Classical Composer Reacts to Lateralus (Tool) - The Daily Doug (Episode 48) 

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yeah, he nailed that one too.

@@DusteyeMC dude the exact moment i read this comment he said this in video. mind blown

Listen Soen's Cognitive

Come on guys...everyone knows Tool were influenced by Pink Floyd...

Because it's not credible.

Knox Hill the rapper got it aswell. He got mindblown 😂

@@DrMcKay66hell nah i've watched many of The Knox's reactions and they're just fake imo, he just googled it before

@@Fmb-sp4fb Im guessing that no one cares anyway though.

Not really, easily googled.

Funny stuff. Given Maynard’s history, it probably is a slight tease, but he also infuses many meanings into his lyrics. Overthinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. He’s talking about intuition and the importance of trusting your gut so that you can feel the universe and seize the opportunities that open up to people who can intuitively sense them.

I read somewhere in an earlier comment elsewhere that you can also interpret this overthinking-overanalyzing too literally or too negatively. The comment said that the other part of the text that mentions separating body from the soul is taken together with that overthinking-overanalyzing part. So with that, I understand that the lyrics would be about being holistic and try to find all the angles without simplifying. Basically, to embrace complexity and push yourself to grow as a human being which, for me, is part of the main message of the song.

Beautifully put

i love that this is a thing ... can you picture snoop doggs fans having this discussion ... or even a vacuous teen salivatory trender stampede pausing mid shopping frenzy to analyse the time sig and instagramming the O...MG ( because just OMG is so last week ) ... endless conveyor belts of pretty but empty young things toppling into the maw of consumer death when they have spent their money and eaten their inheritance only to be told that plastic isnt cool now and theirs will be the final generation to have a lasting effect as the new kids on the block are all 'leave no tracer's and one kid at the back ... with the plastic lunch box with spam on white is quietly tapping his feet to the walkman rendition of classical music from the olden days of 2002 before we had children and sprots personalities running the country

@@EvilSean62 that's the most pretentious way I've ever seen someone else try to call other people pretentious.

he obviously researched it before. wish he didnt pretend like he didnt

@@evrE1aftermestolemyname if he’s a composer he would know the sequences and patterns which are taking place within the tempo. Combined that with basic knowledge of the Fibonacci code and it wouldn’t be hard for him to notice. Most composers can hear things within songs that we can’t.

@@ViolentGenius LOL. Nobody would make that connection just because they know the Fibonacci sequence. Not on the first listen just like that especially. I'm sure this guy is a great composer and all that but if anyone actually believes he didn't look into beforehand, they're just fooling themselves. It's not a big deal either so no reason to defend the guy, but like someone else said it would be cooler if he'd admit it rather than pretend he just happened to make that connection the first time ever hearing the song, lol. I like your username though.

@@TheBeanis8 I'm not defending him. I'm just not assuming I know what he did beforehand..

@@ViolentGenius this isn't a direct comparison but it's sort of like the videos made today that are blatantly obviously staged even though they try to pretend that they aren't. With those, you don't know the 'beforehand' either and are still technically making an assumption, as obvious as it is. This is similar.. I wouldn't call these reaction videos "staged" but I would say that there are lots and lots of them that the listener has in fact listened to the song beforehand and yet presents the video as though they hadn't. Ultimately it's not that big of a deal but it is a little deceptive. If I'm wrong about this guy I would gladly eat my crow but I would say with 99% confidence that he didn't just make the Fibonacci connection from his first listen ever, regardless of him being a composer. Am I saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? No. But it's pretty damn unlikely. Especially for a person who just also so happens to be doing a reaction video on RU-vid. Maybe there's a few people in the world who could hear the song one time and make that connection but to also have it coincidentally be a person doing a reaction video on RU-vid, well to me that's just more than obvious that he did a little research beforehand. Anyway, have a good day.

Hope we get to see more live videos from Tool in the future. Maybe we would if it weren't for covid. Maybe we would have a world tour too for Fear Inoculum.

@@thewildhealer541 after catching covid twice on tour i think maynard is staying home for a while

I'll agree with the Pneuma suggestion. May I add "Invincible" as well? Both epic in their own ways.

@@viking_nor twice? Yikes! Covid getting to Maynard made this pandemic shit personal. How silly is that... but Maynards voice is a national treasure.

If I see one more Vic Firth Pneuma Live reaction...

Yeah, the lyrics are wrote in that Fibonacci sequence. I had to look it up because I was never a good math student in school... I was a stoner that rocked out to Tool!

@@nathanmckay2998 you are good at math if you rocked to Tool.

Your wife is a keeper.

@@flyingardilla143 Exactly

@@nathanmckay2998 Is English your first language? "written" "have never been" "maths"

Sounds like we're about the same age. I had this CD in my car for a year straight. It changed my life.

there is also a hint of evolution beyond the mere physical presence of oneself reach up and out go beyond one's own boundaries

WOW!

Maybe...

Geez

Was going to point out this exact thing. Throughout the song most every major change happens around golden ratio, fibonochi, and primes. Not just the lyrics but also beats measures meters are mathematically immaculate. The white black red yellow also refers to the philosophers stone.... this song should be taught in schools.

My dude you are over thinking and over analyzing. Watch our or your body will separate from your mind!

Yep! Syllables go-13. The pre- Chorus is 13. "As below So above and beyond I imagine" Lateralus is 'Lateral Thinking." The time signatures he mentioned 987, is a number in the sequence. His vocals starts at 1minute &.37 seconds = 1.618 minutes (Golden Ratio.) .

Always thought of them as a metal Floyd.

I 100% agree.

Tool is what happens when you compress those 3 into one infinitely dense point.

true

I, for one, dislike Tool being compared to any of those bands. To me those bands have never sounded like Tool and vis versa. Tool are their own thing and they've earned that title.

Yeah. I like to try to find someone who’s NEVER heard of Tool. Most have heard them so they aren’t actually virgins. Most have heard a song or two before.

I do like to watch these. They bring a whole new experience to this experienced TooL listener.

I like the name bro. Yours and Tool of course

@@ericwalters9878 I'm always amazed how that is still a reality

When talking about Tool the word "initiation" is the right one. They're not a band, they're religion.

It's called google....he be reading a crib sheet

@@freakbythecat no, I think it is music classical education. A trained classical musician understands and counts the numbers of rhythms, and of notes, very easily, it is done even since the first month's of education. This stuff, is not new, even ancients used number patterns and ratios in music, paintings and architecture. It is just rebrought in modern pop culture.

@@innosanto never said he didn't know musical theory did I. So how you getting some one cheating to some one not knowing anything. You know to get the music theory you practice and learn, just like research on songs so you understand. That's how smart people do things, learn. So to sum it up. I'm saying the dude has listened to the song and it's not his first listen

@@freakbythecat Plus he's got a Phd in this field you know.

@@tbeng12 PhD don't mean you don't write shit down and practice something before you go to the public with it. PhD probably means your smart enough to do that since you have a PhD and don't do shit all willy nilly

Nice🤘💯

Dude. Props lol

I was reading this comment right as he said that 😂

Excellent n

Yeah man the fettuccine sequence is what really sells this song

More like “Join us as we go down the rabbit hole” :)

Absolutely correct my friend

Absolutely

Beautifully said my friend. I feel the same way. ❤

shivers

Don't forget drugs and sexual abuse

@@myNamesTakin He's making fun of drugs

This song is definitely an example of that for sure! I always come back to this song if I feel like shit. That album is aligned with my soul... or my soul immediately aligned with it - so. Damn. Good.

Thanks. I ‘tune up’ before listening...so that I have a foundation to start verbally recognizing the chords and notes. I don’t have perfect pitch. We practice doing listening like this often in music school.

My words exactly! And this analysis of the song, got me subbed to this channel. This very different approach to these reaction videos and this also re-freshes this "reaction genre". I just hope that when @Doug Helvering stomples upon Nightiwish, I wish that he would tackle "The Greatest Show on Earth" -studio version. TGSoE deserves Dougs input.

To be fair. If it's Tool, D minor is a pretty safe assumption.

Exactly how I feel. When I first heard TooL back in *coughs* it was beautiful, chaotic noise that I was looking forward to dissecting. Haven't stopped since. 💕 Love you all.💕

@@JanneTarhanen Doug is now in the Nightwish rabbit hole. He has done Ghost Love Score and The Greatest Show On Earth. He went with the official live of both.

Wow…. I’ve never heard someone explain it like that 🤯. I learn new stuff about this band every day…

nobody in the band cares about grammys. you shouldn't either.

@@furthurondown I don't. It's a statement on how much of a joke the grammys are.

Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. Jimi Hendryx never did.

Grammy's and other awards are complete bullshit and only ever account for how many units they've sold.

​@@tonylane8873 they didn't have the Grammys in the 60s😂

you forgot Wizard Octopus

@@Verifraudreports 👾

He has a doctorate in percussion and a masters in ancient mathematics, if I'm not mistaken...

Prog musicians ... gotta LOVE 'em ...

You should hear the rest of their catalogue

Welcome to TOOL

When you're tired from a long day or down for whatever reason, listen to this band.

The whole album is put together in Fibonnacci order as well. So listen to it in that order and it all blends together

Sorry I’m late sir!

Checking in!

Bigger every day!😉

Sir. Yes sir!

reporting for duty

It always cracks me up when people say oh it fits so perfectly and you're like yeah no shit because the music was already finished so naturally he's going to be singing in the gaps 😂

Maynard takes the music and tries not to ruin the masterpiece as created and in the process elevates it to perfection. No other band sound like this. Absolutely mesmerising.

Me? The Chosen One? They chose me?

@@dragonthesharkyt and I didn’t even graduate from fuckin high school

Did aliens lure you with orange slices too?

@@machinist1337 Yeah, but I'm still waiting for the buffet to be served, dont know what else might me on the menu

Love his reactions. Watching composers try to dissect Tool is so satisfying for me. It’s like a drug for me.

Watching his reactions for the last couple hours led me here lol

is this why i got recommend this channel?

Definitely

The only other reactor I’ve seen hear and spot the Fibonacci sequence first go.

Thanks very much. My brother has been on me for years to dive into Tool. No stopping now!

Then Fear Inoculum came out and their tour was interrupted by the Pandemic. Quite a coincidence or they release their music right when the world would need it most.

All of their shows are amazing but IMO the Lateralus tour was the most memorable. I was so thankful they came to Philly that year.

Thanks. Folks like me train to listen to music like this...takes years of practice. The 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 thing was a lucky guess. The macro phrase has 24 beats. 9+8+7 is a neat way to have three large measures. I’ve thought about that before in my own music and happened to recognize the pattern.

...after "Reaching out to embrace the random , reaching out to embrace whatever may come"

Then Maynard tells Joe that it wasn't intentional. Maynard trolling Joe with a little smirk.

It’s a music school thing. My masters and doctorate are both in composition, and the academic side of that is in analysis and history of music theory. As a musicianship teacher, I’ve taught those rhythms, and it just popped out at me when I heard it in the rhythmic poetry. Plus, I’ve heard Pneuma many times and was anticipating rhythmic complexity in this track.

@@Doug.Helvering FYI these guys are in a league of their own 🤘 Spiral out keep it going 🔥

David Heretic figured it out too, and he’s obsessed with counting and time signatures

The fact that you think he picked up on that without any prior knowledge is super impressive. Especially considering you can witness evidence that he's already heard this song. Super naive.

More like super unbelievable

@@Jalynfein You may be right or wrong. But another commenter said his pianist wife picked up on it on her first hearing. And he explains why he is familiar with it - it's used in classical music composition. So maybe he is fibbing about the Fibonacci, but it's worth remembering that just because someone can do something that you can't, doesn't mean it can't be done. Rick Beato can pick up on songs on first hearing, because his ear is trained and he is familiar with certain patterns that frequently show up in pop songs. Key of Geebs, also a composer, picks up on all sorts of different aspects of songs that many of us probably missed.

@@Bramble451 Key of Geebs also admitted to looking ahead at songs, so it's possible he knew about the Fibonacci sequence ahead of time. I'm skeptical as well that someone, even a musician would just pick up on that so clearly and early in the song on the first play. I also don't believe that the Fibonacci sequence is super common in music, or at least not commonly discussed. My wife is a pianist and has studied music and theory, she has a degree and has been playing for over 20 years and teaches lessons. I'm curious if she's aware of it, I'll ask her tonight. I'm not saying someone would never pick up on this, but in the day of RU-vid fame, some people will say or do almost anything to get recognition and subscribers.

Well considering his playing resolves into rhythm with the band more than once, he’s most definitely playing a rhythm.

@@pro-v7500 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the motion his body is making is what isn’t in time with anything

@@bradysimpson mind blown. Thanks for clarification.

Justin, at least at the show I was at, was hilarious live. He looked like he was having the time of his life and seemed to be having an ongoing dialogue and running joke with the first three rows of the crowd in front of him throughout the show.

Thanks for reminding me about this. I've only seen Tool live once [2019], and noticed the same thing. As a drummer myself, I always try to focus on whatever polyrhythmic magic is happening, regardless of who I'm listening to. After hearing a song two or three times, I've usually got the pattern recognized, and move according to that groove. But watching Justin live really messed with my head. I spent an entire song just focusing on what he and Danny were playing and could NOT sync that to his body movements. It was frustratingly fascinating. I ultimately came to the same conclusion you mentioned, and just stopped TRYING to figure out what his body was moving to. My theory is, that's some deep "third eye" sh!T, manifesting physically, and unconsiously to Justin. But it's COOL to watch!!

Just a little playing pretend....

Wait, is he doing Fibonacci stuff? Yeah, he just picked that up this moment. Still, good analysis.

Exactly what I was thinking.

yup, OH MY GOSH THE LYRICS IS FLIBBINANTCHI, 9,8,7 over 12 rhythm comes in... no comment. Yeah normie youtuber watched other vids on the song from other derpies before his "reaction" then totally missed the actual sequence in the song.

100%

Yes you did😂😂🥳

BOOOOOO !!! 😜

Tool time all the time.

It’s very satisfying to hear those who know something about music _really_ listen and understand what we all have known on a subconscious level.

UUUUNLIIIIMIIIITEEEEEED POOOOWAAAAAAAAAH !!!

Whenever I’m at Olive Garden I always say “ unlimited breadsticks” like Palpatine lol

Just another name for the Fibonacci Sequence.

@Art Antipop which part?

@Art Antipop I want to know more about Tool and their secrets from a super fan.

Also check out Key of Geebs