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Classical Composer Reacts to On the Silent Wings of Freedom (Yes) | The Daily Doug (Episode 190) 

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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to On the Silent Wings of Freedom by Yes. This song is the last track on their Tormato album, released in 1978. After hearing some of their more epic songs, this one was a bit underwhelming. But, I still enjoyed it quite a bit!
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@mhlevy
@mhlevy 3 года назад
Another really fantastic song from that album is "Onward." Unlike most Yes songs, it's short, and was written by Chris Squire. The recording of this song was the opening song on the first Yes tour after Chris had died, with a screen showing images of Chris over the years, and a spotlight on a lonely Rickenbacker bass on a stand. It was really heartbreaking, but a wonderful tribute.
@JohnLRice
@JohnLRice 3 года назад
Onward is my favorite on the album, and the only song on the album I really love and come back to listen to occasionally.
@rsm3t
@rsm3t 3 года назад
I love that song!
@randyhammill9021
@randyhammill9021 3 года назад
Great song that my wife and I used for our first dance at our wedding. The album was out of print at the time, but the DJ insisted on finding their own copy.
@jameswattles7341
@jameswattles7341 3 года назад
Many good songs but Onward wow just special
@lon5541
@lon5541 2 года назад
A truly beautiful song, my wife and I picked this as our first song to dance to on our wedding day. Still together 27 years later!
@kintronico
@kintronico 3 года назад
You need to listen to " Fish out of Water" the only Chris Squire solo album.
@soggytom
@soggytom 3 года назад
My God, yes! 'Safe' should be one of your Friday long-format listens. You think Squire's bass work here is amazing? Try 'Safe'!
@rogerhennie8939
@rogerhennie8939 3 года назад
Lucky Seven!!
@davep8221
@davep8221 3 года назад
Almost not entirely off topic, but only recently I heard of something he did with Steve Hackett called Squacket. Spelling not guaranteed.
@markearll3940
@markearll3940 3 года назад
@@davep8221 Squackett, two t's! Not a bad album
@markearll3940
@markearll3940 3 года назад
In a similar vein the band "GTR" which was a Howe/Hackett collaboration..
@doughorton3635
@doughorton3635 3 года назад
For another amazing Yes/Chris Squire bass song, check out "Heart of the Sunrise" on Fragile. Highly recommended.
@nbt3663
@nbt3663 3 года назад
Such a great song and adventure that is!
@johnsatella1286
@johnsatella1286 3 года назад
Better yet....check out the bass on tempus fugit from the drama album
@k1llerrabit
@k1llerrabit 3 года назад
Agreed Heart of the Sunrise is an exceptional and special piece
@yezman68
@yezman68 3 года назад
On some Yes tours the opening part of this tune was part of the Chris Squire/Alan White bass/drum solo. Fantastic stuff. Check out the DVD 'Yes Live at Montreux from 2003.
@sandrocastanero3759
@sandrocastanero3759 3 года назад
@@johnsatella1286 in tempus fugit its more impressive, but in Heart Of The Sunrise It marks the Melody allí the time, most impressive
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691 3 года назад
Just to clarify on the album title... "The original album title was to be Yes Tor, referring to a geological formation in southern England. The photographs taken by Hipgnosis for the album cover were seen as so unimpressive that Rick Wakeman, in frustration, threw a tomato at the pictures. The cover and title were adjusted accordingly." Hilarious! 👍
@soggytom
@soggytom 3 года назад
That explains the topographic (get it?) maps on the inner sleeve!
@paulehney4581
@paulehney4581 3 года назад
The Yes Tor was noted on those maps on the sleeve.
@lesliemiller9634
@lesliemiller9634 3 года назад
LOL !!!!!
@lisagulick4144
@lisagulick4144 3 года назад
@@paulehney4581 "On a clear day, from the top, you can see faraway places with strange-sounding names."
@simonal1989
@simonal1989 3 года назад
Here's the kicker though... It wasn't Rick!
@jimbarlow9541
@jimbarlow9541 3 года назад
I would strongly recommend Turn of the Century from Going for the One. Lyrically and musically the most beautiful song they ever composed imo.
@benmolnar
@benmolnar 2 года назад
A Fantastic Song!!!
@Humb7757
@Humb7757 2 года назад
With Going for the One, which was a return from Rick wake man to the band since Tales…. They had simply inspiring reunion that gave them the Magic of producing one of the most emotional album They made it perfectly! They achieved’The One!’
@mikik3827
@mikik3827 2 года назад
I can't agree more. Turn of Century was with my wife and me when we kissed for the first time 43 years ago. The best song Yes ever produced!
@nickavenoso7851
@nickavenoso7851 2 года назад
Turn of the Century and Onward are two of the most beautiful Yes songs I’ve heard. Love both of them!
@marinhrabric6162
@marinhrabric6162 2 года назад
Every other song on that album is better
@williamsporing1500
@williamsporing1500 2 года назад
Chris had all kinds of stuff on his bass….envelope, chorus and who knows what else. He was brilliant……
@KhordLizardMage
@KhordLizardMage 3 года назад
Siberian Khatru should be done soon. It is an older song, but it is one of my favorites. The bass and keys REALLY drive that one.
@malawigw
@malawigw 3 года назад
live from yessongs 1975, perfection
@frankfusco3647
@frankfusco3647 3 года назад
I second this... I've been waiting for Doug to do SK. He always notices Squire's bass lines... and that's an awesome one, and also one of my faves.
@musicminute2004
@musicminute2004 Год назад
He alredy did
@cobbycaputo3332
@cobbycaputo3332 3 года назад
Honestly the intro is the best part of this song. And I say that as a lifelong Yes fan. Seeing them on the tour for this album was my first ever concert.
@ezioauditore3128
@ezioauditore3128 2 года назад
Saw them at Wembley, London in October 1978 and it's still the best gig I've witnessed. The audio is on YT and the quality is excellent. The whole concert (this song was in the set list) showcases a band at the height of their live powers. Set aside a couple of hours and listen to it.
@douglasanderson8636
@douglasanderson8636 Год назад
legendary gig
@mrsouthjersey4956
@mrsouthjersey4956 2 года назад
I wasn't crazy about this album when it first came out. But it has grown on me since it's release way back in my youth. Starting with the, "Tormato" tour. The first for Yes doing their, "In the Round" tours that would be their "forte" in the upcoming years. Simply a brilliant tour in my opinion, they sounded soooo darn good live during it.
@darrenjones5885
@darrenjones5885 3 года назад
I’ve not listened to Tormato in decades. Madrigal is the only track I could recall from the album, with Rick Wakeman playing harpsichord. It was being heard playing harpsichord while he was a student at the Royal College Of Music that was to lead to him having lunch with the Queen Mother. If you search for Rick Wakeman buys a horse from the Queen Mother you can hear him tell the story.
@newpinglegend9304
@newpinglegend9304 3 года назад
Good one. Pretty nice classical guitar on that too.
@jillespina
@jillespina 2 года назад
Weirdly, after 30 years I can only appreciate this song/piece right now. And yes, I do like the ending now. It's a great sudden stop.
@planktonrecords
@planktonrecords 3 года назад
Would love to see you reaction to ‘Shadow of the Heirophant’ by Steve Hackett (guitarist in Genesis 1971-77) from his first solo album ‘Voyage of the Acolyte’ which was released in 1975 while he was still in Genesis
@copernichrisrush5082
@copernichrisrush5082 3 года назад
One of my favorite YES songs and album. The whole album is fantastic! Please do more...
@everlastingarms3065
@everlastingarms3065 3 года назад
The one off Tormato to do is "Release Release". Would love to have a version where you're honing in on each instrument individually in that one. The interplay between the Squire & White in that is unbelievable. Please give it a listen! Awesome channel, just discovered it.
@toddbrady8540
@toddbrady8540 3 года назад
This album got a lot of criticism when it came out, I love it, Esp Release Release👍❤️
@Lightmane
@Lightmane 3 года назад
Doug, your constructive criticism of this is excellent. This is a very good album, but not 'quite' up to the amazing music that we were used to. I liked this album plenty when it came out, and still do, but I wasn't blown away by it like I was with their previous 6, but it's still very good. I actually enjoyed the sudden ending and I believe if you listen to it again, by yourself, you'll enjoy it too. Squire's bass is pretty unreal though, isn't it 🙂
@charlesfleeman1765
@charlesfleeman1765 3 года назад
Another song on this album, Onward, was featured in the 2015 movie "Youth" with Michael Caine, Harvey Keitel, and others.
@chac65
@chac65 3 года назад
Onward might be the only song on the album I really like.
@leonardoaronna8249
@leonardoaronna8249 3 года назад
Suggestions: Focus - Hamburger Concerto Focus - Eruption Jethro Tull - Baker St. Muse Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean Colosseum - The Valentyne Suite Thank you
@adriangoodrich4306
@adriangoodrich4306 3 года назад
I'm with you on the two Focus ones.
@scottrousseau5592
@scottrousseau5592 3 года назад
Ditto Ditto Ditto. Have met, talked and breakfasted with Sir Thijs. A really great person and a critically acclaimed classical flautist. I was amazed he used a simple closed hole flute on the Focus tours I saw. Then again he was playing organ with the other hand most of the time.
@vcp93
@vcp93 3 года назад
"Disco YES?" Well, if you can dance to this, I want to know what you're smoking. 😉✌️ "Scattered and chaotic.... agreed". This LP did not get a lot of love. As a big YES fan I love it, but I can certainly understand the many criticisms.
@scottrousseau5592
@scottrousseau5592 3 года назад
You know that hit me too, how would you dance to it? like nobody's watching for sure.
@simonal1989
@simonal1989 3 года назад
Well, it was recorded in 1978, the peak of disco right there.
@anthonytanzola7816
@anthonytanzola7816 2 года назад
Disco Yes = The Red and Blue remix dance version of Owner of a Lonely Heart and the Hello Goodbye remix of Leave It.
@alansmith8195
@alansmith8195 3 года назад
Other possibilities that may lead to shorter & less grand works for yes & genesis is that they had already done the big complicated stuff and as the 1970's were coming to an end, they moved on.... Also in Britain in 1977 , punk shook everything up. Things change
@johnnyquest6115
@johnnyquest6115 3 года назад
Exactly. I'd like to see this guy react to Blink-182.
@eduardoferreira1963
@eduardoferreira1963 3 года назад
This bass sound and his phrases are Unbelievable!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@soggytom
@soggytom 3 года назад
And as far as Jon's lyrics, he himself said that more often than not, they were words that sounded good with the music. But yeah, there was always a distinct spiritual feel. Or pretty direct, as in "Tales From Topographic Oceans" or "Magnification".
@MattMeskill
@MattMeskill 3 года назад
Exactly. I read an interview with him once which, of course I'll never be able to find, where he said he used certain words like notes or instruments - they just sounded cool. They sounded right. He didn't care about the meaning.
@danielreynolds7458
@danielreynolds7458 3 года назад
mike patton does that also
@TheRKae
@TheRKae 3 года назад
In a very excellent book called "Yes" by Dan Hedges, we learn that Steve wanted to do shorter pieces, so they could play more varied stuff in concert, and not just do a show with a half-dozen long songs. He was sort of weary of the long-form music. He was also losing interest in Jon's "airy fairy" music (as Steve called it). All of this is why Steve went off to start Asia a few years later.
@onsesejoo2605
@onsesejoo2605 3 года назад
They tried with Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes but it did not went well in UK even though they did fairly well in the US tour. It was then when Asia happened after Yes split.
@skyblueo
@skyblueo 2 года назад
This album was hated by many yes fans, myself included. We renamed it "Tormento". On the Silent Wings is the best song and it does end abruptly. Jon Anderson in interviews talks about how the band members felt alienated from each other. He went on to do the Jon & Vangelis albums, which are amazing.
@evaldoaltino29
@evaldoaltino29 3 года назад
True, this song doesn't measure up to earlier masterpieces like Roundabout, Heart of the Sunrise, The Revealing Science of God, Starship Trooper, Yours is no Disgrace and other songs from the albums from the early seventies, that are much more representative of the genius of Yes. I still recommend those songs.
@tracygosell9199
@tracygosell9199 3 года назад
Jon and Rick get together with Steve Howe and Bill Bruford in 1989 with the ABWH album.
@yesspazsmith9895
@yesspazsmith9895 3 года назад
"On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is in my all-time Yes top five, period.
@erithacusnacnud
@erithacusnacnud 3 года назад
8:07 'On the darkest night so painful - do you hunger for love midst the torture of being one?' One - meaning solo, alone, isolated, unconnected, unloved. A very heartfelt cry for emotional regeneration. Then, 'To the common goal of freedom, where we offer ourselves midst the balancing of the Sun', echoes Soon / Gates of Delirium, 'The Sun will lead us, our reason to be here'. Solar spirituality as a figure of the divine and life's meaning / guidance. Tormato - a most underrated album IMHO. Perhaps my all time third fave Yes album, which is saying something. They'd reached perfection with the GFTO album and now they were playing catharsis doing musical genius for fun, each member riding high with effortless virtuosity.
@jeffcarroll6553
@jeffcarroll6553 2 года назад
Indeed 'alienation', the pain and bane of the modern human being "the I", disconnected from yourself and others. The fall from grace as in the Garden of Eden exemplified by the consciousness soul overtaking the sentient soul in human development. From Anthroposophy "the Sun" the physical manifestation of the Christ Being offering the balance between Lucifer and Ahriman such that humanity can work from Free Will in their decision making processes. Esoteric knowledge now made open for those with ears and eyes.
@GollyGoshGollyWog
@GollyGoshGollyWog 10 месяцев назад
Don't forget Nu somme du soliel (we are of the sun) from Topographic Oceans
@hotrat2011
@hotrat2011 3 года назад
Tales from topographic oceans .... great work !!!
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691 3 года назад
My first YES album... reminds me of being at college for the first term and being asked that horrifying question by the older guys... "So, what are you into". On telling them they laughed and said "Mate, you need to listen to YES and RUSH"... and the rest is history!! 👍
@wowiezowie4235
@wowiezowie4235 3 года назад
You must do a reaction to "And You And I" from Close To The Edge. The song that changed Jon's life! It will make up for any of the shortcomings of this album!
@fcamiola
@fcamiola 3 года назад
Top 5 Yes definitely
@fbdt
@fbdt 3 года назад
Doug, react to Big Big Train. Suggest 'East Coast Racer' from live performance (or Victorian Brickwork). I guarantee that you will not regret the choice. I listen to prog over 20 years now and this band is a true gem!
@Paul71H
@Paul71H 3 года назад
Much like the entire Tormato album, "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is a flawed gem. But it's also an overlooked gem, and it's one of my favorite Yes songs -- mainly based on the bass and the vocals.
@yezman68
@yezman68 3 года назад
That bass riff is one of may favorites from Chris.
@brianbaker2759
@brianbaker2759 3 года назад
That weird synth sound is the Birotron, a now-rare Mellotron-style tape loop synth that Wakeman had a hand in developing. More info here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birotron
@polbecca
@polbecca 3 года назад
I always thought it was Rick playing a Polymoog. Either way, it's a pretty cheesy and not very pleasant sound!
@noelsamuels6727
@noelsamuels6727 3 года назад
No. The weird synth is a Polymoog.
@TomZacchini
@TomZacchini 3 года назад
Squire wanted to do a single album after all the epic songs like edge and awaken and especially after the topographic album. Tormato is a lot influenced by Squire. The lyrics.... Squire always says that he never understood the meaning of what Anderson wrote, but he said "write what you want, i sing it" 😄
@phred23
@phred23 3 года назад
I love your outrage at the way the track ended, Doug.
@christopherwright8811
@christopherwright8811 2 года назад
Don't blame him - and don't like the snyth tone at all - sounds like a 1980s kid's second-hand Casio!
@jeannettesimpson9778
@jeannettesimpson9778 3 года назад
Apparently they decided to self-produce the album and both Rick Wakeman and Chris Squire have said that "there were too many hands on the control room faders". There were also rumours that the record company refused to let the band return to the studio to finish the album off properly.
@frankmarsh1159
@frankmarsh1159 3 года назад
They started with Eddie Offord but he quit in the middle of production. He used Dolby but the guys that came in after him didn't know he was using Dolby. All the overdubs were recorded without Dolby. They mixed it without Dolby because they didn't know the initial tracks had Dolby on them. That's why Tormato sounds so thin and trebly. Also Steve Howe was experimenting with new guitars and got something awful whiny tones. Squire was using his new Mu-tron and Wakeman was using his new Polymoog and Biotron. One of the only albums in history to have a Biotron on it. Tormato is generally considered to be the worst sounding Yes album.
@jeannettesimpson9778
@jeannettesimpson9778 3 года назад
@@frankmarsh1159 Thanks for the information. 👍
@danielmoonen1891
@danielmoonen1891 3 года назад
Small correction on your comments on Wakeman and Anderson's absence from the band. Anderson rejoined in 1983 for the very successful 90125 album. Wakeman was back for 1991's "Union" , which he would rather name "Onion", and then rejoined for 1996's "Keys To Ascension". Thanks for all your wonderful work, Doug. Keep it going 🙂👍
@bobby666666
@bobby666666 3 года назад
Rick didn't like the album Union, but loved the tour for it.
@daviddelemont
@daviddelemont 3 года назад
Frank Zappa - Andy Proyecto Tulpa - Doble Terror A Las 8 Pitehui - Sol De Noche Pat Metheny - America Undefined
@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300
@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300 3 года назад
Frank Zappa, the Master, one of the pioneers of counter-culture in music and still so much more. The Adventures of Greggary Peccary, 20 minutes+, I'd like to see Doug react to that !
@derangedband
@derangedband 3 года назад
@@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300 i wonder what he would make of Peaches en Regalia. Its an awesome composition :)
@Yosef1952
@Yosef1952 3 года назад
Andy, definitely.
@commanderk3829
@commanderk3829 3 года назад
@@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300Zappa's Inca Roads as well.
@edelcorrallira
@edelcorrallira 3 года назад
Id like to see a breakdown of whatever it is that Zappa Plays Zappa did with Zombie Woof with Steve Vai. I would really love to have a better idea what on earth is going on there... If you havent, Id highly recommend listening to it, I think it is a very exquisite, tasteful and frankly masterful performance of an unsurprisingly solid composition (Zappa making a solid composition, Great Googly Moogly, still really like this song, but same applies to any mentioned already)
@tomdac
@tomdac 2 года назад
Interesting seeing someone your age hear this for the first time. I was 16 when it came out and it changed how I listened to music. The band was not happy with this album and felt it needed more work. I love it. Love ur channel. Keep up the good work.
@eurz9188
@eurz9188 3 года назад
"On the Silent Wings of Freedom", esp. if you listen to the live versions, it almost feels to me like a bass "solo" with the other instruments playing around and providing accompaniment. In terms of how Chris Squire gets his signature sound the main components seem to be (a) a "fat" attack achieved by letting the thumb nail hit the string immediately after the pick (b) A Rickenbacker's Ric-o-Sound setup with 2 outputs, and using guitar pedals&amps on one and bass pedals&amps on the other, mixing them afterwards for a wider than normal spectrum of frequencies (c) new rotosound strings, I've read that for Chris Squire often replaced his strings with new ones before a performance, instead of letting them "age" (d) the way the bass ended up after various maintenance operations, like sanding & refinishing (Rickenbacker themselves have measured these details and produced a "Chris Squire signature" edition of its Rickenbacker 4001 Bass Guitar) (e) last, but not least, being a superb player :)
@dpstrial
@dpstrial 2 года назад
I can reproduce Chris's sound exactly. He uses as much treble as bass, new round-wound strings, a pick and on this particular record a flanger and wah-wah on the treble pick up.
@DanPemberton
@DanPemberton 5 месяцев назад
They didn't know when this was recorded that it would be the last of this Era. Infighting over Drama led to Anderson and Wakeman before Drama was recorded. Great reactions!
@fogzax
@fogzax 3 года назад
That was so cool to see a Tormato reaction! I've always loved this album and that track. The bass is the star of the album like you say beautiful tone. Funny you called it Yes Disco - that probably explains why I like the sound so much as I've always liked that cheesy disco vibe and the album came out around that time. At some point you should check out Future Times / Rejoice which is another great track it's two tracks but they really belong together. The album was famous for being a really bad one for the band to record because their were creativity clashes like you say with everyone jossling for dominance which gives it that chaotic feeling.
@josephgottlieb1652
@josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад
Doug, sadly is a failed musician, failed piano teacher, so now he's trying to scrape a few bux together as a RU-vidr . . . He BARELY knows what he is talking about, and there's NO WAY this is his first listen / reaction ..
@rbitrossome
@rbitrossome Год назад
I love Alan's drumming on this song.
@adriangoodrich4306
@adriangoodrich4306 3 года назад
Doug, yet again I think you pretty well nailed this one! I reckon the majority of Yes fans would totally agree with your comments on and assessment of this piece? This yes fan sure does! I agree the synthesiser ruins this song - and indeed most of the album IMO. There was a shedload of issues with band members, and with the record label and others over this album. Indeed, even over its cover and name, courtesy of a certain Mr Wakeman's action in response to seeing the cover, leading to "Yes - Tor" (a play on Yes Tor, the second-highest point on Dartmoor in Devon, England) becoming "Yes - Tormato". I think this all shows in the music and production. A handful of reasonable songs on the album IMO - Future Times/Rejoice, Don't Kill The Whale, Onward. But My first reaction on hearing this album, all those years ago, after the first two tracks was one of bitter disappointment. That remains my reaction to this day.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus 2 года назад
That photo of the group all wearing those ridiculous looking YES jackets just carrys the vibe for me - none of them looked happy about any of this. There are a couple of decent enough songs on the album, but I just felt let down by the thing as a whole. And we all know how things went from there...
@Snulla04
@Snulla04 2 года назад
Scattered and chaotic, that´s the beauty of it. I thing Tormato is the most underrated record from Yes, because it represent completely new sound or mixtures of sounds. That said, "Close to the Edge" is my classical favourite, maybe with second half of "Tales from Topographic Ocean" without forgetting the early Yeas. Thank you Doug, I love how you tackle Yes, and I am hardly in any doubt of "Glose to the Edge" classical potentials.
@kengodwin3879
@kengodwin3879 6 месяцев назад
Great spelling.
@andrewheck6922
@andrewheck6922 Год назад
I saw that concert in Indianapolis 1978. The stage was in the middle of the arena. We were 6 rows from the stage. I have an enlarged framed picture taken at the concert including the ticket stub
@steveclark9211
@steveclark9211 3 года назад
You should really check out the song Terrapin Station by the Grateful Dead. The entire piece is about 16 1/2 minutes and it's great! It's probably the one thing the Grateful Dead did that's considered Prog.
@margarettelaizure3220
@margarettelaizure3220 Год назад
I read "the torture of being one" as a profound lonely state. Being only one, apart from others. It sounded like that to me when I first heard it when the recording was released.
@TigerMtnKing
@TigerMtnKing 2 года назад
The more you listen to this one Doug the better it gets.
@ronmueller1164
@ronmueller1164 Год назад
My favorite Yes album. Also my first concert in 1979. This album also contains sounds from one of the world's rarest keyboard instruments, the Birotron- an evolution of the Mellotron. Such a profound album. Thanks for featuring.
@sethkaicer319
@sethkaicer319 3 года назад
Doug taught the band Yes to never ever say no.
@docbobster
@docbobster 3 года назад
I wouldn't have picked this for you to do, but hearing it again, it is better than I remembered and your analysis was enlightening as always.
@wowiezowie4235
@wowiezowie4235 3 года назад
Doug, this was not the greatest time for creative output from Yes. As I recall pretty much all of the members were pretty burned out from touring and were even a bit on edge with each other, and there was disagreement on the direction of the band. I personally did not care for Rick's sound on this one which was quite a bit different from previous Lp's. The 70's were drawing to a close and change was afoot. It was time for a break and people went in different directions Thankfully this classic lineup would reconvene once again, refreshed and for a bit, provide us with more of their magic! Jon Anderson has said that "And You And I" from Close To The Edge was the song that changed his life. It certainly changed mine and I would love to hear your reaction to it. It's hands down one of their greatest tunes and at ten minutes might make for a nice weekday vid!
@Ken5244
@Ken5244 3 года назад
Thank you for being the only person here accurately describing the time and circumstances surrounding the making of this album. Most of the other comments here are complete b.s. from people who probably weren't even alive when YES made this record. People saying they broke up because of "partying" or because "New Wave was changing the music scene" or "Rick and Steve were competing to see who could play the fastest and the loudest." Such ridiculous claptrap made up out of thin air.
@anthonytanzola7816
@anthonytanzola7816 2 года назад
Trevor Horn - replaced John Anderson in 1980 on the Drama album/tour. He returned for the next album, 90215 and held the role of lead singer trough 2004. He was lead singer on 3 albums prior to Keys to Ascension which was released in 1996, eight years after Tormato.
@christopherrosing4473
@christopherrosing4473 Год назад
I remember when this album came out. I was in HS (79) and had just gotten into Yes. It was quite evident to everyone that this album was the end. I did get to see them in the round in 1979 and the show was fantastic but that era of the band was over.
@wowiezowie4235
@wowiezowie4235 3 года назад
In concert Chris and Alan would run away with this tune by themselves. Sort of each doing a solo but at the same time. So really a duet, but anyway it was an incredible show of musicianship.
@Davejkn
@Davejkn 3 года назад
the synthesiser is probably a Polymoog, one of the first polyphonic synths - it was a big deal in the late 70's to actually be able to play chords on a synth. The shorter tracks were probably more down to the influence of punk and new wave - prog rock was suddenly out of fashion and so called 'dinosaur' bands like Yes and Genesis started writing shorter more relevant material. Tormato's not one of their best albums, it felt a bit disappointing at the time. Perhaps you should check out something from Fragile ot The Yes Album instead.
@matthewweber3904
@matthewweber3904 3 года назад
Yeah, Wakeman had some kind of endorsement deal with the Polymoog. Don't know whether that's the reason it's all over this album, but the fact that all the voices use the same oscillator and filter was a drawback.
@josephgottlieb1652
@josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад
A mellotron, or maybe that MIXED with a harpsichord??
@skatter44
@skatter44 3 года назад
A couple of songs from the next album that features Trevor Horn on vocals and Geoff Downs on keyboards (The Buggles) that you may like are Machine Messiah and Tempus Fugit. Really great songs.
@deciccohernan
@deciccohernan 3 года назад
He has already done a reaction video to a live version of machine messiah (my favorite from Drama).
@urbangardener66
@urbangardener66 3 года назад
You've hit the Yes conundrum. Pretty much everything after Relayer is very uneven. So many different lineups on so many albums, there just isn't that tight focus that was to be found starting with Yes Album through Relayer. But what a run that was! It would be really awesome if you could move back to that era and react to one of the epic side long compositions on TFTO, maybe side one or side two, though they're all great. Love your reactions Doug!
@thomassharmer7127
@thomassharmer7127 2 года назад
This is the sound of super talented musicians pulling in so many different directions at once that they literally tore the band apart. There were big personality clashes going on and even bigger musical differences. Then in the middle of the recording sessions Alan White broke his ankle while roller skating. So they just called it a day and walked (or in Alan's case limped 🤗) away. The track kind of reflects that at the end. It's not their most cohesive album, with some very diverse material, but is well worth exploring.
@philipmason9537
@philipmason9537 3 года назад
The next album with Jon and Rick is KEYSTUDIO ( RU-vid) and the two main tracks from it are MINDRIVE and THAT, THAT IS ; both awesome tracks !
@billwilkinson7120
@billwilkinson7120 2 года назад
Well, unless you count Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe...
@roberttee9790
@roberttee9790 3 года назад
'Disco Yes' Those words are blasphemy! Squires bass along with Alan on drums drives this piece. Best song on the album (imo) and if 6 minutes longer could have reached epic status.
@Aquatarkus96
@Aquatarkus96 3 года назад
Hey lay off Disco. Theres plenty of catchy great disco tracks. It's not the musicians fault that the genre was commercialized to hell and back and as a result overplayed EVERYWHERE..
@roberttee9790
@roberttee9790 3 года назад
@@Aquatarkus96 I stand by my post...and I was not talking to you!
@josephgottlieb1652
@josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад
@@roberttee9790 You're right, dude!
@keithfisher7333
@keithfisher7333 2 года назад
The bass tone... Harmonized Rickenbacker Bass: First note that Chris' bass was ran in stereo. Both pickups could be sent to different effects. It's not just the Eventide H910 Harmonizer. First in the signal path is a Mutron III envelope filter pedal, probably just on the neck pickup of the Rickenbacker. Chris had a tendency to favor the tone of the neck pickup a bit as the primary body of his bass tone.... With the weak horseshoe bridge pickup just added in for clangy, trebly edge. The Eventide Harmonizer just being a pitch shifting digital delay line...In this case, it was primarily just used to create a pitch shift detuned by a couple of cents, creating a copy of the bass sound out of tune with itself for chorus like sound. It's similar to detuning oscillators on a synth in theory, and it's fatter sounding than a chorus pedal My thought is as the Eventide Harmonizer was a rackmounted, line level, pro audio device without a high impedance input, it was probably added at the mixer to get the best sounds. Whether it was added to one pickup, the other pickup or a mix of the two will remain a mystery. FYI.... You can hear the Mutron alone, without Harmonizer on Wonderus Stories, more pronounced on the live Yes Shows version.... More interesting is the use of the Harmonizer on Arriving UFO from Tormato. This uses the Harmonizer more to it's potential. The glitchy sounds following the intro bassline are the Harmonizer. It's set up as an echo of the bass line, and each echo is pitch shifting an octave up exponentially into infinity...or to the maximum frequency response of a 1975 digital delay.
@eduardoangel923
@eduardoangel923 3 года назад
Yes - Turn of the century, please!
@tracygosell9199
@tracygosell9199 3 года назад
There were Paris recording sessions in 1979 with the same line up as Tormato but that is when the band fell apart. They did not finish the album.
@jorgeramirezvelazco5820
@jorgeramirezvelazco5820 3 года назад
Many gems arise in this particularly underated album. Thruth is that they were tired and coming from.one of their (many) creative peaks with their previous album, the sublime Going for the one. Lots of things were passing inside the band and outside as well, in the musical scene. Punk was coming hard and the use of electronics was moving forward in terms of the creative and industrial sides of pop music. I love this album, because of the.marvelous and strange songs that it contained, and because of the paths it marked for the future of the band. Thank you, Dough, for your.bright and emotional impressions.about this song.
@careyvinzant
@careyvinzant 3 года назад
Also, Rick Wakeman (in his own words) "used to drink for the British Olympic team." Equally fitting description of Squire and White. Love 'em, but these guys basically partied their band out of existence around this time during the abortive Paris sessions.
@alejandramabelsanchez2819
@alejandramabelsanchez2819 Год назад
YES amazing band of the centurys.......of centurys....❤❤❤❤
@terminaltvshow
@terminaltvshow 3 года назад
Echoing others, you’ll love Fish Out of Water. Every track is wonderful. Safe, the 15 minute epic finale is the crown jewel and has some really nice orchestration. Squire’s sound at the end is unreal.
@mildredmoira
@mildredmoira 3 года назад
No one ever really grasps what Jon's on about, I think
@vinsgraphics
@vinsgraphics 3 года назад
Wakeman says in an interview that NASA could’ve saved money on space exploration by simply talking to Jon Anderson. 😂
@gokhanaya
@gokhanaya 3 года назад
It's not that hard... mainly and very briefly, it's spirituality. If you go down reading and researching you'll see his references are bright as day.. if you're not interested........
@recordmanjohn
@recordmanjohn 3 года назад
Another Rick quote paraphrased: Jon is the only person simultaneously trying to save the planet while living on another one
@jeffcarroll6553
@jeffcarroll6553 2 года назад
@@gokhanaya One needs to be well versed in Eastern and Gnostic revelations along with the Bible and the teachings of Zarathustra. Not all is revelation as some is word play, some love song lyrics, and some sound play. But according to esoteric traditions the creation of creation was through primal sounds that the languages we speak today are distant remembering. High the memory goes on past a mortal as me.
@SamRoads
@SamRoads 3 года назад
RIP Chris, keep soaring on those silent wings of freedom.
@medicineman79
@medicineman79 3 года назад
I would love to see a reaction to Gryphon, progressive 70s with a medieval touch.
@fcamiola
@fcamiola 3 года назад
Toured with Yes also!
@richmorgan1970
@richmorgan1970 3 года назад
Doug, I’ve only just discovered your very wonderful and illuminating channel and I have thoroughly enjoyed how you have reacted to and analysed some of my favourite pieces of music from my mis-spent youth. However I can’t find any King Crimson pieces in your back catalogue, which I feel is a serious omission from your prog-rock listening. I would particularly love to hear what you make of Side 2 of Lizard, their 3rd album, the suite comprising Prince Rupert Awakes/Bolero/The Battle of Glass Tears/Big Top. I know you love Jon Anderson’s voice, and he guested on this seminal work, as did such giants as Keith Tippett and Robin Miller. Just an amazing journey through a spectrum of musical genres, sown together seamlessly.
@Relayer6a
@Relayer6a 3 года назад
Chris used a combo of a pair of Ampeg bass amps (basically the standard for bass) along with an additional Marshall 100W head run through a single 412 cab. The "growl" that his tone has I believe is from the Marshall. That and of course playing a Rickenbacker with a pick.
@j.franciscorioscambre7605
@j.franciscorioscambre7605 3 года назад
Disco Yes! Hahahaha! Of course you’re right. That’s about the time punk music and disco shuffled things up. Even though Tormato has consistently been considered one of their weakest records, I’ve always found it very interesting and enjoyable. Yes is Yes. Thank you so much for including this song in your breakdown repertoire. Greetings from Mexico. I usually toast alongside with you, but with tequila :)
@randlerobbertson8792
@randlerobbertson8792 2 года назад
Yes live 78 wembley empire pool. Round stage in the middle of the venue, rotating slowly lights flashing as the tension and expectation builds, seemingly spinning up and down like a giant space ship coming down from the ceiling, years before ELO did the same. So, as the curtain drops after a close encounters intro. Yes I was there. this featured- even better watching em do it live - note perfect and Chris Squire on fire. woooooowww.
@brucereed1619
@brucereed1619 3 года назад
Yes, Rush, Dream Theater, Kansas... You're getting closer and closer to a Dixie Dregs video, aren't you, Doug? "Odyssey" is their best song off of their best album, What If. You won't be disappointed- 5 phenomenal musicians with influences from classical, jazz, rock, and even bluegrass, and Steve Morse is easily one of the top 5 guitarists to ever plug in.
@marcanglin7127
@marcanglin7127 3 года назад
"The Great Spectacular" from 'Dregs of the Earth', or even "The Bash" from 'Night of the Living Dregs' would work, as well. However, "Odyssey" in particular is a favorite of mine. I had the great pleasure of discovering The Dregs early on, and even getting to hang them every time they came to South Florida. Allen Sloan and I made a round of nightclubs in the Atlanta area hearing some of his violin students playing in bands, and I had the great joy of playing T Lavitz's baby grand and Oberheim OB-Xa at his house. Andy West was always cool, and Rod Morgenstein was so full of joy while playing. Steve was, well, a genius. Great times.
@gthobaben
@gthobaben 3 года назад
I'd settle for Ice Cakes!
@ronchiles399
@ronchiles399 3 года назад
Great line of thinking!
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691
@nigelbentonakauapoap3691 3 года назад
Yeh, that's how it ends... I guess that was it, they then split and the next time they appeared was as 'Yeggles'... in other words 'Yes' and 'Buggles' combined... basically Trevor Horn and Jeff Downes joined the band... the rest is history!
@ronchiles399
@ronchiles399 3 года назад
I really enjoyed the 90215 album and tour; with Tony Kaye (Yes original keyboardist) on keyboards. It was a bit pop and polished but I enjoyed it.
@luvyesmusici4886
@luvyesmusici4886 3 года назад
I've fallen asleep hundreds of times, with this song, at the end of the album, in bed with headphones on. I can say the same thing of Iron Maiden's Piece of Mind.
@RiquezaEmGotas
@RiquezaEmGotas 3 года назад
This song is not bad but it could be better, anyway, there are others that are way better, for example: "The Endless Dream" from "Talk" album, "Fly From Here" from the album with the same name, "Homeworld" or "New Languages" from "The Ladder" album, "I am Running" from "Big Generator" album, "To Be Over" from " Relayer" album, "In the presence of" or "Magnification" from "Magnification" album, just to name a few.
@danielmoonen1891
@danielmoonen1891 3 года назад
I would love to hear Doug review "Endless Dream". "Talk", in my opinion, is one of the strongest Yes albums. Very much overlooked.
@fogzax
@fogzax 3 года назад
Homeworld would be a great choice New Languages is also awesome
@J.-M.
@J.-M. 3 года назад
@@danielmoonen1891 I always thought Talk, including Endless Dream, was ruined by Anderson. The Trevor Rabin bits were musically brilliant, daring, modern and cutting edge, but interweaved with "airy-fairy" (as I learned in this discussion) and poppish parts by Anderson, which sounded trivial and kitschy to me.
@RiquezaEmGotas
@RiquezaEmGotas 3 года назад
@@fogzax Yes, those are my favorites too!
@RiquezaEmGotas
@RiquezaEmGotas 3 года назад
@@danielmoonen1891 Indeed, it is a strong album.
@waynecox3958
@waynecox3958 3 года назад
BTW. Jon Anderson only missed the Drama album. He was singing in Yes all through the 80’s.
@robstearns7080
@robstearns7080 2 года назад
ALSO Chris Squire has a SOLO LAbum called FISH OUT OF WATER YOU WILL LOVE IT!!!!
@MrGlenspace
@MrGlenspace 3 года назад
I remember seeing this tour in the round at Madison Square Garden.
@JJ8KK
@JJ8KK 2 года назад
What I remember reading about the break up following this album was that Steve & Chris & Allen were more interested in a harder rock direction while Jon and Rick were more interested in that "atmospherics" direction. I always enjoyed The Silent Wings Of Freedom as another Chris Squire dominated song that showed off his talents in a very satisfying way. It was the reason I bought the album, hearing it on the radio. I also liked Release, Release but found the rest of the album to be nothing to write home about. Also, I agree that Wakeman was choosing some less-than-optimal keyboard sounds at this period of YES' evolution. Nice review, Doug..
@tamaspolyak5564
@tamaspolyak5564 3 года назад
This was the period of Yes when Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman competed who could play louder and faster. And this song sounds a bit unfinshed, because it kind of was. And there were tensions in the band at that time, that's why the next album wasn't finished. Instead the band broke up for the first time.
@oS2006DE
@oS2006DE 3 года назад
Ohhh, the Polymoog. Dave Luce was the guy at moog music who made that turkey what it was sonically, and apparently Wakeman was on the same wavelength. If for reasons passing understanding.
@nbt3663
@nbt3663 3 года назад
The most awesome bass line in music. Steve Howe has to play his rear off to keep up with Chris. Amazing one of my favorite Yes songs.
@chac65
@chac65 3 года назад
Yes that IS amazing.
@BrentMB79
@BrentMB79 8 месяцев назад
Rick was heavily into the polymoog at the time which didnt cut through the mix all that well so it is really pushed forward to complete with steves guitar... it was a battle of notes
@auflauf494
@auflauf494 3 года назад
Yes "prime" time is considered from 1971 (The Yes Album) until 1977 (Going from the One). So you are correct with your opinion, that this album/song is underwhelming compared to their better songs. And it gets worse in the 80s, when they basically did simple pop songs that have nothing in common with their best work from the 70s. Some suggestions from their "prime": - Yours Is No Disgrace (1971 / 10 Min) - Starship Tropper (1971 / 10 Min) - I Have Seen All Good People (1971 / 7 Min) - America (1971 / 11 Min) - Roundabout (1971 / 9 Min) - Heart Of The Sunrise (1971 / 11 Min) - And You And I (1972 / 10 Min) - Siberian Khatru (1972 / 9 Min)
@Ken5244
@Ken5244 3 года назад
Complete nonsense. The music that YES did in the 80s wasn't "simple pop songs." Put the bong down.
@davek6949
@davek6949 3 года назад
You said it would be the last album to feature Jon Anderson until 1996 but Anderson actually rejoined the band in the early 1980s for the recording of the "90125" album.
@rsm3t
@rsm3t 3 года назад
Several have mentioned Onward and Madrigal and these are lovely tunes. I'd like to add Future Times/Rejoice to round out my choices for the best of this album.
@Yosef1952
@Yosef1952 3 года назад
Doug, I think you would really enjoy "To Be Over" off the "Relayer" album.
@mattwright8993
@mattwright8993 3 года назад
Love when you do Yes!
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 3 года назад
This album was considered a massive failure for YES at the time. This track is most definitely scattered. It sounds like they had a couple of jam ideas and stuck them together and hoped for the best. By this time, they were burnt out and it showed. Also at this time, the music scene was changing to the new wave and this album was especially weak. It did not sell well and was essentially their demise until they re-vamped years later and became more commercial with the hit "Owner of the Lonely Heart." But for many YES fans, they were never what they once were prior to this. The bass sound is an envelope filter and a flanger with reverb.
@Ken5244
@Ken5244 3 года назад
That isn't quite accurate. The scene wasn't "changing to New Wave" in 1978. Mainstream rock and progressive rock were still kings with artists like Led Zeppelin, Kansas, Styx, Rush, Journey, the Eagles, Boston, Cheap Trick, the Doobie Brothers, Queen, Genesis, Van Halen, Bad Company, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, Heart, Supertramp, et al., dominating the radio airwaves and Billboard charts and arenas and stadiums. New Wave was an outgrowth of punk, which faded out around 1979 or 1980. About the only significantly popular bands, that would come to be known as New Wave, in 1978 were The Police, The Cars and the Talking Heads. And maybe Blondie (most people considered them a punk-pop hybrid). And there's a difference between popularity and intentional commerciality. "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is one of those anomaly songs that is progressive as heck but that just also happened to be melodic and catchy enough, at the right time, to become a big hit. But it wasn't any more popular than "Roundabout" was, and I never hear people saying "Roundabout" is "commercial." Same with "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Carry On Wayward Son" -- VERY progressive songs that also had coincidental crossover appeal. That doesn't make them "commercial" in a cynical or calculated or pejorative way (if that's what you were implying).
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 2 года назад
@@Ken5244 Umm, Carry On Wayward Son was 1976. And the year Tomato came out was the same year as the debut of Elvis Costello, The Cars, Devo, Blondie, Talking Heads and the Police. I'd call that the "new wave."
@Ken5244
@Ken5244 2 года назад
@@NelsonMontana1234 Yes, "Carry On Wayward Son" came out in 1976. So? I mentioned it my second paragraph as an example of a prog rock song that wasn't intentionally commercial but that became a pop hit anyway (in response to your insinuation that "Owner of a Lonely Heart" was intentionally commercial). The year that it came out is irrelevant. Your mention of the debuts of The Cars, Blondie, Talking Heads and The Police is a repeat of what I already said -- although you are incorrect re the timeline. You said that 1978 ("the year Tormato came out") saw the debuts of The Talking Heads and Blondie and Elvis Costello. That is incorrect. Blondie's debut album was released in 1976, and their second album came out in 1977. So they "debuted" two years before 1978, and they didn't become known to the masses until 1978's Parallel Lines album. The Talking Heads' first album came out in 1977, not 1978 (and it was largely ignored). Elvis Costello's first album (My Aim is True) also came out in 1977, not 1978. As for Devo, they didn't have a hit until 1980 with the Freedom of Choice album. The point I made -- and that I stand by -- is that your assertion that in 1978 "the music scene was changing to the new wave" is false. As I already stated, the only significantly popular bands in 1978, that would subsequently come to be known as New Wave, were the ones I listed. But only The Cars, Talking Heads, The Police and Blondie had hits on mainstream pop or AOR radio by 1978, and they weren't "changing the music scene." They were four groups, and the music scene was still completely dominated by the litany of artists I listed in my first posting above. You're exaggerating the importance of those four, and in no way did they have anything to do with the lesser success of YES's Tormato album. In 1978, no one was saying, "prog and hard rock are dead -- the New Wave is taking over."
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 2 года назад
@@Ken5244 Well, I wouldn't put Owner of the Lonely Heart in the same league as "Wayward Son" but, whatever. And Cheap Trick is more New Wave than hard rock or prog. You're also arguing against your own point by mentioning how some of those new wave albums actually came out a year earlier. The scene was changing! And I never said those bands completely dominated. Sure, there were still rock bands but which way did the industry go? Toward more prog or more new wave?
@Ken5244
@Ken5244 2 года назад
@@NelsonMontana1234 Cheap Trick isn't even remotely New Wave. They were/are a hard rock band influenced by Zeppelin and Hendrix and Cream and Aerosmith and The Beatles. No offense, but you sound/act like a guy in his 20s or 30s inaccurately describing a music scene that happened before he was born. I was there and lived it. The music scene wasn't changing to New Wave in any significant way in 1978, as only four of those previously mentioned bands had even had any hits, and except for The Cars, none had more than 1 hit by 1978. There was no stylistic change going on in 1978 that affected YES or any other rock bands in any way. You're simply a couple years too early in your analysis, that's all.
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 3 года назад
I could have used this in the early 70's. Seems we went our diff ways when this came out.
@roesler
@roesler 3 года назад
I don't get why this track was recommended. Future Times/Rejoice is the best track in Tormato, by far.
@dr.thomasfastiggi232
@dr.thomasfastiggi232 3 года назад
On the Silent Wings of Freedom features Squire playing with a Mu-Tron Envelope Shaper effect.
@rogerclark8776
@rogerclark8776 3 года назад
Chris used a Qtron pedal on all of this album. Its basically an envelope filter.. or more basically,, like an automated wah pedal that is triggered by the intensity of the notes The keyboard sound is from a keyboard called a Birotron. It was a homemade synthesiser that was given to Wakemen to try. It ended up on this album ! Eventually Wakeman hated the sound so much that he took the Birotrons he owned out to a field and burnt them.....so the story goes
@noelsamuels6727
@noelsamuels6727 3 года назад
Not true at all. It's the Polymoog you're hearing. The Birotron is almost inaudible. Also Rick burned two Mellotrons that were no longer working. He spent half a million dollars trying to bring the Birotron to market. He would never burn them and wishes he still had one now.
@davidskelhorn9711
@davidskelhorn9711 Год назад
A "TOR" is the local word for Hilltop in Devon, SW England. which is highest point in the area. Very "rustic" beauty point.
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