CIVIVI vs SENCUT Button Lock Knives - Why pay more? 

- Sencut uses a free-spinning pivot but most models have enough scale friction that it doesn't matter. + All the WE 9Cr18Mov gets an exceptional heat treatment. It tends to hold a better edge than Spyderco VG-10. (It's also more stainless than either 8Cr13Mov or VG-10.)

New here and I absolutely love the chemistry you two have on these reviews and your love of knives.

To me, the most important message from this video is that there are really good knives out there for all budget ranges inc. sub $50. Sub $50 use to mean buying junk. Now you can get good materials, designs and quality. If you buy the SenCut you won't be disappointed. Thanks for another informative vid.

Great video. Just bought one after seeing all this great feedback and seeing them perform

Funny y'all dropped this vid. The other day I put the Sencut Sachse in my cart to order on Wednesday. Looks like a winner.

Good stuff thanks for showing them to us

Thanx Frankie and Bird on the great video....hey not sure how long it's been out but I bought a Schrade divergent with Aus 8 and axis lock. Take care.

I have all of these civivi’s, excluding the cogent, and ur making the Sachse sound compelling

Totally new in the knife game. I got the Altus and the Sachse. 😊

I have the Sachse and Crowley, both great knives. I do like the clip point on the Cogent....

Got the mini malice open box return from white mountain was slightly reduced along with 10% coupon code. Had some stick, used ox-gaurd and vanished stick fully!

I'm currently having this dilemma. Sencut Sachse or Civivi Conspirator. This video is helping me a lot in ny decision. I'll probably go for the Sencut. Thank you!

I was aiming for civivi Altus, because conspirator was: 1- little to big for my edc, 2- quite expensive. But I found out about sencat yesterday, lover price, bigger blade, same everything apart from blade steel grade. Win win for me! :)

I went with the Cogent in G-10 and all blacked out version. The Sachse might have been an option if it was not sold out everywhere.. but Im not that into thumb studs anyway.. More often than not I tend to lean towards the flippers.

I just picked up the Sencut Scepter about a month ago and have been loving it so far. Only $32! I still have been wanting to get a Elementum button lock so bad but trying to to buy too frequently.

Thanks so much. With the price of American brands, it was nice to get this info on the budget options.

The WE Mini Malice is an awesome knife. On my list.

The main difference I've noticed is the pivot on the Sencut you have to use two T8's Vs. the Civivi has the D pivot or captive. Waiting on the Sache to come back in stock, when it dropped I had just bought several TwoSuns. So far I have the Scepter , Honoris in Cuibourita, and Snap in Cuibourita is in the mail. I used to be able to remember all the names once my collection hit 300 Nope just nope.

Great Review 👍. At these prices why not get both!

One thing you missed is the Civivi has a captive pivot, you only need one t8 bit to adjust the sencut doesn’t. You nee 2 t8 bits and 2 drivers to adjust your pivot. Hassle I personally have to say. Great comparison video!!!

I don't have the sencut I do have the civivi cogent and I love it then I got a civivi conspirator and now I carry that more the conspirator is 1 of my most carried knives might get the sencut I didn't know about it great video

I‘ve got the Sachse and the Crowley by Sencut. Both are great knives. I‘ve also got 4 Civivis and 1 WE but neither of those is a button lock.

I love my sencut Sachse such a great knife for the money!

Frankie is right about Sachse, Texas.

Thank you

Honestly I'm a civivi Conspirator fan. It honestly holds up the best

Nice group of knives 👍

Great video! I love the energy you both bring to your love of knives. I've been a subscriber since your beginning. How many years has it been now? 😺

I was in love with Civivi in 2021... 2022 is all about Kizer and Petrified Fish IMO

I’m going Sencut. If I want more out of a knife I’ll look to get a WE.

Sencut in jade and the damascus Civivi are my picks. I love that jade scales look. Put the jade on that damascus Civivi and that would be pretty nice looking.

Sandvik is one of the holy trinity of budget steels like AUS 10/VG-10 and D2, which punch WELL above their weight, nearly matching super steels. 9cr being equivalent to 440c is certainly a big improvement over 8cr is not "better" than sandvik. 440c is incredible in that it became the basis for some of our best "user" (non-super) steels like 154cm etc.

Man, I thought I knew what knife I wanted. I was about to pick up a SOG Terminus XR but that Sencut Sachse is a damn good lookin knife. 🤔

From Texas and never heard of Sasche, had to look it up lol Looking at the sencut models and several models are named after Texas towns…I’m gonna have to get the Brazoria just because it’s down the road from where I grew up

Sencuts have just become available in Australia !! Every part of me is rejoicing, except for my wallet. Because I do use all my knives and like to also customise them myself, a lower cost option is always welcome.

Does the button lock actually get better over time? I just got the sencut serene and the button does get stuck a little bit so far out of the box

you guys should do a review of the Sencut Watuga that just came out!

I'll always pick 14c over d2 but yeah o think your right i dont think there is too much difference between the 14c and 9cr. Nitro v is kinda similar to 14c as well but a little better. Now if it was 25 dollars extra for nitro v then yeah id say go for it. But not for 14c. I love 14c, one of my favorite steels but not worth that

Got my Sak-see this week.

Even funnier, your Damascus Cogent uses the same 9CR steel on the Sachs 😂👊 I prefer the Sencut between the two.

I think if you are buying a knife and pocket jewelry is your thing then go with the Damascus. If you are looking for a tool it’s almost fiscally unsound not to get the Sencut. Either way they are great budget knives.

I got the Cogent & Altus & We Beacon cause I like them....& still like them....more choices, more colors, better quality steel!

Love your channel. Civivi and Sencut knives are great. I have more civivi than sencut. The sencut scepter got me in to bearing flipper knives when it first came out. There are a couple of nice special praxis knives coming out with gold or copper carbon marbled scales. I like the sencut button lock. Thanks for the video guys.😊🔪 Your awesome.

I don't have any Sencut knives,but I own the cogent and the conspirator.

I recently got a civivi cogent with jade handles so that sencut with jade handles would go great with it, if you want to give it away. Haha!

After I got the Sachse I was then disappointed with the Chevalier. I accidentally ordered it in the same exact color micarta, which is ok. But there are both almost the exact same length and the Sachse is a little more versatile and has better detent and was less $$$. Don't get me wrong the Chevalier is still pretty cool bit knowing what I know now I would probably pass on it

Why can't I find the Sencut with the jade blade anywhere? Even through Google. I thought I found it once and then it disappeared and now nothing..

Sencut is my favorite, but like civivi as well

I've had the cogent before, if I had to choose I'd take the Sachse. The cogent didn't wow me, so I'd pick the cheaper one

What gets me is the quality of We, Cicivi and Sencut. Does anyone ever get a bad knife from them? My last knife purchase was an Buck 110 in s30v, and it was junk. But I did get a new Frankie drawing

One difference between the Sencut and the Civivi you didn't mention that is important to me is the pivot. I don't care about the logo, it's that the Civivi has a captive pivot (notch inside that slots into the scale). The Sencut free spins with T8s on both sides. This means you need 2 drivers for disassembly/assembly (one to hold one side still) and in my experience, free spinning pivots are more likely to loosen over time and harder to adjust.

Look once again here's the deal grasshoppers, they sold you a tomato, and then they sold you a tomtto

I like the sencut. Are the blades the same length?

I only have chevalier button lock in black Micarta. The Civivi has a more attractive blade but I understand the desire for sencut.

I like the Civivi in wood but I want at least s30/s35

i would say, why buy a "premium" WE (i still don't "get" titanium.... when there's micarta) over a civivi. cuz sandvik might be along with 154cm one of the "best" all around steel when considering, value, performance, ease of sharpening, corrosion resistance, edge retention and toughness. you can't say that about 9cr. although 9cr is definitely an improvement over 8cr, it's not in the category of best bang for your buck steels...

Frankie wins on the pronunciation. Sencut has four or five, maybe more that I don’t know about, the Sachse, Waxahachie, Neches, and Brazoria are the ones I’m familiar with, and are all towns in Texas. 🤔hmmm, you think there might be some Texas connection there?

I don't have a purple clip point yet ...🤔

Nice! 👍👍!

That sencut is going to have rolled edges of your going to fidget with it... the edge hits the back spacers

I would rather pay a little more for a 14c28 or D2 blade. Everything else being equal I will go with the better steel if the price isn’t much more.

I had every intention on getting a cogent this year at Blade. When I finally got the Cogent in hand it was okay but there was minor button stick. I know it’s not the end of the world but I’m picky enough that it bothered me. That said after I ran into you guys on day 1, I ran over to the Sencut booth and immediately bought the Sachse at first touch/flip. Mine had ZERO button stick and the Micarta felt great to me. One thing that drives me nuts (but I understand) is that Civivi and Sencut use so many different types of Micarta it drives me insane. You never know what you’re going to get till it’s in hand. With that said, the Sachse hit everything I was looking for. I bought the Sachse and the Brontë for the price of a Cogent and couldn’t be happier. I went back to the WE booth and apologized to Seth and he looked at me and smiled and was like “I know right, I don’t blame you”. Im not saying I’ll never own a Cogent but I have zero regrets going with Sencut. Like you said, besides the steel you can’t tell the difference in quality. Just wait and see if you guys end up getting the new Civivi Teraxe. Stainless steel frame lock with G10 with NitroV for 105 bucks?! Um the design is nice but No Thank you! I’d rather get a 45 dollar Sencut and use the rest for cat food and save the rest to put towards another WE. Not another Civivi for over 100 bones 🦴. /rant over

Good vid 👍👍.

Loved the video hadn’t commented in awhile, but I think it’s les I’ve a why would you pay more situation and more of a gateway drug situation

Frankie is correct on the pronunciation.

A partially serrated blade is good for … I still haven’t figured out what, but there sure are a lot of them available.

The Kizer Assassin using 154cm steel would by my pick over the Civivi Cogent if i wanted to spend 70.

I'd buy the one with the deepest carry ... wood or micarta which one is cheaper ... grams matter!

I’ve got sticky buttons too, but that’s a whole ‘nother topic.

I like the Sencut better so I take one please

Town in Texas is pronounced sacksee…..

I would be willing to pay at least $10 to not have those thumb studs. Thumb studs that are that far forward can really interfere with cutting sometimes. Also like that clip point on the civivi better. Still.. $25 more... hmm.

How cool is it to have a man/wife (girlfriend/boyfriend) team who both LOVE knives???!!!

Well I'll tell you why grasshopper, is because I got this the first one you said first because it came out first and I haven't gotten the second one yet oops did I say yet

The Civivi is just SO much better looking ! Yeah, i'll pay extra .

I think they all live in the same house 🏠 😅😮😊 earned a sub on that one girl

well it is all the same company gettign all the price point budget mid and top teir with we knives...because people always want something pricier to fell good

Frankie's right

I have a bunch of Civivi knives, one we knife and no sencuts. I probably would get the Civivi version. Just sayin 😁

i have the mini malice😅

Some of the button lock knives allow the blade to swing around completely free when pressed. I don't like it. I like some resistance for control of the blade. I kept cutting myself when the blade was not controlled.

The sachse is sechse

I think it’s pronounced Sah-shay, or maybe I’m biased because it sounds better

I'm sooo confused

sencut is now the best budget knives ut there

Hey

Sachse is German for Saxon. Frankie is closer.

Gotta let the handle breathe

The town is pronounced sack-see

If you just need a pocket knife for CUTTING STUFF then there are hundreds of options in the $20 range that come with decent steel (IE: Ganzo). If you want a super steel that holds an edge for years, fuzzy handles, and other bells & whistles then the sky is the limit. What a time we live in.

Mikey Likey

The Sencut looks more similar to the Civivi's Conspirator than the Cogent.

Isn't pronounced Sashay?

I don’t care for thumb studs.

It seem like 2022 is the year of the button lock everybody is putting out button locks 🙄

The name Sachse would be pronounced like saxy

That civivi is a little higher quality. The way I see these 3 companies or labels is the higher the price, the higher the fidget factor... wich translates directly to durability.. can it handle a 200lb ape playing with it and abusing it, vs how long can it handle that same ape playing with it

$25 less for less quality steel

HEEEYAA!

WE and Sencut is where it’s at. Civivi is in an odd spot where the quality is just meh and the price is high. Civivi is charging for looks, but what I don’t understand is why their functional quality is lower than Sencut. They need better QA. An example would be with the cogent, the spring needs to be fixed out of the box, but is perfect on say the Sencut serene. So your paying more for looks but a knife that’s not built as well.