.."why my brave simplicity has failed. " Lol.I love it. :)I also loved it where Martin Landau turns to look at that cliff when he hears Antony has already broken through the Roman centre. Er there's no ships there.:)
Roddy McDowall was terrific. I wish he had been allowed to play Octavian closer to the truth ... perhaps the most competent, utterly ruthless and successful figure in history. Octavian, later Augustus, was personally "the new world order" of his day.
taylor and burton were having an affair at the time the movie was made. it created quite a controversy at the time. poor roddy mcdowall was the only one doing press at the time and he had to answer all the questions. but he told the press nothing. which only proves what a loyal friend roddy was to elizabeth!
I've seen the 2 part of the making of this film and Liz Taylor was also one of the reason why this film spend millions of dollar during the filming because she was sicked..and the filming had to stop waiting for the lead cast to be finally ok..and there was also changing of cast like the role of caesar and anthony..
I quite like Octavian ^_^. He may be the villain in this case, but thinking of it, it was justified for him to declare war. Anthony is being unfaithful to Rome, handing out chunks of the Roman Empire to his Egyptian lover who he dumped Octavian's sister for. I don't blame him for throwing a spear (such an accurate shot too =O)
Okay I'll say this in response from my people we know the difference between Mediterraneans and northern European descended individuals we are warm blooded they are colder. We know the difference between middle eastern and native italians as well. Middle easterners are hairier than us. Just look at roman and greek statues placed in museums for a racial reference to know what we look like because there are italians that look like these statues
It's easy to consider Cleopatra evil, but she had a country to literally run and had to learn survival early. But, she could have ahd Antony as a lover and she as far as I know was just as manipulative with Antony as Octavian was. She should have NEVER ordered him to divorce Octavia and it's no wonder people didn't take her side, they were fighting for the rights of her son, not themselves. A lot of foreign kings backstabbed her because she took their kingdoms.
Cleopatra did have the survival of her country to look after, but she was bit of an idiot + too power hungry. Half the time she's using Egypt's alliance and other treaties back and forth, and she often toys with Rome & acts as though Rome is lucky to have her as an ally and how they need her to survive.....if it weren't for Caesar and M.A being seduced by her, Rome could've easily invaded Egypt altogether (which is what happened at the end)....she played too many games and lost everything.
They could never make a movie this size ever again without any major studio support. All those extra's and costume's for that period would cost millions!!
Roman politics were a depraved blight on the world and I can't believe people today can still defend it and take them seriously. Now, as then, you can never underestimate human intelligence.
rufio was very loyal to anthony and he spoke with logic and truth it makes no sense that men who have been trained to fight on land all their lives now have to board a ship and fight for the first time its rediculous like rufio said they would be tired,defeated and puking while the enemy take advantage and attack them. cleopatra seems to have lost her logic, the fire i love about her, she completely destroy two great men with her greed for power, fame, conquest.
I would love to know in detail how they shot the Battle of Actium. How many life sized boats did they use? Which scenes were models (some scenes you can tell they're models, but others look like life-sized boats with actors on them)? Are the scenes shot on the decks of Antony's flagship and Octavian's flagship on a set on land?
@Harlequinnbabe It is an unfortunate choice. Propbably for 2 reasons. 1: Time (they had to cut a lot to fit all this into 1 movie whereas they had originally planned 2. And 2: They aren't important to history. Ceasarian was Ceasar's only living child and Octavian's only opposition. And was thus ordered killed by Octavian. Antony's 3 children by Cleopatra were not his only children, he had others, and were not killed but taken back to Octavia and raised by her along with his other children.
Why is Antony insisting on fighting a sea battle, instead of one on land? Was it ever explained in the movie? 4:37 Does it imply Antony did that for Cleopatra, because she supplied the ships?
Cezariusz 88 it was actually Octavian who refused to use his land troops thereby neutralising Antony's advantage, he knew he had a better chance at sea.
Agrippa, Octavian's childhood best friend, most loyal supporter and general, knew they had more of sure victory on the sea. Also all Octavian wars were fought and won by/because of agrippa. Octavian was possibly the greatest politician to ever exit but sucked at battle strategy. Luckily agrippa was his equal in terms of being the greatest in his field. *Fun Facts* : Agrippa is technically the who made Rome a city of marble. He was the only one there from the very being even before the adoption and never faltered in his loyalty. Agrippa was buried in Octavian's own mausoleum by Octavian's own orders, because agrippa had an equal part in making Rome what it was as well as making Octavian into Augustus (writers really down play him and his bond with Octavian). They were the best friendship to ever exist ,their loyalty and trust, built an empire. P.S This is a long a** comment and I'm sorry for that😇
@LaSerpentaCanta This is true... most Roman emperors were remembered that way though... with a few exceptions, most notably Hadrian. I do think he tried to do good for his people but like I said before, at what cost?
Does anyone know how much Hume Cronyn’s (Sosigenes) family received from 20th Century Fox in the lawsuit for his accidental killing by Roddy McDowall (Octavian)? It’s always amazed me that they still used that spearing clip in the actual movie. One of Hollywood’s darkest moments for sure.
Back in ROME's ancient past they would throw a spear in a ceremony after war had been approved, it went back to the time of the Kings. Octavian resurrected the ceremony, mainly for his own propaganda, to signify this wasn't a civil war, but a war between Rome and Egypt.
M14042020. A Jethro's Daughters The Ten Commandments-Bernstein, muy similar su inicio; Inicio Sea Battle Cleopatra-North, Mejor Soundtrack Cleopatra-North. Misma partitura y representación: Prelude The Ten Commandments-Bernstein: Batalla. Maestro Alex North Maestro del Maestro Elmer Bernstein.
S04072020. Por esta razón Don Roberto Gómez Bolaños musicaliza su Personaje El Chapulín Colorado: Misma partitura y representación: Con The Ten Commandments-Bernstein Soundtrack The Red Sea.
M23032021. Q.E.P.D. GRAN ACTRIZ ELIZABETH TAYLOR, UNA DE LAS MUJERES MÁS BELLAS DE LA HISTORIA, LA VERDADERA CLEOPATRA. Martes 23 de marzo de 2021: Se cumplen Diez años, (una decada) de su fallecimiento.
@twinkleyell Lol yeah, well he did help create one of the best empires the world has ever seen but at the cost of many cultures. Oh and he branded Cleopatra a whore later in history but I do not believe that for a minute, but whatever.
Macedonia is not any way greek but greaks are probably part of great Macedonia a Kingdom while Greece was not Cleopatra was from 100 procent Macedon from Ptolemy who was bodyguard of Alexander the Great the King of Macedónia was allways a Kingdom while Greece was not Cleopatra was from 100 procent Macedon to call her any other way is a mistake. I like Italy but in this movie your Ceasar made a mistake Cleopatra was a great Queen to us and was true Macedon Queen from Ptolemy who was bodyguard of Alexander the Great the King of Macedónia was allways a Kingdom while Greece was not.
