Perhaps I missed it, but if we plan to run stock size tires there is no lift kit required? I know for the 22 hp predator you have to install a 4-6" lift.
The Predator engine comes with somewhat of a charging system. It is enough to trickle charge the battery, but not enough to really run any accessories. If you wanted to have more accessories, you would need more charging power.
Is the 1-inch extension enough for a 20-inch tire? I ask for example when I am loaded with weight (people) it does not wear out between the tire and the body while jumping?
Yes, but it is a very low output alternator. I believe they are rated at about 3 amps, so just enough to trickle charge the battery. Not enough to really run any accessories.
Got everything installed like yours but wanted ask why when u give it a lot throttle at dead stop it squeals like heck but if u go easy don't squeal do i néed to put power spring in that 780 secondary clutch I am using one put in description
Sounds like you may have a belt alignment or tension adjustment issue. The belt has to be perfectly straight and should have around 1" of deflection. We did not change weights or springs in either clutch.
Your link on the secondary clutch doesn't work anymore and will the same clutch for a Yamaha G2 work on a G1? I have a Hyundai HGG-1 and I think it is the same as a Yamaha G2. PS - Awesome job. It actually gave me a renewed sense of actually being able to accomplish this job.
Do you have to buy the secondary clutch to make that Amazon primary clutch work? Says online it’s for a 1-3/16” belt which is different from the vegas carts one
On the earlier DS models, like this one, the engine ran counter-clockwise. So with the Predator engine, forward and reverse were still the same. I believe they changed it in 1995. So if your cart is newer than that, you would have to run your cart in reverse to go forwards.
I live in a beach community and lookijng to fix and upgrade carts for people. I have autobody skills including paint and welding. Do you think it could be a profitable endeavor?
Since the pandemic, every Joe Blow out there thinks they can flip carts and make money. Some do very well with it, others just do a terrible job and sell stuff for too cheap which hurts the market for everyone. I have been building carts for over 20 years and enjoy doing it. The best way to be successful at it is to get setup with a couple of the cart distributors to be able to buy multiple carts at a good price. You have to make your money on the front end, not the back end (if that makes sense), and the only way that is going to happen is buying in volume (6 to 25 carts at a time). We have actually been making more money lately just selling basic carts, usually just tires/wheels and nice seats. Make sure they are fully serviced and ready to go. Less work and dollars in parts, and we make more money and they sell faster at the lower price point. Trying to do custom builds like the cart in this video is a BAD idea for making money. Way too much labor and very limited market of people willing to buy something like this. Buy carts that are running and just need serviced and cleaned up with very minor repairs needed. Like fleets that are coming off leases (this is where the distributors/brokers come in). Hope this helps. Good luck!
@PowerEquipmentMan wow. Thanks for the advice. I have been flipping cars and have a mechanic and autobody background so i am good to go there. I also live in a beach community. I see carts online that look like i could flip with some paint, epolstry, and a good service. But i will look into picking up a lot of carts if i can locally. Thanks for the help
Ive got a 2002 ds gas. Came with a small shop i just purchased. The engine is shelled but the seats clutches etc etc are in decent shape Harbor Freight has a predator 420 on sale for 369 in my area until Halloween. How much fabrication do you think would be necessary for just the engine swap and clutch replacement? I've got some stock and a MIG but I'm a horrible welder LOL turn the head and splash well things. I would love to get this thing running my kids and wife would have a blast with it I appreciate your video you got a sub and a plus one for me. Any other tips for somebody about to try this? Should I even?
Depends on what is actually wrong with your engine and the condition of the rest of your components. If your engine can be easily rebuilt and your clutches, starter/generator, and muffler are all still usable, it would be cheaper, easier, and more reliable to get your engine rebuilt. In our case, everything was shot, so the predator swap was the better option.
Greetings. Converting a 1996 G-16 with the 420. Do you know if i should hook throttle cable to the engine directly, or leave it attached at differential and use that cable (from the old set up) to the new engine? THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I just discovered your channel and am working my way through your videos! Great content! It's occurred to me that maybe I can immediately ask you for information after ever so briefly throwing you a single compliment! Hopefully I'm right! lol. I'm working on a installing a Scorpion 440cc engine in a Yamaha G9 and have nearly completed building a jackshaft mount. I have sprockets set with a 1:2.4 ration to counter the factory 12:1 in the differential, giving me an overall 5:1 reduction in my drivetrain, retaining the CVT with stock G9 engagement RPM's. The engine is rated for a minimum of 40hp. Do you think I'll have any issues with acceleration? I've designed this jackshaft and the cart's input shaft adapter with taper lock hubs so I can change my sprockets to whatever work best but I'm not sure if my starting point seems realistic? To clarify, my goal isn't to achieve awesome donuts, burnout, and wheelies. My goal is to hit 40MPH without being at full throttle, coupled with enough torque for some 2X4 trail riding.
It is possible to install the oem starter generator on these engines with some fabrication and wiring skills, but we did not do that on this build. Our starter generator was junk and they are pretty expensive to replace.
No we did not. It takes some time to get the idle set right, just high enough that it doesn't die, but low enough you can still shift gears. Make sure the engine is completely up to temp before you make any adjustments. Thanks for watching
It looks like they may have changed the listing as they are now showing those valve springs for a 212 engine. You might check out Go Power Sports to see what options they have for valve springs. Sorry about that.
Yes. Just about any gas golf cart from the early 90s and newer with a 4 stroke engine will have a transaxle with forward and reverse. Only the old 2 stroke carts would run the engine backwards to go in reverse.
@@bryanraykovics2843 The belt was a 45 inch from Vegas carts. I would recommend measuring your setup once you get it installed to verify what belt length you need. Vegas Carts should be able to tell you how to measure.
I put the predator 420 into my clubcar ds. I got 780 clutches and put the carb filter and choke kit. The only way I can get it to start is with the choke on. Any ideas? Do I need to put a bigger jet in the carb? Help.
The 420s are pretty notorious for always needing the choke on to start. But if you added a pod style air filter then you most likely do need to rejet it to run right. Try these jets - amzn.to/3OzQj8U
@Jason Bernard Have you tried adjusting the idle screw on the top of the carb? Takes a phillips head screwdriver and has a big black plastic head. The engine has to be hot to adjust correctly. Turn the idle up as much as you can, but not too far to where it grinds while switching gears.
@Jason Bernard They will not idle well while cold. But if the engine is completely warmed up and it still wont idle you need to turn the idle up more. If you added a pod style filter then you will need to rejet the carb to adjust for that. You can probably find a RU-vid video that covers how to rejet those carbs, sorry we do not have a video on that.
The 1995 and older models engine spin the opposite direction of the newer engines. So for this cart, the engine rotation was correct for forward and reverse. On a 2001, your forward and reverse will be backwards. I do not know for sure if gearing is different between forward and reverse to effect your speed.
@@PowerEquipmentMan i have the 780 series clutch with my stock secondary. Yes the 780 takes a wider belt. they say min of 1 3/16". The stock belt width is a 1". Mine is working just fine.
The 420 runs the opposite direction of the old club car engine , without changing gears in the rear-end, is there a way to stop it from going forward whens it's in reverse and vise versa when it's in forward,?
I believe '97 was when they changed the engine rotation. So anything before that (like our 1995) the engine rotation will be the same as the predator. If you have a DS that is newer then that, then your rotation will be backwards. No, I do not know of any easy way to correct that.
@@PowerEquipmentMan I've been told the 88 thru mid 1996 FE 290 models had CCW rotation, which is the case with my 1992 model. After 1996, the engines were made with CW rotation. I assume the Predators have a CW rotation??
@@ronniereaver2815 In the counter clockwise position? I need to know because I'm thinking of doing the same thing. My 1992 FE290 turns counter clockwise
Clutches are adjustable with different springs and weights, but we did not have to make any changes on this build. Are you running the correct size belt and is it adjusted properly and aligned?
@@PowerEquipmentMan my main issue is it is a harsh shift and then at top speed it will act like it is slipping and if I let off it aggressively slows me down.
@@xsavage136x8 I would guess that you either have an alignment issue and/or the belt tension isn't correct. Are you using an 1 3/16" wide belt? For clutch alignment the belt has to be perfectly straight and centered in the clutches. We had to use spacers on the transmission input shaft to get the secondary clutch aligned. Then for belt tension you should have about 1" of belt deflection when the belt is cold.
@@PowerEquipmentMan nice. Are you guys selling swap kits or something to that affect? Not many if any shops by me that are doing this. I have a old club cart that I would like a new motor in
Just using the charging coil that comes on the 420. It only puts out a couple amps so you can't run much with it, but it should be enough to recharge the battery.
What is the distance from the center of the shaft on your differential to the center of the shaft on your engine? I'm wondering so I can get the proper spacing for the belt between the two clutches.
Sorry I don't have that measurement and we already sold that cart. Vegas carts has belts of all different lengths and could help you figure out which length you need.
We did this build over a 6 month period as we got time to work on it and parts became available. Almost all of it we just had to figure it out as we went along. It is pretty tough to film a build like that, so we just decided to do one video when it was completed that explained everything we did.
