own these hook in loop 16 and they hot af such nice looking gloves but mad overrated especially now they 200 plus def not worth it. the leather's pealing stitching's ripping at the finger compartment and palm (3 years of use) . love the latex foam tho it's like a single big sheet rubbery marshmallow. shitty hand compartment even with wrapped hands with knuckle pads too wide it's not unbearable but you'd want it to feel more snug than it is. and the pop is good but with exceptions you should get good pop with most gloves coming down to technique. overhyped glove, solid but overhyped.
