CLIP: Yiddish discussion on Hasidic headgears 

Oh you must have a huge leg up on Yiddish! Wishing you lots of luck in your learning. Indeed, Yiddish is a language that so changes with place. My accent and the accent of my host are quite different, and our loan words are very different (because he's Israeli).

Yep I am experiencing this too, I went into learning Yiddish, as expecting it to have a similar pronunciation to German (which I have a very basic knowlege of since it was the foreign language I took in highschool (and just because I wanted to be different from my older sister who took Spanish the other (and more usefull in the US) language our school offered, but of course as the language moved east most versions take on a more Slavic pronunciation, especially the vowels; once I got a handle on that it helped a lot. Yiddish is so fun to learn.

Same here, I'm from just outside Vienna and could understand nearly everything.

I just had a lovely family of Austrian tourists on my tour. Sadly, they weren't as good about understanding Yiddish as people who speak Swiss German. So happy to hear you were able to follow!@@rhonakurka1041

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Haha, interesting! I am German, but if I hear people in fast Swiss German ("Schwitzerduetsch"), then I have a tough time following sometimes!

Aw, thanks Tara. I thought German speakers and Yiddish language learners especially would enjoy it.

It sounds very similar to me.

same!

😂😂😂

You're lucky you had German as an option!

I asked my husband and said huh.. it's not a hat its curls. :) fun video. Thank you for the clear yiddish

Nowadays that's called a "front" and people wear it with a scarf or with a hat that covers the rest of their head besides, well, the front 😂😂

I realized afterwards that this is probably what most people say these days!@@beans4853

There are English subtitles.

I know that I just LOVE listening.

ha ha!@@margotstamateris3583

Long, long time ago!! I’m glad you could follow this, some people complained about the Yiddish being too fast.

That's what Frieda wore. It can be worn with a scarf or a hat

I don't think the point of the video was to say no hasdic lady's are any less frum because they don't cover there wig

​@@peterdalyy3542it does specifically say that those who wear a sheitel are considered less frum...

@@sarahwiener8171 I don't see the issue with that statement? It describes how pious women wearing particular head coverings are generally considered to be by members of a particular community. It draws no value judgement on the actual piety of these women.

@@saynotoh2o747 it doesn't really bother me either. I also wear a sheitel. Just mentioned it because someone above wrote that they didn't understand from the video that people who wear a sheitel are considered less frum when it was specifically mentioned.

@@sarahwiener8171 Ah I understand. I misinterpreted the tone of your comment. :)

Of course she does....she grew up Satmar! It literally is her mother tongue.

I recently posted an advertisement which is ostensibly in Yiddish but has a ton of English words. It's almost more English than Yiddish. There is a wonderful linguist who has been studying this language - her name is Chaya Nove. I have not yet succeeded in convincing her to come on my channel.

Thank you @livinglchaim!

It was me! I don't know who Molly Ringwald is; I'll look it up!

I will try! הצלחה מיטן לערנען!

Very interesting point. I do feel like leaving the Hasidic community has a lot of parallels to immigrant’s experience. You might not want to go back home but home is home, you know?

Vien is also mostly an offshoot of Satmar

No, vien is a yekishe kehila

@@Berele252 30 years ago. It's fully Hasidic these days

​@@Berele252Per Wikipedia: While the original Viener Kehilla strictly adhered to the customs of Ashkenazi and Yekkish Jews, during the past 40 years there has been a major shift to Hasidic customs among most members of the group due to the proximity and political dominance of Hasidism in their neighborhoods of Williamsburg and Borough Park in Brooklyn, New York.

​​​​@@Berele252Some of the most notable differences of the pre-Hasidic Vien were Oberlander style of dress, with men wearing homburg hats or fedoras on weekdays as well as on the Sabbath and holidays and the Ashkenaz nusach (liturgy) in Davening. Today, while there are still very few who follow the old Viener way, the vast majority switched and are similar to other Hasidic sects in every way. Other Hungarian Hasidic sects that underwent very similar transitions include Nitra, Kashau, and Tzehlim. Source: Wikipedia

Next time I will add a bit of a summary in the start.

The Lev Tohar sect (often called a cult) does that I believe.

Interesting!

Oh thank you! I went by a glasses store on my way in Brooklyn and asked them for a new pair. I don't even know the name of the shop! Sorry! It was in midwood in Brooklyn.

This is helpful to know. Next time I translate a video I'll do this. PS: in this video we talk about how different Hasidic headcoverings symbolize different degrees of piety. A scarf is very pious while a wig is quite modern. We discuss various styles in between, like a band (what Pearl wears) or a frizette (what I used to wear).

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn I apologize if I came off as rude. When I saw the video, I was watching it but even with the subtitles on I had to literally pause the video every five seconds just to read the subtitles to keep up with what you guys were saying. Thank you for understanding where I was coming from I do apologize again.

Didn't come off as rude at all- appreciate your comment!@@kryssysmith1486

Ha ha Doug, people love Yiddish, you are right!

Oh no, maybe your language viewing settings aren't on English? Because the subtitles are in English.

I was so young and shy and quite repressed

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn I can see the difference immediately. You are a totally different person now. I found an interesting article on Yiddish, German, and the Amish Old German language. They are all very different. Google: "Yiddish and Pennsylvania Dutch Among Hasidim and Amish". A quote: " Eastern Yiddish, which was the native language of most Jewish immigrants to the US in the late nineteenth and early-to-mid twentieth centuries, including the Hasidim, was coterritorial with non-Germanic languages, mostly Slavic languages, Hungarian, Romanian, and Lithuanian. Within Eastern Yiddish there is considerable dialectal variation."

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Sounds like you were oppressed and depressed as well!

Yiddish is meant to be a unique Jewish language. The original yiddish was mainly a different dialect of german that was being spoken in a different part of Germany. That was enough to keep away from the goyshe (gentile) neighbors. In hungary they spoke with their own accent which was developed even more in the US. The American Satmar version of yiddish sounds more hungarian than hungarian and has many enlish words mixed into it. They don't sanctify the german words. All the care about is that it is different.

Mixing Yiddish with English is very common for Hasidic women. I didn't know that about Pennsylvania Dutch mixing lots of English! It does make sense.

Elizabeth, I mean, Hasidic women wear beautiful head coverings. It's not always about the hair.

That's not Galitzian, that's the American Hasidic accent

Although I do not speak Yiddish, I did notice that too!!

@@johnjacobs7426 American Hasidim speak various accents depending on where in Europe their ancestors are from. The dialect that was spoken by Jews in Eastern Hungary and Carpathian Ruthenia (in modern day western Ukraine and eastern Slovakia), which are the regions that most Satmar are from, can be broadly classified as Galitzianer/Poylish, with a few minor differences such as occasional Hungarian words. In Brooklyn, their accent evolved further. The largest difference is the dropping of grammatical gender from spoken language (in written language they still use it) and incorporation of some English vocabulary. There is also some influence of Oberlander Yiddish, which was a very different dialect of Yiddish. But in terms of pronunciation and grammar, Williamsburg Satmar Yiddish is still essentially a type of Galitzianer/Poylisher accent.

Nevermind I found the subtitles. So fascinating Frieda. I managed to pick up a few words here and there, due to my mother speaking yiddish to my grandparents.

100% no question about it.

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That's what Eli said although he didn't mention גלחים

Oh it's such a great question. I would say there's a social respect for elegant and beautiful looking ladies. Women who forgo this beauty sacrifice in some ways because they feel perhaps less than. So it's not prideful. It's often really socially hard. The women with the wigs love enjoying their elegant head covering and those who don't wear the wigs can have a really hard time with it, so it's a big sacrifice. It all has to do with the fact that in the community, there's a lot of appetite for beautiful wigs, and those who pass are left out of that.

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn It sounds like it's a work of what the Protestant Christian community sometimes refers to as being in the world but not of it. The wigs are a balance between wanting to have the broadly accepted beauty of lovely hair while still remaining set apart for God by being obedient to the tradition of having the head covered. The little bit of hair would be a tiny bit of beauty held onto for the woman who wants to be pious but not lose her own self completely. Is this a correct interpretation?

I’m chassidish myself, yet I appreciate Frieda’s presentations. Please don’t knock her. I may disagree with some things she might say, but let’s be nice. She means well. All the best to you, Frieda!

@@yoshaleibgranovski3450 I think she is acting as a moser or moseret and infiltrating the frum community on behalf of our enemy. In the last video with the diamond cutter Frieda said she discussed many topics with the man. Yet none of that part of the interview was shown. Also Frieda didn't tell him in advance she was bringing a cameraman. Is the cameraman Jew-ish like Frieda or non jewish?

Frieda mentioned in the video description that this was just a small part of the interview. She gave reference to where you can view it completly if you like. The video of the diamond cutter is over 12 min. and is a video of its own. Not sure if you really wanted to know this or if you were just trying to be "funny" with this strange comment...

What a ridiculous comment. Videos get tremendously cut for several reasons: my decision, the interviewee asking me, and for creative reasons - because people are much more likely to watch short punchy videos. Please stop making these absurd accusations against my editor - who has done so much to bring my vision to life on a shoestring salary. This is not the first time you run around accusing him of being a British intelligence Agent and it's just BEYOND.

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn are you familiar with the new yawk toymes stories attacking yeshivas in order to pressure yeshivas to lower religious teaching and increase secular education. Last week it was shown on Breitbart news that NY times reporters were emailing back and forth with the enemy employees in the NY department of education to work together to pressure yeshivas. You can Google Breitbart news+NY times+ yeshiva email to read the article. Next for additional secular education, Google Bernstein+CIA+ media to read the interview with a former CIA head bill colby to see him admit the NY times is run by the CIA. When you attack lack of secular studies in yeshivas you do the work of the kapo enemy in the NY times and their controllers in the cia. Then for additional secular education which you love Google Operation Paperclip to learn a little more about your non jewish friends. The only reason non Jews help those like you leave frum Judaism is because they are trying to destroy you while pretending to help you. I'm sure you realize that your grandkids will marry idol worshippers and your great grandkids will be idol worshippers. This is what your non jewish handlers want. I could go on and educate you but I think I've given you enough secular education for today. I still believe your friend in england is really your frenemy.

I think they are largely Ashkenazi, although I believe a cohort that came before WW2, and holocaust survivors.

@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Thank you for your answer.