The cinema community ? you mean the youtube community or are you in the cinema industry ?

I must admit I am just a hobby photographer, but I know that for good depth of field you need a large sensor and big/expensive lenses. Cinema is different of course, but you have to capture at least 24 fps and the larger the sensor, the more light you can capture.

​@@nadtz No what you say doesn't make sense, Arri 4K camera are extremely recent and most cinema camera where shooting film on 1080p Arri camera, and so in cinema DNG. If you don't do CG movies or Still print you don't need more than 4K, you won't even post in more 4K, maybe if you do wildlife but you don't need to crop with a small sensors cause lens have huge reach. USB 3 limits are more on the codecs side than resolution, DNG 4K is huge, H264 8K is riddiculous next to DNG 4K.

Aliexpress is not from the Alliance ;)

@@DarkTrapStudio yeah, but it's usually take more than a month for delivery and high chances of damages during transportation ;c

@@quite1enough :(

If it gets the job done opinions do not matter.

The absolute cope of repeating "it looks pretty good!". Literally the gnu/car meme.

Its 12 bit RAW DNG, Its a pi you can make any port you want.

@@DarkTrapStudio its not that convenient

@@Neuer_Alias_erstellenIts DIY camera ....

lol, so wrong.

@@djjoeray I encourage you to cite your sources sir.

1:06 "you can also put other sensors in this" actually, the guy who made this said himself on reddit that he's already trying to make it work with the same sensor the BMPCC 4K uses. That's what a lot of people with this more immediate view of things usually fail to get. First of all, you can absolutely get good quality images with the setup as is - way better than what you could possibly get by any other means within this price range. But something like this existing - especially with it being open source - allows people to iterate and improve upon the design it's been made in ways that proprietary hardware just doesn't allow. I mean, it hasn't been a month yet since the dude published his open source camera, give him a break lol It already is a valuable thing for film schools in empoverished areas, for example. Let's wait some time and see what developments may come - bigger and better sensors, etc

RPI 5 our now, may be better?

The footage on his channel are Arri like, why this is not "cinema quality" ?

why ?

super 16mm like the original pocket camera could be fine imo

It doesn't really look like it's made for photographers. Cine cameras are really only built to do video well

@@jacobnussbaum2309Video are still frames, some of cinema/documentary prints on billboard are video stills.