Cities Skylines 2 PDX Mods - What Happened?

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This is a SUPER unfiltered opinion on Day 1 of PDX Mods for Cities Skylines 2 as well as the Beach Properties DLC based on my usage of these assets and mods the past few days, in particular, the errors, the good and bad of both PDX Mods and Beach Properties.
As a result, much of this was filmed of me talking to my camera on my phone right after finishing streaming so I could give my immediate feedback, so please excuse the shaky camera in some parts.
This is my honest opinion after streaming with mods for 2-3 hours on release day and whether or not its enough to bring people back to the game.
Please no harsh negativity in the comments but feel free to disagree or critique the game, etc. An honest discussion of the game in its current state is encouraged. :)
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@TaTvsU 5 месяцев назад

Steam Charts indicates, that 8k people played Cities Skylines 2 today. How can this crash the servers? It wasn't a major spike. Did they expect like 100 people?

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeah that was really weird....CS1 has 8k players every day and doesn't have these issues

@fiftyfive1s410 5 месяцев назад

There are a ton more users on game pass

@A.Martin 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDiana I think it was just like that much of that 8k hit the servers all at once for mods, where most days you will only get a fraction of them doing so, the rest don't get new mods or update.

@rlas 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDianaIt unfortunately isn't weird. They planned too small. LOTM has basically confirmed that with the post in the official server "where could all this server load only come from, oh no! We are working on fixes!" Well you can't fix an error that is a hardware shortage without adding hardware. PDXmods is really not ready. The other games that support PDXmods have a maximum sub count of 40-60 thousand. 40 thousand people tried to subscribe Move It Alpha for example tho on launch day. The fact that PDXmods cant update while the game is closed is another issue cause it adds all the load at the same time the moment you launch the game. Idk how one can calculate user numbers this incorrectly but they did. its a shame, really

@vicforas 5 месяцев назад

I personally hate the fact that this game will only get better with the intervention of people willing to do it for free. While the corporation that should fix this after all this disrespect only appears to sell DLC with pretty "meh" content (to avoid saying horrible). Guess I'm going to stay at cities 1 yet for a long time.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yep, absolutely. I feel that. The modders are doing gods work....or more appropriately they're doing the work the devs should be doing

@boki1693 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDiana LOL, I said that about the first game and they only doubled down on it this time. It is so clear they are depending on the modders to make mods for the beach assets. How are they even calling this a Beach type DLC? Why are there no commercial or larger zone beach assets. Ever see Waikiki beach? Are there not huge skyscraper hotels on the beach? I live on Long island and we have a BOARDWALK and plenty of little bars and restaurants on the beach and near it. On the North Shore, is much more a New England vibe but they still have commercial stuff. Where's all that?

@gunnarragnarsson9563 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDiana I wish the modders actually didn't. Maybe then CO/PDX would get the proverbial kick in ass to actually improve things with meaningfull content, updates and fixes.

@Synan. 5 месяцев назад

I understand that the HQ is far away from any beach, but that is not an excuse.

@terrellrogers7645 5 месяцев назад

Something I’ve always thought since CS1, if the mod can be created it means it can also be put in as vanilla in the game by the devs, the only thing that really should be considered as a true mod is actual assets like buildings, vehicles, props etc, everything else should’ve been automatically built in

@knobjockey6882 5 месяцев назад

To be fair modders also saved C:S. The original wasn’t crash hot for years, really until just before the pandemic, and that’s when the game was stable enough and supported enough with all the cool mods that a majority of players could use it. Also, I think it’s a really bad look to be charging that much for what is effectively 10 houses per style. At least the signature buildings look great.

@lilylute1248 5 месяцев назад

Yeee I think people forget how minimal the first game was and how many issues there were. Counterpoint, the company is much more experienced now and has more money to do things with and I feel like they should have learned. (really the issue is probably investor related and pressures to release from publishers)

@knobjockey6882 5 месяцев назад

@@lilylute1248 absolutely! I don’t even think that’s a counterpoint, because both are true. CO has much more money and experience. Maybe they bit off far more than they could chew?

@lilylute1248 5 месяцев назад

@@knobjockey6882Seems to be the case ;_;

@stefant2655 5 месяцев назад

Diana, thank you for your unfiltered feedback on this game. I also fell in love with cities 1 and the mods so to see how “bare” cities 2is was a let down. Hopefully this is a grimmer of hope

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

I hope it wasn't too unfiltered hahahah I wanted to capture something a little more.... Informal this time

@catwitz 5 месяцев назад

Hopefully, once custom assets come out, we can make our own zoning types, similar to how you could add tags to RICO but easier so it appears like the beach properties.

@SteelWalrus 5 месяцев назад

If only there were some sort of pre-existing framework for the uploading and sharing of mods.

@RamblinRick_ 5 месяцев назад

Nice to see MoveIt! (an essential mod) and Skyve are already there. I anticipate that PDX will be very, VERY, slow to provide asset mods. Why? So they can sell you those over-priced, under-whelming DLC assets, like the Beachfront DLC Concerning performance updates, City Planner Plays did a comparison on his YT channel comparing various gaming rigs (low, medium, high-end), and there was improvement when graphics settings were set to Low. sidebar: Your comment "Modders will strip away everything Cities 2 to become Cities 1, but with better road tools and a better camera". Preach it, sister!

@An_Economist_Plays 5 месяцев назад

Looking at the SteamDB charts, there's a move up in CS2 players first in the US time zones, then modest moves for the rest of the world. But the number of CS2 players is still lagging CS1 player counts, and the "new content" spike did not break that line. Within a week, the numbers will be back to where they were before the mods/beach content dropped.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeahhh I think so. Tbh the new content and mods - when they actually work - DOES make me wanna play the game for a bit, but I'll probably get bored again in like a week myself and go back to CS1 or Truck Sim

@NoMercy8008 5 месяцев назад

Appreciate your thoughts and opinions as always, thank you! 💛 Especially important to get a grip for how well it actually works (the actual user experience) and how stable the PDX Mods servers are going to be and so on, that's in my opinion gonna be a hugely important point especially in the long term. As you mention, there is reason to be worried about how the whole user experience and "performance" of the PDX Mods UI will work out once there's tons of mods and assets on there. Gotta wait and see for that ^.^ Not sure what to think (especially since I'm not playing the game myself still, to be very honest). initial community reactions sound kinda hopeful, but seeing the issues you've been facing also kinda worries me a little. It's awesome that you started to stream on Twitch, just went over there and followed you! Looking forward to catching you streaming hopefully soon 💛 Again thank you so much 🙌 ALL the best 💛

@hopelessdecoy 5 месяцев назад

I 100% want CS2 to have a No Man's Sky ark where it becomes an actual great game. I try not to blame the devs since as a dev myself I have had to ship things that are not done because the business side wants to start "realizing their investments". DLC I am 50/50 on, I hope they do some big free patch and content updates to gain some faith back then sell me more things. It's the better path but the suits don't care about that stuff, short term gains and recurring revenue at the lowest time and cost possible is all they want.

@ToadyEN 5 месяцев назад

This account is a lifesaver in terms of giving real talk on what the state of the game is like! thank you Diana!

@vexcarius7100 5 месяцев назад

That was I was thinking. So we got beach front properties, but where are the shops? Where are the parks, my boat or yacht docks?

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Seriously 😑

@AlexPrimus 5 месяцев назад

Didn't know you were streaming on twitch....I have twitch on all day in the background while I trade. Just added you. Hope you stream regularly.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Oh yeah I just started a few days ago 🥰 thx for following hope to see you around 😊

@T5d1Va 5 месяцев назад

Thunderstore is broken (for me?), and I couldn't get any PDX mods to install at all today. Fun fact, the temp of my GPU on PDX mods was ramped up to 70C with the fans running on "OH MY GOD" speed....but while playing the game....they're on 60C. I can't explain how the mods section that doesn't even work is more graphically intense than an actual city during gameplay. Riddle me this.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yep, I know, I have no clue, my game did the same thing....sadly Thunderstore might be gone for good

@mrtbts 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDianathey probably patched the method bepinex use to inject mods they probably want full control over the modding community or something

@makdims 5 месяцев назад

@@mrtbtsWdym? I can still use Thunderstore mods along with pdx mods. But Extended Road Upgrade is broken on Thunderstore.

@NoMercy8008 5 месяцев назад

Do you have your framerate capped? It might be that it's rendering a really high uncapped FPS in the mod menu for some reason, might be worth keeping an eye on that and capping the FPS the game is allowed to render if you haven't already ^.^ I don't know if there is an option for this ingame, but usually the control software for a GPU is also capable of doing it for specific applications.

@philbear2185 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vid. For me, the number of 'agents' moving around is a bit weird, 50 workers show up at the 1000 employees plant, and lots of other funny stuff in the simulation. I'll try the game again in a few years, but will watch content if you have ideas :)

@A.Martin 5 месяцев назад

most agents don't actually drive/walk etc., they teleport to and from work. Has to be done because of time compression, to have all agents be simulated, then days will need to be much longer.

@James-xx7yt 5 месяцев назад

@@A.Martin Personally hoping for a real time mod 2.0 at some point.

@gatowololo5629 4 месяца назад

I'm excited for that palm tree 20-pack mod from the community 😩🔥

@VaingloriousGaming 5 месяцев назад

I ended today on the opposite end of things. Today's update, the asset pack, and PDX mods (the beta tool, not the actual mods themselves) make me want to play the game even less. I have lost all hope that CO/PDX will ever be able to repeat the hit of the original CS.

@delta9k 5 месяцев назад

I really appreciate your candor in describing your experiences. Many others appear to come across as Paradox pilled ColossalOrderCucked mouth pieces and its difficult to get an actual read. I still have not checked into CS2 to look at the updates and probably won't until the weekend. I am happy to hear that there seems to be at least some positives and hope it continues as a trend.

@Dlnqntt 5 месяцев назад

The mods got bear hugged to death the other day, but today they are working significantly better.

@UnReal31337 5 месяцев назад

Paradox Mods are bused for me too and my thunderstore mods are busted now too

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeah I actually feel like they remind me of New Mexico a lot too or Latin America. Easily the best part of that really small DLC...

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

yup thunderstore is done for sadly....and PDX mods have been hit or miss for me, they worked long enough for me to stream for 2 hours and havent worked since

@MaskedDeath_ 5 месяцев назад

I really hate this new trend of releasing sequels for games that really don't need them. I mean games like this, Overwatch 2, The Sims 4, Payday 3, the upcoming Prison Architect 2, probably more I can't remember right now. You have this game that's been worked on for years, has massive amounts of content (including free) added to it that players love. Making a new game is such a weird choice, it takes way more time and effort than an update with a DLC, and you have huge expectations that you will never live up to, simply because the previous game had as much time put into development, then again that much after release. Of course, this also involves the game's and studio's reputation taking a massive hit. There's just so much that can go wrong here. And then the release is inevitably half-baked at best, and DLCs are sold before the game is even good to add insult to injury. Literally just keep working on the game people love and keep releasing DLCs. Less effort, less risk, same amount of money (if not more, as you don't have to pay for development costs of the new game). Instead we get "new" games and then band-aid fixes that half-work and piss the playerbase off even more.

@rlas 5 месяцев назад

I had early access a few days before launch and can say the servers already had issues then. Its no surprise that they can't handle a continuous player base. Unfortunate 😢 Their servers require a massive improvement

@djserious9341 5 месяцев назад

I’m still waiting to buy CS2. I’m hoping it will get a lot better overtime. It’s helpful to hear other people’s opinions and reactions to the game.

@SprattyD 5 месяцев назад

I was out all day here (I'm in Australia) so I missed all the server errors so by the time I got onto it everything seems to have resolved and the modding loaded up fine. All I have to say with the small hand full of mods I do have it is nice to have the ability again to have some simple thing that I wish were still base game like prop line tool! Move it! I also have got the radio station so I have sim city music back again! which is awesome! While I am still testing out the game on my existing save I do have the historical start mod which means I can have farms and trains from a start which is something that makes sense to me instead of having to unlock it! you also are not bound by a depot either. Performance seems to have improved but also I noticed with my save the land value bug really dropped right off!!! there are a couple of bits here and there but it was at a point where it rendered my city stuffed so it is nice their patching seems to be working. Now for the DLC.. yeah it is just dumb I bought the ultimate edition so it just appears to me so I don't mind it but there is no way I would buy it outside of a really cheap discount on a steam sale and even then it is just a single item to select in residential and some unique plopables based on region.. and the 4 PALM TREEEEEEEESSSSS!!!! The modding might get me back to playing, all I have to say they NEED to hurry up with asset modding.

@tmg7476 5 месяцев назад

As a Floridian, I would prefer the EU beach assets more than the blah NA ones -- look closer to what I see around me. But I'm not going back to CS2 until my favorite CS asset creators convert their CS assets to CS2 or add new ones. I just think that CS2 is so incomplete that modders and possibly asset creators are going to have to constantly revise their mods and assets to keep them working.

@meatsandwich3217 5 месяцев назад

Is there a mod so I can make CS2 more like CS1? /s

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

I hope so....

@sbkbg 5 месяцев назад

Mods still clutter things up. If you need mods to make the game playable it still isn't a good game! The most popular Mods should have been built in features.

@gunnarragnarsson9563 5 месяцев назад

The 'beach' DLC and the value it brings is quite a new (b)low. CO and PDX are clearly not a road to redemption but doubling down on more bad decisions. This is the first time I am actually thinking that this game is done for long term because they clearly don't read the room or care much. And the way they keep acting is actually making me don't want to play CS1 either for some reason. But they are clearly aware of the general anger and disappointment. They stopped doing live stream and do a pre-recorded video today where there probably showcase the 'not a beach' assets and the paywalled trees.

@rlas 5 месяцев назад

I am outraged that the DLC paywalls 4 trees, the artwork uses a beach with waves breaking on the sand as well and the buildings have absolutely nothing to do with water fronts. The signature buildings are more useful to build villa ranges like Beverly hills or the higher ups of Monaco and such. These mansions have no ocean character and neither do the zone able houses. I also think the fact of separating each asset style into zones will be annoying for casual players. CS1 allowed you to mix styles so you dont need to paint per hand. Now you have to paint lot per lot by hand, if you want to have a mix. Its very tedious to do at some point. The low amount of assets in vanilla and the DLC make it also impossible to not use them together to get at least some variety going. I really hope that they will revise the DLCs and add more content to them for free or at least for people that already purchased them in the past. Otherwise I see a grim future for the game. And I can not understand why console users are demanding a console release! The game is not even functional the way it should be! Has no place on a console in its current state at all!

@NoDecaf7 5 месяцев назад

Useful to know Thunderstore is done. Went ahead and removed that from my pc. Still standing by until PDX mods is more fleshed out. I agree about being nervous about how messy PDX mods is going to be in the future. I think I'm disappointed in how flat the "beach" assets look - there's no texture at all so everything feels plastic, especially with how the sun blooms off of them.

@unclemikeyplays 5 месяцев назад

I'm still hoping for a CDPR-like comeback that makes us all wonder what we were worried about, some day... We're not there yet.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeah same....it's a step in the right direction but the bugs and errors are so frustrating, I still can't get it to work consistently

@Jalmaan 5 месяцев назад

We are two days later and the website is still unresponsive. The thing I am most scared about that PDX Mods will be a flop and all mods on it will disappear from existence. Something that wouldn't happen if it were hosted on Steam.

@r3dkoolaide 5 месяцев назад

good thumbnail and title, i was on youtube for something and you hooked me

@radtech497 5 месяцев назад

I appreciate your honest appraisal of the C:S2's potential and the challenges the game faces before that potential can be realized. Although I still feel that, for me at least, C:S2 has turned out to be less and less interesting, relative to C:S1, with each new feature announced, I still hold out a slim promise that C:S2 can at (perhaps) become at some point in the future achieve the level of success and usability as was the case in C:S1. Time will tell...

@darksalt4570 5 месяцев назад

I told the guy who made the Grand Canyon map if you could make the valley with all the mountains around it and the great Salt Lake, and he said maybe🤞🤞

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Ohhh that would be cool 😎

@jgfjfgjfhjf 5 месяцев назад

honestly, all we wanted was cities 1 with all the mods, bigger maps and perhaps better zoning

@kml9166 5 месяцев назад

The fact that the devs need the mods and assets from outsiders who work mostly free (not paid at all) is embarrassing for a game/devs?! This game needs at least end of this year or 1st quarter of 2025 to be really interesting. I don't know how this should function on a console if now high end PCs can barely handle it. It just to make some extra cash. Maybe they should just go over CS3. 😅

@88balloonsonthewall70 5 месяцев назад

The server error is happening to me too today, yesterday i spent two hours trying to get mods and today i have spent almost two hours too because of sync issues. Its a real mess currently and Thunderstore was so much easier to use.

@Trrondee 5 месяцев назад

I was really hoping for assets. Like copy pastable intersections etc.

@OJGamingYT 5 месяцев назад

Sever overloads... who does that remind you of? EA and their SimCity 2013, it's all coming back full circle sadly.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yup sadly you may be right

@OJGamingYT 5 месяцев назад

Also if Paradox ever goes bankrupt or decides not to focus on CS2, we're absolutely F'd. This is why they should've just stuck with the steamworkshop. An indie MOBA game I played had a similar fate, where the devs many years ago decided to use their own servers for matchmaking instead of the built in steam functionalities. And now they're bankrupt and stopped paying on the servers so now no one can play the MOBA unless they downgrade via steam to a really old version when it matchmaked via Steam. But barely anyone knows this so the player count dropped to only 15-20 ppl lol. Cities 2 will suffer the same fate WHEN the time comes. Because no game or server lasts forever.@@CitiesByDiana

@Mg0936 5 месяцев назад

Hey Diana! Do you think you could make an updated video on how to get height maps in Cities Skylines 2 now that the editor is out? I tried to get it yesterday but when I went to apply the height map to the editor, it would never paste it and it said it has to be 4096 by 4096 with a 16 but channel depth. 🤔

@TransportSimulatorNationTSN 5 месяцев назад

I'm not going to lie the beach properties is a very let down, but the assests brighten up the map a little bit and the palm trees also

@S1mL1fe 5 месяцев назад

I had same experience. Worked good then wake up today, they aren’t working. This game was released in October. Next week is April. 6 months. I’m sorry but I’m so frustrated with this. It’s mind boggling they couldn’t get things corrected at this point. The performance updates are nice but the gameplay mechanics aren’t even addressed yet. Houses built on any slope whatsoever are all curved. How long am I supposed to give them before I officially write this off as a colossal failure and straight up money grab. It really seems like they are just doing little tweaks here and there to appear to be doing something. This wasn’t what we were promised and they have had more than enough time to address the issues. Yeah spending $90 or whatever isn’t life changing, but it’s like someone found my wallet and took $90 from me

@unclemikeyplays 5 месяцев назад

Also, is it just me, or does it seem like, if you have mods turned on, and load a city that was started with mods...mods are mysteriously not actually working?

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeah lots of weird issues. When it works it's good, I hope they can fix the weird glitches.

@cyco7229 5 месяцев назад

it's been nothing but frustration to follow Cities 2, I was near preordering since I love Cities 1 but fortunately decided to try Gamepass instead, game is unfinished and should've been delayed or at least be in early access, so far it's been nothing but bad decisions like this dlc, I feel bad for hard working devs that are under terrible upper management

@stevengalloway8052 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I'm having trouble downloading the mods... 🤨

@marcioantoniodorazio9235 5 месяцев назад

Any problems with TAA??? Why they broke TAA?? 😭😭

@A.Martin 5 месяцев назад

Fortunately it is all working nice and fast now.

@samzub 5 месяцев назад

When cs2 is coming to console pls answer even if u don't know just drop ur opinion about release date

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

I genuinely have no idea, my best guess is before the end of the year but really I'm just as clueless as anyone else at this point 😞

@Insomniac_tv 5 месяцев назад

The game will be out in 2 years let it cook they also removed devmode that alone made me give up on it

@jeffreyjumisko5165 5 месяцев назад

I spent ALL DAY trying to get the mods to work. Downloaded, restarted, rebooted, checked dependencies. Never got them working.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeahhh honestly I only got them working once for that stream they haven't worked since.....

@jeffreyjumisko5165 5 месяцев назад

I uninstalled, Quit the game, re-installed them, went through some weird cloud compatibility BS, quit the game, then started back up. I got one mod working. I went back and added another mod, and got that working. So far, it seems to be holding. We'll see what happens tomorrow!@@CitiesByDiana

@stevekirkby6570 5 месяцев назад

Yea, shame abut the server overload!

@rocsaltjohn 5 месяцев назад

Not really impressed with this update. Mods that make the game more realistic aren't included in the paradox mods. Game didn't load the paradox mods some of the time...not really impressed

@taltheairchair 5 месяцев назад

Yes I want it will be good but its not work good 😭

@RonaldoGreen-ib3vi 5 месяцев назад

I will enjoy playing city skylines 1 other cities building games there better city building games other than city skylines 2

@Palpatine001 5 месяцев назад

Ill put it this way: after an hour I was back to CS1 after scratching my head with the mods and all the conflict notices coming up in game. Wont even comment on the graphics as the CS1 graphics in 2015 looked better than the downgrade(?) that happened today

@Sc00terNut-zq3gs 5 месяцев назад

I don't really like the map editor. It loads faster than that of CS1, but I just don't understand the water placement. Far better in CS1 editor. I'm glad to have palm trees now, but as I'm working on an Arctic city, none of these mew assets will do me any good with my current city.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, the water stuff is such a mess in CS2 in general, I feel like the water mechanics were just generally better in the first game

@Sc00terNut-zq3gs 5 месяцев назад

@@CitiesByDiana Don't get me started on the water mechanics in CS2. I tried making a port and all my roads and industry flooded. For some reason I'll get snow in CS2 but never any rain, fog, or lightning. CS1 has better weather and disasters too. Ach, CS2 has some major catching up to do.

@TacoBean 5 месяцев назад

This game is not worth 50$

@vicforas 5 месяцев назад

First

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

💯

@raytbrown2 5 месяцев назад

Wat? Does CO think that music in the background of your video is gonna make me feel better? Sorry! Not attacking you at all. I get it, and TY! But it was still a fail.

@CitiesByDiana 5 месяцев назад

No I wasn't gonna just upload gameplay with no commentary or no background music I'm sorry? 😭

@Nicole-tf3sh 5 месяцев назад

I tried 20 minutes to get paradox mods to work. I didn't succeed and then got tired of it. Also the "dlc" is really a joke compared to what we got in cs1 dlc's... I guess the time for me to play and enjoy this game is not there yet. Btw i you're so beautiful! I really love your style 🤍

@fiftyfive1s410 5 месяцев назад

Tbf they called it an asset pack not a DLC. Is it cheaper or more expensive than a CS1 DLC? I only bought those on sale so idk the actual price 💀

@Nicole-tf3sh 5 месяцев назад

@@fiftyfive1s410yes i am aware, i called it dlc because the price of €9,99 is nearer to CS1 DLC's (12,99€) than CS1 CC packs (€3,99/4,99/5,99) in my currently at least. 😂😢

@James-xx7yt 5 месяцев назад

For an asset pack, as a concept, it's near enough to what I would expect (though perhaps some coastal themed commercial properties and a park or two >:P ), but the price is >certainly< a noticeable increase from similar add-ons for C:S1.