Exactly. I was even afraid that this will be just like another clickbaity video of vauty in which he speaks nonsenses about something he has zero knowledge about, but to my surprise, this video is really well informed and properly researched.
Oh god, I'd forgotten how you have to mind control this guy... this always cracks me up; truly a gem of roleplaying and using all of your available tools.
You're right about the possible Hyjal raid. I was in the vanilla closed beta, and I remember at the end of it, devs did a few AMA style threads about the game. One of them said they planned for their "final" vanilla dungeons and raids to be Karazahn (dungeon/small raid, probably like UBRS amounts of players max) and Hyjal/Emerald Nightmare. We didn't get Emerald Nightmare until Legion, so that idea was definitely discarded. At the same time, you could wall jump/climb through some parts of Darkwhisper Gorge as late as TBC and Wrath to sneak into the Hyjal zone, which was cool as hell but also kinda creepy since it was empty. I realize my post here is like saying "my uncle works for Nintendo and he told me everything" but they were pretty smart about spilling the beans only then, when the frenzy around release was accompanied by an incoming beta testers' forum wipe. I remember it because I was hyped as hell when I read about that, and we did at least get Karazahn reworked into a TBC 10 man raid.
@Todd Crabtree That's very cool to hear! I knew about Karazhan having read John Staat's "WoW Diary", but I didn't know they wanted a Hyjal raid to be released during Vanilla as well. In the book there's a picture of the Azeroth map with their "dungeon plans" from 2001 where Karazhan and the Dragon Isles are marked for example but not Hyjal. There is something called "The Dreaming" though which it says is accessed "via World Trees" so that might be it. It's just written out in the sea between the two continents.
Wow, that must have been an awesome experience! The game felt a lot different back then when it was still unexplored and you didn't have as much information available online as you do know.
My favourite mysterious NPC is Ralo'shan the Eternal Watcher. She is the ghost eternally anchored to Staghelm Point in Silithus. Her dialogue seems to heavily imply Deathwing's destruction (in Vanilla!). Though I suspect she might actually be hinting at more unknown stuff as well. She disappeared during the end of Legion (alongside her tower collapsing), so she might finally be dead. It'd be cool if she returns unanchored.
Legit an impressive video, didnt know about several of these. And usually it videos like this just boils down to some asbringer and that random lich guy. Kudos for bringing some truly obscure shit to the table
They really are. I've only discovered most of them myself playing around on a private server where I can TP anywhere and increase my speed to move around quickly. I'd never have found them in Classic :D
Still no idea why for Classic Blizzard didn't just finish and include all of the content they'd planned originally for Vanilla in the first place. Bugs me to this day that there was so much stuff that was left out of the original game, the perfect opportunity came along for Blizzard to actually deliver the original World of Warcraft game they intended from the start and then they didn't do it. I do enjoy Classic but i feel it would have been so much more fun having all these little extra things to do and getting to see what Blizzards original vision actually looked like and doing all of these dozens of questlines that were left out originally.
It would have been interesting for sure, but I'm glad we have the opportunity to play the game ~exactly~ as it was as well. I wouldn't like "Classic+" over Classic, and you never what the Blizzard of today might do to a game. That being said if they did Classic+ well and in addition to normal Classic perhaps, I think it could be quite awesome.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 The thing is though, we all already could do that, but only Blizzard themselves know what all these incompleted questlines and features were.
Adon was always there. We always knew there was other land beyond him and a lot of work was put in my players trying to get into it. He was a well known 'hint' toon, foreshadowing things to come. Exactly as we expected.
I put my two bits down on Earthcaller Franzahl being like a doomsayer for cataclysm. When did we get Mount Hyjal? Cata, but with fire. What if it was originally planned to be an invasion from Earth elementals instead. what if before it was under the vortex, The Earthen realm was tapped into by the roots of the Tree in Mount Hyjal.
That's a pretty damn cool theory. He does mention a minion of Therazane in the dialogue on Krixix which appears from a fissure in the earth. Therazane of course later appeared in Deepholm in Cataclysm so there are definitely some hints or whatever you want to call them.
He could be somehow related to Nagas in Azshara, as it is the only place in which you can find Nagas during the 45-55 level range, or perhaps to Nagas in Feralas. Azshara was supposed to be a leveling zone like most of them, but Blizzard scrapped it, and either moved or deleted majority of quests in Azshara. There also could've been some plans for Naga at the coastline of Tanaris, but they probably just decided against it for some reason. Maybe because Tanaris is 40-50 zone like Feralas, which also features Naga.
The npc meridith the mermaiden is part of scarab lord quest chain. She will give you a buff you can swim faster to an Island that nobody can reach with that buff or if you arent on scarab lord quest.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it. The demon hunter in Azshara? I don't think I know about that one. Is it in Classic? I would definitely consider making a part two if I have enough mysterious NPCs :D
iirc on Alcaz island is a doppelganger of missing Varian Vrynn(basically fake varian). it was confirmed in some non-game media (comics probably, but not sure)
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Yes, she was originally going to be the one who teaches Tauren the plainsrunning ability, but since they removed that ability before launch and just gave taurens kodo mounts instead she didn't have any purpose anymore and yet was still left in the game for whatever reason.
What about the friendly human in Un'Goro who does laps near the southern rim? His dialogue is something ridiculously optimistic given where he's standing.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 Unfortunately no. I'm not sure if he's an alliance quest giver/part of a chain or not, but I've scanned all the NPCs on WoWhead that are neutral and friendly to the Horde and couldn't find him there. I remember he had some dialogue about how great a day it was, and how people need to look on the bright side- Basically Blizzard caricaturing someone who's overly optimistic in a terribly dangerous place.
@@FlaxeMusic He's part of the hunter rhok'delar quest line. The reason he's so optimistic is because he is a demon trying to act somewhat normal. A few others like this are scattered around, like the troll in Ungoro
@@FlaxeMusic Oh well, that's a shame. The dialogue sounds hilarious hehe. You're not thinking about Simone the Inconspicuous, are you? I think that's who the comment below (Austin) is referring to, but that's a troll female :D
That's one of the dangers, yeah. I guess it's hard to keep old content relevant when you add new stuff. I don't think it's that bad in Vanilla, though, compared to what I've heard about retail. In Classic, you will almost always have a reason to run the first raids such as MC and Ony even when BWL, AQ and Naxx have been released. There's much more content than raids I realize, so it's just one aspect of the game.
@@moegdalswowvideos6800 That's true. The "expansions" are doing most of the harm. Resetting progress and gear. Making old content pointless and eventually removing it. How is that an expansion? Compare this to how other games are handling it successfully like GW2 and EOS. It would be awesome if you considered making a video about it. Great video btw.
@@wartem It's tricky, for sure. I'm not familiar at all with other MMO's ways of doing things, so I would have to do some extensive research on that, but it's definitely a cool idea. Happy you enjoyed the video! :)
