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Classical Sax Mouthpiece for Jazz 

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Let's settle a debate with this video. Can we use a classical sax mouthpiece to play Jazz??
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@danielclermont2680
@danielclermont2680 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate this video a lot. My wisest band instructor told me first - jazz is about feel, articulation and phrasing, not about the mouthpiece. I have been fortunate to own and play some of the most expensive mouthpieces out there for Alto and Tenor, including models oriented to Jazz, Pop / Contemporary, R&B, Rock and Funk... as well as Classical mouthpieces. I'm middle-aged now and don't have time to mess around changing my setup all the time, so I find myself grabbing my Selmer S-80 C* / C** on both horns! I like the dark sound and the intonation is locked in. For a lot of advancing students, simply switching to a Jazz cut reed on their existing mouthpiece will do a lot and you don't need to automatically go buy a Meyer for Alto or a Link for Tenor - just because. Thanks!
@ed.z.
@ed.z. Год назад
We are fortunate to have you on RU-vid. No joke, you are the real deal. Your education, professional experience, and teaching skills are top notch. Thank you so much for your fantastic videos.
@gabrielsternsax
@gabrielsternsax Год назад
Best saxophone content on RU-vid
@Sirvalorsax
@Sirvalorsax Год назад
😁
@bobpremecz5429
@bobpremecz5429 Год назад
What a lovely rendition of Debussy's Clair de Lune. Love the noodling. Great advice, as always!
@cookieman136
@cookieman136 Год назад
I have an old hard rubber Yanagisawa tenor mp. I’ve played classical, jazz, rock, worship, funk…. So glad I found that mouthpiece. It does it all.
@Craig2760
@Craig2760 Год назад
I used a Selmer D Soloist for EVERYTHING years ago. Just different reed selection for the gig.
@zhest07
@zhest07 Год назад
Hello! I like the sound of the classical tenor sax mouthpiece in jazz. It is so tasty. Like a human voice
@AcevedoDMA
@AcevedoDMA Год назад
Good video! Basically students need to change the mouthpiece and change their approach when going between styles. I find getting students to change the approach is the biggest challenge.
@manuelrecaredorodriguezpol5404
Beautiful sound, brother
@Sirvalorsax
@Sirvalorsax Год назад
Thanks
@Alex-mg6vn
@Alex-mg6vn Год назад
On alto and tenor, I can get a decent jazz tone by just slightly adjusting the embouchure. The other way around, jazz mouthpiece in a classical setting, is harder to pull off convincingly. Interestingly, it's reversed for soprano and bari, I can get away with a metalite for classical but my dedicated classical setups can't quite cut it.
@shealinbanta4169
@shealinbanta4169 7 месяцев назад
I had this question too. I do have a classical mouthpiece and I played jazz on it, and it still sounds good to jazz when I play it. But I would get a better sound if I used am actual jazz mouthpiece.
@dpete8995
@dpete8995 Год назад
“You can eat spaghetti with a hammer… if ya want to…” That’s a good one!
@raffaeleamenta0
@raffaeleamenta0 5 месяцев назад
I play tenor sax with a modern Soloist E mouthpiece. I use it for classical and jazz (if I play jazz a D'addario Select Jazz reed will work very well). I also have a D'addario Jazz select D9M mouthpiece that I use if I need it in very loud situations. But in reality I almost always play Soloist.
@brainformer2007
@brainformer2007 7 месяцев назад
I also like Vintage Reborn series a lot! I want a new alto and the BRUTE option Cannonball has is mind-blowing )
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
For classical saxophone, just use any hard rubber Otto Link with a narrow tip, for alto, use a 5 or 5* tip opening, for tenor use a 5*, 6, or 6*.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
In the USAF Bands, for classical, I played an old Otto Link slant signature Tone Edge, with a narrow tip opening, it was a 5 on alto, (not a 5*)
@stewart950
@stewart950 Год назад
Lol the fancy spaghetti fork
@rom-ci
@rom-ci Год назад
Sirvalorsax Thanks for the advice about how to develop the sound but I don't get anything about this: 1) Is your mouthpiece soloist tenor E for classical?. but, Soloist is consider an hybrid mouthpiece (it's facing) 2) and opening E(2.20mm) is a HUGE opening ,it's like a 5 jazz opening , can you do the same with a soloist C*? &or maybe a S90) I think that soloist mouthpiece is more for jazz. The smallest S90 tenor sax mouthpiece for classical is 1.60mm opening and facing 24mm. Can you do the same exercise with that small opening and large facing ? 3 ) your sound is like a smooth jazz, almost classical with the huge opening and large facing. I am trying to understand al this
@nickbarrow2805
@nickbarrow2805 Год назад
I am **NOT** Sirvalorsax, and you didn't ask for my advice. But maybe I can give some insight. I personally use a Selmer Concept on Tenor, obviously for classical, but for Jazz too. Both Ballads, and Dixieland, New Orleans Style Jazz. I prefer the slower stuff, because it really lets the tone shine, but faster stuff is no issue. I have no issue in either projecting or cutting back, and it works great. I have a Metal Selmer Jazz piece, D opening, which has good tone, but is hard to play quietly. I also need to drop my reed strength considerably when I'm playing it. Probably a skill issue, but needless to say, it doesn't come out often. I will say that, from what I've read, the Concept is actually similar to a D or an E size opening (2.10 mm), but the expressiveness and tone are fantastic. I've used reeds from 2.0 Rico to 4.5 D'Addario Reserve, and they all work wonderfully (though, of course, the 4.5's are a bit of work.) My main reeds for BOTH Classical and Jazz are the Boston Sax Shop 3.5's or 4.0's. Great clarity, good articulation, and easy low notes. Win-win. Now, for the advice that actually pertains to you: I haven't played much C* on Tenor. I have a friend that absolutely kills it in *any* style on his C*. Insane classical tone, ripping jazz, he does it all. The C* is pretty versatile, I've found. I play it exclusively on Bari. If you're having trouble, remember that new reeds are always much, much cheaper than a new mouthpiece. I still recommend Boston Sax Shop. I hope this helps, and you find the sound you're searching for.
@Sirvalorsax
@Sirvalorsax Год назад
I have never felt like this was a hybrid jazz/classical mouthpiece and I have only ever approached playing it like it is a classical mouthpiece. I think you may be thinking of the Joe Henderson short shank Soloist that everyone associates with jazz because of him but it really is not a jazz mouthpiece at all. All of this can be done on a C* which I use to play in college for classical. I have many videos reviewing mouthpieces where my sound is much different than what's in this video. I hope that can clear things up. Thanks 😊
@stewart950
@stewart950 Год назад
Next do jazz setup for classical
@Sirvalorsax
@Sirvalorsax Год назад
Great suggestion
@Zach_CR
@Zach_CR Год назад
In my high school jazz band I used a classical mouthpiece because my sound overpowered our Alto 1 😅
@kafenwar
@kafenwar 6 месяцев назад
THIS is how a tenor saxophone should sound IMO.
@JeniTehan
@JeniTehan Год назад
Oh man now I want spaghetti
@Sirvalorsax
@Sirvalorsax Год назад
Lol
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
great video!!
@stewart950
@stewart950 Год назад
i like the edge i get from a jazz setup
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 Год назад
Imagine that 5 saxophones in the section have a similar edge; playing together, 5 of you would sound horrible: the harmony is not sustainable, it breaks down. But when soloing, with only rhythm behind, the edge is admissable, and it does help enrich the sound of the soloist, give it a bit more expressiveness.
@stewart950
@stewart950 Год назад
When I'm not playing lead part i use my classical setup
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
Dave Sanborn uses an extreme clarinet like embouchure angle for his metal Dukoff mouthpiece.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 Год назад
Sanborn plays at a steep angle because he loves playing high baffle mouthpieces. He is sending a very narrow but speedy airflow down the horn; high baffle mouthpiece is accelerating the flow, something like shallow rapids accelerate river flow. But if you raise the saxophone to play it more horizontally, you let more air in, airflow velocity drops, and the high baffle will choke up, blocking the sound or producing horrible squeaks.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
@@zvonimirtosic6171 He plays out the side of his mouth with an extreme angle, because he had polio as a child and could not hold the sax properly.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 Год назад
@@grantkoeller8911 That handicap forced him to choose the setup that can exploit the handicap, and still make music. Similarly, I had a series of pneumonias that nearly destroyed my left lung, but playing woodwinds helped me exercise my other lung to compensate, and stay in better shape.
@grantkoeller8911
@grantkoeller8911 Год назад
@@zvonimirtosic6171 So glad woodwinds helped your lungs!
@marka8274
@marka8274 Год назад
Do you have the sheet music for Clair de Lune ?
@martindalmasi5340
@martindalmasi5340 Год назад
Selmer Soloist: Yes, Joe Henderson, Kenny Garrett.
@AlvinPhanMusic
@AlvinPhanMusic Год назад
Hey Sirvalorsax, love your content! I just posted a classical tenor recital over on my channel, be cool if you'd checked me out. Love the topic of this video had me thinking about my setup. I think a classical setup is very doable as they tend to be very stable. but definitely a jazz setup helps in having a sound that can cut a big band. In my opinion, I think James houlik sounds a bit jazzy for classical tenor with a big sound that cuts a full orchestra or concert band.
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 Год назад
I would just go back to a Yamaha 4C or 5C mpc with a harder reed than what I’m using for jazz.
@ZEZINHO-w5u
@ZEZINHO-w5u Год назад
😁
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 25 дней назад
Any difference between Classical music and Jazz music is artificial and should be ignored.
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