In the mean time I tried to fix the table, and that is in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rJBFk-5gMQY.html 'How (not) to pour epoxy'. If you want to know what happend with the table, check it out!
@Fake Reality - Why spray clear? In fact I coated the boards with one first pour (I should have put a bit of epoxy on the wood too). So I agree that you should treat everything you pour in first. But it can be done with epoxy as well - see the new video.
@Los Kr34ck - No idea. It's not something that is on my mind. People here told me I could sell it for thousands, even tens of thousands, but I don't know. I haven't got the channels for that and am not that interested in selling. It's OK where it is, in my small showroom in front of my workshop. 😊
Thanks for watching my video! *PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING* Answering most stated comments: *- Put a glass top over it* Yeah, good suggestion and I might consider, but the ugly spots won't go away with that.. Update: after getting this suggestion over 200 times (really!) I feel I have to elaborate now on this. I will NOT put a glass plate on top. I've got it worked out by now and want to try to fix the ugly and soft spots by carefully removing layers and pour epoxy in again. I know now three things I could have done better / different. Like most what I do the fixing too will be an experiment to learn from, so I will definitely make a video of it, titled 'how (not) to pour epoxy'. 😊 Wait for it. 😊 *- Just pour one new layer epoxy over the whole table* Could do that, but again, the ugly spots won't go away with that, and second I don't like the look of wood underneath epoxy that much... Covering wood in epoxy for me is something like making plastic out of something natural.. *- Cut out the center, put in a new bottom and start new* I will certainly not do that. I've just so many other things I want to make.. *- You should have poured thinner layers* The specs of the epoxy said I could pour 5 cm at once. I did maybe 1,5 cm. Most is fine. I screwed up the mixing. *- You should have mixed the epoxy like this ... method, or like this ...* Hey, I know I SCREWED UP the mixing. Thanks for reminding me. 😉😉 I will take your advice and do better next time. I promise. *- What if one LED dies? How will you fix that? You should add solar to charge the batteries* You haven't watched the whole video, now have you? I know everybody skips parts of videos, but skipping the essential parts makes you ask stupid questions... 😁😁 *- You're better in converting buses* Ok, I confess, I made that comment up. 😆😆
great idea and you really did a great job. im not sure if other people mentioned these two help-full hints. **to eliminate having uncured spots in the epoxy** - combine the two parts of epoxy required in a clean container and mix for half of the time indicated in the instructions. then transfer the epoxy to a different new clean container and continue to mix for the exact remaining time required. pour as soon as the required mixing time is completed. when mixing- stir the product as fast as you can BY HAND without adding allot of air or bubbles into the mixture. make sure to scrape the sides of the container during the mixing and when your transferring from the first to second container. when pouring out of the second container onto your project DO NOT scrape the sides. **to eliminate bubbles in the finished product** - use a heat gun and pass back and forth in a even sweeping motion over the epoxy as soon as you finish pouring out the epoxy. when the epoxy is warmed you will see the bubbles move to the surface and with each pass of the heat source the bubbles should "pop" and disappear.
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl It may be that at the edge of the container is still unmixed resin. If you dump it in a new container and do not scratch it, you avoid that this resin is being poured with it
I made my kitchen island in a wood top and did epoxy. The heat was the trick. I used a propane torch. I did several layers. It looks like a sheat of glass. I hope he does it again. I know that epoxy is not cheap though.
@@goednieuwskrantje-nl In the original container, a lot of unmixed epoxy liquid can stick to the sides and bottom, especially in the corners. When you put it into a new container, the unmixed liquid sticking to the sides of the original container will tend to pour out last, and in doing so will be poured directly into the middle of the new container. This trick really works.
You hypnotised me with all this, I don’t know why but from the beginning I kept watching all the work, it’s fascinating the way you took time doing amazing things from a silly idea. I loved it so much. Thx
I had the same exact thought. A lot of RU-vidrs only want to share their perfect attempts. You tend to learn the most from mistakes especially when someone else makes them first. LOL Great video. Being an Electrical Engineering I am particularly biased.
Not a total fail.. It was a learning curve for you as well as us watching.. And that idea of using the LEDs with the fibre optics has given me some ideas in my projects.. So.. Not a fail at all...
Fantastic idea! I'm a retired Printed Circuit Board Designer. You gave me an idea, do this but with all the PCBs I've designed since the 1980s. A coffee table to be proud of in more ways than one.
You know, I've got a bunch of old motherboards lying around from previous computer builds. This might be a really cool project for a new computer desk. Using the LED shells with fiber optic cable was a neat idea too.
What you've learnt from this: The epoxy was a failure. What we've learnt from this: Screw with your failure!! That LED with fiber optic wire is a brilliant idea, and your table is awesome!!
Looks like shit. My local lumberyard has an epoxied table with river stones, moss, and a slab of zebra wood with a live edge. Your table is something a sixth grader would do.
@@yousircantknow8987 "my local lumber yard...."😂😂😅That was one of the dumbest, out of left field, "I can't do better so I will hide my jealousy by posting that I saw a better one somewhere else that I had nothing to do with except seeing it" post I have ever seen!😂😂😅. FAF. Had me rolling for a while. Thanks. I really needed that.
i agree the fiber optic is really nice ! but i'm asking myself, in the video you show us you drilled a red led, but when you light it up later they all show up green and yellow ? i'm really curious about this
@@nathu100 The red one was the first as a test. 'For real' I used only green & yellow because I thought those colors matched better with the circuit boards.
I'm very impressed. You're a stand up guy. It's hard to say how many but I imagine more so than not. The average RU-vidr would have skipped over the part about it not coming out right. Not lied about it, just not told us all about what happened. I've been guilty of it myself. If for nather reason that in itself deserves me subscribing. Sir you have a new subscriber.
So sad to hear of the failure. The concept was totally awesome especially with the addition of fiber optics. I was thoroughly amazed at the finished product and the look of it looking like an aerial view of a city. Kudos my friend by going boldly into making a concept piece reality. Without failure how can we marvel at vast achievements made. Keep on keep'n on. 👍
Don't know why this video was suggested on my page but when I saw this I really liked the part that it says failure and still so many views, it's courageous and very honest to show a failed attempt but the most important message I got is even with failure this is such a beautiful table and this means failure is just the message to a bigger success! Thanks for sharing 👍🙂
When a DIY'r tech nerd watches too much home improvement tv :) Great video! Personally I think it looks awesome. I would get a piece of glass made for the table top, put some 35% window tint on it, and just set it on top of everything. Thus, the tint will hide the imperfections of the epoxy, yet let the circuit boards and wood be visibly appealing. Definitely not a loss or a fail, just an unexpected step in the process towards the finished table!
it was exciting,the best part was your honesty and explaining every part in details.you aren't hiding any side effects you faced while doing this entire project.102k likes worth it.i wish it rese to millions!!!.that table also looks super cool haha.
Thank you. It gets even better in the follow-up video. You might want to see that too? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rJBFk-5gMQY.html
Make a router sled and carve as mush epoxy out as you can without damaging the old mobos etc. Then refill. I would add a 3-5mm raised edge around the table and fill the epoxy so it covers the wood, covering the the table. Nice Work
Funny. I didn't see it as so exciting... but then again... I was busy at the time... 😊 But I can give away a little secret.... (As you won't tell anyone... 😆) I'm busy fixing the table (look here ru-vid.com/show-UCNdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5wcommunity ) and at some point I asked myself if it was possible to fix rather big enclosed air bubbles, by drilling two tiny holes at the ends, and with a syringe inject epoxy from one. Seeing that ugly bubble slowly disappear... now THAT was satisfying..! Busy with the video. Wait for it.
@@Onrust1 circular saw it out drop it out the bottom...put new thin layer of wood in the cutout then redo...maybe aplastic black between wood and new resin pour to be left in...right down the edge of wood meets resin circular saw
@@Onrust1 better yet drop it and build the circuit board outside of the table then put in after...even install it you can change it out from time to time just you same braces under neath just like table extension braces...
I'm assuming you read above that I've already fixed the table? Building the circuit board part outside of the table would make the installing of the glass fibers very difficult...
I think you are usually supposed to pour it into different containers and them pour it again. It looked like you mixed and poured from the same container. I have had that same problem when I try to conserve the containers. Make sure you follow the instructions to a T and contact technical support for application techniques. In my experience the Envirotec technical support was Extremely helpful and knowledgeable. I wouldn’t be bummed if I was you, that table is freakin’ amazing, even if its not “perfect” good job!
I recommend a piece of glass that can be beveled around the edge at a 45 degree angle 1/2-1 inch wide. By the way, you made one HELL of a GREAT EFFORT- BRAVO my friend!Francis
As you can see here ru-vid.com/show-UCNdDV4vHKjuWOYlEW4HIk5wcommunity I've begun fixing the table. I routed out the bad spots and am pouring in new epoxy. The first results look promising. Wait for the video. 😊
Maybe next time a small layer of epoxy to keep the boards in place then inlay a piece of glass as a cover? Just a thought. I really liked the concept of the table! Now I am wishing I didn't recycle all my old motherboards and telecom boards haha. Great work my friend!
Router out a layer thick enough for a sheet of glass on just the center piece; its hard to tell from the angles I saw it at but there should be some leeway between the surface of the table and the tallest component on one of the PCBs. Won't get rid of any ugly spots under that but should make it a functioning and non-sticky table.
If you incorporate passive heat sink as a table center decoration, you could possibly do this. Your thermals would be unfathomably awful, and you'd probably have to downclock everything to all hell, but it could work. Your power supply would have to be mounted under the table, though.
The other day I where out to buy a cooking top, the seller ensured me it had wifi. And now your showing me your table with PCI express, expandable ram, several cpu's and it's all fanless. Sometimes I just wan't to go back to the stone age, but my time machine broke.
Brilliant idea and I appreciate you sharing the challenges and “failure”. It’s nice to see a creator willing to show that not all projects turn out perfectly. You’ve earned a new sub. Thanks. I look forward to binging past projects and watching new ones. Happy New Year!
It looked like a city of silicon from above like an advanced civilisation would look like, so happy to see such patience and hard work you put in and saw it fail
An interesting build and entertaining to watch. I have a suggestion about the fiber optic lights. You could easily put a battery powered small motor under the tabletop, to which you attach a small disc with various sized circles, arcs, and other shapes cut into it, and shine a light source through the disc at the fiber optic cable ends. This would introduce a semi-random element or patterned 'movement' of the lights on the surface. You might do another table, this time assuring yourself of table being level. Add more lights than the current model, do the electric motor and pierced wheel arrangement, but add more discs with gearing to make each disc run at different speeds, adding more 'randomness' to the light patterns. Just a few thoughts, speaking, Frank-ly
This is the best solution! If he doesn't want to put the glass in contact with the epoxy, he just has to put something to separate both things leaving a little space in between. That table looks just amazing!
Maybe you can run your circular saw through, just to the inside of the epoxy, then pry it out. I didn't see any metal pieces right at the edges that would give the saw blade any trouble. Since you lined the bottom with aluminum tape, you might be able to pull/pry the whole thing out after releasing the sides. Bit of a shame. I am sure that was a rather pricey resin pour. It was a great idea, and overall looked wonderful. It really appealed to my computer geek side. I really liked your idea for lighting the LEDs with fiber. I may have to borrow that solution one of these days for one of my projects.
Sucess. I may give a sugestion for the next, about leds. You could just leave leds, connect to nothing, and with radio frequencies you could light them up at distance, with no batteries on leds, cables whatever. But its funny and nice to take a cell phone and make them blink. Nice table there.
The areas where you have waves in the epoxy, if it's not a soft spot, is caused by overheating of the epoxy. Overheating generally occurs when you pour too much epoxy (to thick a layer). The soft spots can either be the epoxy was not mixed well enough (as you suggested) or the room where you poured the epoxy and cured it was too cold. If the epoxy or the room you're curing it in is too cold, the epoxy does not go through the thermogenic reaction it needs to harden and cure. And ignore all of the non-creative fools who replied with "just put glass over it" , or made snide remarks. They obviously do not have a creative bone in their body!! You did a great job for your first table pour.
Thank you. Yes, I learned a lot from this, as you can see here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rJBFk-5gMQY.html Regards from the Netherlands!
try moving the table out into the sunlight - warm days - for a week. Needless to say, good weather will be needed as far as the forecast for your area. Sometimes thick epoxy resin that did not get well mixed will 'kick' due to the UV. You may try after the surface is hard a wash with acetone. Test at a small spot in a corner first.
Heat may help set the epoxy. I have done a lot of epoxy casting at work. WARNING: The heating process does cause the release of fumes it is best done in a well ventilated area. The fumes could cause respiratory problems. with prolonged exposure. I frequently used heat to speed the curing process if prototype were needed in a rush. I would also use heat if I was off a bit with the catalyst (hardener) and things did not want to set in the after 2 to 5 days. The heat will make the epoxy a little soft. Cook between 30 C and 50 C, if it is too hot the epoxy will turn yellow. The heating may take a couple of days. The lower the heat the longer it will take to harden. You can repeat the heat process if required. - The second heat should be at a lower temp and a longer duration. When time was not a factor, I found that the lower heat 25 to 30C and longer duration, this worked best for me. If the heat is above 75C the epoxy tends to turn a little milky yellow to brown and cause distortions in the glass like finish. Do NOT use a heat gun to heat a localized area it may cause cracking. Build a tent and heat the whole panel evenly as possible. You could use the sun but make sure to use a heavy black plastic cover to shield the epoxy from the sun light. Watch the temperature closely, on a sunny day it can easily reach 73 C in a sealed tent think about your car in the sun and the heat inside it in summer. This could take several days bring the table in at night and cover with blankets to allow slower cooling. - Insulating the bottom of the table would help minimize the heat loss and give a more even temperature distribution through the panel thickness. When warm the epoxy will be softer so take your time, when cool and cured it will turn hard. let the epoxy cool to room temp 18-24 C with out additional cooling applied.( do not place in a cold place this may crack the panel) The longer it takes to cool the less stress you place on the cast panel. ( you have a big panel) I would suggest to keep the epoxy out of direct sun light. That will help the epoxy keep it's clarity. Non UV setting epoxy's will turn yellow. That will happen to most clear epoxies through time and sun exposure. UV light will cure UV setting epoxy's do turn yellow very quickly I created an epoxy that could have 3.5 " nail driven through a 3/4" thick piece with out breaking or cracking it. Fun Stuff!!
I literally laughed out loud towards the end of the video where he reveals that the table was a fail and he says "what now?" at 14:15 because it cut to an advertisement for a depression medication...... 🤣😂🤣😂
I prefer a non-work-related decoration for the table. I live all the time near this stuff so all I want is something different... although this table shows great!
At first I thought "what the hell, that's crazy" but when I saw the end result, man what a great job, very inventive idea! Nice one.😉 Such a shame the epoxy when bad☹️
Being a hobby or home project, a few imperfections don't make it a fail in total. Overall, I enjoyed the vid and I for one see the table as a success. Great thing! :)
Im sorry it didnt work as expected for you, but it taught me how i wouldnt do mine if ever i tackled such a project. Theres a number of good suggestions here to help salvage the outcome. I think instead of resin i would simply use a ~ 6 mm/ 0.25" polycarbonate overlay. #1. The cost would be a fraction of resin material. #2. Polycarbonate will not scratch very easily. #3. The sheet and/or the display contents can be changed at will either from damage or when another display idea comes to you. I wonder what the optical effect would be if you used a laser pointer for the light source. I know it would be one led at a time of course, but the effect at each led lens might be fun to see. I hope further curing fixes the stickiness, but if it doesnt get some flooring to cover the entire thing over if it comes to that. Either that or a glass or polycarbonate full table cover.
imagine a table like this filled with a 3d city model that had little cars in it with fiberoptic headlights along with lights on some of the streets and city building windows.
anytime someone says "nothing fancy" I first imagine the fancy one, and then wonder why people would think I would think it it needed to be fancy in the first place.
@Shadow Banned Why would you even use epoxy with the glass panel? Just mount glass on the top of the boards and there you go it's done. Not as cool as the version with epoxy but still pretty cool.
@@partiid you will gets hurtbutt if u do that. Because u need to add some glue to make that circuit doesnt move at all. And u need to remove the glass to clean it when some of your soda spilled in that table
@@hiragasakoto7193 The circuit boards can still be stuck in place with a thin layer of epoxy, or some other glue, below them. It doesn't have to be visible.
Screw the table, hang it on the wall as an art object, it will still be beautiful! You are a very clever, artistic, industrious man, what a totally cool video!!!
i had the same idea, then i read your comment. Glass is waay less expensive than epoxy, you can even plop it down onto some screws or washers to hold it down over the epoxy
Too bad that it was not a success. Great work, better luck next time. At least we all learned something from your mistakes so it wasn't all a failure. :)
I like the accomplishment, now put in art gallery and make a pretty penny. As still can't believe living in Australia that about 8 old PC circut boards were put together sold for 50k at an auction (I laughed way to loud, then continued to remind people i could make that from scrap at my work IT GUY and sure i would put the 50k to better use) I will never understand ART. KEEP IT UP , ITS ALL ABOUT HAVING FUN