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Classical Composer Reacts to Tarkus (Emerson, Lake, and Palmer) | The Daily Doug (Episode 147) 

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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to Tarkus by Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. We have the benefit of a recording synced with the music score! What a monumental composition! This is a long episode...come along for the journey!
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@thenecromancer5601
@thenecromancer5601 2 года назад
It’s scandalous that ELP have never been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Their music and musicianship and the fact that they were not afraid to push the boundaries should never be forgotten.
@zerep11
@zerep11 2 года назад
Although I agree with you, TRRHOF is a TOTAL, USELESS JOKE ... AT BEST.
@charlesgallagher1376
@charlesgallagher1376 2 года назад
Dolly Parton just got into the R&R Hall of Fame. It’s obviously not about the music.
@jesusorbea2024
@jesusorbea2024 2 года назад
Rrhf is irrelevant
@lamecasuelas2
@lamecasuelas2 2 года назад
It's scandalous that anyone cares about what the RARHOF thinks
@charlesgallagher1376
@charlesgallagher1376 2 года назад
@@lamecasuelas2 it was a good idea but poorly executed. Dolly Parton?
@tstop8
@tstop8 2 года назад
I so miss my dear friend Keith. Having tech'd for him for 7 years, I can tell you that one of the high points of my life was sitting next to Keith as he rehearsed Tarkus for the Manticore tour in 2010. He played the whole thing, there, in front of me. it was...
@mprenn1547
@mprenn1547 Год назад
dude,,,,,
@tstop8
@tstop8 Год назад
@@mprenn1547 Ikr, DUDE!
@rickweissinger5341
@rickweissinger5341 Год назад
I've been listing to TARKUS for over FIFTY YEARS and it STILL moves me emotionally to a high degree. There's nothing like it and there will NEVER be ANYTHING like it EVER again. Anyone who considers themselves a real music fan should listen to this. It's absolutely mind-blowing! The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should close down - they'll induct anyone with a hit single or two (like AERODOG) but bands like ELP and the Moody Blues get denied. Screw them!
@dirtyharry7616
@dirtyharry7616 Год назад
right on bro
@jc3745
@jc3745 Год назад
Add to pile of excrement the HOF is, they would never consider the predecessors like King Crimson no matter how many covers of 20th Century Schizoid Man have been made by inductees.
@tratko3150
@tratko3150 Год назад
I saw them at the Arie Crown Theater in Chicago in 1972...they played Tarkus...I still remember it as I was 16 years old...
@jeffallan1003
@jeffallan1003 Год назад
Saw them 4 times in 70s. Best concert still.
@peterszilagyi5671
@peterszilagyi5671 Год назад
Tarkus contains almost all the essence of progressive music. It can't be beat! It will be fresh and enjoyable forever.
@progreact
@progreact 2 года назад
I think that Tarkus is the quintessence of progressive rock. it is everything one wants from this musical genre.
@ichobean
@ichobean 2 года назад
Exactly
@alanfine9825
@alanfine9825 2 года назад
@@ichobean Also agree...was in th Genesis/Yes/TULL/GG amongst others back then...Will not find a better side on any album anywhere speaking to progressive fans....Suppers Ready is probably a tie.....but can't go wrong with either....
@porcupine4ever
@porcupine4ever 2 года назад
It is.
@markohehe6620
@markohehe6620 2 года назад
@@alanfine9825 Oh stop please with the Genesis / Yes trash. So overrated bands. There were many many many better bands than those 2 trashes that every "prog fan" mentions.
@alanfine9825
@alanfine9825 2 года назад
@@markohehe6620 I mentioned Tull, Gentle Giant, and agreed that ELP was a favorite as well. Your comment about Yes & Genesis are foolish. Who do u think was better, in Your Humble Opinion?
@martinabernathy205
@martinabernathy205 3 года назад
Karn Evil 9, All three impressions. It's another long one that is an incredible classic masterpiece by ELP.
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U 3 года назад
That entire album is a single work. While it starts with a militaristic hymn, everything else refers to Ginastera's Toccata, the second track.
@dago87able
@dago87able 3 года назад
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U Although it might sound militaristic to you, it’s actually a Christian hymn, based on a poem by William Blake. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#Use_as_a_hymn
@klausludwig9585
@klausludwig9585 3 года назад
@@dago87able Karn Evil 9 (Carneval 9 😉) world be Great.
@dago87able
@dago87able 3 года назад
@@klausludwig9585 It would. I prefer Pictures at an Exhibition though.
@klausludwig9585
@klausludwig9585 3 года назад
@@dago87able Yep... „Pictures...“ was the first album from ELP I heard.... about 50 years ago ..😉
@1dayton1
@1dayton1 3 года назад
Fifty years ago, on this day, Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "Tarkus" was released. An Emerson Lake & Palmer Appreciation Group member, Robin Binford reminded us of Keith's account of the birth of "Tarkus" in his autobiography, The Pictures of an Exhibitionist. It's too good not to share....: CREATING TARKUS ACCORDING TO KEITH EMERSON from Pictures of an Exhibitionist Carl and I would often test each other's sightreading abilities writing out complicated rhythms in odd time signatures. One day, he came into my dressing room and drummed out a pattern on his practice pad. 'What time signature's this then?' 'It's either 10/8 or 5/4,' I said, 'but Frank Zappa would refer to them all as one.' By coincidence, Carl's drum pattern happened to fit a left-hand ostinato figure I was working on, and I made a note to pursue that direction as soon as the tour was over. About a month later, the idea had some semblance of form, albeit a strange one, and I rang Greg up. 'Can you come over? There's something I want to play you on the piano. I'm rather excited about it. It doesn't appear to have either a time or key signature.' An hour later, the doorbell rang, and I led Greg into my music room. 'I've been working on this piece since Carl played me a rather obscure drum pattern. I've got this image of us creating a vast 'sheet of sound' that defies conventional structures. There doesn't appear to be one set time signature or a key signature, but the total effect played by the three of us could be very prolific.' I suddenly realised that my words were not having the slightest effect; I might just as well have tried explaining the concept of 'Origami Wall Plugging' to a fish. I turned awkwardly and began hammering away at the piano. When I'd finished, I turned back to see Greg still staring blankly at me. 'Well?' I asked. 'I think if you want to play that kind of music, you should play it on your solo album.' I was ... well, I wasn't yet ready to do a solo album, but now that he mentioned it ... 'But I want us to play it. I know it sounds complicated, but it'll have a tremendous effect with all three of us playing it together,' I pleaded. 'I'm really not interested in that sort of thing,' he said turning and walking out. I was straight on the phone to John Gaydon. 'That's it!' I said, 'the band's finished!' I went on to relay the events of the last hour 'But you can't split up now, not over something so petty, surely!' 'Yes, I can. I'm sorry, I just cannot go on working with such a negative attitude. The first album was hard enough." 'Look, let's all get together for a meeting tomorrow and discuss this sensibly,' and with that, John hung up. I phoned Carl next. 'Do you remember that I 10/8, 5/4 drum pattern you played some time ago?' 'Ah? Oh yeah' 'Well, I've written a piece of music over it.' 'Great!' 'Well, not so great. I just played it to Greg, who (lady refuses to have anything to do with it. 'How can he do that without even trying It? I mean ... 1 haven't heard it yet ... don't my opinions count?' 'Exactly. I'm sorry, Carl, I don't think I can continue with the band. John wants us to have a meeting tomorrow, but I don't hold much hope.' The following evening, I arrived at John's residence and walked into an atmosphere that had the consistency of cold porridge on soggy toast. David Enthoven, Carl and Greg had obviously been talking at great length prior to my arrival and, by the looks on their faces, hadn't got very far. 'What is It about this piece you've written that's so important?' John asked me compassionately. 'It's everything I've always wanted to play, and with this band's capabilities, we'll blow every other band clean off the stand playing it. But perhaps Greg is right; perhaps it's the right time to start my solo album.' 'It's just not commercial,' countered Greg. I detected a certain pleading in his voice. I offered. 'Was the unison line in 20th Century Schizoid Man" commercial? No! But it was King Crimson's biggest hit.' 'But that had a song.' 'What's to say that this piece shouldn't go into a song?' 'By the time you've got through playing all that esoteric rubbish, you won't have a fuckin' audience,' Greg implored. David intervened. 'Greg, what's the harm in at least trying it?' 'Yeah,' said Carl. 'I haven't even heard the piece yet. It might be complete crap, but I think we should give maestro here the benefit of the doubt.' 'Believe me,' said Greg, 'This is not the right direction for the next album! 'What is, Greg? Have you written anything for it yet?' said John. 'No, but . . . ' 'So what's to lose? At least give it a try In Advision Studios tomorrow,' 'I'll tell you what's to lose,' said Greg, 'wasting studio time, recording crap. That's what's to fuckin' lose!' 'You'll be paying for it anyway because it's too late to cancel the booking.' said David. That settled it! The next afternoon. Eddie Offord hung back in the control room. He'd sensed there was enough static in the air to drive all his 16 tracks. Greg selected the appropriate 48 soft graphite pencil from his collection of many and opened his newly acquired manuscript book. 'What are the notes?' he asked rather sulkily. This wasn't quite the attitude one wanted when embarking upon a voyage in the dark, gripping to the sides of a ship that was so obviously sinking. Some holes had to be filled. 'F...B flat...E flat...B flat...A flat...E flat...' 'Wait! Let me learn that bit first.' Greg practiced it up to speed, jotting the notes down as he went. I ignored the fact that, as he wrote his part do in big capital letters above the staves of the manuscript paper, he could just as easily have written it out on blank legal foolscap. But at least it gave the appearance and importance that this was proper music he was writing. The next bits were learned in much the same fashion. Two days later, a complete transformation had taken place, and we were ready to start recording. Gone was the dark cloud of doubt as Greg threw himself wholeheartedly into a piece that did not have a name. 'Put some Moog on there and, Carl, a gong here?' I was relieved. I didn't care who wore the producer's cap; my madcap composition was going further than I could have hoped for. The first song that I hoped Greg would sing came quickly. But I feared the changes might upset the further developments. It was the B fiat, E flat. G triad holding over a C root that changed suddenly to a C sharp that gave me the most concern in its acceptability. I needn't have worried. My vocal squawkings of the song over the same chords were enough to encourage. We were on a roll, and, as a result, the entire Tarkus album was recorded in only two weeks! By way of celebration, we jammed an impromptu rock number 'Are You Ready, Eddie?', named after our engineer Eddie Offord and his 16 tracks.
@chazwyman8951
@chazwyman8951 3 года назад
It sounds as great now as ever.
@tommalik9425
@tommalik9425 3 года назад
Great story!
@tented
@tented 3 года назад
Thanks for adding this. I loved reading it.
@jonsilence
@jonsilence 3 года назад
Fascinating insights about how ELP's signature composition nearly finished the band before their 2nd album!
@garfieldisgod
@garfieldisgod 3 года назад
Wow; even geniuses can be "mean and cruel".........So very glad they worked it through.........and gave us this wonderful music!!!
@Sharkstout
@Sharkstout 2 года назад
The entire story is illustrated on the album jacket. My father was a professional piano player, Keith was his idol. I grew up listening to all the ELP albums and tarkus always stood out to me. One time we went in to the church down the street when no one was there so he could play the house organ and well yeah he played Tarkus.
@synapticaxon9303
@synapticaxon9303 Год назад
Haha, I can picture that. I used to play the church organ when everybody was eating pot luck after Sunday sermons. They were surprisingly receptive to Stairway to Heaven! :)
@mrswimmyboy
@mrswimmyboy Год назад
"The entire story is illustrated on the album jacket." I don't believe the concept on the jacket had anything to do with Emerson, Lake and Palmer's concept. Except that waging war was a theme. The jacket is entertaining though.
@sharonagresta-siekerman8601
@sharonagresta-siekerman8601 11 месяцев назад
That had to be one of the best experiences. Thanks for sharing this memory of your Dad's 'ultra-coolness'
@anthonyodonnell6105
@anthonyodonnell6105 10 месяцев назад
Awesome story!
@ericdonvil7501
@ericdonvil7501 2 месяца назад
Also, Tarkus could only beat hybrid creatures like itself.
@alyneorleans5018
@alyneorleans5018 2 года назад
These three were geniuses, and they unapologetically tapped European classical and folk to create masterpieces like this. Total genius. Rest In Peace, Greg and Keith! ♥️
@ralphclark
@ralphclark 2 года назад
Keith Emerson's jazz keyboard improvisations were out of sight. What a genius. The things he could do even with a monophonic synth.
@madmattdrummer5487
@madmattdrummer5487 3 года назад
The genius of Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, and Carl Palmer will never be matched. No one else was writing music like this in 1971
@MechanicalRabbits
@MechanicalRabbits 3 года назад
Honestly, nobody is writing music like this in 2021 either. We've had many great prog bands through the decades, but the first ELP recordings are still a completely unique take on the genre that I haven't seen anyone else match or even aproximate. They were so eclectic and blended so many different music genres that nobody would even think of mixing, I'm still in love with the idea of having a wild west themed ragtime song on each album for no apparent reason hahahaha.
@bgdexter
@bgdexter 3 года назад
@@MechanicalRabbits True. Except for the approximation, check out Triumvirat, they've had some very ELPy moments even regarding composition. And Tritonus came very close to the ELP sound. But ELP were way over 9000.
@sheldonwheaton881
@sheldonwheaton881 3 года назад
When I cross myself,I say Emerson,Lake& Palmer.🗿
@madmattdrummer5487
@madmattdrummer5487 3 года назад
@@bgdexter I was about to recommend triumvirat! Great band as well
@davelighthall9435
@davelighthall9435 3 года назад
Welcome to GENESIS. Try The lamb lies down at Broadway
@gerarddion4859
@gerarddion4859 Год назад
The more I listen to Tarkus, the more I am moved by Greg’s incredibly evocative guitar playing on “Battlefield”! The production is also so amazing in how well it has held up after fifty years! It’s another testament to Greg’s genius! Emerson has to be the greatest keyboardist of his generation with his ability to move so deftly from Hammond organ to synthesizers to piano and every other keyboard in between. He also has to be the greatest progressive rock musician, IMO. He was able to play and combine several different genres of music including rock, classical, blues, jazz and even some avant-garde better than any other musician that I have ever heard! True genius! Lastly for me, no one does song ending crescendos better than Emerson! RIP dear Maestro. Oh! I forgot to mention drummer/percussionist extraordinaire, Carl Palmer. I’m from a drummers family and IOM, Carl and Buddy Rich were in a class by themselves above all others. I had the thrill of seeing ELP in concert a dozen or so times. I have never seen performances like it since.
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 3 года назад
Small fact: EVERY time Keith sat down at a piano or keyboard, he would start playing Eruption. He loved it as much as we do. There IS a Japanese CD of a classical symphony doing a full performance of Tarkus. It is ASTONISHING and as good or better than the ELP version....
@voiceover2191
@voiceover2191 2 года назад
Yeah, it's amazing, wouldn't call it better, but it's brilliant and very entertaining to watch.
@TheRKae
@TheRKae 3 года назад
In an interview, when Rick Wakeman was asked, "What Emerson composition do you wish you'd written?" he answered, "Tarkus."
@markjacobsen8335
@markjacobsen8335 3 года назад
Wakeman loved "Trilogy" as well. Interesting that he wished he wrote Tarkus. RW is amongst the best, for sure, but he really never got out of the UK much when it came to influence. Keith Emerson, on the other hand, was steeped in Eastern Europe styles and a bit in the Americas. I just don't think Rick would have the feel to compose something like Tarkus, so it's cool that he admires it so much.
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 3 года назад
Saw it on RU-vid too. Rick also liked the Tarkus album cover. It was a very entertaining interview, informative and both Rick and Keith were very funny. Contrast to their very serious musical sides.
@OFR
@OFR 3 года назад
They were good friends. Both very funny and laughed a lot.
@florazaken-greenberg1697
@florazaken-greenberg1697 3 года назад
@@markjacobsen8335 I saw ELP in 1971: totally memorable, especially when the late lamented Mr. Emerson jumped into the audience with a portable keyboard/synthesizer.
@lisagulick4144
@lisagulick4144 3 года назад
@mk smith Man, I wish I'd gone to your high school. The arguments at mine were about whether Ford or Chevy made the better pickup truck! The music was mostly Top 40 or C & W...not a prog nerd in the whole place, except for yours truly.
@tdave1234
@tdave1234 3 года назад
Rachel Flowers does an amazing cover of Tarkus. Keith gave her permission to use his Moog that was getting worked on by a restorer in CA.
@quentinmichel7581
@quentinmichel7581 3 года назад
She is a wonder.
@wordshavemeaningsevenwheni6975
@wordshavemeaningsevenwheni6975 3 года назад
Watching Rachel play and listening to her original works leaves me grasping for superlatives. Her takes on Karn Evil #9 and Trilogy are also brilliant. Why she isn't a household name remains a mystery to me.
@macronencer
@macronencer 3 года назад
I saw that video! She is absolutely incredible!
@craigfazekas3923
@craigfazekas3923 3 года назад
She did a great version of Country Pie, the version by The Nice. Rachel's mom, for reasons unknown, pulled that video down. I loved that damn video..... 🚬😎
@anguitenens
@anguitenens 3 года назад
That young lady is unbelievable!!!
@Joeh1154
@Joeh1154 3 года назад
ELP was light years before it's time. Keith Emerson was a wonder to behold in performance. His gear was humongous and Keith was a small fellow so he looked like he was climbing on to his gear from time to time. His talent is undeniable and his compositions were complex and beautiful. And this was in the early 1970's!!
@robertadams6606
@robertadams6606 Год назад
Keith was literally reinventing the Synthesizer as he was going. Dr. Moog couldn't believe someone would take this Instrument on tour or do what Keith did with it.
@ernielabarr646
@ernielabarr646 2 года назад
Greg Lake played all string instruments and of course his awesome haunting voice that perfect for the music that King Crimson and E,L,P were doing.
@davidburke8311
@davidburke8311 2 года назад
I was told....in about 1974, that if I liked ELP I would be into classical misic and it would take over my life. Here I am, 60 years old, still into ELP, Sabbath, Yes, Riverside, Porcupine Tree, Ravel, Mussorgsky, Rachminoff, Meshuggah, Incubus, Pat Metheny and anything else you can hit me with, as long as it's it's not rap or been autotuned. I think the thing to remember about the 70's was that you were not part of a pigeonholed lifestyle. Zappa, Beefheart and then saying you owned Birds Of Fire? No problem. I absolutely love the fact I grew up in those years!
@bojiden
@bojiden Год назад
@@davidburke8311 Yes, Mussorgsky all the way! Amusingly, it was Mussorgsky that helped to get me into prog rock, not the other way around. I heard the animusic cover of Pictures at an Exhibition, listened to a full orchestra version of mussorgskys original, and eventually discovered and got into the ELP version, leading me to the rest of prog rock.
@thomasmckelvey8961
@thomasmckelvey8961 11 месяцев назад
@@davidburke8311 INDEED!!!
@autk
@autk 11 месяцев назад
​@@davidburke8311with ya bro, the seventies were the decade of the best music across genres, I remember being 10 years old on New years Eve 1969-70 listening to the radio. Thanks to my sister, she gave me Tarkus and Mountain Nantucket Sleighride and many other prog records in my early teens! RIP sis. ❤
@Stopmeghost
@Stopmeghost 3 года назад
Doug my friend, you are a gift to us music-heads who love the prog rock. I love your enthusiasm and the way you break down these songs structurally. I would rather have one of your videos than 1000 articles or subjective reviews from so-called "music critics". Keep it up my man, I love it!
@seorsamaclately4294
@seorsamaclately4294 3 года назад
so true
@MichaelKrasowitz
@MichaelKrasowitz 3 года назад
yes this is a brilliant analysis!
@larrote6467
@larrote6467 2 года назад
you mean those music critics that have tarkus as one of the best albums ever? typical comment from someone that knows little about a subject.
@guidenredhawk
@guidenredhawk 2 года назад
I do enjoy seeing his first true reactions but I would love for him to go back and analyze these great prog songs with sheet music. Unfortunately its not easy to find sheet music nor is there material for it most of the time, but I'm glad that he was able to analyze this!
@johninjersey
@johninjersey 3 года назад
I can't read music but seeing this makes me even more impressed by Keith Emerson. RIP Keith and Gregg. Two musical geniuses!
@peteb1206
@peteb1206 3 года назад
They sure were.
@TSotP
@TSotP 3 года назад
Certainly not shitting on them, at all. But go and have a look at some Aphex Twin sheet music.
@Pau1fc
@Pau1fc 3 года назад
Congratulations you very nearly cracked a classical musical joke/insult, Q: What is a trio? A: Two musicians and a drummer! (Don't get me wrong drummers ARE musicians and Carl Palmer was stunning. I was 19 when this came out and saw Tarkus in concert, it blew flames from its nostrils.
@wadson990
@wadson990 2 года назад
Eargasm
@anthonyodonnell6105
@anthonyodonnell6105 10 месяцев назад
This is so far above general popular music in so many ways-harmony built on fourths (as well as thirds), crazy time signatures, wild modes/scales, bizarre chords and virtuosic playing. And yet it was hugely popular, which just shows that Emerson was making music ordinary people could feel, even if it was so unusual.
@VV-fe8mf
@VV-fe8mf 8 месяцев назад
Had the pleasure of seeing this performed live shortly after Tarkus was released. The setting was a concert hall where the local symphony and musicals are performed. It was my first of 3 ELP concerts in my lifetime. The audience went wild. The management was not prepared for us young listeners enthusiastic shenanigans. The ushers tried to calm us down. Keith Emerson egged us on and they finally dropped the curtain on the band. What a memorable show!
@joanstone6740
@joanstone6740 7 месяцев назад
what a gorgeous voice Greg Lake had
@user-ve4ig6pw1s
@user-ve4ig6pw1s Месяц назад
All of that smoking took it's toll later on in his career. Plus he was very overweight. Hell, I'm 70, and my stomach isn't ANYWHERE near as big as his was.
@Naniamania3
@Naniamania3 3 года назад
I had the incredible good fortune to record with Keith in 1996. He had just recovered from carpal tunnel surgery and was playing again. Even after the surgery he was simply astounding and was capable of things that many players could not even comprehend. He was also a wonderful person. Big heart and a great sense of humor. What an incredible gift he gave to us and what an incredible loss when he left us. Would love to hear you do Inca Roads by Zappa. Or some Allan Holdsworth. Thanks for the analysis and breakdown!
@MicheleCampus
@MicheleCampus 3 года назад
Wow! Lucky you! I guess you're also a musician :)
@Naniamania3
@Naniamania3 3 года назад
@@MicheleCampus very lucky. Sometimes the stars align. Musician? I try.
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 3 года назад
Even at the very end, with some serious hand issues, the FEW notes he could handle were full of those cool, personal choices he made. His note-selection was impeccable and so Keith Emerson; I really wish he was around longer to play with things that were not so complex. His sense of humor you mention is something that is really significant, he was so funny!
@haljalykakik2384
@haljalykakik2384 3 года назад
I have a friend who used to work at Moog in Asheville, NC and had the pleasure to meet Keith when he was in town to pick up one of his modular systems after they had done some sort of work on it. He has some awesome photos of himself and Keith, as well as some photos of them putting the modular into road cases for transport. Cool stuff!
@ericwincentsen587
@ericwincentsen587 3 года назад
"There's no beating it." He obviously hasn't seen what Emerson did to those poor organs.
@stevenspicer4873
@stevenspicer4873 3 года назад
Let's not forget the flying piano!
@smitlag
@smitlag 3 года назад
@@stevenspicer4873 the flying piano was a show gimmick although a good one. Piano hammers don't work upside down. But Keith had some balls strapping himself to a 2 ton 9 ft grand piano rigged up to spin.
@stevenspicer4873
@stevenspicer4873 3 года назад
@@smitlag of course it was a gimmick. After the comment on the tortured organs (nothing Freudian there, folks ;-)) I was expressing my sympathy for that piano. Ride 'em, cowboy!
@smitlag
@smitlag 3 года назад
@@stevenspicer4873 pretty amazing that he had time to be a showman while juggling patch cords on that giant modular with both hands and feet playing organ parts. He was the premier keyboardist of that time although I think Kerry Minear of Gentle Giant was probably overall a better musician. So many damn good players during that time.. Many had classical backgrounds as well. We will never see music like that again.
@stevenspicer4873
@stevenspicer4873 3 года назад
@@smitlag agree completely.
@markjeghers4408
@markjeghers4408 2 года назад
Hey Doug, You commented at approx 35:30 about how the upper staff sounded "programmed" and wondered how it could be played. It was done with a monophonic synthesizer with the 3 oscillators set to 1-4-5 intervals, so one note on the keyboard would play all three notes of that chord. So the upper staff was all one key played with one finger at a time. It's one of the cool things about monophonic synths. Something that most polyphonic synths can't really do.
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 2 года назад
I guessed as much. Keith would have been familiar with mutation stops, not just from his Hammonds but from pipe organs, where the same idea originated.
@steveg219
@steveg219 2 года назад
I agree but I do think there are overdubs on this section as well
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 2 года назад
@@steveg219 ELP regularly performed all their material live, and Tarkus was a recurrent mainstay of their live concerts.
@steveg219
@steveg219 2 года назад
@@Gottenhimfella absolutely and they could totally play this live but I do hear some overdubs on lead guitar and synth melodies, Doesn’t in any way detract from the masterful composition and playing!
@adriancranny7072
@adriancranny7072 2 года назад
Doug, I’ve loved this music since I was in my early teens. I don’t understand a word your saying in regards to reading music, but I find it fascinating and can’t stop watching. It’s also great to hear this great music again. Thank you.
@davmtu
@davmtu 3 года назад
My brother was a piano player and he spent hours learning this album by ear in 1971. He could play it perfect after much practice. it is great to see the song still being appreciated today. It blew us all away when it was released.
@QHarefield
@QHarefield 3 года назад
Wow! Kudos to your brother. Learning stuff by ear is one thing; learning ELP - especially Tarkus - is another!!
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 3 года назад
On piano its hard.
@kenaldri4915
@kenaldri4915 3 года назад
I taught myself to play this too. Then I went to college and looked and looked for others who had done the same as me. i found one my sophmore year. There was actually a Hammond B3 organ in the basement of my dorm, and the two of us had a blast comparing our renditions.
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 2 года назад
@@kenaldri4915 I wasn't that ambitious as a teenager, but now with the help of the transcription I find most of Tarkus surprisingly playable. Keith had the knack of writing stuff that despite sounding unbelievable, falls nicely under the fingers. I don't think my left hand was up to it then, but I've played a fair bit of boogie and jazz since, and that's pretty essential.
@jimmyggs91
@jimmyggs91 3 года назад
When Doug said "what chord is that?", even with the full music score at screen, I was like "don't look at me..." 😆
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 3 года назад
A chord that only Dylan Beato could resolve by ear :)
@philcross8561
@philcross8561 3 года назад
@@u.v.s.5583 Lmfao
@VallinSFAS
@VallinSFAS 3 года назад
Stravinsky and Ligeti meet Thelonius Monk with a pinch of Frank Zappa and King Crimson.
@VallinSFAS
@VallinSFAS 3 года назад
The 4ths follow how a bass guitar is strung.
@VallinSFAS
@VallinSFAS 3 года назад
In true Scorpio tradition, I did Tarkus as a piano course for a summer session in college. Like Aaron Copland, I had to teach it to my teacher (such a patient man) so he could teach it to me!
@jasonmeadors3524
@jasonmeadors3524 2 года назад
I found this video in running down an ELP rabbit hole. I need to follow you more. Back in college, circa 1972, when I heard Tarkus for the first time, in revolutionized my appreciation of music. I simply didn't realize there was music like this being played. It was stunning. It changed everything. In musical terms that I mostly don't understand, you have explained how this piece could have pierced my consciousness and brought it to a new level that I didn't even know existed. ELP got me interested in things other than the pop rock of the time. I became aware that there was depth to music beyond simply liking lyrics and tones. Heck, I came to appreciate classical music because of ELP. Thank you for your analysis and appreciation of this piece. It cements the feeling from this non-musically-trained guy, when I first heard it: "This is something wonderful."
@richdisilvio4591
@richdisilvio4591 3 года назад
"Tarkus" along with "Gates of Delirium" by Yes are the 2 greatest Prog masterpieces of all time.
@Yesshows01
@Yesshows01 2 года назад
Close to the Edge is the reference in my opinion.
@bostonseeker
@bostonseeker 2 года назад
@@Yesshows01 As a Genesis fan, I do have to agree. But Tarkus and Supper's Ready, as well as a few other Genesis pieces, like Cinema Show, are also way up there.
@ZaphiroAnejo
@ZaphiroAnejo 2 года назад
@@bostonseeker I'd say Firth of fifth is every single amazing thing Genesis has but compressed to a few minutes, but Supper's ready is amazing too
@tixximmi1
@tixximmi1 2 года назад
I'll give that honor to The Adventures of Greggery Peccary
@TheSpiralAim
@TheSpiralAim 2 года назад
Stardust We Are by The Flower Kings belongs on that list too.
@zipzip070
@zipzip070 3 года назад
Tarkus is one of the most insane pieces of music I've ever been exposed to. I did not 'get' it the first time, or the first few times. It took a while for me to appreciate it. Keith Emerson was just truly an incredible musician. I love Carl Palmer going ballistic during 'Mass' as Emerson is also doing so. And that massive synth ending. Absolutely crazy, wild piece of music. I'd never heard anything like it, even having already become of fan of prog-era Genesis and Yes. Happy 50 years!
@TheRKae
@TheRKae 3 года назад
And let's not forget: Lake was a BRILLIANT producer! The sound is clear as a bell! He took it up as a sort of (shrug) "Sure, I'll give producing a try," and he rivals the likes of Alan Parsons and Trevor Horn.
@gpk9993
@gpk9993 3 года назад
@@TheRKae sorry pal....lake never produced any ELP material,,,,ever....this album was produce by Eddy Offord....get your facts straight
@davep8221
@davep8221 3 года назад
@zipzip070 -- "I'd never heard anything like it, even having already become of fan of prog-era Genesis and Yes." IMO, that's a key characteristic of prog, they share so many things, yet all are totally different and exceptional in all ways. In short, it's cool and I like it. In long: Each match a different part of your psyche (if I may be so pretentious ;-) and current mood. Many times withing a single piece. I truly think the best of it is our modern, mostly electric/electronic form of "classical" mvsik. I think that old scene in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" where Beethoven is rocking out is true. They *were* the "rock" stars of the day and many preferred the new and "modern" of the day in instrumentation, inventing new forms and sounds. Innovation was the rule of the day, and still is.
@TheRKae
@TheRKae 3 года назад
@@gpk9993 Get YOUR facts straight. Eddie was the engineer. Lake produced the first album (self-titled), Tarkus, Brain Salad, Trilogy, Pictures, etc. Are you one of those CNN fact-checkers?
@bobby666666
@bobby666666 3 года назад
@@gpk9993 Greg Lake Produced and Eddie Offord was the Engineer.
@eduardoferreira1963
@eduardoferreira1963 3 года назад
The Gates of Delirium of Yes THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK MASTERPIECE
@sheldonwheaton881
@sheldonwheaton881 3 года назад
Karn Evil 9.🗿
@cricket8646
@cricket8646 3 года назад
The entire Relayer album is a masterpiece !!!!
@infojester3318
@infojester3318 3 года назад
How about something from Tales from Topographic Oceans
@davep8221
@davep8221 3 года назад
Eduardo Ferreira -- Yes, yes, yes, yes please do an analysis of GoD like this. Even better would be Awaken. I think it's Jon's fav, and one of Rick's (CttE and Awaken). I know it's mine.
@PacificAirPhoto1
@PacificAirPhoto1 3 года назад
I can get behind that.
@daze1945
@daze1945 3 года назад
Manticore was the name of ELPs own record label. ELP were a truly amazing band with incredible talent and musicality. R.I.P Keith and Greg. I really enjoyed watching this video. Many thanks.
@blakeseybolt4815
@blakeseybolt4815 Год назад
You're the only guy I've heard listen to Tarkus in its entirety for the first time, and say "Is that it?" Applause.
@willardarmbruster8111
@willardarmbruster8111 3 года назад
They were 26, 23, and 20 years old when they created and recorded this.
@Vina_Ravyn
@Vina_Ravyn 3 года назад
Carl Palmer was 15 playing with the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. Yup that's him on Fire.
@michaelcalia6072
@michaelcalia6072 3 года назад
@@Vina_Ravyn I seem to recall Buddy Rich saying on the Tonight Show I think it was there weren't rock drummers he was impressed by other than Carl Palmer.
@michaelhogan6770
@michaelhogan6770 3 года назад
@@Carlosant Buddy? the marine /black belt who also was the worlds best drummer
@ChildovGhad
@ChildovGhad 3 года назад
@@Carlosant Oh nobody. Just some guy that Carl Palmer and everyone else was trying to be like, though Buddy Rich himself was trying to emulate the jazz drummers of the 1920s.
@laurakain1524
@laurakain1524 3 года назад
@@ChildovGhad Buddy was a jazz drummer in the 20s
@ericanderson8886
@ericanderson8886 3 года назад
"Pictures at an Exhibition" would be a great album to react to. Classical and progressive, ELP and Mussorgsky. Thanks for the reaction.
@matto9734
@matto9734 3 года назад
Yes, absolutely! Another true masterpiece. I love Baba Yagas´hut ;-)
@sneezejs
@sneezejs 3 года назад
@John Ashtone erm.... The old Castle BLUES VARIATION? erm... the Curse of Baba Yaga? Don’t remember old Modest or Maurice writing any lyrics for the pictures either. Have you actually listened to the ELP version?
@dopaminecloud
@dopaminecloud 3 года назад
@John Ashtone based ravel fan
@patriciadyar2482
@patriciadyar2482 3 года назад
@John Ashtone You can't be serious!
@danielmoore4693
@danielmoore4693 3 года назад
I second that, Pictures would be great for a reaction video! It's a splendid example of ELP taking brilliant liberal license with an established work. Moreso even, when you consider the relative time scale, than with Toccata. I'd expect to see several raised-brow expressions on Doug's face !
@rick49
@rick49 3 года назад
I won this album at a carnival in 1971 when I was 10. Been listening to it for 50 years! SUPER FANTASTIC WONDERFUL! I so love your composer's viewpoint. Awesome!
@mattwaters6987
@mattwaters6987 8 месяцев назад
Wow! You won this album! What a sweet memory you have! (Envious) 👍😊
@lesliemarincsak3992
@lesliemarincsak3992 2 года назад
I've been listening to Tarkus since I was 13 (I'm now 64) and I never tire of it. A true masterpiece!! They do a great version of it on Live from the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1997. It's available on DVD and CD and is a magnificent concert!!! Saw their final show at the High Voltage Festival in London, England with my son in 2010.
@robertadams6606
@robertadams6606 Год назад
I am 69 now & I still enjoy especially when Keith could still use all of his fingers well. What a composition in this mans musical extraordinary talents & musical vision.
@annmarieholland4242
@annmarieholland4242 Год назад
It was wonderful!!
@mlkuhnpdx
@mlkuhnpdx 3 года назад
Did you notice how when Aquatarkus started, the sound was vastly different from the organs and synthesizers and sounded more like it was being played underwater? Very creative!
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 2 года назад
Indeed. I think he's using filters on the big modular Moog. Also it's an interesting right hand with those fast-moving suspended fourth triads. Doug raised a valid question when he pondered whether the pitch relationship in this section might be programmed - there are two sections of Tarkus which I find unplayable at tempo without some sort of technological assist, and they both have this sort of programmatic feature (the other is the first un-notated keyboard solo, labelled "improvise ad lib over pattern" on page 10 of Keith's transcription) It seems clear to me that Keith used an idea from pipe organ construction, where upper partials are explicitly added into what are often labelled "Mixture" or "Mutation" stops. This creates a very bright and characteristic sound, but by fooling around can also produce some remarkable effects. This idea was carried over into the Hammond tonewheel electronic organs, with pitches like 2 2/3', which is the perfect twelfth (second harmonic) of the foundation 8' pitch. I believe in this Aquatarkus section KE must have pre-programmed the modular Moog to play an extra two pitches (perfect fourth and fifth) in addition to the note being played - extracting a polyphonic effect from a monophonic instrument. In the earlier solo it may have been just the Hammond's mutation stop (perfect twelfth) in combination with a 4' octave drawbar, to create a perfect fifth effect from a monophonic melody. I don't think Keith ever resorted to sequencing (unlike, say, "Baba O'Riley" by his contemporary, Pete Townsend of the Who). I think he probably thought that was relinquishing the limelight, and he would have resisted delegating anything if it was humanly possible to play it. He was dedicated to playing live, with only two colleagues, things which ordinary mortals would struggle to approximate in a fully equipped studio with sequencing, multitracking, click tracks and whatever else.
@derekbacharach
@derekbacharach 2 года назад
Sounded almost like a duck march
@islandpalm148
@islandpalm148 2 года назад
@@derekbacharach Yes, didn't like that sound at all. Live version was nothing like that and far superior.
@josephwirtz8352
@josephwirtz8352 2 года назад
Michael, that’s always been my impression!
@brianglock3099
@brianglock3099 Год назад
Aquatarkus, multi track synths, “ duck” is one track, synth oscillators, filter envelope generators and amp set to create sound. The “ polyphonic”line is another track, probably recorded before solo track, is oscillators tuned to different pitches then played monophonically. Early synths were not polyphonic so many times to get a polyphonic sound you tuned oscillators in intervals, most Modular’s had at least three. Later synths two. All fun good stuff
@phred23
@phred23 3 года назад
I love your reaction to the section in Em. "Of course it was by the guitarist"
@Synth_Tools
@Synth_Tools 3 года назад
ELP music is, essentially, classical music played with rock instruments.
@davewilliamson7549
@davewilliamson7549 3 года назад
ELP is the classical music of the modern era. Mozart would like them I'm sure.
@pandstar
@pandstar 3 года назад
@@davewilliamson7549 While I am a big ELP fan, I have to disagree. There is plenty of classical music of the modern era: Thomas Ades, Joan Tower, Penderecki, Harrison Birtwisle, Unsuk Chin, Olga Neuwirth, the list of incredible modern classical is long and varied...
@mwmann
@mwmann 3 года назад
YOU HIT THE EXACT CHORD THAT SHOULD RING OUT TO ALL WHO LISTEN. This being one of my personalities they call, EL SUPREMO, SON OF EL DEMO, ( the e is long ). EL SUPREMO IS THAT LINEMAN FROM THAT COUNTY Glen Campbell sings about in Wichita Lineman. EL SUPREMO ABSORBS THE ENERGY DIRECTLY FROM THE ELECTRICITY IN THE LINES AND TRANSFORMERS. UNLIKE HIS FATHER EL DEMO WHO LIVED 1300 YEARS AGO. WHO ABSORBED ENERGY FROM THE MOST PRECIOUS OF METALS, PEASANTS AND BY ATTRACTING LIGHTNING STRIKES UNTO HIMSELF. THEIR LAST NAME IS A NUMBER. EL DEMO 666. EL SUPREMO 666 jr.
@Synth_Tools
@Synth_Tools 3 года назад
@@mwmann dude, you should stop doing drugs.
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U 2 года назад
Classical music is how people rocked before amplifiers.
@progressiverockman5346
@progressiverockman5346 2 года назад
A thought about the "Manticore" section--it uses some sort of jig/folk song melodies, as well as parallel 5ths in the harmony. To oppose the idea that this shift signals Tarkus' demise, I believe it's to showcase the contrast between an ancient/mythological creature from a time where an older form of harmony and melody were used (being literally reflected in the music), as opposed to this new creature borne in a time of quartal harmony being a modern creation.
@synapticaxon9303
@synapticaxon9303 Год назад
Ooh! Good idea there! Equal vs just intonation, like that?
@matteoart4721
@matteoart4721 3 года назад
Fun fact: this pearl of rock has been written in six days.
@pentagrammaton6793
@pentagrammaton6793 3 года назад
Like Genesis! God, not the band. :D
@TsukiumisGuy
@TsukiumisGuy 3 года назад
@@pentagrammaton6793 Although Genesis the band created complex songs during their early years before they became a radio friendly band.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 3 года назад
That short? Maybe six days to *record* ... I do know that most of it was written by Emerson, and when he played part of it, Greg Lake wasn't sure that he really wanted to go in that direction. (Luckily for us, he changed his mind!)
@matteoart4721
@matteoart4721 3 года назад
@@christopherheckman7957 Legend does claim so. Authors and journalists remember Emerson has written the score in only six days: it was a truly prodigy.
@craigfazekas3923
@craigfazekas3923 3 года назад
Ian Underwood started this composition. It was given to Keith by Frank Zappa, but largely unfinished..... Ian Underwood wrote out a manuscript with notes written, but no concept or anything like it attached. ELP rounded it out, fleshed out the concept.
@salmonline
@salmonline 3 года назад
I saw "Tarkus" and was like, "oh, heck yeah!"
@garywillingham3644
@garywillingham3644 3 года назад
I saw the Tarkus tour my 3rd concert 2 months after Yes Those 2 shows changed my life I was 13
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 3 года назад
My favorite ELP track.
@Sigmaairav
@Sigmaairav 2 года назад
Those rolling drones of the organ really hit home the imagery of rolling tank treads. Phenomenal music
@jonmallek7746
@jonmallek7746 Год назад
Being a long-time metalhead, I always loved ELP, thought they were the heaviest of the orog scene.
@2explore1
@2explore1 3 года назад
Doug, Your cognitive hearing the chords and visualization is amazing.
@belliiahmed
@belliiahmed 3 года назад
Am I the only one here that watching the full video without even knowing what's a Music note means 😂 I just enjoy good Music 😁
@gregerkihlstrom915
@gregerkihlstrom915 3 года назад
No
@jimnotman6902
@jimnotman6902 3 года назад
I just nod and pretend I understand what he’s saying... 👍
@quentinmichel7581
@quentinmichel7581 3 года назад
You're not alone.
@steeleye2112
@steeleye2112 3 года назад
Nope, but it's fascinating all the same isn't it.
@ecorb6614
@ecorb6614 3 года назад
I learned to read music in the high school band, but this is still mind blowing. Doug, it absolutely added to this piece, rather than detracted. Thank you!!
@peteb1206
@peteb1206 3 года назад
Not a single wasted note or moment. Relentless, wonderful, so much incredible talent and inventiveness and creativity. Pretentious, probably, but the shivers and the tears I get from it every time I hear it would seem to indicate that it doesn't matter too much. I just wish this was a true reaction video of Doug hearing this remarkable piece for the first time as that would have been something to see.
@samus88
@samus88 3 года назад
Every single time I hear this song, I can just about picture Tarkus, its fights and exile. It helps that I also own the LP with the inner gatefold art. What a masterpiece of a song.
@adam872
@adam872 3 года назад
It remains an incredible piece of music to this day. Keith was genuinely a genius as a player and composer. His sense of harmonic and melodic development in pieces was nothing short of remarkable. The music to me is 20th Century classical music, meets jazz, played by a rock band.
@mjtgough
@mjtgough 3 года назад
I've listened toTarkus literally hundreds of times since it first came out...I've performed it and recorded it (well, parts of it after a fashion)...but I've never heard it like this before. I LOVE how you approach it and break it down with the sheet music. I may not even understand everything you're talking about (I think I get most of it) but from now on I will always have a deeper, fuller experience of Tarkus thanks to you. Thank you-I'm a new fan!
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 3 года назад
This sounded like the original version or a remix of the original (possibly with repetition of some parts) to me.
@ericschultz6539
@ericschultz6539 3 года назад
Thank so much Doug for the time that you've spent analyzing this piece and sharing it on youtube. I spent an hour and a half with it and found it much more interesting than I had expected. I used to listen to Tarkus when I was 12 years old(!) over 45 years ago, then I went on to other styles of music and became a composer myself. But I never realized how complex (and well developed! ! !) Emerson's music really was! How lucky I was to have listened to this piece dozens of times at that age! I hope that my comments were useful.
@MrJackmandew
@MrJackmandew 2 года назад
Seeing Kieth Emerson live was just amazing..
@stevenspicer4873
@stevenspicer4873 3 года назад
Greg Lake used bass pedals onstage, so he could add a bass line when playing guitar, or a second bass line when called for. Emerson wasn't the only octopus.
@konstantins.uvarin652
@konstantins.uvarin652 3 года назад
Carl Palmer is an octopus as well, look at those signature changes!
@milkwater1204
@milkwater1204 3 года назад
All of them were octopuses
@ChildovGhad
@ChildovGhad 3 года назад
@@milkwater1204 Or one single Vigintiquattuorpus.
@gustavopardiplaz4301
@gustavopardiplaz4301 3 года назад
Best voice EVER!!!!
@bostonseeker
@bostonseeker 2 года назад
@@konstantins.uvarin652 Genesis does this too. Listen carefully to Firth of Fifth, the opening.
@alanurdialesgarza4985
@alanurdialesgarza4985 3 года назад
I was really hoping you'd do it this week, and I wasn't dissapointed , great channel Dr. Doug
@shawnnorton2674
@shawnnorton2674 3 года назад
Keith Emerson is absolutely my favorite Hammond organ player, everyone else sounds tame in comparison. The only other person that could really make a Hammond “rock” was Jon Lord. Sadly both are gone.
@JP89SE3
@JP89SE3 3 года назад
I was half way through reading your comment and I was on the verge of screaming 'Jon Lord' - glad you got that in at the end (and I'm glad I read your comment fully. I completely agree, those two haven't been matched since and probably never will be. Greatly missed.
@andreyakovleff4103
@andreyakovleff4103 3 года назад
Yes. Funny like Deep Purple affects us oldies.
@dangabor8585
@dangabor8585 3 года назад
Obviously you haven't heard Close to The Edge.....the B3 solo at 15:00 is one of the best organ solos of all time.
@shawnnorton2674
@shawnnorton2674 3 года назад
@@dangabor8585 Why is it obvious? I owned that record more that 40 years ago. I enjoy Rick Wakeman as a keyboardist, but one solo doesn’t make you a Hammond organ god. Seeing Keith Emerson jump over a organ and pull it down on his legs and play it backwards is about as hardcore as you can get, let’s not forget him stabbing it with knives, obviously not stabbing but using them to hold keys down. Absolutely no disrespect to Yes or Mr. Wakeman. Saw Yes at the Boston Gardens in the late 1970’s and later Jon Anderson at the same venue. I can’t tell you how many times I listened to Rick Wakeman’s Journey to the Center of the Earth as a teenager. Rick is a talented and very gifted artist, as much as I love the Mellotron nobody ever made that instrument rock, maybe if you ran it through a Marshall.
@unknown6390
@unknown6390 3 года назад
Funnily enough, Billy Joel, famed piano player and songwriter, was in a prog duo in the 70s who recorded one album. the band was called 'Attila' and retrospective reviews from critics call it one of "the worst rock albums ever". Of course, what they failed to mention was the way Joel rigged his Hammond Organ up to a Marshall and played with all sorts of effects, bends, and stylistic choices thar are totally gnarly and tasty. Critics...
@mikew5858
@mikew5858 3 года назад
Emerson is THE MAN, even classical musicians know it. Karl Evil 9 and Pirates.
@bostonseeker
@bostonseeker 2 года назад
Classical pianists are most impressed by Karn and Tarkus. Amazing.
@mikew5858
@mikew5858 2 года назад
2nd Impression is a piano tour de force, one of the greatest performances of the 20th century.
@stringemup5941
@stringemup5941 3 года назад
“PIRATES”!!!! My favorite ELP large work! Done with full orchestra-you’ll love it! It’s basically a tone poem/cantata. But yeah, you have to check out “Karn”. I saw some other requests for it, and I fully second those requests!!! Love the channel!!!
@frankjw
@frankjw 3 года назад
+1 one this!
@MrB_2112
@MrB_2112 3 года назад
Pirates! Great piece!
@rkb2092
@rkb2092 3 года назад
Yes, great suggestion! He'd love that one.
@firefalcoln
@firefalcoln 3 года назад
I agreed. I think Pirates is their most overlooked or underrated epic.
@JohnBrooking4
@JohnBrooking4 3 года назад
I agree. I think Pirates is certainly one of the most successful, if not THE most successful, attempts to combine rock and orchestral music in a single piece. In so many other attempts by other groups, it seems like either one of the aesthetics only supplements the other, or they just alternate. In Pirates, both aesthetics blend seamlessly throughout, and are so musically illustrative of what the song is about. You can just picture an 18th century sailing ship appearing over the horizon, or a randy band of pirates on shore leave for a night.
@grubkiller1212
@grubkiller1212 3 года назад
Doug, you will become a full prog rock fan after you will react to a Plague of the lighthouse keepers by Van Dee Graaf Generator. Awesome song and story
@HerbalistGuybrush
@HerbalistGuybrush 3 года назад
I push Plague on every video. Thanks for helping out, soldier.
@atlasking6110
@atlasking6110 3 года назад
Lighthouse Keepers isn't for everyone. That's some heavy shit, man. It took me 35 years and the sudden death of a friend who was like a brother to me, before I "got it."
@PabloLink74
@PabloLink74 3 года назад
I recently remembered how I loved VDGG, been listening to Still Life and Scorched Earth for days, he should definetly react to Plague of the Lighthouse Keepers
@henriquecepulveda6117
@henriquecepulveda6117 3 года назад
totally agree. Amazin lyrics, very somber tone.
@pretzelcoatl-2102
@pretzelcoatl-2102 3 года назад
Count me in for Plague too
@treehousemarshmallow
@treehousemarshmallow Год назад
FYI, Doug, ELP performed Tarkus *live* in 1972 (?) in Southern California. It shows up on their album “Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends”. One of the things I love about this rendition is that between Iconoclast and Aquatarkus Keith does a *long* synthesizer improv that lasts about 10 minutes. It is virtuosic. I have never heard anyone else who could squeeze so much musical creativity out ancient synth technology! Mindblowing. Thank you for giving a Friday focus to this fascinating piece!
@RobertClearwater-keys
@RobertClearwater-keys 8 месяцев назад
Love your analysis. I started learning classical piano at age 4, and took lessons from a Korean Buddhist refugee woman from Panmunjon for 14 years. She taught me so much about the quality of music of all genres. I introduced her to ELP via Works Vol I. With Emerson's First Piano Concerto. Her reaction (that I will never forget) was "He's not terribly original, but his approach to playing, and his technical proficiency is beyond almost anyone I've heard." That's comparing him to Horowitz, Van Cliburn, Serkin, Glenn Gould, and other monsters of classical piano in the 20th century. But I'm going to use your analysis of his use of 4ths as constantly leading to another idea, increasing tension, or releasing it, in my improvisation. Thank you!
@Eu12505
@Eu12505 3 года назад
Having the sheet makes the analysis richer and pretty more didactic. I've been listening to this song for years and never realized the use of fourths. This is a real class, people would pay for it, or pass in a hard test in order to have it for free at a college! Thank you, Doug!
@stevehoole370
@stevehoole370 3 года назад
Yes, the use of 4ths throughout is fascinating and now knowing that has further enhanced my appreciation of this piece (that I’ve been listening to for nearly 50 years). I hear, also, that the Moog synth patch in Aquatarkus consists of three oscillators, tuned to the root, a 4th and a 5th. That now makes perfect sense in the context of the whole piece.
@toprak3479
@toprak3479 3 года назад
Stacked fourths is big in jazz and 70s prog.
@bostonseeker
@bostonseeker 2 года назад
@@toprak3479 It's interesting here that ELP use the fourths as a consonance and yet indicative of the conflict being described by the words.
@pierreparadis5143
@pierreparadis5143 3 года назад
"Take a Pebble" by ELP in its original 1st album full version, has some of the most incredible piano playing and superb drums and bass playing....
@seamusforever7081
@seamusforever7081 2 года назад
Also The Tree Fates... and Tank... and Knife-edge... all Emerson pieces are impressive, hahaha.
@haga2519
@haga2519 2 года назад
@@seamusforever7081 Knife-edge is not an Emerson composition though. It's mainly Janacek, with a little Bach thrown in.
@dalemonzon1361
@dalemonzon1361 2 года назад
@@haga2519 Exactly! Even though I was a music nerd in school - played in every band & orchestra I could get into (learned different instruments just so I could) ELP introduced me to a wider variety of composers than we were exposed to in high school. Janacek, Bartok, especially Ginestera - music that most amateurs don't get to play
@dpraptorP
@dpraptorP Год назад
Im no musician, but I really enjoyed this breakdown. Been listening to Tarkus since it came out and hearing it again now only enforces how incredible this music is. Even far more after listening to the more modern music of today, often which is written and recorded in a single day.
@thancrow
@thancrow 3 года назад
R.i.p. Greg Lake and Keith Emerson, two great musician. You are missed.
@pfontaine23
@pfontaine23 3 года назад
The Endless Enigma by ELP would be wonderful! Great channel and so much fun to share music with someone who can appreciate the thoughts and decisions that went Into the compositions. Thank you for these wonderful Friday videos!
@AndyGrazianoNYC
@AndyGrazianoNYC 3 года назад
I have been listening to and playing this music for almost 30 years - I have a master's degree in classical guitar and music ed, so watching the sheet music has DEFINITELY enhanced my enjoyment of this piece that I have loved for so long. Excellent analysis sir, you do a great job! Emerson's quotes from composers like Bartok and Janacek and others in his pieces are rewarding finds for the hunters out there - pick anything you like to do next you can't really go wrong (in the first 5 or so albums at least, before they really cheez it up)
@krishdutta5466
@krishdutta5466 3 года назад
Holy crap dude! I love your work with Band Geek, you guys do a great job replicating timeless prog staples. Nice seeing you here
@AndyGrazianoNYC
@AndyGrazianoNYC 3 года назад
@@krishdutta5466 thank you my friend, we love to play them!
@AndyGrazianoNYC
@AndyGrazianoNYC 3 года назад
@@krishdutta5466 I love watching these kind of videos - seeing what people think of the music that blew my mind 25 years ago!
@donkensler
@donkensler 3 года назад
I too am a recent convert to Doug's channel (just showed up on my feed). Absolutely amazing! I love having a classical-music maven dissecting boomer rock for me.
@ineedanameforthischannel419
And Doug you make these even more enjoyable! You are a very talented person . Really enjoy your analyzations.
@donrobbie1461
@donrobbie1461 3 года назад
Also try ELP's album - Pictures at an Exhibition based fairly closely on Mussorgsky's suite
@ydoesgooglesuck1960
@ydoesgooglesuck1960 3 года назад
The Sage was one of my first favorite acoustic pieces I attempted. As it is way cool
@nightwishlover8913
@nightwishlover8913 3 года назад
Another vote here for the masterpiece that is Pictures.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 3 года назад
Omnibus studio version taken from The Return of the Manticore: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U1ZomrLkAKE.html
@jns8393
@jns8393 3 года назад
@John Ashtone Seems Keith Emerson wanted to arrange the piece after having seeing an orchestral performance of it and so it was adapted rather than a straight copy. Also, while parts of the Ravel/Mussorgsky Pictures were not included, ELP added their own compositions, The Sage, Blues Variation and The Curse of Baba Yaga.
@florazaken-greenberg1697
@florazaken-greenberg1697 3 года назад
Have not heard that in decades. I seem to recall that "The gate of Kiev" was on it. Tremendous.
@arpeggioblues5924
@arpeggioblues5924 3 года назад
HE DOES PLAY several keyboard simultaneously... FInd a concert of them playing..
@davep8221
@davep8221 3 года назад
Arpeggio Blues -- when I would skim through keyboard player back in the 1900s, I would see questions to KE like "what sequencer did you use on and the answer was almost always "my left hand."
@smitlag
@smitlag 3 года назад
Keith had great independence of his hands. Which is an art to guys whom simply play the piano. The rules of what hands do what go out the window if you are a "real keyboard player". You have a rhythm section not to mention in his case an amazing rhythm section. So your left hand becomes as much of a lead instrument as your right. Now days I routinely transpose zones on my keyboards to maybe 2 or three octaves higher to allow my left hand to play certain parts. Keith also was one of the few keyboardist that played passages that typically concert pianists play. Lots of guys have quick right hands. But start throwing octaves, 6ths and thirds, repeated notes on the same key and their chops dissapear. Another guy whom was incredible and that had Keith as a fan was Mark Robertson of the band Cairo. I don't know what he has been doing over the last several years. But he was an awesome player.
@smitlag
@smitlag 3 года назад
@@4-3_Land Very little. Of course they did overdubs primarily on the guitar parts and vocals. Keith really didn't use that many keyboards back then. You hear organ, moog synthesizer and piano. He did have custom preset hand wired modules on the moog. And he did use the step sequencers occaisionally. The bass lines on Karnevil 9 and the steel drums on the part 2 of the same song was done on the minimoog. Now in Trilogy obviously there is some sequencing on the last part after the piano and vocal part. The person who never gets the credit he is due is Greg Lake. He was a damn good bassist and guitarist yet his name almost never comes up when people discuss greats like Chris Squire.
2 года назад
Sueño cumplido, después de casi medio siglo. Analizar con un músico de tomo y lomo; y con pentagrama en mano, cada parte de esta sorprendente pieza. Ojala en estuviese disponible en español. Congratulations , thanks.
@loftlegacy
@loftlegacy 2 года назад
I once met Greg Lake about 17 years ago. He was such a nice man and very warm and friendly.
@pablobirbrayer7622
@pablobirbrayer7622 3 года назад
Hello everyone. Progressive rock is in my opinion the best thing that rock has given since its inception.... Doug would be great if you could review songs from these bands: Yes, Genesis, ELP, Jethro, Floyd, Camel, King Crimson, Mike Oldfield, Alan Parsons, Wakeman, Asia, Premiata Formeria Marconi, Focus, Marillion, Moody Blues, Arena, Pendragon, Rush, ELO, Supertramp, UK.... greatings from buenos aires...
@barneymiller6204
@barneymiller6204 3 года назад
And don't forget Frank Zappa! Maybe start with RDNZL.
@andreasoberndorfer5476
@andreasoberndorfer5476 3 года назад
You forgot the best Prog band ever: Gentle Giant.
@ivanhenriqueroberto1970
@ivanhenriqueroberto1970 2 года назад
@@andreasoberndorfer5476 Gentle Giant is unforgetable. Indeed the best Band.
@ladykoh4678
@ladykoh4678 2 года назад
I agree. In the late 1960's and 1970's, I had about 12 favorite bands, turns out they were all Prog rock!
@stanhegeman8751
@stanhegeman8751 2 года назад
I would respectfully add Stomu Yamashta’s “Go” to the list. Very Zen and circular. On a lesser note, albeit G G is my fav, I truly enjoy Gino Vanelli. Always enjoyed brother Joe’s writing.
@lucianfick2218
@lucianfick2218 3 года назад
In "The Battlefield: where Greg Lake is soloing on electric guitar between verses- that mellow baseline/progression reminds me of something Pink Floyd would do later on on "DSOTM". Even the bluesy B.B. King guitar licks are classic David Gilmour.
@JohnBrooking4
@JohnBrooking4 3 года назад
That part did remind me a little of the Pink Floyd sound.
@kathyratino962
@kathyratino962 2 года назад
He's actually playing a duet with himself while playing bass. Tough to replicate live, unfortunately, because it sounds phenomenal.
@hostile177
@hostile177 3 года назад
My brain still triggers all the 8-track breaks. 😳
@mitchdematoff9671
@mitchdematoff9671 2 года назад
I love this piece. Emerson is definately my favorite keyboard player of the Prog era and then some. Tarkus really shows his brilliance as a composer and major keyboardist / improviser. Greg Lake and Carl Palmer are not to be overlooked as well. I've played Eruption, and as a keyboard player, I could tell you; it took some serious practice to get it down and understand it. An ELP suggestion for you would be from their third album, Trilogy. The songs Trilogy, The Endless Enigma and Abbaddons Bolero are great works.
@TheRobertJohnsen
@TheRobertJohnsen 3 года назад
One of the most amazing groups of all time.
@hunakosdem
@hunakosdem 3 года назад
OMG, NOW I understand why I love this music since 35 years! Thanks Doug! I first heard this piece 35 years ago. I was very young, a kid really. This music captivated me. It was totally out of place and still is today. This is super interesting to actually understand the way how chords and harmonics are "engineered" to make me feel what I felt for the last 35 years.
@randykling138
@randykling138 Год назад
First time I heard ANY ELP was at their concert when I was 17, the first song being Tarkus. It made an impression that I can still re-feel today.
@razorback0z
@razorback0z 2 года назад
My Dad sat me down and put this on the record player when I was about 8. He handed me the cover which I stared at while it played. Later I discovered tripping. Very little difference as it turns out. ELP, pure genius.
@originalsynthesist2268
@originalsynthesist2268 3 года назад
The truest "Aquatarkus" has to be the extended improv from Welcome Back My Friends-- .
@steveglanzmann94
@steveglanzmann94 3 года назад
I listened to "Tarkus" this week, too. I hadn't listened to it for a couple of years. Emerson was intense. Really excellent Set playing by Carl Palmer.
@nikolajkrarup8750
@nikolajkrarup8750 Год назад
My all time favourite ELP tune. I have listened to it thosand of times for 50 years. I never get tired of it.
@CharlesAustin
@CharlesAustin 3 года назад
Beyond awesomeness.. so much to put together.. so thanks for this !! Such chops.. !! Such a deep talent !! Such an effort !! Such respect !! (Great job)..
@johannsebastianb4ss
@johannsebastianb4ss 3 года назад
I just discover this song like one week ago and after watching the score I can't explain how this makes me feel, It's just a masterpiece, ELP did a great great job, I must listen to them more. Good video and analysis Doug! A greeting from a 17 years old Argentinian ;)
@fatheroftwo852
@fatheroftwo852 3 года назад
Highly suggest you give Karn Evil 9 a listen, 30 minutes might be daunting, but it is well worth a listen. Easily my favourite piece by ELP, so full of ideas! If you want more time signature and compositional madness, I also suggest Egg and Magma! Egg if you love jazz, Magma if you enjoy more folk or opera. Hope you enjoy the suggestions :D
@johannsebastianb4ss
@johannsebastianb4ss 3 года назад
@@fatheroftwo852 Thanks! I'll listen to everything that you suggested! ;)
@Bassman2353
@Bassman2353 3 года назад
Seeing Tarkus live was a blast - the second ELP concert I saw. From the first, "Take a Pebble" was a beautiful piece I've loved from the beginning. It takes a journey in just over 12 minutes. Their music got bigger and bigger through the years, but this was a lovely gem.
@ladykoh4678
@ladykoh4678 3 года назад
"Take a Pebble" is one of my favorites from ELP. So glad I was able to see them play live.
@JonGoldstein1954
@JonGoldstein1954 2 года назад
Saw Tarkus performed at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center. Great concert.
@darrylmars
@darrylmars Год назад
As an old rocker still doing this music sometimes, ELP always gets a "Wow, what was that?" Beautiful.
@Gusrikh1
@Gusrikh1 Год назад
I keep coming back to this! Phenomenal piece of work.
@bissmertin
@bissmertin 3 года назад
Fun fact: the band's label was 'Manticore records'.
@True_Rarity
@True_Rarity 3 года назад
ELP was my biggest inspiration to become a musician. All three members have made such an impact on my life words cannot describe how thankful I am that I discovered them
@michaelromeo4601
@michaelromeo4601 Год назад
Man,I so enjoy hearing the music from my youth explaining how complicated and fun it is to play and listen to, and watching someone hearing it for the first time
@richardmedina4765
@richardmedina4765 Год назад
I first heard this 40 years ago and I've been looking for exactly this explanation of what's going on - thank you!
@trumps-not-rightfor-us5603
@trumps-not-rightfor-us5603 3 года назад
When this album was released Tarkus ELP.. I was about 14 years old ran to the local record store 1812 overture to be exact.. and bought the album blindly without ever hearing it.. the price for this vinyl when first released on crotillion was $2.99 no tax.. had discovered ELP as they had released their first album which is referred to as the dove.. and it always bought all of their music without ever hearing it first.. if you can believe it and it's true crotillion was released in Europe first for these guys.. so as ELP released their first album the dove in Europe in late 1968.. a friend from London sent me three copies on vinyl.. how to off the presses and had yet to be released in the United States for approximately 8 months.. big local radio FM to be exact to play these pieces.. but they said they could not because the album had yet to be released in the United States.. fell in love with Keith Emerson's pieces and recolorations of this works from day one.. their first album the dove had a little something special on it which was called tank.. which featured Carl Palmer on percussion OMG one of the most fantastic pieces I had ever heard at the ripe old age of 14.. wore out copy after copy after copy listening to tank.. over the years up through 1974 whenever the band played in concert live whether it be Florida New York Chicago even Dallas Texas we all gathered as many people as we could fit in a car a van of Volkswagen and drove to those locations to see them play.. the thing is is that they could never and we're never able to reproduce tank as it is heard on the first album the dove album in the same way that it was originally published on the vinyls.. the band themselves though produced phenomenal live performances featuring Keith Emerson on keyboards and knives Carl Palmer was a wizard on percussion and fast really fast and accurate, Greg lake on acoustic guitar was top notch acoustic rock and head of voice that would Pierce.. oh those days are missed so much when concerts were $3.50 $4.50 and $5.50 per ticket at each performance no matter where you were in the United States.. if you look hard enough you will find some really fine live unpublished recordings in certain places on the internet.. enjoy devour and repeat.
@Subtilior74
@Subtilior74 3 года назад
Gentle Giant: any song by them would be worth it.
@jeffsmith8849
@jeffsmith8849 3 года назад
Good suggestion.
@sophiaperennis2360
@sophiaperennis2360 3 года назад
I would pick the Moog Fugue as a start.
@DavidHartley88
@DavidHartley88 3 года назад
“On Reflection” from “Free Hand”. FUGUE !!
@grahamhowes6904
@grahamhowes6904 3 года назад
Cogs in cogs
@joemartucci4786
@joemartucci4786 3 года назад
Love Gentle Giant saw them open for Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick tour in 71 or 72 in Buffalo.
@steveg219
@steveg219 2 года назад
Thank you, great piece and wonderful to read along with the score and to hear your insights
@Mondo1957
@Mondo1957 2 года назад
Doug, I'm not musically trained but enjoyed your presentation of Tarkus so much. I have listened to this piece so many time and have been able to see it performed by ELP on four occasions. Your views and explanations have made it all the more enjoyable. Thank you so much.
@pamnorris8954
@pamnorris8954 3 года назад
That was utterly breathtaking. I sat down at my keyboard and played that last bit with your help! I have loved that since I bought that record in the 70s! Thank you Doug!
@wellingtonramos5777
@wellingtonramos5777 3 года назад
Hey Doug: Thick as a Brick by the wonderful Jethro Tull. What do tou think that sound?
@RogwinMusic
@RogwinMusic 3 года назад
best "rock" album ever made......TAAB
@judydinallo3490
@judydinallo3490 3 года назад
what about benefit ??????
@juanignacioquesada
@juanignacioquesada 3 года назад
I suggested TAAB on another video. I think it'd be wonderful to hear from Doug. Although it's way longer than "long" Fridays standards
@noelle3551
@noelle3551 3 года назад
I remember buying that album when it first came out!! A real classic
@mariosangermano5709
@mariosangermano5709 3 года назад
I vote for Jethro Tull album, Songs from the Wood.
@calgarywino
@calgarywino 3 года назад
It's great fun and very instructive to read along with the performance, and your insights are fascinating. Thank you.
@vesosobot4094
@vesosobot4094 3 года назад
My goodness … thank you for doing this … brilliant insights … totally genius composition and totally genius commentary! Great joy!
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