For simulation purposes, you and Citation Max taught me almost everything I needed to know about the Citation. Thanks for that! The FMS’s quirks and nuances are quite challenging, and there’s not much out there on it. It took me probably 6 hours of trial and error and reading the manual to figure it out, then another two hair-pulling hours to master the format for entering manual waypoint coordinates. The reverse thruster took some trial and error, at least on X-Plane. I finally figured out FLC, but the TOGA button and “takeoff mode” is still rather a mystery. The bank limiter was a mystery for a bit, as was the pressurization and APU. Definitely a lot of work compared to a Skyhawk, but a very satisfying challenge. Really appreciate what some of you great RU-vidrs do in support of the aviation domain and those who love it, including sim pilots.
Wow! Thank you! To be put in the same sentence as Citation Max is humbling, to say the least. I only have 3% of the subscribers that he has. 🤦🏼♂️😂 Glad to hear that you are figuring out the X! The TOGA button is actually pretty simple. It brings the Flight Director bars up to I believe 13.5° which is optimal for takeoff or go around pitch. Pushing that button will also sequence to the missed approach in the FMS if you are shooting an approach and have to go missed. Thank you so much for the comment. I greatly appreciate it! I grew up on Microsoft Flight Simulator long before flying in the real world, so I am thrilled that I have the opportunity to give back a little bit to the Flight Sim community!
@@johnkluenker I think I finally discovered that about the FD bar on TO, just haven’t used it since then (memory fades). So it sounds like the GA part of that is like the Suspend button on Garmin when going missed. I’ll have to try that. I never really practiced a Go Around on the X.
Wow, briefing right turn four times and programming it in, and then having them change it to left at the last second is insane. No wonder there’s so many oopsies out there. Nicely done.
Thanks for the great video. I've recently gotten back into flight-sims and loving the Citation-X in X-Plane 12; this is so helpful for figuring out the practical use of the simulated systems and learning the actual procedures. Keep 'em comin'!
Thank you, Lars! I really appreciate the comment. As the FlightFX Citation X release gets closer, I will be putting out some more videos and certainly once it is released I will make some videos where I am working directly with the virtual aircraft. Should be good! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for checking out the video and subscribing! This is going to be a really incredible add-on for Flight Sim. Stay tuned for some more follow-up videos. I’m a big fan of the Citation X. I hope you enjoy it! AirForceProud95 made a great video documenting the day we hosted the FlightFX team. I’ll share the link. It’s a great video. Where in France do you live? I love France. It’s so beautiful! 🇫🇷 ❤️ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ErnkB-7MR_Q.htmlsi=AX7E68lB1RHdcmxs
Awesome channel, and small world at the KSCK. I've seen you all taxing out/taking off every once in a while from around the corner at Vintage Aviation! Great looking plane and appreciate you giving an insight from the flight deck!
Hi John, thanks so much for sharing. Had a quick question as I’m new to the X: Why was Lemon not showing on your MFD at 18:55? I think you mentioned you had the RNAV loaded, and I see on the chart that Lemon is a fix on that approach. Thank you and keep the great content coming!
Good catch! I forget exactly what happened, but we had made a change later in the flight and deleted the RNAV approach for some reason. That part didn’t make the final cut when I edited the video, but that’s why it wasn’t there when I loaded the ILS.
Great Video John, gotta love the Honeywell Suite, although it does show its age ;) Thanks for going into detail. I was wondering, if you dont mind me asking, you were talking about piloting the same aircraft for more than a decade. Are you only flying this aircraft or are you doing other (freelance) gigs on the side?
Thanks! I have flown this specific Citation X for (going on) 18 years for this company. I do occasionally dabble in other contract side gigs when we aren’t busy with this airplane. It’s nice to get different perspectives on the Citation X fleet and how other operators fly them.
Thank you so much. Only one or two 10's on the Isle Of Man registration, so a rare sight. Amazing airplane, that wing, and the airplane in profile is amazing.
I’ll be looking forward to the videos of you comparing the real to simulation. I didn’t know you could re-enable vnav after atc descend request. (Just have to wait until level with the descent bug ) That was helpful, and good to know. I’m going to replicate that in the simulator next time.
Thanks for checking out the video! Glad I could help. I’m looking forward to making some more follow-up videos once I get my hands on the virtual airplane. Stay tuned!
Hi, I really like your videos. I’m at FS taking a Citation X initial and your videos have really helped. Where can I find the checklist like the one you ha e on the video (Pre start to after start). Thanks!! And looking forward to more of your videos!
Awesome!! Glad to hear you’re learning the X. It’s a fantastic airplane! I have some pictures of the checklist that I can send you. Do you mind sharing your email address? Enjoy your training and thanks so much for the comment!
Hi John, this was a very helpful video for me! Thank you. In X-Plane 12, I am currently learning this plane. I have a quick two questions: 1) regarding the APU, should I shut it down immediately after both engines are started successfully? Or should I leave the APU running while I taxi? I have seen many different techniques online regarding APU usage and was curious on the proper procedure. 2) I know you can use the speedbrake lever near the thrust levers to slow the plane down in the air, but does this activate the ground spoilers upon landing or is there a separate mechanism for activating the ground spoilers? I know that there is reverse thrust as well, but I was curious on the proper procedure to activate the ground spoilers. Thank you again!
So glad that the video was helpful. Thank you for the comment! Regarding the APU, we have used both techniques. We used to shut it down right after starting the main engines. Most other operators keep it running until after takeoff and shut it down while climbing through 10,000 feet. It depends on the serial number of the aircraft and which electrical system it has. The simulated 10 most likely will have the split electrical system. With that system, it makes sense to keep the APU running until after takeoff. It is helpful to provide back up power in the event of the loss of an engine or engine driven generator. Believe it or not, there is no speed limit for the use of the speed brakes. You can deploy the speed brakes even at Mach .92 if you need to. There are no specific ground spoilers. also, there is no automatic function of the speed brakes. Manual application only. That being said, there is no function to arm any sort of automatic deployment of the speed brakes. The standard technique for landing the X that works really well. Is that once the main wheels touch just deploy the speed brakes. The technique is a little counterintuitive. Right before you touch down, I bring the thrust levers to idle and bring my hand over to the speed brake lever. again, the moment the main wheels touch you pull the speed, brake lever and simultaneously push forward on the yoke, a bit to lower the angle of attack and fly the nose wheel to the ground. On the legacy X there is a limitation to not deploy the thrust reversers until the nose wheel is planted on the ground. With the engines mounted so high, the thrust reverses have the tendency to pull the nose up where you then lose your nose wheel steering capability. So you fly the nose wheel to the ground and apply full forward pressure with the yoke while deploying the thrust reversers. Interesting, right!?
@@johnkluenker Thank you very much for the great and detailed reply! It is indeed very interesting the mechanics of the plane plus the physics of flying and how it all comes together. All the best to you.
@@johnkluenkeryeh, I did a couple wheelies there for a while during the learning phase, but eventually learned the sequence you mention, as well as pushing back on the ramp using a single reverse thruster, even though some companies eschew that practice. The documentation in X Plane Mobile isn’t very good on reverse thrusters, and it has a habit of slamming to full throttle during deployment. It’s been a pain to remember pushing forward on the yoke to prevent wheelies, and it’s hard to see the speed on mobile to know when to disengage around 70. But I’ve landed it at Catalina Island a few times! 😉
Awesome! During this latest recurrent, we went the entire time without cracking a paper checklist. We downloaded a digital copy of the emergency abnormal checklists and saved it into the files on ForeFlight. It was pretty great.
Was it a IAF for the ILS and they wanted you to fly around it? Was trying to follow along. I’m a new jet guy at FSI working on my X type rating. Your videos have been tremendously helpful. Also, any chance you could share your ForeFlight checklist 😊
Great content, but the backing music was way too loud, when you were speaking in the first few minutes. Music like that is best really, really quiet - just tickling the user, far in the background. (Or even better - no music at all, during pieces to camera).
Thank you. Getting the audio levels right between music and dialogue is the most difficult part of making these videos. I put a lot of time into that and it still doesn’t turn out perfectly. This is about as good as I could get it for this one and I’m happy with it. I have only listened to it on my laptop and phone however, so when you watch it on a TV or another device, it can throw off the balance depending upon the audio settings of the specific device.
