Cleetus Mcfarland is wrong about electric turbos! 

exactly he said the one he had was to small for his motor so worked worst

he hooked it up backwards to the battery. Watch the video again

Jon Doe damn bro you good?

@@jondoe6926 you're a boy pussy

Jon Doe you’re just mad that your electric turbo is shit and you can’t even beat civics

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I’m dying

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883 of them ...

As a previous frs owner. I believe he made the thing slower. His 0-60 was worse than mine was when it was stock. I watched a video of him driving around and doing pulls. I forget but I think I times his 0-60 at a little over 7 seconds. Nearly a second slower than what road and track did For way less than the money he spent, I bought a Cobb access port, catless headers, and I made my own intake tube/ducting. The thing was still slow but it ripped compared to this thing.

Snaab92 lmao he actually did make his car slower than a mom suv

@@youtubeisbroken241 your a fucking idiot if you honestly think this made the car slower. and i wouldn't be surprised that you guys are idiots for thinking that at all

@@michaelwielenga8809 don't get angry,there are people on the internet that are paid to knock a product,if electric turbo's were perfected,you got any idea how many companies would go belly up,least of all those who sell tig setups,and mig guns and host of companies gone,just gone,electric everything is the only thing that will fit under the hood of most of these golf carts made today,i don't like any new car,they are a compromise,nothing beats first design,after 1975 most cars were jokes,that includes the vette,ever work on a car made after 1980,that's right 4 miles of wire and a supplement electrical owners manual of schematics,and you need them to repair anything but a oil change and battery installation,the way of the future is like your wiper blades ,PLASTIC AND UNRELIABLE

@@youtubeisbroken241 yep I used to have a brz and if I shifter right I could get it down to 5.4 -5.8seconds with a 93 octane tune, headers, tomes catback exhaust, throttle controller module and bigger injectors. Even stock it did 0-60 in 6.4 seconds

Exactly

Does that fit a GT86?

There are plenty of eBay turbo kits for the fa20. It’s also incredibly easy to use the m90 supercharger from early 2000s chevys and build some nice power

Faxxs

True but this the type of mod that requires no fab, no strange piping. No extra work to the exhaust and creates no attention to a otherwise stock car, All the power so to speak and none of the drama when a piggy see's you.

Yeah, I'd say this guy is dumb as a box of rocks, but then that wouldn't be fair to the rocks. He proved not a thing. Electric turbo's do nothing more the restrict air and make noise. I wonder how many guys like this are driving their rice cars around with these things thinking they have a top fuel drag car. So fucking stupid.

It's an extremely clean build. I love the look of it.

@@joels7605 agree, and like others, I think it should be a larger unit in there.

I would argue that compressing the air increases the air density. Also, as he stated in the video, he doesn't have hot side. The intake is getting its air from the air box which is right up front. That's not to say its not gonna get some heat from the engine but it certainly wont be hot when powered.

@@aydenowens9522 The heat is generated in the compression of the intake air. There is no such thing as air compression without heat.

The one he has is a Phantom, you want a torqueamp... They are more money but run off a 48v battery and can make 1.0 bar

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on the dyno the video is displayed in Black & White. Just so you know, there's no red in Black & White

It wasn’t even the same car... if you listen he says it is a similar car to his. Still I don’t see it being the future or turbos or whatever he’s claiming lol

@@davewalkerden the Dyno video was not black and white lol, you can clearly see red in the air intake, the taillights and the toolboxes.

That's from the Cletus McFarland video

John Jacobs wow..... no it wasn’t..... but even it if were, it’s clearly a different car. The douche in the video has even acknowledged this on other comments

You should go watch cleetus’ recent Torq Amp vid. Pretty interesting

Suisk8- most factory computers can adjust fuel trims for low boost. Computer sees lean condition and adds more fuel in milliseconds to get it back where it needs to be. Just because you’ve never seen it doesn’t make it impossible. You’ve probably never even tried it. The limitation would be maxing out the stock injectors if you turn the boost up and to max them you would need to tune the computer, add standalone or piggyback

@@mikeschneider634 yes indeed and in his video he is not claiming that the engine is producing more power by only adding air. Adding fuel is easy on these cars with the flash tablet. So therefore not interesting stuff. The only interesting thing is a working electric boosting device.

hahahahaha yeah in your video you say nothing about boost timing control, or anything fuel system related.. and claim 45 hp with nothing to back it up.. see how many dislikes you have now.. waste of money I call complete bullshit! If you want real power gains people don't half ass it like some people.. you will not get what you want and damage your engine.. Do it right or don't do it at all

also the way the boost tapers off ass rpm increases would give you the dumbest power curve ever on the dyno graph that you wont post bcoz you know its wack asf.. so solution is go 48 volts lmaooooo still wack asf no body wants to run 5 mini batteries in they're car performance car.. Weight savings is what the cool kids do with only one mini battery and a real power adder.. You should try it!

Daniël Hilgersom his car is not tuned. He admits this in another video. But there’s also some tell tales. He has his catalytic converters removed. When Modern Subaru’s have bad or removed cats, they throw a check engine light and a cruise control light. ANY tuning software can get rid of this problem. He has both lights during his test drives. This indicates to me he is running the stock software. He is not adding fuel, his timing is still the factory setting. His car will not run right when under boost. The factory ecu will modify fuel and timing within set parameters. Those limitations will not compensate for an engine making boost.

It's making a landscaping business

My frs that had a power robbing automatic transmission was faster than his. All I had done was a cat delete, home made intake, and a proper tune. It sure as hell wasn’t fast but honestly I think my wife’s old versa pulled about as hard as frs does in his test drive videos. I’d love to see a head to head between him and a bone stock frs.

@@youtubeisbroken241 no the fuck it wasnt lol photomikes frs would have blown you fucking doors off idiot

White Noise if you watched his latest electric turbo vid he used this on a smaller engine

He probably got it for free and is promoting it. No one would pay that much for that little of gains. In replacement of a turbo system that is tried and true.

F1 cars use electronically assisted turbos. You dont wait for boost, motor spools it, then it turns off and functions like a normal turbo. They are insane. Instant boost.

@@wes89 but can you buy it on eBay 🤣😂

@@jynxd420xxx7 no but they are so simple you can literally make them yourself

This is for someone who does not want a ton of power, but just an extra boost in hp for some fun and drivability, a car like the FRS is not safe and not reliable when you add too much. this system is easy to install and easy to take off, no lag, and does not require as much work compares to a turbo kit. The price will no doubt go down and be more affordable if more companies would develop and sell this type of kit.

@@yume8380 oh for sure, its a great looking setup for sure

this dude is a idiot when it comes to boost. Even talking how the battery runs the power while the car is running is a false statement because as long as you have a good alternator a car once its running you can pull the battery out and drive across your state and hell my stepdad got from Colorado back to wisconsin with no battery. But as far as no boost until full throttle that means you have restriction which robs power until full throttle. as far as full boost of 4.7psi to 5psi. most turbos take a consistent amount of boost to not be a restriction. so when you have it at full boost bak8ng 4.7 to 5 psi 3 psi is probably gonna be needed just so its not a restriction because the car is sucking psi just to run from that much psi you are obviously robbing HP if its not runn8ng at idle and as air is be8ng forced through with no where to go you would always have to be at 75% throttle in his case and the thing would lose power and slowly kill the thing. Dyno is a fricken tool look at your dyno how much power you lose everywhere else. you are making that car suffer for a little up top power if thats the case 300 to 500 bucks get a good nitrous kit spray 40 to 300 shot and same thing set it for full throttle and use it when you need it. anything costing this much for you to have a dyno lime and car running like crap because of a restriction is just stupid. eventually cleetus got a really got a really go electric turbo and then the same company sent him a twin turbo/supercharger and it was way more beastie than what you have sir. they put it on a lil cobalt and got power. but it had a lot of other stuff to make her run right it my friend was a good kit. Electric supercharger is nothing new.Electric superchargers have actually been used on super and hypercars and was hoping this video was about that. Come on with trying to make money of a cleetus segment when your logic without knowledge is flawed. even the kit they got for the cobalt was taken off. the electric supercharger cost more than the cobalt and it was a proper kit made power but geaorge from cleetus mcfarland drove that car daily to the shop and raced it up until cleetus smashed it like a month or 2 ago. but them turbs werent on it because car runs better without them craps. get nitrous before this craps. Plus last thing im gonna day is you trying to be factual is worse than my punctuation and spelling in this comment lmfao. OH and hey cleetus was trying to be funny with these science segments dude lmfao shim shum dhim bang boom right over ther doom piece lmfao 🤣 😂 💀 😆 😭 😅 🤣 😂 💀 😆 😭 😅 🤣 😂 💀 😆 😭 😅 🤣

y-coupling was the solution i did. your cold air or short ram intake on one end then the electric supercharger on the other. this is so when it's not enegaged, there is not an obstruction of air.

When you're at low throttle and load, you'd be shocked how little airflow you need for normal driving. Personally, I'd use a switch on the shifter so you can get instant and full boost at any engine RPM.

I rewatched the video and can’t see proof of that anywhere. Do you have time stamps that could prove this?

13.03 for the test fit. 20.04 for the dyno run. Watch the battery and what coloured wire the guy is holding.

@@MrFredscrap Yes and watch it in 0.25 speed when it starts spinning, you can clearly see it spins backwards when installed on the car.

This is his exact explanation at the 12:00 mark

Proof of his lack of knowledge

Wrong. They work together. Alternator only charges when it has a 12v signal how they all work. Do some research. Will only run for so long till computer realizes there's no 12v signal.

$400 in the trash

Thanks!

Don’t fall for his video. Watch his other videos first. He peaks at five psi but truly only runs about 2.7 under WOT. He also shows his gauge cluster while he’s flooring it. My tuned, catless, frs with a home made intake was faster than this and only cost 600 bucks for the tuner and manifold. Furthermore, an m90 supercharger costs a couple hundred bucks and you can easily fab up some mounts to put one on the frs. This guy got conned out of his money but doesn’t want to admit it so he keeps trying to prove something that’s not true

Curious of the same I.e what consequence/restrictions are there with the compressor when it’s inactive (when the car is in cruise mode)? Wouldn’t the internals of the compressor make it harder for the engine to suck in air with an inactive compressor?

Yeah, for this to reduce/eliminate such inefficiencies, you would need to have two separate intake paths, one for when the supercharger is active and one for when it isn't (and thus a separate means to switch between the two).

Lmao

Lol bet you can't say anything now that Cleetus reviewed the torqamp

Like a LS swap

Like what? Teach us how you make more power on 2k?

For sure it could be built for less than 2000 but you would have to have electrical knowledge.

I've got less than $500 in my setup. I'm also over engineering it. And adding to the fuel assembly to make more power. It's doable just takes some understanding.

well it is a working engine so it OBVIOUSLY is already lubricating the bearings lol wtf are you talking about?

He's referring to the bearings on the turbo. Its an electric motor so they come with internal sealed bearings. Most of which can be replaced at some point but they have a long life span.

no matter what a turbo or supercharger will restrict the air intake not sping or spinning a little from intake air and even to the point the are powered they will still restrict intake air until they start to make about 2 to 3 lbs of boost to equal out tge factory power. so if this man dont have that thing going until 75% throttle then he is killimg the engine at anything low thottle which would make tgat engine suffer. If you are lokking for your car to run normal until he wanted full throttle power for those little gains he couldve save a bunch of money and ran a wet nitrous kit whixh you can get for 3 to 500 bucks and it can be tuned to the car and give you power only at full throttle or less. also you can make it r7n really efficiently if only running a 40whp gain its super safe that low with notrous on up to 100whp shot for most engines. niteous can be tuned. What this guy is showing on a dyno is tge fact a dyno is just a tool. it meant to say if your car make 120hp for example that when they tune or fix the issues that the car may be having a dyno shows there is power gains sometimes just from fixing a issue. also you have STD AND SAE dyno numbers. one number is the number this particular brand dyno shows which is a real number the other is a corrected number and the shops for youtubers or shops try8ng to lie to guys they are tuning or a guy just trying to show big numbers the shop can type in estimated hp loss due to drivetrain loss. which is retarted for ppl to believe those numbers if they dont understand how the numbers work because a mid engine car because the power goes from engine trans through axles they caculate 10 to 15% drivetrain loss depending shops ppl etc. but a front engine rear wheel drive car the engine makes power then driveshaft then rear and some say then axles then tire and dependind wheel/tire can be its owns losses so a guy can say 20% to 40% loss which us as ppl watching a video we just see hp so it can make a 195whp car look either 20% boosted or 40% higher than the crank/engine hp. which is dumb because rear whel drive you lose power yes. but we should go by non corrected number which will look low. lets say you take 707hp dodge challenger hellcat to the dyno. 707 is usually the hp at the engine. but at the wheels with correction a guy can make is 707 or 800hp. without correction its gonna show us the truth of whats at the wheels and with drivetrain losses the hellcat can be 600 to 625whp but that is the REAL number of wat the car actually pushes out of the rear wheels to the street. HUGE to a person that knows but ppl that dont know its l8ke well thats a small n8mber. hell thats the truth number no lie

Lol this guy got so many views by just putting "Cleetus Mcfarland" in his title. Cleetus was doing it as a joke/content. And this guy is a legit dedicated electric booster all for the low cost of 2k$!!

Even on a 4 cyl that thing would not have produced boost. You need something better engineered and at least 24 volts.

Photomikes Garage Wow did think you were going to reply. Is there one that would work on the Vic thx

What do you recommend me to do on my BRZ to have the same power gain for less the 2k?

Daniël Hilgersom look up m90 supercharger on eBay. It’s a factory part found on gm, ford, and some Australian market vehicles. You can get them for about 300 bucks fully restored with warranty. Spend another 800-1000 to have a shop fab up some mounts and boom, you have a real supercharger with real power and you won’t look like this goof ball

Daniël Hilgersom or, for less money and ease of build, buy yourself a Cobb tuner, an intake tube (your stock filter box is fine) and a catless header. You’ll walk on this guy Note you would need a tuner for the other option I suggested as well

Better to just get an actual turbo.

Properly set up (map, flow rate, temp, fuel, timing) forced induction should make 17 hp per psi as a general rule of thumb. If it doesn't, it was a wasted effort.

That's make no sense and is not plausible. 2 hp is within margin of error and is not functional difference. 5psi is plenty given it has required VOLUME to feed the engine. Yes there is a restriction during normal driving at low load but you do not have air intake requirements where that is a problem. But when Boost is On the restriction is overcome with Forced Induction. Something like 35-40hp bump is very reasonable given the right parameters are met. Nothing you said makes any engineering or mathematical sense.

He should because a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi made leroy look like it was crawling at fl2k lol

Paul kivler lol but that mitsubishi is all billet, on how much money put into that mitsubishi if it was put into leroy, leroy would be much faster and would handle way more than 30lbs of boost

They need to put the electric turbo/supercharger in the Geo tracker and see if they can get it done as long as they don't sink it in a pond again I'm sure it will surprise them

@@hollarforadollar9244 the red demon owned leroy

Miguel R car has been around for 10 years. Built and built and raced and raced. It’s apples and oranges.

I got a feeling he's just trying to get some subscribers for his channel...

The impeller is not a restriction compared to the actual throttle blades themselves.

Photomikes Garage Anywhere in the 0-70% throttle range, while the electric motor is not running, there will be more restriction therefore more vacuum and power lost. I googled the Audi SQ7 to see how they do it and theirs is actually in a separate airflow path that has valves to take it out of the airflow when it’s not running.

@@The.JZA. photomikes is right. It will not be an issue. Cruising requires a minimum amount of air. The system on the Audi is also turbocharged on the high rpms and therefore the air flow is much higher at full throttle and high rpms. The electric supercharger they use have a much smaller compressor wheel and therefor is really limited in flow. So on a 2 liter naturally aspirated engine it's not a problem with the large Phantom compressor.

Daniël Hilgersom Basic physics tells me that adding a restriction will reduce power. Even if it’s a small reduction it’s still something and will also reduce fuel economy. He has the switch set at 70% throttle. Maybe when he’s “cruising” the restriction might be minimal but anything from 30-70% throttle will have a significant airflow velocity and I think it would make a difference to power and fuel economy. If you measure the vacuum pressure I bet it’s greater with the turbo in than without it.

@@The.JZA. ​ You're partly right. Yes it will limit the flow when you have around full throttle and the Phantom Supercharger is switched off. But there is not really a reason to switch it off. People are also not switching off the turbo or supercharger of their car. Imagine the size of the throttle body which is made for 7000rpm full throttle, cruising around 2000 a 3000 rpm with partially throttle requires much much less air, something the Phantom can easily do because it's a rather large compressor. There will not be an additional fuel consumption at partially throttle. Why? The ECU will measure intake manifold pressure (vacuum pressure) and when the Phantom will be switched off the pressure could be lower like a throttle body is doing when partially closed. The ECU will not notice if this pressure drop is over the Phantom or over the Throttle Valve. So It will think that you're driving not full throttle or higher in the mountains where air pressure is lower. Check torqamp.com/use-cases/ Here you see the graph of the Honda Prelude with original air intake vs electric supercharger switched on and off. Up to 4000rpm the difference (at full throttle) is minimal. This minor difference could have also another reasons because car manufacturers do there best to make the perfect air intake with resonance chambers. This will be removed while placing the Electric Supercharger.

Josh Paterson exactly

Either way, this thing MAY be able to provide usable boost on a go kart. Nothing bigger

They did a video with a much better electric charger on a 2.2l ecotec Cobalt and then used 2 chargers on it and gained 75whp and 100wtq.

Lmfao. I got to 4 min 11 sec ... might be because drunk but ... fuck lol what a twat with his lawn mower

No they used a cobalt with a Corvette motor cover😂🤣😂🤣😂

your right about that........renewables and EV's represent an environmental disaster in resource extraction.........one estimate is that to achieve zero carbon by 2050, the amount of copper needed would be 400 million tons in only 30 years........not to mention nickel,cobalt,lithium or rare earth metals. Its horrific.

@@wazza33racer LOL both of you spouting absurd BS. The worst part is the cobalt propaganda. LiFePO4 requires ZERO Cobalt and soo will future battery chemistry. When it comes to Nickel & Copper the BEV industry uses extremely tiny amount relative to other industry where such metals are used in Buildings and Structural Materials. The scale used is just freaking tiny when it comes to BEVs. Are you going to Ban Electrical Wiring of Buildings? Fact is BEVs use less resources than ICE in sheer Tonnage. I'm not saying it's 100% clean but it's conservatively Half 1/2 without any improvements of supply chain & Electric Generation. Even more horrific is toxic waste and emissions from Crude Oil which is Several Times more Toxic based on LD50 than anything involved with batteries. There is basic organic Chemistry Concepts why Polycyclic Aromatic HydroCarbons are dangerous to Carbon Based life forms. To falsely claim BEVs is not better is a Blatant Lie.

Because "Green energy" church Green Washing was a PR scam developed by Fossil Fuel companies. It was designed to muddy waters and destroy the reputation of Renewable Energy ecosystem. Note how it's mostly companies who also handle Fossil Fuel or Combustion engines which sell the ZERO Emissions scam. BEVs are just awesome powerful tough machines. They are not 100% clean but much cleaner, less resources intensive and less toxic than Crude Oil based vehicles. It is a big improvement in both Performance & Health impact. Stop spreading "Green" scam which tries to confuse these facts.

@@Neojhun Cobalt has played a role in improving the performance of EV lithium batteries, namely energy density and battery life. Moves have been made to reduce the use of cobalt, but eliminating it entirely is going to take more time and research to achieve, if it can be achieved. So perhaps check your facts before shooting your mouth off that it plays no role in EV's , it does for now. Battery life is still an ongoing question in electric cars and lithium storage, in long term testing, some of them are not doing so well, not to mention the problems with recycling lithium batteries which is another"work in progress" that may or may not yield results. As for liquid fuels, there are cleaner fuels which can be made synthetically such as Methanol and research continues on the better energy density,longer chain alcohols like propanol. Regardless, with an excellent heat source like Thorium MSR nuclear power, which is well underway final trials in China, it will provide all the heat energy needed to produce limitless,cheap and clean burning fuels. Look up Thorium redux to learn more. If you visit roadmaptonowhere.com you read about the stupdensously horrific cost of the whole carbon zero by 2050 scam. One of the projections is that to reach zero carbon by 2050 with EV's and renewables would require the mining and extraction of 400 million tons of copper, not to mention the nickel,lithium and rare earth metals. Cure your ignorance.

Oh and read up on the Achates 2 stroke engine being used by the US Army and is being field tested in Aramco private vehicle fleet, they have conquered emissions in their CARB heavy truck trial and predict 20 to 30% better fuel economy in diesels and 50 to 60% better fuel economy in their direct injected gasoline version. Its engines are made of plentiful and easy to recycle aluminum and steel, and the EPA in California want all future trucks to use its technology. Combined with Thorium MSR, the energy crisis is easily solved........no need to rape the earth for hundreds of millions of tons of new,exotic resources that dont recycle well or triple the capacity of the grid that will cost many trillions of dollars.

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Do you only have a 14:56 attention span? Not his exact car but exact same set up.

so you're implying that even though it gained power and tq on another frs, it somehow wolnt on his?

Same engine, same turbo. It's just a proof of concept.

@@ericwheelhouse4371 didnt look like the same setup forward of the mini 'turbo'.