To be quite honest, I think you kinda forget one particular, but valid complaint regarding Clorinde - which is her BoL being calculated server side and how her performance is very sensitive to your ping. At >200 ping her BoL gain is a bit delayed and can cause you to perform a Lv 1 Lunge rather than a Lv 2 Lunge, despite already performing three shots in order to increase BoL above 100%. This is a massive technical issue rather than a skill issue if you're looking to compare her fairly with other Electro on-fielders. Using her Lv 2 lunge to dash away from the enemy is also a waste, you're better off immediately using a Lv 0 lunge _after_ a Lv2 lunge to put distance after you'ce pierced through an enemy or simply just dash around the enemy and let the edge of the Lunge's hitbox graze them. This way she'll still be at a distance without making herself vulnerable by getting too close (I've seen a lot of Abyss players do this with her when running shieldless teams). As for team building, it really depends on how you interpret her kit. Some people say she replaces Keqing as a Fischl Driver or a Yae competitor as the main Electro damage dealer in Aggravate + Swirl teams. Some say she's a Quickbloom character that competes with Cyno in his own Quickbloom team that consists of Nahida, Baizhu and Furina. Clorinde isn't any of them. She's all of them combined. In a Swirl + Aggravate team, she has a bit of Yae's AoE and Keqing's capability in driving Fischl's A4 passive. In Quickbloom teams, she has more AoE than Cyno and is less restrictive rotations/teammates in comparison. You can even put Fischl/Beidou for single target/AoE fights and run no healer whatsoever since Furina's Healing Bonus buff can easily cause Clorinde's self-heal to overcap and activate Furina's overflow heal. Thundering Fury also allows her to use her E skill and summon Oz/use Beidou's E skill twice per rotation (24s) for more Fischl A4 procs or energy for Beidou. If you thought Cyno + Nahida + Baizhu + Furina was bonkers, just wait till you see a variation that plays completely at mid-long range, doesn't have a restrictive rotation/energy requirement and can utilize the one of best Quicken off-fielders in the entire game - essentially running a full party of damage dealers that synchronizes perfectly with each other. All in all, I think this wouldn't really alleviate the "horrible/mid" allegatios regarding Clorinde. Most people who complained about her (the ones with _actual_ valid conplaints) already know the most of the tricks shown in the video. What they need to be told is not how they're lacking in skill, but rather that they need a change in perspective. For example, you can alleviate her BoL's high ping issue by running a good Dendro healer since she converts heals to BoL during her stance (Baizhu havers rise up) and you can change between Keqing's short and long rotations (one where you don't make Fischl snapshot buffs and one where you do snapshot buffs with her). This way, you can use her usual 3 Shot combo while consistently landing a lv 2 Lunge. She also performs decently in a C0 Chevreuse team with Thoma and Fischl, quite comfortably too. It's gonna take more than a 4 minute video to showcase Clorinde's actual strengths and methods of mitigating her weaknesses.
I appreciate your in detail answer, but this is NOT an "In depths Guide" about Clorinde. I am aware there is way more to add, but this was not the point to the video... Anyway, thanks for the in depths answer! I hope we get some supports for a strong overloaded team with Clorinde, and thus I hope Chevreuse reruns soon, since I still lack her...
@@Masukuru oh I totally get that, it's just that I felt that the video was too busy clapping back at complaints about her (some of which are pretty valid) with a simple "skill issue" dunk rather than actually addressing them and suggesting simple solutions. The bit about using the Lunges to dash away from enemies is a bit interesting at first, but seeing it in action made me think that it's not any better than what people are already doing. For a character with a 7.5s DPS window, using manuevers that could potentially waste her LV 2 lunges is a significant DPS loss, and it certainly doesn't dispel any of the "bad/mid/worthless" allegations. There's also the thing about BoL's server-side calculations and higher ping issue, which has been brought up in a lot of complaints. I don't think any of these are "in-depth" whatsoever, let alone requiring an in-depth guide. I clicked on the video because I thought that maybe there were some things that I missed when it comes to optimizing her, whether it be playstyle (skill) or builds/teams (technical). After watching the video, I came to the assumption that it was more of an attempt to address her negative feedback. And yet, I think it wouldn't really give the people who'd complain about her any bit of insightful tidbits that'd change their minds - which is what I assume was the intent of the video. As someone who actually likes her gameplay, I don't think the video managed to fulfill the original goal of making people change their minds. The bit at the end felt like you just kinda gave up and pulled out the "skill issue" card, which again, made the video feel more like a clapback rather than something insightful and doesn't do much in fulfilling what I assume to be the video's intent of providing small insight to her kit/playstyle in order to dispel the complaints about her. All in all, this is all done in good spirit. I've tested her in a lot of teams and looked up discussions regarding her in the past week since she was released, and I've noticed certains tricks that mitigates her issues that surprisingly hadn't been mentioned by a lot of people. Seeing some of the unoptimized playstyles you suggested (for lack of a better term) and how you addressed the complaints also kinda rubbed me off the wrong way since it doesn't do much in dispeling the misconceptions surrounding her either - which is something that I've been trying to do for a lot of "Good, but not game-changing" units in the game. With all that said, have a great day, and it was fun being able to let out some of my two cents.
I think the terms of selfish DPS in here is more like a "Hypercarries". What i understand about selfish characters are those whose abilities goes off when they leave the field CMIIW
