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CK3 Devs respond to BRUTAL DLC backlash 

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It has not been a good year for Crusader Kings 3 so far, and with Roads to Power on the way, there is some serious pressure on the developers to put out an expansion like Tours & Tournaments. In this video, I address some common concerns, go through the developer's response, and talk about new teasers for the upcoming expansion and where we went wrong in the first place with Legends of the Dead.
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@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
Okay Paradox, it was funny the first two times with Royal Court and Legends of the Dead, but I can’t stay up until midnight editing elaborate shitposts forever.
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 29 дней назад
That would imply that other dlcs were good or st least okay releases FoI is bugged to this day where you can get a never ending cycles Tours and tournaments is at best also mediocre, but actually not a good release North lords is not even worth to mention, should be considered part of the base game Lol So pdx pulled it more than just two times lol
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@Bleilock1 I actually liked Tours. I think it provides a great platform for modders and I love how much it opens up the game to all titles. It was very refreshing after Royal Court. I'm also partial to Fate of Iberia. Although I've criticized it in the past, the struggle mechanic was original and it made Spain much more interesting to play
@slip6699
@slip6699 29 дней назад
FoI so far has been my favorite. I haven't really liked the content mechanics of the last dlcs/patches. ​@@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 28 дней назад
@@slip6699 doesnt change the fact its still riddled with buggs Me first would want it to work properly
@dracodarastrix4175
@dracodarastrix4175 27 дней назад
I think it was wrong how they handled the legend system. Not all legends are forgotten. Think of Robin Hood, King Arthor, Alexender the great. Heck some legends even become holidays such as Saint Patrick Day and Saint Nicolas (Dutch Holiday.) What they should have done as extra making a system that remembers the legend. For example combine it with the Tours and Tournament DLC. And at a new Contest in it, named the grand play. Giving the player bonuses on recreating that has ties to their family history. Perhaps also adding it somehow to your feast activity. That our court poet will bring forth all the legends of the world but will mostly pick that happened in your nation. Traveling Bards and Poets were the story tellers back in those days and they were the ones that spread legends and stories.
@Corvin.z
@Corvin.z 29 дней назад
Its so unreal how paradox never takes the blame for backlash, they literally said that the main issue with LotD was “miscommunication about the scope of the dlc”.
@FreeHughes
@FreeHughes 29 дней назад
For real, they could have described legends with all the details, it wouldn't make that feature good. I believe that people are right when they say that mods make a better use of DLC mechanics, but I have no hopes for legends, it is flawed and should have a complete rework
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
It frankly shows a lack of maturity and understanding of community management
@unciuncia420
@unciuncia420 29 дней назад
That is taking responsibility. It's saying they failed to communicate.
@C00kiesAplenty
@C00kiesAplenty 29 дней назад
​@@unciuncia420 People aren't upset that they didn't get what they were promised. People are upset that the DLC and new mechanics in general actively make the game more annoying and tedious to play. The DLC legit makes the game worse.
@SnoweyViking
@SnoweyViking 28 дней назад
"takes the blame", you take the blame for continuing to buy something you don't want, it's a great game, sorry that it can't also take your virginity at the same time, f off
@MrParadux
@MrParadux 29 дней назад
My main issue with Legends is that the story each Legend tells is really similar or even almost the same as other ones. In a two-player game with a friend we and two big ai empires all had almost the exact same story in each respective Legend wich really deflated doing it at all.
@jgamer2228
@jgamer2228 29 дней назад
I agree. Why continue to pay a small monthly fee for a legend that isn’t unique? It’s not even worth the upkeep
@agungsuryapangestu2446
@agungsuryapangestu2446 23 дня назад
And the fact legend can overlap each other, really such
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 17 дней назад
Well, I'm actually raised by wild boars so you opinion doesn't matter. Oh? What's that. You are *also* raised by wild boars?
@Rivski
@Rivski 14 дней назад
Try a dragon. ​@@informitas0117
@solinvictus2045
@solinvictus2045 17 часов назад
Dont these legends also dissapear after a while like wtf
@miguelalvarez2793
@miguelalvarez2793 29 дней назад
I really miss the Bloodlines system, it was quite unique and helped with the replayability of the game, encouraging people to try new approaches to their games in order to try to forge their bloodline. In my opinion, though I can see why some could call them "simple modifiers", they were a fitting reward for a character's journey into greatness, the best part of forging a bloodline was the fulfillment of all the conditions necessary, with the modifiers being a reward that you could maintain for the rest of the game to remember the effort you put into it. In contrast, the legends system feels like a money sinkhole whose only useful purpose is farming legitimacy (which without the dlc is a constant headache for the player)
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 29 дней назад
Eh. It was too much fantasy for my taste
@abseits_ger7274
@abseits_ger7274 27 дней назад
It's literally a pain in the butt. I started playing again and... what the heck is legitimacy and why the hell do I lose it for marriages!?! Or when a child joins the brothers in prayer. And why the hell does everyone hate me at a -40 opinion for it pretty much all through the time and how the hell can I raise it back up without fighting 100 wars, do pilgrimages and the likes. I literally don't want to be higher than a count in the early game anymore.
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 27 дней назад
@@abseits_ger7274 Your right to rule. And you married a peasant probably
@filip4767
@filip4767 27 дней назад
CK2 Bloodlines system: >be a woman >marry matrillineally to a male character with bloodline >profit I swear to god you CK2 glazers didn't play it that much
@ryman1933
@ryman1933 26 дней назад
@@filip4767 I probably have over 1000 hours in ck2 and I still play it more than ck3 to this day. Its just more fun and has an actually complete and fun agot mod. Also, its way easier to mod and fix it yourself.
@aliwamid5422
@aliwamid5422 16 дней назад
My biggest problem with CK3 is that even after nearly 4 years after it's release, it is still so bear bones and repetitive. I feel like the only way for CK3 to improve is for the devs to add around 30 times the events that currently exist. I feel like if more events were added (even if they were short and simple) the game would feel a lot closer to the quality that CK2 set. In CK2 even after hundreds of hours of gameplay, I was still getting new events that I hadn't seen before. This made all the playthroughs for characters feel unique. In CK3 wherever you play it just feels the same, boring and repetitive.
@vladthecon
@vladthecon 16 дней назад
when I first played ck3 it felt like sailing over a deep ocean I could feel all the potential depth I could explore later but was 2 dimensional. years later it just feels 2d (really sad that steppe horse lords feel the same as every other culture/government)
@thechurchoflogicsinandlove619
@thechurchoflogicsinandlove619 13 дней назад
One such event I am dying for as a romani person is the romani expansion(s) into europe and to be able to create myself as my culture. It could be done as a pop up like the Mongol invasion. You can get events to come across them while traveling with tours and tournaments or on walks and outings or during hunting excursions and a pop as entertainment during a feast. I was hoping for romani people and culture to come with tours and tournaments and am still holding out hope for roads.
@sleepysteve111
@sleepysteve111 10 дней назад
Yeah that is PDX for you. Buy the next $800 worth of DLC and you will have what you desire.
@Seelenverheizer
@Seelenverheizer 9 дней назад
a really big event pack would be great. They do get quite repetative and the desicions ofter are very low impact.
@aliwamid5422
@aliwamid5422 День назад
​@@vladthecon Exactly. The potential is there. So it's still possible to fix it, however at the current rate in which they are adding new content, I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
@JoelC724
@JoelC724 29 дней назад
You want to know who else is to blame? You tube content creators "reviewer." Every time you watch one of these videos, they say "in partnership with paradox" or any company for that matter. These companies are paying for great reviews. This latest DLC was universally praised by You Tubers who got the "First Look" by paradox, who afterwards went radio silent, to then comeback and say it wasn't that good.
@Pepper462
@Pepper462 29 дней назад
Yep i agree, why around royal court i unfollowed and stop watching all the big ck3 shilltubers
@ryanjamesbaldock5370
@ryanjamesbaldock5370 17 дней назад
Let’s not forget the 5 of us Console players are STILL 16 months behind PC with updates and we still don’t know if we are ever getting anymore dlc
@Gizz101
@Gizz101 5 дней назад
We ARE getting dlcs still
@ryanjamesbaldock5370
@ryanjamesbaldock5370 5 дней назад
@@Gizz101 we are ?
@kylel4255
@kylel4255 3 дня назад
Never mind the dlc, we just want a functional game to begin with.
@Gizz101
@Gizz101 3 дня назад
@@ryanjamesbaldock5370 yes
@regularfishftw
@regularfishftw 29 дней назад
The thing with Paradox games is that it doesn't matter how bad a release is, when mods for the games are so good.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I talk about this point briefly in my last video with Invictus. Although exceptional mods are a pathway to player numbers some may consider to be… unnatural ⚡️. If the game has a poor enough performance and is cancelled too early, it is an uphill battle to develop certain assets from scratch. Paradox has always treated its modders well, but they can only do so much for cancelled games - hopefully CK3 isn’t next
@Nunes2894
@Nunes2894 29 дней назад
Oh, if only it was that simple. The Invictus mod for Imperator is perhaps the perfect example of how mods should not be overstated as a fixes for a bad game. Even though the Invictus team do awesome work in making Imperator reasonably playable, they still can't do much about the heaps of half-baked, shortsighted, incomplete, and poorly thought out mechanics built into the game.
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 29 дней назад
But there are no really good mods that warrent more than one play through They arnt that good
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@Nunes2894 That is also another important consideration! I can't imagine having to modify plagues while dealing with that buggy release
@Jsipki265
@Jsipki265 29 дней назад
@@Bleilock1 They are you're just baiting bro
@turnopsverdsen9578
@turnopsverdsen9578 29 дней назад
Their response annoyed me big time to be honest. “The problem wasn’t with our half baked unfun mechanic, we just didn’t explain it well enough to you idiots.” No, the mechanic sucked. Legends are an unhistorical generative ai textslop modifier generator and plagues are overtuned garbage. The latest dlc for CK3 have been horrible and I no longer defend it to my friends, we just play Stellaris
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
Stellaris has had such a great turnaround from Astral Planes, and I love that it’s still going strong nearly 10 years later
@evilemperorzurg9615
@evilemperorzurg9615 28 дней назад
The difference in DLC between Stellaris and CKIII is insane. The has never been a bad DLC or update to Stellaris. Some are less good than others but they are all good. Every single DLC and major update for CKIII has made the game worse with a possible exception of Royal court which is just ok. CKIII mods are awesome though.
@DrinkyMcBeer
@DrinkyMcBeer 28 дней назад
​​​@@evilemperorzurg9615I have to massively disagree with you. Stellaris dlc has also been trash on more than one occasion. There is quite a bit that isn't worth it to get even when on sale. There have also been numerous updates that have only served to make the game worse, oftentimes having most of the changes reversed in later updates. Stellar is still a decent game (not as good as it's been in the past and overly bloated now, imo), but it isn't perfect by any means.
@evilemperorzurg9615
@evilemperorzurg9615 28 дней назад
@@DrinkyMcBeer which ones did you not like?
@VAArtemchuk
@VAArtemchuk 28 дней назад
@@evilemperorzurg9615 nemesis was 1) reused low-poly textures for anything, even the big bad galaxy destroyer 2) absolute f ton of game breaking bugs. Some crashes today are still from nemesis features 3) the worst absolutely annoying crisis mechanic you could've come up with. Compare it with cosmogenesis, for example. 4) it's personal, but the new mechanics weren't particularly fun even on the first run. Not to mention that I've played with a "no become crisis" mod ever since, because having a random hegemony leader on the other side of the galaxy ruin your very successful lategame tech rush once was quite enough. AI tends to take the perk without any regards to ethics, which makes the most random shit suddenly get a huge game ending fleets. Not to mention that there can be several at once.
@jet-fury
@jet-fury 29 дней назад
The main problem is lack of player interaction! I thought they learned from the success of TT expansion but they went back to ck2 style dlc where its just reacting to events and waiting. Thats not fun. Harm re duction and prevention by picking the same optimal dialogue is not fun. Do something special that actually involves some measure of gameplay, player involvement, calculation, something!
@kenzieafent6291
@kenzieafent6291 29 дней назад
I really hope they do something interesting the historical "theme" system in the byzantine empire. Hopefully they make it actually engaging and fun instead of making them regular feudal vassals that give you 2 or 3 events as "interaction" with the player.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 29 дней назад
No the main problem is crashing for Xbox players which is half the players
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 29 дней назад
@@majormarketing6552 Lmao I doubt it’s half the players
@Trycoose
@Trycoose 19 дней назад
There's no way half of ck3 players are on Xbox ​@@majormarketing6552
@axiomsofdominion
@axiomsofdominion 29 дней назад
I do want to say regarding Stellaris, that game has a *massive* advantage over the historical games. There's no requirement to satisfy historical accurace map and character wise, to simulate relatively unique historical events, or anything like that. Stellaris devs just have it much easier than the devs of the historical games.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I feel like that is also a challenge in of itself. Having to make a 4X GSG game based in space from scratch when you have little to no experience with the theme in general is a pretty big hurdle. Bear in mind that Paradox did not work on any 4X games prior to Stellaris as of my current knowledge, so the pressure to define what Stellaris was as a product must have been incredibly stressful for the developers. I believe we really saw this with the first few DLC releases like Leviathan where Stellaris was still struggling to define its image. Games like CK3 have a preset map where they don't need to worry about system generation or performance issues nearly as much. I think a far more diplomatic take is that both games have very different challenges in how they decide to implement content, paid or otherwise.
@axiomsofdominion
@axiomsofdominion 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Those are mostly solvable and well understood technical issues among developers/programmers, though. Dozens of studios with less money and technical expertise have made decent space maps. Whereas not a single developer, including Paradox, has been able to simulate the course of history without intense railroading, and they've still fallen short even with that crutch.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@axiomsofdominion They are issues that Stellaris grappled with for quite a while, and they proved to be a recurring issue when it came time to rework core systems of the game. I don’t really think there is a significant amount games similar to Stellaris that were also a similar size and as interactive that came before 2016. I can think of Sins of a Solar Empire and Endless Space 2, but otherwise I view Stellaris as a key innovator
@axiomsofdominion
@axiomsofdominion 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Stellaris was weird because it was real time but there's hundreds of space 4x games out there, dozens of which are relatively recent with 2016 as a benchmark, and which are 6/10 or better games. You don't seem to have videos for anything but like Civ 6 and Amplitude stuff plus Paradox, so I don't know how long you've been playing 4x games or how many you've played. But there's plenty of examples of games that have comparable features to Stellaris, especially the early version prior to the travel rework. After that of course it is a bit different because PDS likes to pile on "features" in a super messy and unintegrated way over many, many years in a way most traditional 4x developers don't do. But none of the individual features in Stellaris are ground breaking.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@axiomsofdominion It may simply end up being a difference of opinions. While Stellaris may not have been a masterwork out of the gate, I personally hold it in high regard over other, similar games. I think Stellaris would have fallen into obscurity like ES2 and Sins if the developers did not aggressively rework the game from the ground up, but again, it's a matter of personal taste.
@Pottatow
@Pottatow 29 дней назад
I was excited for LoD when I read what it offered. I wanted to form a norse/celtic culture and take over Britain having the legend of my house was decendent of King Arthur. It was so disappointing that legends aren't continuous for your house really felt horrible starting the legend only to have my guy die a few years later and basically lock it out for the playthrough as a failed legend. On top of that what made me quick CK3 was the plague spam 9/10 events are a plague popping up and demanding 100+ gold or you lose development. By year 1100 my empire jad under 8 development in every county and it just killed the game for me. I can't fathom why the released the dlc like this it just ruined the game for me.
@stephan4921
@stephan4921 28 дней назад
Really? WIth all the busted disease recovery events I've been racing to 100 development faster than ever... even after they nerfed it, it's still way OP if you focus even a little bit on development.
@leofwulf268
@leofwulf268 21 день назад
not to mention that lil loss of legitimacy that makes people hate you lmao they don't play the game I swear
@stephan4921
@stephan4921 21 день назад
@@leofwulf268 I have played 2 campaigns with the new update and if you're having trouble with legitimacy you're doing something wrong... That's not to say that I love the new DLC and all the stuff they added, but the idea behind legitimacy is going in the right direction imo, even if just to make super cheese strats less viable.
@leofwulf268
@leofwulf268 21 день назад
@@stephan4921 oh no no I just got lmfao'd by like 10 consecutive plagues there's literally no counterplay to that unless I cheated in that run
@stephan4921
@stephan4921 21 день назад
@@leofwulf268 Yeah, the plague frequency is busted. Though it should only give you a legitimacy hit if it started in your domain IIRC, so either you got extremely unlucky or you didn't manage it properly.
@SaintRubicon
@SaintRubicon 29 дней назад
TLDR: PDX forgot what made the CK2 great: emergent roleplaying, and all they needed to do was copy the CK2 DLC and add more depth so their autistic audience will feel challenged (yet not overwhelmed), all in the effort to create emergent roleplaying experiences, like roleplaying a doctor in a disease guessing game, similar to what people felt when diseases popped up in CK2, just with added depth. I think the designer on CK3 doesnt understand what made CK2 and its DLCs successful and well loved. CK2 was always trying to be a simulation that focused on emergent gameplay in the form of roleplaying. It seems their focus on roleplay, while not necessarily a bad thing, it puts the designers in a bad headspace that has them focusing on all the wrong aspects of the game when designing new mechanics. Basically the disease system should feel like a medical diagnosis minigame (that can be bypassed with having good physician who can narrow it down or if skilled enough bypass the minigame entirely with some caveats). The goal is to have so much care put into the DLC that someone actually trained in modern medicine should do better than someone not trained, but in-turn a new player can be successful through repetition and subsequent experience, or with the aforementioned Excellent Physician. If you have the player to essentially play a medical diagnosis minigame (something most players will know very little about), you dont have to worry about roleplaying because the player will be playing a role without realizing it, and that feels good for the player. This minigame doesnt have to be overly complex, but it has to have the mystery of the CK2 DLC, while having extra depth that players expect CK3 DLC to have over the CK2 DLC, and there is no better way to do that then to make a system that has the player activly caring about disease like what wouldve been the case IRL, and having good physicians should increase the players chances of success, so the player doesnt feel trapped in the minigame (if they are willing to pay the ducats for the convenience). This is just my spitballing on the issue, probably not the best explanation but Im working off the cuff here. I do hope CK3 realizes the benefit in emergent roleplaying, and realizes that their audience is autistic enough to love what is essentially a disease guessing game (with added depth over CK2). I think players can connect with that much more than the current system, in part just because guessing the disease you have based on emergent symptoms is something all of us do to some degree, especially when we develop a sore throat lmao.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I think the developers still need to be careful on not taking a super heavy lean into specific roleplaying styles. CK2 was great because it offered a variety of different paid content tailored to different playstyles. I teased this a tiny bit in the video, but DLC like Monks & Mystics allows players to decide if they want to play with some of the wackier elements or not. There is a colossal menu full of customization options when you first open CK2, and I think this is why it was so beloved. While the map is not generated like Stellaris, these mechanics really alter how you interact with certain gameplay elements. I like some of your ideas, but at the same time I would also add options to play it in a more standardized manner. Players have limited bandwidth and may not always be in the mood for more fantastical elements, or vice versa. A lot of people seem to be of the opinion that mechanics need to tie more heavily into roleplay, and I agree. You bring up an interesting point with physicians, and the game so far has done a very lackluster job with tying in character interactions to core mechanics. It may be time consuming dev wise, but I would be willing to wait far longer between releases if there was more thought put into how preexisting mechanics could be interwoven with new content - not just resources like renown and prestige (Although renown should have had a far bigger role in Legends imo)
@SaintRubicon
@SaintRubicon 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Apologies in advance for the long-ass comment, I didnt want to oversimplify and cause the same miscommunication that my first comment seems to have done lol. I think there is too much of an emphasis on creating a game ((everyone)) can play, It leads to trouble designing interesting gameplay loops for PDXs target audience, and thats the primary reason I think PDX is having trouble with CK3s development over something like Stellaris, who knows their target audience. PDX is trying to appeal to everyone and instead appealing to no one, and so they fail to take risks and ignore adding realistic simulation for fear of losing players, but doesn’t realize that they are losing players keeping the systems dumb-ed down like this. But yeah I definitely didnt do the best to convey exactly the design I am thinking of (mainly because every sentence would be full of qualification and workarounds that the player can choose to increase options to deal with the system at hand, so I’ll just explain my philosophy rather than direct mechanics, or else this would be an even longer comment). I guess my main point would be that simulation elements can help encourage roleplay through realism, and it seems the devs also realize this but seem to not be taking risks. The system should be realistic to the point that if someone is trained in modern pathology, the system should be easy for them (thus exemplifying that the simulation is realistic), but the average player, who isnt trained, should feel like interacting with the system is both fun but also allows them to use the system better with experience or educated guessing (You cant remove the 21st century modern medical knowledge from the player, so you have to play into it). For example, if a certain disease is common in the game, then a player should feel confident that those certain, common symptoms will likely (not always) yield that diagnosis; Similar to playing CK2 and having your heart sink when your character gets a headache because you don’t know if your character just has a migraine or is about to die, this is the basis for the “guessing minigame”. The CK2 system has flaws, but the foundation is there for a system where a player can get good at guessing diagnosis to the point where they can recite Wikipedia-article-level of information on the symptoms of Diphtheria, or completely\partially bypass the guessing minigame using currency for an excellent\good physician. Ideally the minigame should be fun enough for people to want to learn atleast certain common diseases and their symptoms, but also giving the player an option to relatively ignore the system, if they can pay (or are the physician themselves). Of course the secondary nature of this system is to implement ways for players to counteract these symptoms, or even cure the diseases, based on their experience with the game or having a good physician recommending treatment automatically. Reward player engagement, but don’t punish the player for not engaging. Regardless, there needs to be some form of engagement from the player the way Reapers Due caused when the player would drop everything to make sure their character wasn't gonna be dead in 6 months. With what we got right now seems more akin to an Ant Farm where you just kinda watch the progress of diseases and their effects on the world, with minimal engagement from the player. I believe the solution is that the gameplay loop needs to harness a degree of realistic mystery to keep player knowledge in check, versus the medieval lord they are controlling, rewarding a knowledgeable player who fully interacts with the system, while even allowing the most casual player to use a good physician to bypass most of the system with ease, but not without risk, as the convenience should come with minor drawbacks. PDX is having trouble rectifying the depth of the systems they made in their previous games, with the ease of access to contemporary casual audiences, and unfortunately they cant seem to get that balance right and its costing them their target audience. At the very least, I think we can both agree on that.
@eu_maxinne
@eu_maxinne 29 дней назад
And now they are proceeding to do the same with EU5... Like "Hey, see all this stuff that make the game cool and accessible to a lot of people, how about we remove all of this, and make it a Imperator/CK3/Vic3 clone? Our latest and greatest successes!"... I pre-ordered Imperator, and now holding for the other games to be developed and discounted long enough for them to be worth...
@senseishu937
@senseishu937 29 дней назад
@@eu_maxinne wdym? what'd they say?
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@SaintRubicon I will agree that Paradox has been making wider, more broadly 'applicable' expansions unlike with CK2. I talk about this in the video, but CK2 took far bigger risks on average with mechanics like secret societies - yet they had a smaller and more dedicated community in my opinion, so they could afford to be more experimental. The point I am trying to make here is that instead of immediately pursuing 'riskier' content, they need to have a better understanding of what the community wants in the first place. Many people have aired desire for government changes - but how can you implement them without making it overly complex and confusing for newer players? I can understand being frustrated as a developer at this point, because finding compromises between certain groups of players is going to be a nightmare to begin with. Just look at all of the different ideas people have throughout my latest comments sections. As much as there is a need for deeper and more dynamic game mechanics, I can understand why Paradox is still being conservative with some of the latest DLC they have put out. They have a great foundation, far stronger than what they started out with in CK2, but you're going to step on some toes no matter your approach. They have talked about balancing and even potentially adding more complexity to existing systems, but what that involves I do not know. In the end, it only makes sense to chase after deeper gameplay mechanics if there is a genuine desire from the community. Do most players want plagues to expand beyond what they are now, instead of focusing dev attention towards other areas, like governments? I don't know.
@DenisPereira
@DenisPereira 29 дней назад
the prices of dlc in my country if horrible, its the price of a 2-3 AA game in sale...
@youngoutlaw5150
@youngoutlaw5150 29 дней назад
The biggest problem in royal Court is that every Noble had a court and the fact that you have to be a key to access it instead of the minimum being a bass is the biggest problem of royal especially since many Dukes used to call himself Kings back in the day
@JackdotC
@JackdotC 29 дней назад
I could tell how much the dlc must have under performed when the dev diary came out and they just openly tslked about the responce and issues, instead of a jokey half rp post about new features. It resembled what CA did after they set WH3 on fire last year. CA also proved that you can bring back players who are angry at you, just give them good content. I really hope they learn that the offers from current dlc is just not enough, esspecilly for the price they are demanding. Some of them have less content than free mods
@caniblmolstr452
@caniblmolstr452 29 дней назад
Roads to power would be like tours and tournaments it would be well received as many characters who are now unplayable would be playable El Cid Rollo Russel Balliol and even Sir Marshal
@jxslayz6663
@jxslayz6663 29 дней назад
starting as Rollo
@caniblmolstr452
@caniblmolstr452 27 дней назад
@@jxslayz6663 Richard the Lionheart would be available.. He would be my first. Then ofcourse Rollo
@Dumdragoon
@Dumdragoon 29 дней назад
We'll make it back into the review section with this one 🗣🗣🗣🗣‼️‼️‼️❌️❌️
@MausOfTheHouse
@MausOfTheHouse 29 дней назад
You have to make a video about Byzantium once the appropriate DLC comes out It's inevitable
@dominusdevacore517
@dominusdevacore517 21 день назад
I think the problem with CK3 is: They need to focus on the people. I really hoped bannerlord would introduce ck elements giving it the perfect in game and grand strategy blend but... nope.
@JackdotC
@JackdotC 29 дней назад
I had the idea to retool the legends system to make it about spreadi g rumors instead. They would be like legends but negative and targeted at people. The more evidence you get, or the higher you diplomacy/intrigue the stronger the effects would become over time. It would lower general opinion, legitimacy, and may e even give people a fake trait. Like murderer. The character may not actually be a murderer, but people think they are, which is bassically the same as what currently happens in the game. I think spreading lies a out your enemies would both be funnier and more memorable than makeing a fake legend about yourself
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
There was a big missed opportunity to incorporate the lifestyle mechanics into how Legends function. I actually think that they could have pulled off doing more generic legends if it in turn used them as a base to build an ever-evolving dynamic tale that you customized throughout your dynasty's history. It was an opportunity to go back and reminisce on past experiences with player characters and make campaigns memorable. What a shame
@thekey1175
@thekey1175 29 дней назад
my original purchase of the game funded the updates. I got less than I did with CK2 and that in total only cost me like 30$.
@Nirob615
@Nirob615 29 дней назад
It's weird to me that legacy of persia and the fate for iberia didn't do to great. They've seem to be popular amongst the youtube creator community and they did what they wanted to do quite well in my opinion. Persia quickly became my favorite region to play after it's dlc came out and it even made fate of iberia better due to the overhauls to the clan government system.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
Persia was criticized because it reused a lot of Iberia's features with a new splash of paint. Players were expecting most of the struggle mechanics to be spread out across a few different regions in similar conflicts for a lower price tag. There's also the discussion of inflation and 13 dollars not being enough for what you get. The intermezzo tends to be much shorter than the struggle, and there are not as many interesting zoroastrian characters to play with in the 867 start date. CK2 got around this because of the Charlemagne DLC, which is one of the best ways to play Persia to this day imo
@senseishu937
@senseishu937 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Is everyone just playing persia just for the zoroastrians? I thought the conflict between caliphate vs non-caliphate supporters was much more interesting 😅
@suppehd
@suppehd 29 дней назад
same, I love playing in persia with the new systems that were added!
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@senseishu937 CK3 has a very strong base of byzaboos partly due to EU4’s influence, and I feel like the desire to restore eastern rome also transfers over to post-sassanid persia
@Nirob615
@Nirob615 28 дней назад
@@senseishu937 Nah I love bringing Nizarism to power since they're the specific muslim faith that have the Hashashin holy order.
@ezekiel8492
@ezekiel8492 29 дней назад
When CK3 first came out, I remember defending it cause some people said it lacked content compared to CK2. I pointed out then that at launch it had a lot less content aswell and it dlc practises were not too good either. I thought then that Paradox would have learned and not make the same mistakes. It seems to me they have become either lazy or just sloppy. Also the console port is absolutely terrible and the fact that Paradox hasn’t tried to improve it themselves says enough. I love these games, poured thousands of hours in them. But as of lately I just feel underwelmed and dissapointed about the game.
@justafella69
@justafella69 29 дней назад
Only looking at the more recent releases: Imperator was garbage, Ck3 sucked, Vicky3 sucked (Cities Skylines 2 also...). They're going to make EU5 also suck and I am going to mald so hard. I just dont see how they improve over games like EU4/Hoi4 with how poor the modern successors have been. This also may just be a personal gripe, but something about the modern Paradox map art styles just doesnt do it for me. I do believe these games will get much better over time but with their current directions, I don't see how any of their new titles surpass their predecessors.
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 29 дней назад
I said it back then when ck3 was released on their forums You didnt listen I will say it again now Its players like you who are at fault why games are so bad You will uncritically defend a small indie, and throw money at them like a mad man And only after 4 years have passes will you come to complain If you complained right away like we did, some of this couldve been avoided But players like you literally encourage such company behaviours and never listen/learn Paradrones
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@justafella69 I'm hoping we're going through a punished Johan arc after Imperator's flop, but that's pure hopium on my part
@Arthur_Grey34
@Arthur_Grey34 29 дней назад
I did the same and regret it.
@kaminekoch.7465
@kaminekoch.7465 29 дней назад
​@@justafella69HoI4 was already a poor successor to the previous games. The game was pretty much untested when released, there were multiple duping bugs that were found out on a release date and it took 2 months to fix the most prominent ones because the dev team took a vacation. It's barely reaching the depth of vanilla HoI3 which in itself was not the greatest launch. It just sold well because they promised QoL features that would make HoI3 a bearable experience for most people.
@perun5984
@perun5984 20 дней назад
Im still waiting for Nomadic government dlc (something that should've been in the base game)
@bigjimmyenglish
@bigjimmyenglish 29 дней назад
Wow wow, I really liked Royal Courts and Northern Lords DLC! The Finals game is selling minor visual wears for $20!
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
We may never truly escape the consequences of priced unit packs from EU4. The game was rigged from the start
@davincisama
@davincisama 28 дней назад
We already had those on EU3, but at least those were cheap.😢​@@4Xtraordinaire
@sweetpurple8812
@sweetpurple8812 27 дней назад
@@davincisamait was in the napoleon game too
@LunaMoon0
@LunaMoon0 29 дней назад
i just want the CK2 dlcs in ck3 and the ck2 law system. i want more roleplay and immersion
@user-sj5wz7tt9u
@user-sj5wz7tt9u 29 дней назад
I hope there is a mod for ck2 law system
@LunaMoon0
@LunaMoon0 29 дней назад
@@user-sj5wz7tt9u but i play the most time the agot mod and this dosent work
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 29 дней назад
We do need a law system, but hopefully not the one in ck2. That one is completely lackluster and vassal contracts already do a better job at what it tried to do.
@LunaMoon0
@LunaMoon0 29 дней назад
@@DanJuega ck2 law system is better than none
@DanJuega
@DanJuega 29 дней назад
@@LunaMoon0 Lmao all the things you can do in ck2 law system you can do in ck3 with vassal contracts and centralization. Only thing missing is stuff for women’s right and by extension minorities.
@user-jy7vb2gm3h
@user-jy7vb2gm3h 22 дня назад
Hello Crusaders. I have a small question. Did they fix the feast prestige bug? I haven’t played for a while and I don’t want to start a new game, only to stumble upon a stupid bug.
@anareel4562
@anareel4562 27 дней назад
Paradox is doing this with all their games, CK3, HoI4, Cities Skylines 1&2. It's been their thing for a long long time
@celwenileran2135
@celwenileran2135 29 дней назад
Paradox needs to actually take a step back and think what made CK3 into such a good game. They're wasting time and resources on things that we don't need. Legends are glorified money sink modifiers with auto generated text. Meanwhile modders have added fully playble blackjack.... and ARENA WHERE YOU CAN FIGHT. Paradox should focus more on expanding warfare so it's actually more bearable. They should focus on more interaction between characters that aren't events. Diplomatic negotiations, deals, promises. On the darker side, add schemes, sabotage, espionage etc. Instead of adding new events and some additional modifiers that barely matter.
@Bleilock1
@Bleilock1 29 дней назад
Ck3 was never a good game There were players like me who complained since day one And delusional players like you who defended it under the pretense thatb"it will get better" Now you even have memory wipe and all of the sudden "it used to be such a good game" Can you stop defending pdx? It was never a good game And it didnt become a good game after 4 years Stop shilling and buying if you want to see changes, players like you are to blame on the state of gaming industry quality Lol
@justynajoniak6737
@justynajoniak6737 29 дней назад
Also there is a mod that adds a WHOLE CONVERSATION SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY ADDS MODIFIERS TO THE GAME. Like I can actually talk with my lord to buy a title off one of my fellow dukes. This is what Royal Court was meant to be.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 29 дней назад
Wait hold on, I think I missed the part where CK3 was ever a good game, because as far as I recall since release it has basically always been just a very shallow experience that despite having some good ideas never went anywhere with them and is still plagued by a spam of meaningless events (with bad writing might I add) in lieu of an actually deep gameplay. CK3 has never actually been good, so far it has only been a pretty shallow game that has the *potential* to be good but is never taken anywhere, it's like if you have the foundation of a house but it's almost completely empty with very few rooms inside and the ones that are there lack furniture or wallpaper, but instead of working on it you just decide to focus on renovating the facade to make it as appealing as possible to onlookers who might be interested to come see it closer (the job is sloppy however)
@senseishu937
@senseishu937 29 дней назад
@@sephikong8323 I think he meant ck2
@holyromanempire3445
@holyromanempire3445 23 дня назад
​@@justynajoniak6737 whats the name of the mod?
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 25 дней назад
I should’ve known something was up, the DLC bundle has been on 20% off sale for a good bit. Like I wasn’t complaining cause it gave me time to get it a wait a thought was the fairer price but I swear they had never had sales that for long for new/upcoming stuff
@axion4743
@axion4743 11 дней назад
What are your thoughs on the game called Old World? similiar to ck,civilization
@pyxelknyght7149
@pyxelknyght7149 29 дней назад
Imo they’re leaning too far into the roleplaying aspect and by extension the ‘make your own fun’ aspect of the game. It’s a video game, add some game lol Actual mechanics to interact with. Modders understand this with Princes of Darkness adding coteries and extra highly expansive skill trees you can earn XP for on the side so characters are significantly more diverse and Godherja has interactable stories down well especially now they’re adding ‘end the world’ scenarios players can work towards.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I'll break from the crowd and defend the heavy lean into RP. I think this is one of CK3's strong suits, and one of the reasons why it is so different to other titles. A lot of paradox games are falling into the trap of going heavy into pop mechanics which can cause performance issues and lean into micromanagement (See: Stellaris & Sectors). I will say that there is a cutoff limit for me personally where there is too much roleplaying expected, but it's also the heart of the game.
@pyxelknyght7149
@pyxelknyght7149 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Roleplay mechanics are nice but that’s all they’re giving us from what I can see. I’m still waiting on basic mechanics from CK2 like Republics and Nomads to get ported over.
@senseishu937
@senseishu937 29 дней назад
@@pyxelknyght7149 I agree, more depth in basic mechanics like warfare and the politics between the ruler and the council would add a lot to the game. I think they went the right direction with their upcoming byzantine expansion, I'm just hoping it's good.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
@@pyxelknyght7149 I wouldn't even say that Legends offered great roleplay mechanics. There are very little opportunities for character interactions and building a family history. The ideal DLC adds key features that create opportunities for more complex gameplay AND roleplay if the players want to pursue it
@elmarm.5224
@elmarm.5224 25 дней назад
Roleplaying is important, but what lacks is a gameworld thats alive. Religions are static, there is no real inter vassal interaction, vassals are only thorns in your side you have to appease or humiliate instead of them being the stewards of the land you cannot control yourself. There is no real essence behind tge actions of the AI. It only reacts beside declaring war or havi g a faction.
@kidfox3971
@kidfox3971 28 дней назад
How about charging $15 for a South America DLC where half of the focus tree is copy and pasted from one country to another? Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina and Chile all have the exact same military tree.
@budderk1305
@budderk1305 27 дней назад
paradox is a publicly traded company, they create revenue not to make more content but to appease shareholders, no matter if some of them are the same people who previously held stakes in the company
@yungfiend6830
@yungfiend6830 29 дней назад
I agree with the you and the devs that CK3 needs more longevity for campaigns. All too often I quit a game at the empire stage bc it gets boring or I'm getting overwhelmed with pop ups. I think adding more late game decisions would make it more interesting. Especially for the cultures that don't get much love. Also a new notification system would be useful. The pop ups would be alot less annoying if they were just notifications that I could open. The main issue I have with pop ups is when I'm at war I can't see shit and they can sometimes fuck over my game if I'm in 2x or 3x speed.
@princeniccolo8299
@princeniccolo8299 7 дней назад
For me this shit just costs too much for being a visualized pick your own adventure book with Microsoft excel. The DLC should be at LEAST half the cost they’re asking for. Do I buy a whole game like V rising? Or add 4 more flavor text boxes to my game about maps?
@alexgeorgescu2122
@alexgeorgescu2122 29 дней назад
I just want all the CK2 DLC's with CK3 graphics and portraits...do i ask for too much?😢
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
Monks & Mystics my beloved...
@tosspot1305
@tosspot1305 29 дней назад
I actually prefer the ck2 portraits and ui. It feels more historical. Ck3 feels like a mobile game
@sitrilko
@sitrilko 28 дней назад
@@tosspot1305 this!
@LugftHuronAC
@LugftHuronAC 29 дней назад
I dont have any of the DLC. Are tbey worth it? I feel as though they cant be.
@saint8257
@saint8257 3 дня назад
Tours and Tournament is semi worth it. The rest are on-sale only.
@HD.Keem96
@HD.Keem96 29 дней назад
I just want Viceroy/Viceroyalties from CK2 to come back along with Tributary states.
@GreenSkinGentleman
@GreenSkinGentleman 29 дней назад
They should just sell a "All the good CK2 features" DLC for CK3. I need my ducal dynamic crusader states back.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
Tributaries would fit very well with a DLC focused on the near east/steppes akin to horse lords in my opinion. There is a lot of potential for interesting content with the mongol invasion and the conflicts that arise from it
@HD.Keem96
@HD.Keem96 29 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire Maybe tributary was the wrong word to use I ment more like Client States where they do partially what vassals do without the risk of rebellions. P.S I agree that the far east needs more content I literally never play over there
@tosspot1305
@tosspot1305 29 дней назад
They've already stated that they have no intention to bring back viceroyalties. It's annoying because I want them back aswell
@PrettierNPastel
@PrettierNPastel 28 дней назад
​@GreenSkinGentleman i mean most of them wouldnt fit in the way ck3 is done which a big reason why they aren't their yet. Also ill be honest so many of the ck2 features are so half baked and rushed like the tributaries and thats after being fixed through updates and patches. I do wish paradox would focus on updating and bringing those back though. Hope the byzantine dlc has some of that spark
@Liberater4589
@Liberater4589 29 дней назад
this along with the cities skyline and vic 3 announcements i think is evidence of a big shakeup going on behind the scenes and a serious reflection of their development process
@wurzelbert84wucher5
@wurzelbert84wucher5 29 дней назад
I don't know if it's a real shakeup or just panic responses.
@Tetragramix
@Tetragramix 27 дней назад
Stellaris continues to be the best. Not a high bar though.
@Gizz101
@Gizz101 5 дней назад
​@Tetragramix only downside is the repetitive start makes me miserable (and makes me want to stick to saves that take 90 irl years for 1 in game day)
@imooumoo4
@imooumoo4 7 дней назад
I'll never get past the fact they removed the Deus Vult shout when a crusade is declared
@ArkusVI
@ArkusVI 29 дней назад
I'm convinced the heads of these major game devs are made up of chimps in suits. These people are so out of touch with the player base that it isn't even funny. It isn't that difficult to find out what the player base wants.
@Tetragramix
@Tetragramix 28 дней назад
They just want money. Everyone should not only leave negative reviews, but also refund/not purchase the dlc.
@HDreamer
@HDreamer 27 дней назад
It isn't? Half the time the player base wants things that are in opposition to each other or have half-baked ideas with no idea how to implement or balance them. By now I don't even take steam reviews serious anymore, because it feels like there is a hard core of people who just review negatively anyway, because they hated the last Stellaris DLC or something else.
@elmarm.5224
@elmarm.5224 25 дней назад
This. We habe romaboos, weird nationalists and whatnot. Giving the masses what they want is not always the best choice. Heck. I bet those who wanted landless gameplay will be disappointed by the pdx version of it just because it wasnt possible to logically implement better in RtP. I think also that a lot of the playbase is detached of what they want in ck3. ​@@HDreamer
@HDreamer
@HDreamer 25 дней назад
@@elmarm.5224 I remember the glory days of debates about what culture and religion Bosnia should have...in EU3! lol never mind that anything regarding the Balkans turns to madness anyway,but the details demanded for one single province were insane.
@frankfrankfrankfrankfrank
@frankfrankfrankfrankfrank 20 дней назад
​@@Tetragramix That's why businesses exist buddy. If you dislike capitalism, move to Venezuela
@jarluhtraed9725
@jarluhtraed9725 25 дней назад
I'm still waiting for a diplomatic mapmode that allows me to see my allies and enemies while in multiple wars 😊 Still the biggest problem with ck3 stays the same even after all dlc....every county is equal to play, map painting through conquests (and some inheritance) (Then i wanna ask, does the IA have the stationing bonuses for it MAA? Because soo often my maa are enough to win a war with somebody with more/better maa and levies like their maa have no modifiers)
@iseeyou5061
@iseeyou5061 28 дней назад
Last time i play was in Tours and Tournament but yeah i did had a full playthrough. Basicly the experience are how your retinue could be stat stacked enough to defeat enemy very large levy in late game or making enough money to sustain your own very large levy. My feeling on CK3 have been put on halt because my laptop will be cooked if i play more of them. I wait until Republic or Nomad.
@jonnofish7567
@jonnofish7567 29 дней назад
I think the longest Dynasty i have played was like 200 years. I also play much more role play style. I also hope that you will be able to play a republic as landless gameplay.
@motivationallizard6644
@motivationallizard6644 29 дней назад
As a ck3 player who only really has the base game (I’ve only bought the Viking DLC) I’d say the DLC’s are ill received because most of their contents are just things that should’ve been in the base game already. I can understand having stuff like cults, more unique interactions, and or clothing choices being DLC, but having what should be base game features in a medieval game like having a court, unique events like tournaments and custom feasts, or culture mergers is just stupid especially in a bad economy like we have now. If it was 10 dollars per DLC I could understand but there’s no way that I’m paying 20+ dollars for something that is neither expansive nor justifiable as not being a base game feature. Stuff like the Byzantines not having having an imperial system and not being able to play as republics is just stupid and either shows a lack of though or time that went into the game’s initial development. I’ve played a few mods and I don’t really see a justification for why most of this stuff wasn’t either base game material or released as non dlc. Something I’d absolutely pay for is a map expansion to Asia, more events like uniting the North Sea empire that actually feel rewarding, or even more horde invasions. Just giving us what we already should’ve had just feels greedy and lazy especially when moders casually do more in a few months than paradox has done in years. At the end of the day I just want to role play so the upcoming dlc seems promising since unlanded characters seems both expansive and as something that the base game shouldn’t have. It seems like a true dlc as long as paradox doesn’t botch it.
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I think a separate game focused on Asia would make more sense as opposed to adding even more regions east of India. There are already enough areas of the game that need to be developed, and east asia would just be adding fuel to the fire
@Gizz101
@Gizz101 5 дней назад
​@@4Xtraordinaire adding China would ruin the game (not just being good but from the crashes) as China will break apart it will reform it will break again and reform 80 times IN ONE FUCKING YEAR
@axiomsofdominion
@axiomsofdominion 29 дней назад
CK3 has failed over and over as far as deep and meaningful game mechanics. But what it *does succeed at* is creating a solid platform for dollhouse activity. That's why you see so many Sims: Medieval and Sims 4 content creators and even fans playing CK3. To these people it doesn't matter that the game has functionally 0 support for character relationships mechanically.
@StalinsGhost
@StalinsGhost 29 дней назад
Yea except the game got the DM from the City council accounting department.
@thepedrothethethe6151
@thepedrothethethe6151 8 дней назад
Na, Iberia and Tournaments were good
@Ragatokk
@Ragatokk 24 дня назад
Holding jousts on cooldown is too much event spam to begin with.
@rustyshackelford3590
@rustyshackelford3590 22 дня назад
Nice background music
@hardlo7146
@hardlo7146 25 дней назад
Isn't it crazy that it took Paradox until now to add message settings, something that CK2 has on release more than a decade ago?
@tsfnope3286
@tsfnope3286 29 дней назад
Me on console still struggling to even get into the traditions tab: 😔
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 8 дней назад
I think the main power of stellaris is its custodian team, going through old content to improve it all the time
@ar0naimstar69
@ar0naimstar69 11 часов назад
In Poland we have the highest prices in the world due to exchange rate even higher then in USA or Germany and for such little content and taking in consideration salaries in Poland i think that 2.5$ would be to much and here it costs 13$
@reeeeeeeeeeeeeeman6757
@reeeeeeeeeeeeeeman6757 28 дней назад
Hi not sure if you heard but console ck3 is being developed by dragons lake studio now instead of lab 42
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 28 дней назад
Thank you for updating me! I’ve been very slow to check on console updates, but I hope things start to turn around
@deadwaste1
@deadwaste1 10 дней назад
Can you avoid legends of the dead dlc to play the game?
@dennisshigeno2875
@dennisshigeno2875 24 дня назад
my biggest problem is that after finishing a legend, the create legend artifact doesnt work, as well as the diseases ruins the game as you every year almost you have to go into hiding due to some bs
@Unsei15
@Unsei15 28 дней назад
In CK3 the only game I ever did from 867 all the way to end date was a matriarchal coptic Nubia game. I still have notes of every character and a small summary of what they did. But aside from that I still find myself going back to CK2 cause it's just that good. I wish CK3 gets its act together cause it obviously has the potential to be better but I'm not hoping much tbh.
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo 25 дней назад
The multiple succession options is huge, completely transforms the game! Now I can give up the throne without feeling like I've been robbed because a shitty character I don't want to play is set to inherit. I feel it allows me to play much more organically and explore more, and is likely to see me finish CK3 games to end date
@RubberToeYT
@RubberToeYT 29 дней назад
The free update of legends gave practically full plague mechanics (or enough to feel playable) which I am happy with as the legends mechanics locked behind a pay wall don’t seem worth it
@Joseph-ql6ly
@Joseph-ql6ly 25 дней назад
I think dlc is expensive I still bought it but I would expect more for the price. Because dlc barely is released each year. Like only 3-4 a year.
@TheMock100
@TheMock100 25 дней назад
Maybe I'm part of the minority but I play with the goal of unlocking specific achievements. I look at something like 'Beta Israel', check what else I can pick up along the way and that's it. Once I get the achievements, that's the end of that run. It means I do end up playing all over the map and can balance my time between easy achievements and very hard runs
@Gizz101
@Gizz101 5 дней назад
Bene-israel btw or beni
@gawkthimm6030
@gawkthimm6030 День назад
I never play for official achievements, I set strange goals for myself and play towards those; hybrid Greek-norse culture that has united Christianity under a new Temporal pope. Reform Sunni islam to be syncretic with Christianity before the crusades even start. star as Khazaria and convert to organized Jewish religion and create a hybrid; khazar-Israeli or khazar-Magyar culture and conquer eastern europe and the steppes before the mongol invasion and stop the Mongol khans. form the west Francian empire as the Karlings and form a new French-Saxon or French-Dutch hybrid culture and take Britain and culture convert it all. I also always has a side-quest; of capturing various people from famous dynasties and have them stay as my landless courtiers and have them breed offspring with albino - dwarf and have them as my Jesters.
@randombystander5324
@randombystander5324 21 день назад
I feel like Paradox is expecting the player to roleplay being a medieval run of the mill ruler and they design the game along those scales. But then the player decides to conquer all of Europe and the Middle East in one lifetime and then rightfully expects to be remembered as Alexander the Great Reborn, which the game doesn't do. There has always been a disconnect between the actions of the player and the reaction of the game (even in CK2) and I don't know if Paradox is even interested in fixing that because it would require them to modify their vision for the game.
@invit87
@invit87 13 дней назад
I don't know... my attitude towards paradox decreases with each new game released, with each new DLC. I have the impression that they have changed from masters of making grand strategy games to masters of marketing. There are a lot of promises in their productions, a lot of giving hope for a good title. and then it all breaks down and suddenly it turns out that no one knew anything, that the poor state of the game was not their fault. And everything you don't like will be fixed in paid DLC. Which, by the way, doesn't fix much, but rather causes more problems. At the beginning of Tinto Talks, Johan said that the average time to develop new games is less than half a year. SERIOUSLY?! The most complicated strategy games on the market take half a year to develop?! GET ME OUT OF HERE. What then is the reason for the constantly increasing price of games? Certainly not from an increase in quality. Lately I've been feeling like I'm like a sheep that Paradox is slowly shaving as they please.
@kristianfagerstrom7011
@kristianfagerstrom7011 25 дней назад
Paradox is also notoriously bad at QoL improvements of the interface. It is crazy that you still cannot filter court invitation by acceptance for example.
@rigs9801
@rigs9801 28 дней назад
to be clear - they said estates were available to all characters living in an administrative government type realm, not all characters in general.
@elmarm.5224
@elmarm.5224 25 дней назад
Tbh, I find that dev diaries should really be more like diaries. Weekly updates and in-sights into the development of the game and the people behind it. Not only frequently coming up advertisment texts, when a new dlc is coming up.
@angryhermit4291
@angryhermit4291 25 дней назад
Even the so called free culture addition had the tools to access it locked behind a dlc.
@rwnmg
@rwnmg 6 дней назад
The game play now just boils down to: your vassals just keep starting factions against you again and again and again. Rinse and repeat. Everything surrounding that is just a footnote.
@daxxad6
@daxxad6 28 дней назад
You forgetting that we on Console are far behind with dlc still dosent have have any sort of update if gonna even get seson 2 at all.
@PiacH21
@PiacH21 28 дней назад
if RoP goes badly, I don't think I will buy a chapter of Crusader kings 3 anymore. Up until now I have trusted and received stuff of little value, I only save TaT for me the only decent DLC released. I open a discussion on paradox's philosophy of putting the real content in the free patches, I'm pleased that those who can't afford or don't want to buy certain DLCs get some content, but I find it frustrating that those who pay don't get anything important by paying LoD I got "legends" meh much worse than bloodlines and black plague "wow". I think it's thanks to us consumers that people who don't pay can enjoy these substantial free patches and I think we consumers deserve even more content than the little we receive compared to what we pay. sorry for the bad English this message was written using google translator, greetings from Italy
@CalTheDamned
@CalTheDamned 28 дней назад
Its because there wasnt enough in the base game on release and they are releasing all these DLC's but they also havnt got enough content. If people can remember the last year of CK2 they were releasing free updates that actually improve the game maybe these updates didnt have enough content but with how many updates there were during that 1 year it made it worth it, whereas CK3 we are lucky if we get 2 major DLC's and 2 major updates a year, meanwhile modders are making whole DLC Sized mods and others feel like a new game LOTR and GOT for example, im not saying the devs dont work hard but other game devs seem to be more involved with their game with more frequent updates, i feel like the devs of CK3 dont even know their own game or playerbase or where its going.
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand 6 дней назад
CK3 needs something like the custodian team stellaris has
@Enjoirules4u
@Enjoirules4u 29 дней назад
I never make it very far in my games, typically because things get stable and there isn't much to do. But conquerors sounds good, I've been using the mod Historic Invasions which is the same thing essentially. That's really what I wish there was more of: an actual historic narrative that you get to be apart of. Basically the reason why I kept playing CK2 with HIP for a loooooong time after ck3 came out. Making it to endgame would be awesome if the world genuinely changed in an at least semi historical manner. Right now YOU the player have to MAKE the AI recreate history yourself, by intervening and funding it (have to get another mod to let you join all the wars, haha).
@HighEnnui
@HighEnnui 9 дней назад
They should pay the mod creators for keeping this gangrenous beast of a game alive
@lordjustinian2913
@lordjustinian2913 27 дней назад
I think Legends can take a hint from Bloodlines, because CK2 always did a good job with balancing the fantastical elements and the more medieval elements and when you played CK2 so much more existed, I think Legends needed to honestly be part of a later DLC with combat being a big part of a DLC before then as fighting to the death and being a great fighter should be something which allows you to create a Legend and thus that Legend will give you modifiers like Future house members have a higher chance of gaining high prowess traits and high Martial traits. I will say Minigames don't really belong in Crusader Kings, it should very much still be a bit RNG heavy because the RNG of Crusader Kings II allowed every playthrough to feel different. Crusader Kings III on the other hand, a lot of the leaders do feel too similar because lifestyle events are always very similar. Although I will say CK2 is a lot harder than CK3 ever was.
@peebsyt2870
@peebsyt2870 26 дней назад
For me its all the busywork, all they're doing is adding buttons to click that don't manifest significant changes in the experience. I cringe and screech with stress when i have to go through and refill all my courtiers, and legitimacy and legends feel just like more additions to that long list of chores that get in the way, not add.
@satakrionkryptomortis
@satakrionkryptomortis 29 дней назад
how dare you describe my cdk3 family loop-da-loops so perfect at 4:22
@Ionenkanone1
@Ionenkanone1 21 день назад
To be honest after a game with my in friend in wich I had plague debuffs for almost the whole game. I will never play without disabeling plaugues via mod ever again.
@mrcoffee9529
@mrcoffee9529 19 дней назад
I just want crusades start dates and the features we had CK2.
@Joobaiyes
@Joobaiyes 8 дней назад
I just wish, as a console player, we can eventually get good dlcs for both versions of the games. Please may roads of power be good so when it (eventually) comes to console I can play the Byzantines in all of their glory.
@MKristensen
@MKristensen 27 дней назад
I want more start dates, because I don’t like the current ones. I would like a 1204 or 1081 one, were Byzantium is in trouble. The updates make mods have a hard time to adapt, so having the devs making the start dates is best.
@Final272
@Final272 22 дня назад
Im enjoy the content of ck3. Of course new dlc is always met with back lash and its up to the dev to talk with their community and work it out.
@fiendish9474
@fiendish9474 16 дней назад
I honestly can't believe I'm saying this but I would've preferred if they just cut and paste LotD's relevant mechanics from CK2 (bloodlines and plagues). Bloodlines were a fine mechanic as a permanent reward for a notable achievement and would've melded well with ck3's new family tree and diverging house system. Instead you get the chatgpt ai generated 3 chapter stories that last some years at best. Ck3 plagues needed to be playtested and get more events, getting an event notif and Alms events every time a plague hits one of your provinces (which is crazy often) is obnoxious. For landless gameplay I beg paradox to just study the Rise to Power mod from ck2, it had mini activities to build up wealth and influence from literal nothing and would work really well with the travel system
@memberberry5898
@memberberry5898 12 дней назад
sir kindly credit jeremy soule in the description imagine someone hearing this heavenly music, and not being able to find it
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 12 дней назад
YT should already be auto tagging and crediting the music in the description with the video being over a week old
@memberberry5898
@memberberry5898 12 дней назад
@@4Xtraordinaire it hasn't been done, since it's intermittent, hardly audible, and not even licensed with youtube probably
@ajaxkay8701
@ajaxkay8701 23 дня назад
bros unlocked the algorithm with the ck3 content keep it coming btw i love it
@upfromthestorm7186
@upfromthestorm7186 2 дня назад
I have over 2k hours and still am yet to finish a game
@SaintRubicon
@SaintRubicon 29 дней назад
Your channel is criminally underrated, you cover the news I want to hear about PDX that no other creator seems to talk about. Truely carved out your own niche and the highly produced content is great!
@4Xtraordinaire
@4Xtraordinaire 29 дней назад
I really appreciate it! 💜
@saffron1627
@saffron1627 29 дней назад
In short: Content creators that criticize Paradox too heavily risk being blacklisted from collaborating with them.
@SaintRubicon
@SaintRubicon 29 дней назад
@@saffron1627 unfortunately, yeah
@edmeister4031
@edmeister4031 25 дней назад
They should have kept the fantasy elements in tbh. It's part of the reason why I play CK2 more (8.8k hours and counting) than CK3 (1k hours) to this day. Well...that and the mods. I'm sure if the landless DLC is great, then the current game and mods will feel a hell of a lot better. TBH, the only reason I'm even playing CK3 right now is because After the End mod is so good and goofy. CK3 needs to bring back some of the goofyness tbh. I miss Glitterhoof Empires :( Also, I would have preferred 1081 Alexiad in addition to the 1178. That was always a classic start date.
@Turambar88
@Turambar88 26 дней назад
The difference between bloodlines and legends is that bloodlines were fun.
@chansesyres4117
@chansesyres4117 15 дней назад
This is my favorite game of all time, but after the last two DLCs made the game unplayable on console, I stopped getting the new DLCs. They might as well make a new game at this point.
@joshuabixby2776
@joshuabixby2776 27 дней назад
I actually wanted an earlier start date 😅
@randomguy6152
@randomguy6152 24 дня назад
I liked the culture merging system, to bad I cant use it without paying also they added it to the starter kit but im not paying $60 twice so once more its them trying to suck money from me for things that should be in base game
@koutaXkaede
@koutaXkaede 29 дней назад
I had to rewind a couple times to make sure I heard that right. The Grand Strategy Incest genre lmao
@katamattyon
@katamattyon 27 дней назад
I've been playing CK2 since launch, I'm yet to feel the need to jump to CK3
@AssasiCraftYogUscus
@AssasiCraftYogUscus 27 дней назад
I think part of the issue is that the mods have eclipsed anything pdx seems willing to do. Adding in Asia and all of Africa, trade routes, new governments, more events, bookmarks, etc. So now pdx is content making mod level content that isnt worth buying
@jeffreyhornblower6515
@jeffreyhornblower6515 15 дней назад
In 700 hours of ck3 ive played till the end maybe three times total and two time were for mega campaigns and one for the achievement. Otherwise i play 200 in game years
@Joseph-ql6ly
@Joseph-ql6ly 25 дней назад
Ok I didn't know ck2 dlc was sooooo good! Holy cow! I hope that gets a new gen update.
@janosch13100
@janosch13100 10 дней назад
The argument for piracy honestly is that alot of people who pirate dlc or games would not have bought them to begin with. They either didn't have the money for it, or just didn't think it was worth their money. So often times when someone talks about the damage that piracy does its completly innacurate because it assumes every single person that pirates a product was also a customer when that's not the case at all
@Cainite
@Cainite 20 дней назад
I got CK3 gifted on release and never touched it once. I still play Ck2
@dsb333
@dsb333 24 дня назад
Stellaris latest DLC is the best thing Paradox has done in years. They need to use that formula for everything else!
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