Classical Violinists Reviewing Ben Shapiro's Violin Playing with Facts and Logic 

Me who hasn't played violin since middle school: mm yes very dry, too mechanical

Lmao

this made me laugh

Lol this neeeds more likees

You, me... same

I'm not sure if I've ever laughed so hard after reading a comment. I expect this when I read comments under Ben's videos but this just caught me off guard. Thanks for the laugh!

Wait i dont get it :(

LOL

@@amorphoushuman_ Ben in almost any debate mentions that his wife is a doctor. So it is a meme.

Ahhhh hahahahahaha

Yeah, i don't like the guy, but he's not shit. He has things to improve, and TwoSet was here to point them out, but it was never meant to be something like a roast

@James Jeffrey ......ernie.....?

I think it would be fun to have Ben fly them over and give him lessons, filming before and after videos!

@James Jeffrey what the fuck is wrong with this guy 😂

@James Jeffrey A bit ironic

So true

Me too. And I don't even play an instrument!

Your comment was... beautiful

@David Russell Yep. The dream if perfection is very real for violinists.

@David Russell No student ever went to a masterclass hoping to be told they were fine. That would be death. When you stop learning, you die.

you should feel more secure after negative feedback becouse then you know zhats wrong anf zhat to work on.

they com;e across as m;ean/ the sam;e type of people in/ m;usic shops that m;ake you feel in/ferior when you start tryin/g out a guitar sm;ug sn/ob-b-y there's n/ot m;uch positivity here people like this m;ade m;e n/ot wan/t to learn/ m;usic theory

Right??? I would never expected to hear a man in a kippah play Ave Maria. Next up...Wagner?

Was expecting the Spanish Inquisition?

Hey man... he knows if he screws up there will be an inquisition

Wasn't Bach Lutheran?

sheepsheep yes he was.

I was going to like your comment but it's on 69 so...

I agree. That was a fairly easy, I'd say intermediate arrangement and he got a beautiful tone out of the instrument and expressed real emotion, not just technical excellence.

Ben is clearly, barely classically trained, from a classically trained professional. He has the skill of someone who dabbles, with a good ear for intervals-hence he plays pretty well in tune. And if you vehemently disagree, then list his violin teachers. Most of us have to have a pedigree to show that we are trained correctly-though his playing is a dead giveaway as well. In the end, Ben being classically trained isn’t the point. Thank you Two-Set for your two-“sense” to help out/guide all of us in our musical journey, or enlighten us in our musical ignorance!

@@tinalettieritechnical excellence? You clearly do not have a background in playing an instrument like the violin, or a very good ear to know what technical excellence is. Not appropriate to comment when we don’t know what we are looking for. Just because you like what you hear, or just because you like Ben Shapiro, doesn’t mean his playing is good violin playing.

@@AmysMusic7 I actually did take violin and piano and my violin teacher, a Julliard grad student ear tested me before she took me on. I have almost perfect pitch. I scored an 86 on my first National Piano Teachers (or whatever it's called) exam at the end of my first year of study. In fact, I could play by ear but I was forbidden from doing so, yes, FORBIDDEN by the technique nazis. Ben's personality has nothing to do with my understanding of music. For an amateur, he did well but I never said he was technically excellent. In fact, I said the opposite. The arrangement he played is quite simple actually and I'd put it at advanced beginner level. We all start someplace. Yehudi Menuin quit taking lessons because his teachers were insisting on unnatural body movements and postures which is what I was talking about. I took piano for adults in a college and the professor who also taught at Westminster told us, a missed note can be fixed while learning a piece but rhythm is everything. Without it, you don't have a melody. Having to go back to fix a note breaks the rhythm and anyone with an ear know they missed it and can go back and fix it once they understand the piece.

AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE A VIOLIN PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND AAAAHHHH

Late reply but I’m pretty sure that was on purpose. It’s in reference to Billy Joel’s “Piano Man”

@@Limbow1908 yeah I thought that too lol

Sing me a song I'm the piano maaaaannnnnn

Andrew Cox well he’s also been playing since childhood

Constructive criticism

Quicker Den 14 his family could pay for training by one of the most famous violinists in LA. This means that not only is money not an issue but also that it was never going to be one

Instructions unclear. Ended up broke and playing on a kazoo.

@Doctor Drake Instructions unclear, dick stuck in famous

Psssh flute is poop, play a good instrument like me

@@Sebzthesmooth Cello

@@hannorasmusholtiegel6044 psssh

Ich bin dumm und habe keinen Plan, aber *y e s*

Imagine not playing strings :/ contrabass gang

Hes no amatuer just out of practice

He played since a child, but obviously he doesn’t have time to put in 40 hours a day of practice.

@@rigamarooh amateur as in this isn't his profession. So he is an amateur technically and it's no dis on him.

@@my_cousin_mose9782 yeah technically even olympic athletes are amateurs. Professional means you get paid and clearly Ben doesnt get paid professionally as a violinist. 😂

@@Marlaina yea, the word "amateur" has been stigmatized as unskilled, but it just mean he doesn't do it professionally.

Maggie Albrecht I’m sure Ben Shapiro himself would wear that shirt. 😂😂

I agree, can we please get this merch

I will buy 5!!!

Cries in Swing Jazz.

We need this Merch!

This comment actually made me lol

Hahahahaha😂😂😂😂

Im- ahahahahhahahaaha

A Piccolo player: “What? That sounded completely fine to me!” (if people don’t get the joke, a piccolo is really, really hard to tune.)

sharpiro sound like a Italian word for some kind of technique

He said he enjoyed it

@@jd0604 WHERE, WHEN ?????

Asian genes... 😄

30 isnt old age

Yes! Loved it!

Probably because he can actually somewhat play and it’s not fake Chinese violin acting 😂😂

Yeah they got a chance to get into the technical details

@@jamesstrader4063 yeah that makes sense!

I agree. I like the feedback they have. Since I’m self learning the violin, this is the kind of tips and critiques that will help me improve my sound.

I agree! I wish they did more of these 😊

I think Ben is probably good enough to avoid violin 101 stuff. So they’re doing the next level critiques.

Like figure skating if you can't play technically then you really not that good and never will be. When Ben sticks his neck out attacking others then his life is not off limits anymore then when he debates with fake information.

@@drwatsonca6945 Since you decided to get inappropriately political at the end, I'll just say that he doesn't attack anyone any harder than people on the other side of the political divide and his information is certainly not fake. Watching him destroy people on the other side in debates is quite fun to watch. Living under the side that he destroys and watching it kill our economy and society is not fun to watch. That being said and refocusing on playing an instrument, with proper critiquing and practice, he can get better if he chooses. I highly doubt that he resents receiving CONTRUCTIVE criticism which is what the video is obviously offering him.

Maybe with the Sibelius at 3Mil?

Ave Maria at 2.5!

It would be a good encore for 3 mil Sibelius drop, indeed

I kinda wanted to avoid hearing ave maria after hearing its eerie version 🤣 yet here i am

Eh, Ave Maria is best expressed with vocals.

Yeah, they set it up like it was going to be a roast, and instead it was just a critique. I thought they were pretty fair, and I appreciated it.

Lol. I was actually eating a bowl of cereals while watching this. Needed to refill my bowl half-way through.

This point is ironic to me, because every time TwoSet says “simmering” They burn it to a crisp (usually) But this time, they went directly to “roast” But they “simmered” the music If simmering were proffesional advice...

waitt... does that mean you cry cereals

Right? That was really wholesome

This should become merch

Nah fam, this is my performance in bed...tense...abrupt...fast

Darko807 who the fuck asked

Darko807 and stop liking your own comment

I don't know the guy but it's art. You can tell a lot about a person just from their art. Like it's actually scary how much someone can tell how you are and what you feel just from looking at your art.

LOL came down just for your comment

Andrew Kristensen it’s pretty funny

Andrew Kristensen ???

when eddy and brett started to get blurry I immediately scrolled for a comment like this xD

LOL! Was thinking exactly the same thing during the video.

Music is a pure expression of the sport after all

Oml same 😂

yup

a love story. coming to cinemas next summer.

Chris Spencer rekt

I am so glad someone mentioned Shapiro is married to a woman who is a doctor. Yeah

this should be the title of the video

What the title should have been

His marital status has yet to be proven.

He’s been playing since age 5, and learned from the fourth ranked violinist in the world. He’s like 30 some thing now, he’s probably a bit out of practice. And I don’t think he’s uncomfortable on camera considering he is a talk show host.

Yes. Talking on camera is definitely different from playing on camera. Playing is like being naked in front of everyone. Your soul is exposed lol

Too bad he’s a giant racist

@@short600 no

@@short600 except if you actually watched him you would know he’s not. maybe you do and you’re just brain dead. you don’t have to like him but don’t accuse him of something he’s not

Welcome to the TwoSet community! :)

What,really?didherush? ijustthinkhewaspreparing,cuz,yougottabereadytoattackthosenotesbeforethewholesonggoessouthfromthebeggining,nextsong,nextvideo,thanks.

He's a master debate champion. Used to rushing to fit time constraints.

@@gminer03 the majority of his "wins" are in college campuses where he can debate people who are literal college aged kids and havent had the time to develop proper arguments as well as him being able to control the flow of the "debate" and rapidly shift subjects rather than a proper debate with a moderator or judge

K Nakajima no actually suiehvdgehwnislmsrgrrnekdnbhhehhkdjkügsheiejhèbdhxbssbvçhsiwkshgéhskahgqåndnejedįsbwn Facts don’t care about your feelings

Ophelia De Beaufort Hasty generalization. You cite two examples of Shapiro doing a poor job debating and assume that he is a “rubbish debater” based on only two examples.

I mean, he is an ashkenazi jew, so is weirdly appropiate.

😂🤣...thanks you two....that was a good laugh.

If people only knew how funny this is...the levels of irony (if one knows anything about Shapiro's political biases).

That's not surprising. Most jews are taught in russian music disciplines. While Asians are in americans and using franco-belgian bow hold.

... idk which bow hold i use... Everytime i get a new teacher I also get a new bow hold...

Me too

A masterclass would be awesome

@@wuzz I know, I'm just speaking about something like this, like a review but of us playing, didn't want to make it look like that the masterclass part is like refering to what they did here

Yes.

I would like that a lot. I mean if you don't do competitions or videos you kind of always get criticized by the same people and I think it would be nice to hear what other people think.

I kind of hate that after I'd gotten into playing guitar and relearning theory (was a saxophonist many years ago) because I can hear ever little flaw in someone else's playing and it sometimes takes me away from the live music experience.

nephyril what a burden that is

for some reason I read this in a Russian accent

@@omgvague Same here. Sometimes I manage to get over it in time to enjoy the rest of the performance, but other times...

@@omgvague That must be hard tbh. I have a philosophy that the show is only good if you fuck up something lmao, that moment were you don't even care if the note is perfect because you're feeling it. But I have seem perfect shows that felt just as good, is more like a joke I tell my friends because often perfect performances sound so sterile.

the wife is a doctor is it a meme? I never saw it around XD

andrea piro it’s because he always finds away to mention it 😂😂

I'm so mad about how hard I laughed over this comment

@@micahbost4438 lol I've seen some of Shapiro videos and I didn't noticed it^^

@@WastedTalent83 You have to check out some older videos, usually related to healthcare, he is not doing it any more.

Same

Lol same

So true

truth

I still think it sounds pretty good. Much better than anything I could do. What really killed it for me was the tempo inconsistencies. No rushing!

Yed! Good comment!

Yeah, great comment. This was really educational. Hope they do some more with other players.

Yesterday, I learned the word "edutainment" and immediately thought of TwoSet, I think this is the best term that one could use to describe the type of videos they make.

Exactly what I thought. This guy must be so happy now to have twoset's opinion and hints about his playing!

Completely agree. Don't get me wrong, roasts of actors shredding are funny, but this video is interesting because the stuff they are pointing out is mostly stuff I haven't seen them talk much about before! It's a level above "that bow's not straight".

Me playing the drums is just me angrily beating the same bars over and over again slowly getting dirges to insanity as I beat my drums to pulp

@@thegloriousmorious9755 After that wonderful description, I definitely want to see a video of you playing !! 😂

@Ma Pa drummers getting all the fame? Have you heard of lead singers?!

@@nuttynoah5342 My friend next to me is crying in E. Bass :v

@Ma Pa my bad

オタク eventhoughhewouldhavedeserveedit

@@authenticbaguette6673 im pretty sure they wouldn't dare. Lol

Magnus Maximus ling ling insurance doesn't cover being assaulted by ben shapiro fans :P

@@authenticbaguette6673 Lolol..... Nice one.... 🤣

They held back I guess.

Absolutely spot on. Their ability to articulate such subtle techniques is fascinating and humbling. I grew up playing the clarinet and had to tolerate some soul crushing violin playing at the high school level. Many years later, I witnessed a professional performance and was moved to tears. It was hard to understand, objectively, why it sounded so much better than what I'd heard before. This video helped open my eyes and ears to what goes into such high level playing. You get the sense that they're just getting started, too. Amazing.

I like how Ben Shapiro playing the violin is a controversial topic

Very well said.

One billion percent agree. I love Shapiro, and love Two Set. You can tell they don't particularly like him, but they are good sports with their critique.

@@joaquimgianini1234 to be fair, it is hard to see past the parts of a person that you severely dislike and recognize what talents they possess outside of whatever causes you grief. I wouldn't say him playing is controversial, just that he is a highly controversial human and everything attached to him is something that many would scrutinize just because they can't stand who he is. It shows a certain amount of maturity to be able to move past that and give someone credit where it is due.

@James Mitchell don't know how I'm a simp. I don't even watch Shapiro. I was saying after you get married and your life gets full practice takes a backseat. Not everything has to be political. I hate the republican and the democrats equally. But thanks for your comment. Hop you hav e great day.

And he attended law school. I can't imagine that he did much practicing.

@Vic Rattlehead his husband

@Vic Rattlehead yes and she has a perfectly dry p

@@noodlearg9745 cringe uneducated RU-vid viewer

Mimì Monbebe the consistency lol

FRANSISCA NADYA the love between mic and camera became deeper as the time goes 😂

They are Musicians. Not videographers 😂😂

Emma Chan 😂

Yeah, I love them but the out of focus camera gets on my nerves haha They could either hide the Mic or fix the focus to be consistent, it's so easy! 😂 they might be the only >2M channel that has focus issues😂 but they mean a lot to me, I love them :)

I SECOND THAT! #twosetviolin SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

I thought he said rhythm doesn’t care about your feeings

@@danareyes-norton3347 he did

pls

Dana Reyes-Norton i think he said both, he said rhythm a bit later

They have great chemistry!

I'm an amateur musician, but my thoughts exactly. I really like these types of episodes when they talk about the "technical" stuff!

That's nice to see this enthusiasm from a non-musician! I thought that actually these things could be a little bit boring, but it's nice to see we're all on the se Page

Alternative alternative title: Ben Shapiros playing gets checked with FACTS and LOGIC.

Masterclass from twoset violin

@@lakshmisruthi4542 Yes - another vote for masterclass.

They just did.

Even though he’s been playing longer than either of them have been alive.

Yes!!!

@Larbitos O_o "i don't know even know" °3°

only merch item i would ever buy.

@Larbitos O_o uhm so... I guess i cant explain it, because I'm not sure which of the two possible meanings is true ;-;

Ben Shapiro is famous for saying “Facts don’t care about your feelings” when discussing racist, homophobic and ignorant things as though he is speaking from a place of logic. They were making fun of him with his own saying with his intonation.

*and you’re the advanced kid*

@@babysushi953 and you're ling ling*

Lololol yeah I noticed too 😂

Well, it's not called TwoSetVIOLIN for nothing... ^^

Did I tell you that his dad went to music school?

@Stephen Vojta Yeah ok, but did you know his wife is a doctor?

This is the comment train I was looking for 😂

Yes, but did you know that his wife went to medical school and is *ahem* a _doctor?_

But you’re all ignoring something even more important. She is a *doctor* . Not just Ben’s wife, but *a doctor* . Honestly, people, do try to focus. These details are vital.

Truly precious

Thanks🥰

thank u for doing god's work

@@jojomilmil4227 twas my pleasure

I can only give you a like but you deserve an award

Ben Shapiro LOGICALLY INCORPORATES newfound FACTS in to his immense knowledge base

😂🤣😂

It'll never happen. XD

He actually already shared the video on his Twitter feed, much to his credit! And acknowledged the truth in the criticism.

@@wolfsurvival2009 hahahahahaha that just makes it more obvious that he is a political hack in his normal life because.. he can accept criticism and new facts in this area but he chooses not to in regard to anything else.

The pianist's phrasing was generally kind of strange tbh

Welcome to two set piano roasting session 😄

Pianist is his dad

I mean... it’s just his dad. Neither are professional musicians. They did this for fun and from what I understand, Ben doesn’t play much these days since he’s so busy with his job and family. I doubt his dad practices everyday either. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Look up "David Shapiro Girl From Ipenema"

*cries in big band*

Cries in jazz rhythm section

Yes but he was playing classical so that’s another story

**cries in scat singing*** waaa 😭 waapa doo bop

Jazz has rhythm, eminem rap god dosen't

Variety of Everything reviewed*

Well he can actually play. At his skill level it’s more about minute technique

That's a fairly low bar, I think

It's certainly more respectable than anything else he has put out into the world. Shouldve stuck to violin playing... just instrumental... no voice or speech needed...

Thats bcz he isnt bad

Solace 😂😂my favorite comment

Really, Ben said that? Wow, imagine being Ben, thinking you're the epitome of good arguments and facts :D

@@MoonShadeStuff Ben "Big Brain" Shapiro

Perfect! Best comment.

MoonShadeStuff Ben Shapiro looks and talks like he’s deeply unhappy about most good things in life.

*facts* A vast majority of issues stem from people being too tense. The reason why it looks so easy for great violinists is because it is, for their body. Mastering the mental game is the next step after figuring out how to be a “loose” player.

Ohhh!! I feel for you! At least our neighbours got quarantined elsewhere, so I can sneak over and use their grand... Yay!

@@nellapenelope3240 OHMYGOD 😂

Nella Penelope with permission lol?

Oh no, my condolences! I should stop complaining about the 100-year old piano in my landlord's apartment even if it has a few buzzy notes and broken key ends...

@@nellapenelope3240 lmao

Yeah, but people always bring politics into stuff. It’s really annoying

@@varishehe everything is based off of politics. Its gonna get brought up.

Yeah this is so fascinating!

No consistency?

@@tomato2088More like completely "factual" and lack of proper human emotions.

@@adagio7635 he's actually not technical in this lol

@@adagio7635 he's not factual tho lol, dude lies all the time "why don't people whose homes flood from climate change just sell their homes" - Ben Shapiro

pff nerd

Yes! So true and parents 🤦‍♀️🙄 😂

KPOPFANNOOB 123 the joys, especially of having a parent that plays the same instrument as you.

Life Note lol wat??

Supercell oh gosh, I’m so sorry.

Do a lot of people fake playing the violin? I'm confused as to why we need to give him credit for being a musician. Lots of people across all professions are musicians. It's not that amazing.

@Bia L you can't even spell. Maybe try crying more.

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS Some people definitely do some faking for RU-vid vids. Which should be no surprise to anyone who has ever been on RU-vid. Or the internet lol.

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS for public figures (all professions across), some people tend to perfect their public images by showing how perfect they are in a lot of things. So I guess faking is not a rare thing. And when one says s/he plays an instrument, the audience might kinda assume s/he plays it well... idk... Just something I noticed people assumed around me. And imho he might more likely refer to those fake playings on TV shows in general (like in talent shows and even performances).

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS obr

he responded and tweeted about this right after this video came out months ago

he also seems nervous about it

we know Shapiro as a commentator, not as a violinist

I know musicians that were great as kids and quit for 10 years and had to start all over, they still had good ears though.

clearly, he chose to focus on a different "career" nowadays

He's a bit rusty that's it

Totally agree. If he's playing at that level, on a public platform...he's comfortable enough with it to be critiqued.

He was a concert violinist for a short time before he solidified a career in political media. I think its shows that even if you have reached a high level that if you stop practicing regularly bad habits will creep in. I assume he still plays casually at home but doesn't sit and put in a lot of practice on a set list like you would to prepare for a concert/show performance.

He's built a platform trying to publicly embarrass college students- it actually makes this pretty apt. Fuck him!

this is true in other fields as well, not just music. gotta have that tough love sometimes yaknow haha

@@Mansohuuj The internet is a public forum -- when posted, it becomes fair game to whoever wants to watch, or comment on it. What twoset has done here is a clear and classic example of Fair Use, so there's no reason they shouldn't be able to make this vid, even if the video was just insulting his playing mercilessly (there's an argument with that hypothetical to harassment, but the fair use stands). If Shapiro wanted to criticize a twoset video on his show, he'd be protected by the same right.

It might be because there doesn’t seem to be too much of a crossover between ling ling wannabes and people following Ben Shapiro closely. I feel hardly anyone here knows what an idiot that man is.

@@asimhussain8716 clarification: he has an argumentative personality, and is primarily a debater.

@@Grizzlox well.. i have a very argumentative personality as well and that has nothing to do with my cello playing. why would he want to argue with the violin? lol

@@von0312 he's referring to the way Ben carries himself, very uptight, it makes sense for him to struggle a bit with tension in his playing