Club Car Onward Lithium information and performance 

No problem! Just make sure you read the description. It was well after I made this video that I realized my cart was faster than it should be. It was because I added the lift to a nonlifted cart and bigger tires increased my top speed. You won't get 23mph out of a regular cart, only about 19mph.

I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks

Thank you. This is the video I wished I could have seen before I purchased mine. I love it, but everyone always wants to know more. Hope it helped.

You're welcome! You're going to love it!

Kalau mau beli harga berapa ya ?

The Onward with those items is around 16K usually

Could you share your NC dealer name? Thanks!

@Chrisfranks998 Well honestly, it's only supposed to go 19mph. They have it governed and the only reason I was able to get a few more MPH was the larger tires. My gas EZ-GO did about 25mph. Honestly, gas is probably the better way to go, I just wanted to try an electric one because of how quiet it was but gas was amazing for speed and especially range. A full tank of gas would last us a month of everyday use.

You're going to love it! Mine actually doesn't have the Bluetooth radio. I prefer to keep a small portable Bluetooth speaker with me. That way if someone needs to use the cart, i can keep the speaker with me! They are definitely not cheap but I've had mine around 6-7 months and the only thing I've done to it is charge it! There is a lot to be said about not having to do any maintenance. Oh, and I just recently put different tires and wheels on it as well. My old dog loves it! We flip the rear seat down and throw her bed on it. She will literally ride for hours!

@@danielandrews9767 I received it today and I love it, it puts the ez go to shame. I was riding it for a couple of hours in my neighborhood with my dogs and they loved it. I love how fast it goes and if you need to stop, you just ease off the accelerator without having to hit the brakes. A couple of people already told me thats a sweet cart 🙃. If its in people's budget I would highly recommend that they get this cart. Never have to worry about maintenance, just charge and go.

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I agree about the range. I had a gas cart years ago and there was absolutely no worries about range. It held about 5 gallons of gas and if you filled it all the way up, it would last over a month of heavy daily use. I liked this one because of how quiet it was but in the real world, gas is still the way to go.

You're definitely going to enjoy it! I love mine!

Just a heads-up, the top speed will be 19mph, not 23 like mine. Mind was increased in speed by mistake, I found that out later and CC will not do that on purpose. I kinda got lucky. Just don't want you to be disappointed. Otherwise it's a great cart!

Nice! I'd like to see that!

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Hey Doug, This was the way the dealer had it configured when it was on the showroom floor. He orders all of his in "sport mode." There is a little grey area here that I'm not quite sure of. When you build your cart online, they do not ask what driving mode you want it in and since mine was already in sport mode while it was at the dealership, I'm not 100% sure who you need to tell in order to have it set up with your preferred setting. Best bet would be to let the dealership know which mode you want incase it has to be ordered from Club Car that way. I was under the impression that the dealership can make those changes by hooking up to the port under the dash with some kind of tuning device, however I cannot confirm that since mine was set up this way at time of purchase. My regenerative breaking was also set up as shown in the video. I can say however that mine is totally stock and if you are getting the HP Lithium version, yours should be just as fast as mine as long as it is set to sport mode. I guess if anything, have them watch my video where I show the regenerative breaking and the top speed and they should know how to have yours dialed in that way.

Hey Doug, when did you order yours? i ordered mine on 6/15 and still have not heard when my delivery date is as apparently the carts have been pushed back.Great video by the way Daniel, was informative.

Ken Sharpe I ordered mine beginning of June (1st week I think). It’s scheduled to be delivered to the dealer today (7/27). Which means they will deliver to the house probably Wed or Thur (7/29-7/30). Finally made it on a truck end of last week.

@@danielandrews9767 I have just got my 2021 and it goes 24 .I have gears and sport setting as of now.Playing with tires now Trying to get a little more rotation .Ten % should be easy seeing I do not have a lifted cart. Will let you know how my R an D goes.

I'm not sure of the size lift but I believe it is 6". If you were to order a lifted cart from CC, this is the size lift it will come with. As far as the tires and wheels, the tires are 23"x10.5"x14". These were a factory option in 2020 but I have recently looked at their website and these wheels are not offered anymore. I recently got rid of these 14" wheels (and tires) and went with a 12" wheel. These golf carts ride pretty rough if you are by yourself, without much weight in them so by going with a smaller wheel and a 23" tire on a 12" wheel, it makes for a bit of a softer ride, especially if you let a little air pressure out of the tire.

I think you are 100% correct. I believe the lead acid batteries will get you more range than the Lithium battery will. I have heard of several golf courses that purchased the Lithium carts, then later went back to lead acid for this very reason.

Yes! Absolutely love it! If I had to do it over, I'd still purchase this again!

I tried that but I couldn't make any money with this body! 🤣😂🤣😂

Your top speed will be around 19mph. Mine does 23 but that was from an ordered mistake. CC governs them at 19mph. Besides that, yes you can expect the same results. The club cars ride better than ez-go. They are still not the smoothest ride, but a major improvement over ez-go because of their suspension design. You'll be happy with the cart. Just realize that you are going to be limited by range regardless of what battery option you go with but you will literally have no maintenance and a super quiet and very powerful cart.

@@danielandrews9767 this is a great question and answer. I had someone tell me CC’s lithium isn’t up to par with the Samsung EZGO’s. The warranty is 2 years longer on the EZGO and you get the option to increase range. Though the CC has the aluminum frame which seems to be better and I think it’s a more polished look.

@@bamafan1612 So this is where you are really going to have to weigh your options. I've had an ez-go and of course the CC in the video and they are both excellent products. The batteries in both are very good products and I wouldn't worry too much about the difference in the length of warranty. These companies use "6 years" or "8 years" for marketing because it sounds like a long time, and it is a long time. The truth is, these batteries will most likely last 12-15 years. I have cheap Chinese Lithium batteries that I use with my power tools, they are already 8 years old, I abuse the heck out of them and the only one I damaged was my fault for over discharging it. I definitely like the aluminum frame and if you live near a salty environment, I would look no further than CC. However, ez-go will let you add a second battery pack. Yea, it's going to cost more, but more range is what everyone wants in their electric cart and I would have happily paid extra to double my range. Either way you go, I think you'll be happy. I think it will just come down to getting behind the wheel of them and trying them out for yourself. I really can't recommend one over the other.

@@bamafan1612 I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks

No, you will have to supply the receiver separately. I think I got mine from Tractor Supply Company for around $15 and another few dollars for a 2" ball.

Only 16mi range with the lithium version? seems a bit short.

It was a great cart! I sold it because it wasn't really useful in my current neighborhood but if I bought another one day, I'd definitely consider another one of these. As for the watch. That is a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro Sapphire edition. Garmin has recently released their new 7 series and I just made the upgrade to a Garmin Tactix 7 Pro. The Fenix and Tactix are nearly the same. They are incredible watches if you don't mind spending the money. Tons of videos on RU-vid about them if you want to see what they're all about.

@@danielandrews9767 Awesome , thank you , I'm looking at buying one of them soon

I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks

New and used both have their advantages and disadvantages. If you go with new, you get to decide what options you want, what color, etc. You can get anything offered by the company and you also get a warranty. However, this all comes at a very premium price. Buying a used cart will definitely save you some money but you may find yourself at a dealership looking to purchase any additional options that didn't come with your used cart. On the flip side, you may luck out and find a cart with a lot of options and those options generally do not add a lot of money on top of a used cart. If you go electric, make sure that the batteries are good or if they are old, that is reflected in the price of the cart. Lithium powered carts are still fairly new to the market and are definitely harder to come by. The main advantage of going with a new cart is that you are the original owner. You will know how well the cart has been maintained. You can get it set up the way you want it and it will be covered by a manufacturer warranty, just incase something isn't right. I prefer to buy "new" myself, however most golf carts are pretty well taken care of. That's one reason they tend to hold value better than ATV's and side by side vehicles.

There are currently three electric Onward models available and one gas version. The easiest way to identify the three different electric models will be to look at the decal over the rear fender. They will read as follows... "Onward" This will be the base model. It will have traditional batteries under the seat and will not have the upgraded motor or speed controller. "Onward HP" This will be the next level up over the base model. HP stands for "High Performance" It will still have traditional batteries but will have the addition of upgraded 375 amp speed controller and upgraded brushless motor. "Onward HP Li-Ion" This is the top of the line electric cart that features the upgraded motor and 375 amp speed controller along with the Lithium battery. This is the model I have and show in the video. The best part about it is it is truly maintenance free and has a lot of speed and power. You will also see some golf carts with "Special Edition" logo on them. These can come in gas or any of the three electric models mentioned. This refers to a paint color or ascetic difference that sets them apart from the standard color options. I hope this helps.

Mine was actually done by mistake. When I purchased it, it wasn't lifted so they had not programmed it to go slower. When I bought it, we put the lift on afterwards so I was able to get a little more speed out of mine. Anytime you buy one lifted from the dealership, it will come programmed to go a little slower.

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Got that fixed! Someone from Club Car spotted that! Thank you!

This is an option that is set at the factory whenever you order your Golf Cart. The dealership may have the module that plugs in under the dash as well but you will not be able to change this yourself. You get three options and mine is on sport mode. Sport mode is the fastest mode available. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any additional questions.

So I learned after making the video that the reason mine goes 23 is because it was set to "sport mode" when it was delivered to my dealership as a "non-lifted" cart. When the dealership added the lift, they changed the tires as well from the stock size to the 23" tall tires. Since the tires are taller, the outcome was a faster golf cart. CC was not too happy to see this video. They will not sell a cart or program one to go more than 19-20 mph. It's a liability thing and I definitely get why they do it. Me getting one that goes 23 mph was not done on purpose. It just happened to be the only Lithium they had and I wanted them to lift it for me.

@@danielandrews9767 you think I could program it for smaller tires or will I have to find a dealer willing to help? I haven’t found a club at programmer online

@@tmoneymanly My dealer could not do it, they did not have a programmer. I have looked online myself however I never found one either. I think that CC does the programming at the factory before they ship the units to the dealership. This would make sense because if a dealership was able to increase speed, most everyone would have this done and CC would loose the ability to control the speed of their units and if someone got hurt, it may come back on them in some way. I wish I would have known this when I made the video.

@@danielandrews9767 that makes sense, well I probably watched your video 10x before buying and even after for all the great info, will tune in for more on the onward if you get around to making some more videos on it thanks

Wow! That is crazy! So even at 100% state of charge, you still have regen-breaking. I never had an issue on hills, not going up or down. Plenty of power going up and with the way the regenerative breaking works with this cart, you'll actually have to use the accelerator to move downhill. There is a break resistor underneath the front cowl that will be getting hot, but that is what it is there for and it burns off that electricity extremely efficiently. That said, I definitely have not had a 2 mile stretch at 1100ft gain or loss in altitude but from what I have seen, I would feel completely comfortable trying that out. I think it would perform perfectly on that. As with any battery powered cart, you still are limited by range and that climb will probably eat up a lot of battery, but that's just part of an electric cart. I am not super impressed with the range of this cart. I really feel like it should go 40-50 miles for the cost, but it will only do about half of that comfortably and that's with just me on it. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

I did not do anything additional to mine to reach 23 mph. Is yours lifted with 23" tall tires? That may be the difference. If you are running smaller tires, your top speed will be lower. When you purchase or order your cart, the dealer or Club Car will program your cart to your specific driving mode that you request. At least thats how I understand it. Mine was in sport mode when I purchased it.

@@danielandrews9767 Yes that would explain it. I'm running 20 inch. Funny thing was the guy that delivered it said there is a way to modify the codes even more but said he wouldn't elaborate further.

So just to let you know, I have been meaning to make another video about this particular golf cart. There is a reason that it accelerates so quickly and does 23mph. It should not do that and any CC Golf cart that you buy will not have this same performance. In the video, I mentioned that when I purchased this gc, it was not lifted. The dealership put the lift on for me. Long story short, the reason it is faster than it should be is it was set to "sport" mode as a nonlifted gc. When they put the 23" tires on it, that increased the top speed, and since the motor produces so much torque, it also increased the acceleration as well. CC was not too happy about them putting a lift on this cart because they do not want their carts going over 19mph. Just something to keep in mind before you go to a dealer and wonder why theirs doesn't seem as fast as this one. They are not supposed to be this fast. I hope that doesn't deture you from purchasing one. It has been an excellent gc but it was not designed by CC to be this fast.

@@danielandrews9767 thanks for the clarification, we tested a non lifted yesterday and the acceleration was still plenty fast for us 😁. Ours is being delivered today, thanks for your video!

@@fmpwizard Awesome! You won't be disappointed!

@@fmpwizard Got mine and it will not stay charged, has a ghost drain somewhere. THE programming is awful . THE regen is set so high it brakes very hard with the slightest accelerator release, and the accelerator is super sensitive so you get a neck jerk both ways. NOT a smooth ride. YES it runs very fast. Club car needs to rethink this cart.

@@randbassman I noticed the ghost discharge too, in our case it's not a problem because I just leave it plugged in and use it to drive around town. Regarding the regen and acceleration, if you call your dealer, they can change the settings so that regen is not as strong, same for acceleration. Yours is probably set to sport mode. Hope that helps.

They took $700 off the total price. I paid MSRP plus all my additional options. Subtract $700 from that amount and that was what I paid. They also gave me the grab handles under the roof for free.

It will run it but when you change from lead acid, regardless if the batteries are AGM, FLA or gel, you will have to get a speed controller that has a setting for Lithium batteries or you will need to get a battery pack with a (BMS) Battery management system. Batteries with built in BMS are common. Just make sure you have a system that will keep you from over-discharging your Lithium battery. You don't want to turn you new battery into an expensive paperweight. Secondly, make sure you have the proper charger if you purchase this Lithium battery. Charging with an incorrect charger can be dangerous. Other than that, you should be just fine. I did a similar swap with an electric scooter and it worked just fine.

@@danielandrews9767 Thank you that was a great help. I was thinking of replacing the acid with ONE 48v Relion Lithium Ion battery. Any thoughts on that? Also, is there a charger you recommend? I was thinking of leaving the battery in the ATV and linking the battery with Ring clips to charge it directly to the wall outlet. Thank you again

@@Bennysnamehere You can definitely charge your battery that way and you will be just fine. It's slightly unconventional but nothing wrong with doing it that way. The battery that you are looking at from Relion is a Lithium iron phosphate battery which is a bit different from just a regular Lithium Ion battery. It's just a different chemistry. You are actually getting "in my opinion" a better quality battery with a slightly larger physical battery size. There are some advantages with using LiFePO4 batteries but just make sure you have the physical room for it in your ATV as it can be a bit bigger than Lithium Ion. You'll pay more for it but it should last a really long time and those do have a built in BMS (if you are looking at the InSight GC2 48v). As for chargers, Dakota batteries makes a good charger that will properly charge LiFePO4 batteries to 48v. What I would recommend you do is get someone on the phone with Relion and see what they recommend. That may or may not make a difference with their warranty system. They may have a particular charger that they want you to use to uphold your battery warranty.

@@danielandrews9767 just wow! Thank you for all your time!

@@Bennysnamehere You're welcome. Good luck with your ATV!

I have definitely noticed this same thing. They stay on very dimly, you almost don't notice unless you really are looking closely at in while its parked in a dark area. I have not had an issue where I feel they are draining the battery. LED lights pull very little amperage even when they are turned on and many times when you see LED's that are shining softly when they are turned off, it is caused by residual power. A direct connection to a battery source is not needed for them to glow like this and most likely the soft glow is coming from a capacitor. If you feel you are loose power that quickly, i would definitely have it looked at by a technician. If you have other accessories, maybe a radio or additional lighting, that would be a more logical explanation to me than the soft glow of your LED's. Hope this helps!

Daniel Andrews , thanks for your response! Our dealer said they contacted the factory and were told that it is normal for the lights to stay on. However, it supposedly did not drop the 10% while in their possession. We are going to keep a close eye on it and hopefully get the issue resolved. Thanks for the video-great information!

Daniel, could you please message me on my e-mail, I would like to ask you some questions ? mjbobkat@sbcglobal.net. Thanks

@@marakatnich2581 I emailed you.

That's not good. Sounds like it's time to get it to the shop. One bad thing about these units is if something does go wrong, you pretty much have to take it to a dealer. I sold mine about a year ago but it had no issues whatsoever.

It's a Garmin Fenix 6x Sapphire. Absolutely great watch if you like doing things outdoors. I highly recommend it.

Daniel Andrews thank you so much! Definitely an outdoors guy!!

Wow! That's crazy fast for a golf cart! I bet it's fun!

Can you ask your friend how?

Yes, they absolutely do. Just like many other golf carts. They even put a hatch under the seat where you can add on a storage bin. Comes in super handy and even doubles as a cooler for drinks if needed!

I can definitely do that. I'll make a video on that next week.

Daniel Andrews awesome. I just ordered one today. How long did it take for yours to come in?

Daniel Andrews also maybe a night time drive video. Thanks again

Mine was already at the factory so even though I ordered it online to get it built the way I wanted, I told the salesman that he had my permission to upgrade the one he had on the floor instead of ordering a new cart. He ordered all the parts needed and I had it completed in about three weeks.

Daniel Andrews awesome. Ya they told me it’s about 4-6 weeks out.

It was a great cart and I loved having it but the neighborhood we moved into is really small and the only use I had with it once moving here was going to the community mailbox. I didn't want to let it go but I just couldn't see having something so expensive to go check the mail with.

You will have to check with your local town or city laws. I have been places in Texas along the coast where you could register your golf cart and ride them on city streets as long as the speed limit on that street was 30mph or below. I do not keep mine registered, however I just use it in my neighborhood.