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CN Rail (CNR) vs CP Rail, and the Merger with Kansas City Southern 

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@DividendGardening
@DividendGardening 3 года назад
September 2022 update! I've just posted a follow-up with updates on CN and the CP-KCS merger proposal: Watch Part 3 here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VHsGETlC2NY.html If you missed the last update on the CN-KCS and CP-KCS merger proposals, you can watch that (Part 2) here as well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wHIk4MNZa6A.html
@speed150mph
@speed150mph 2 года назад
I’ve worked for CP and work for CN now. All I can say I feel bad for the KCS employees since CP is going to get it. CP drove me to hate my job, and it wasn’t that the job was horrible, but it seemed like the management under Harrison and Creel were deliberately doing everything they could to make the employees miserable and lower moral.
@speed150mph
@speed150mph 2 года назад
Also I want to point out that PSR is the worst swear word you can say to a railroader. Want to see one get angry, foam at the mouth, and start into a nuclear meltdown level rant, ask them about their thoughts on PSR.
@haroldb1856
@haroldb1856 2 года назад
Harrison and his protégé Creel fully embraced the mean spirited "culture of fear" style of management.
@SyvakK
@SyvakK 2 года назад
That's really interesting to hear that. I work for CP and from every contractor I've worked with, they hate working for CN and much prefer CP. We also have had a fair few managers come over from CN to a lower position at CP because (from what I know, although I haven't worked for CN), CP pays more, and from everyone I've heard CP treats its employees better. Could be department specific. Were you in T&E? or? I will add, if you were in management during the early Hunter days (early-mid 2010's) then yeah I can definitely see it. It definitely was that everyone in management seemed scared for their job.
@speed150mph
@speed150mph 2 года назад
@UCKWHBlZRYUq849Kng4QxAzw worked T&E as a work equipment maintainer from 2013 till 2017 at cp. left to become a Diesel engine mechanic in mechanical at CN. Got a $4 pay increase from what I got a cp, and while far from perfect, I’ve been a lot happier since I made the move.
@daywalker________7677
@daywalker________7677 2 года назад
Yet CP employees each got $1500 for being essential workers throughout the pandemic. Whereas CN employees got a thank you letter and badge.
@tpxchallenger
@tpxchallenger 2 года назад
I'm glad CP got it. My home team. My job interview back in 1979 I filled out the application, did the little test, and handed it in. Guy doesn't even look at it, just asks if I know anyone who works here. I tell him my brother's been a Carman helper for 5 years working a crane. "Okay, car shop, tomorrow morning. 7 o'clock. Steel toed boots. Don't be fucking late." Apprenticeship, just like that. Canadian Pacific Railway built western Canada, won two world wars, and is still a profitable company after 140 years.
@jeremiahjeremiah1319
@jeremiahjeremiah1319 2 года назад
Met some good dudes from CP. One welding Foreman and one engineer. I myself am a CN conductor. Have to say I'm leaning towards CN but still met some good people from the otherwise. Moving the economy a box car at a time
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
cn bought bc rail and other tiny railroads. cp gets kcs and that is fair
@codyhilton1750
@codyhilton1750 2 года назад
I was happy to see that the NTB approved CP however I will miss the beautiful KCS painted locomotives.
@MagnumLoadedTractor
@MagnumLoadedTractor 9 месяцев назад
Atleast the Canadian pacific paint scheme won't be boring anymore,man I miss the pack mans
@brian5606
@brian5606 2 года назад
I think CP Rail would likely be the better railroad on account if the CN is allowed to merge with the KCS it will hurt CP Rail. If that is allowed to happen that means at some point it appears CP Rail could fall from grace for not having enough customers to service leaving CN the almighty one in Canadian Railroading, that's what the surface board is trying to eliminate as which railroad is best for the customer base and economy.
@terrywallace8922
@terrywallace8922 2 года назад
The way I see it, NEITHER ONE OF THESE RAILROADS ARE FIT TO GET THE KCS! AND WHAT ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES WHO DEPEND ON THE KCS FOR EMPLOYMENT,AND KEEPING THEIR JOBS?!WHY IS THE STB EVEN ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE THE KCS!ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!AND NOT ABOUT SAVING THE RAILROAD WORKERS FROM LOSING THEIR JOBS!AND THE STB SHOULD BE ABOLISHED FOR ALLOWING THESE CANADIAN LINES TO TAKE OUR RAILROADS FROM US! SHAME ON YOU, STB! YOU HAVE AKREADT ALLOWED CN TO TAKE THE ICG,EJAND E AND THE OTHER CLASS ONES THAT WERE STILL RUNNING!
@blueshell6048
@blueshell6048 2 года назад
Update, as of 2 hours ago from when I’m writing this, CP completed its acquisition of KCS. Fantastic video
@benjlar1902
@benjlar1902 2 года назад
CP maybe had the first coast to coast but CN runs A LOT more freight and a lot more trains than they do
@chrisharty3627
@chrisharty3627 2 года назад
But not as efficiently
@benjlar1902
@benjlar1902 2 года назад
@@chrisharty3627 And you know that how? sources?
@VisionsOfOdin
@VisionsOfOdin 2 года назад
Wow, who would have thought........But Cp is more logistically genious. They run two lines across the continental divide. CN only runs 1.....if you're shipping from the coast, Cp has a lot more options to get it across the snowy mountains. Up the golden beaver. It's time for Cp to rise
@benjlar1902
@benjlar1902 2 года назад
@@VisionsOfOdin CN/CP do directional running almost all across the country where they run on each others track so not exactly true. and even with 2 lines CN still hauls a hell of a lot more freight/intermodal
@cpttankerjoe
@cpttankerjoe 2 года назад
But CN is owned by Bill Gates immediately giving Canadian pacific the win
@jordanschoenenberger4397
@jordanschoenenberger4397 2 года назад
The ICC would never approve CN, because that would give CN a monopoly on trains directly from the midwest to the gulf.
@deepspire
@deepspire 2 года назад
Likely not, as the ICC hasn’t been around in 40 years.
@jordanschoenenberger4397
@jordanschoenenberger4397 2 года назад
@@deepspire fine, whatever the modern equivalent is, you sniveling little nitpicker
@nak_0519
@nak_0519 2 года назад
@@jordanschoenenberger4397 40 years is a long time. Not a "nitpick".
@jordanschoenenberger4397
@jordanschoenenberger4397 2 года назад
@@nak_0519 Still the same thing, it's a nit pick.
@6484373
@6484373 2 года назад
PSR is the single worst thing to happen to the rail industry in a long time...
@markwellzero0
@markwellzero0 2 года назад
I would love too see the share holder's get a tonnage per terminal at csx from post 2017 and compare it to any before pre 17. There is a reason it is no longer published.
@955redavenger
@955redavenger 2 года назад
I own a couple shares of CP and I can say this is a good thing that CP is going to merge with KCS. I hope this has plenty of positive effects.
@cowboysfan6699
@cowboysfan6699 2 года назад
CP Rail is a horrible company run by foreigners like Keith Creel. Workers at CP Rail are treated like garbage. Canada should stop this merger and maintain control of its railways.
@955redavenger
@955redavenger 2 года назад
@@cowboysfan6699 I looked deeper and I sold my shares. You're right about that. They need to work on their own company instead of merging with another.
@cowboysfan6699
@cowboysfan6699 2 года назад
@@955redavenger Thanks for the reply Kevin. Keep researching what I said. Canada's railways need to be controlled by Canadians and the globalist scum abusing our workers need to go to prison.
@955redavenger
@955redavenger 2 года назад
@@cowboysfan6699 indeed. I agree with everything you said
@luke_atthat
@luke_atthat 11 месяцев назад
Great video ! High quality information ! I watch it on Nov 5 2023, after searching info on the Christmas CP train and I discovered the final merge in april 2023. I will watch your part 2 and 3. Very good job you did.
@samuelsmith2317
@samuelsmith2317 2 года назад
Precision Scheduled Like Planting? Love it!
@jeremyrousseauemond7070
@jeremyrousseauemond7070 2 года назад
Cool video mate! You deserve more subscriber
@daywalker________7677
@daywalker________7677 2 года назад
CN voter trust denied. Which I knew would happen. Overlap merger vs end-to-end merger... Of course CP was going to get it all along. It was an opportunistic bid for CN, whereas it was a necessary bid for CP. CN could have easily won the bid if regulators were going off the old rules before 2005. New rules benefitted CP tremendously.
@grandriverrailfan6088
@grandriverrailfan6088 2 года назад
2:32 The Canadian Pacific Railway wasn’t the first railway established in Canada. The Champlain And Saint Lawrence Railroad was the first established railway in Canada.
@ijxrxmy
@ijxrxmy 2 года назад
CPR is the first coast to coast railroad in Canada. That what he said in the video
@grandriverrailfan6088
@grandriverrailfan6088 2 года назад
@@ijxrxmy oh shit, he said it in the text thing 😂😂😂 my bad.
@iatif1995
@iatif1995 Год назад
The merger has happened between CP and KCS back in April 14.
@carlh4279
@carlh4279 2 года назад
CP never seems to clean their locomotives in Canada but when I see them in USA they are very clean.
@VisionsOfOdin
@VisionsOfOdin 2 года назад
Lots running big coal shipments out west or came from loads of weather systems in Alberta or bc or Saskatchewan
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 2 года назад
Haven’t seen a clean one in Milwaukee yet.
@carlh4279
@carlh4279 2 года назад
@@TheSjuris maybe in the US, they power wash them weekly, in Canada they seem to never wash them.
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 2 года назад
@@carlh4279 Milwaukee is in the Midwest and their trains are always dirty.
@carlh4279
@carlh4279 2 года назад
@@TheSjuris I've been there many times, but now I am on the "no USA for you list" for not disclosing my status. As long as biden Harris Pelosi are in charge, I have little interest in USA
@donnie2832
@donnie2832 Год назад
With all the counter offers, it reminds me of “Barbarians at the Gate” (the takeover of RJR•Nabisco)
@codyallan9222
@codyallan9222 10 месяцев назад
We might need a video on where we’re at today! So much has happened since this video
@farmertyler8087
@farmertyler8087 2 года назад
I watched this thinking this was a big huge channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers, then I went to like it and I was like wow, this guys going places
@sargentrowell81
@sargentrowell81 2 года назад
Hang on now....was Harrison the first one to come up with and implement Precision Schedules Railroading? We have that guy to that for 3 and half mile long trains?!?!
@jeramiahnguyen1800
@jeramiahnguyen1800 2 года назад
I worked for CN. Hated it. Lol
@goodsir7298
@goodsir7298 Год назад
You have really good videos
@chriscraft1334
@chriscraft1334 Год назад
I've always thought Grand Trunk Western & Central Vermont were Canadian National's two U.S. Subsidiaries & Soo Line is Canadian Pacific's U.S. Subsidiary.
@yogiperogy
@yogiperogy Год назад
Don’t forget CN’s Duluth Winnipeg and Pacific headquartered in Virginia Minnesota.
@railfanmaximstill7279
@railfanmaximstill7279 2 года назад
STB rejected CN's request to merge with KCS.
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
Thank God they did. Cn needs to pay for buying bc rail
@stephenheath8465
@stephenheath8465 2 года назад
What is so ironic that both are the true North American Transcon Roads
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 2 года назад
11:04 or 11:05 A new foe has appeared! CHALLENGER APPROACHING!!!
@caltrain908railfan
@caltrain908railfan 2 года назад
You deserve more subs
@curiousoli
@curiousoli 2 года назад
I just hope they will rebrand for something like "Transamerica Rail" or "TransPacific Rail" or anything else that sounds better than "Canadian Pacific Kansas City"
@ednorton47
@ednorton47 Год назад
How about North American Railway?
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B Год назад
@@ednorton47 Or Canadian Pacific Southern
@briangasser973
@briangasser973 2 года назад
Feel like I was watching the fight for Spirit airlines by Jetblue and Frontier. The higher bud always seems to win
@VideoPresence2020
@VideoPresence2020 Год назад
music is very distracting, making it difficult to listen to the narrative
@agentpr24
@agentpr24 Год назад
For your information, the CN as the head office in Montreal but for all the time Harisson was CEO, this was a font. Everything was decided and done from Memphis. As of today, in 09/2023, I don't know.
@victorhoe2321
@victorhoe2321 3 месяца назад
I am Canadian by naturalization. Two things about the Canadian National Railroad and Canadian Pacific Railroad; Firat, Canadian National Rail is a Crown Corporation made up of bankrupt regional rail lines after approximately WW1. Canadian Pacific is a self funded corporation to start. Second, the term "Royal" is named only after a member of the UK's Royal family grants a charter as in "Royal Nova Scotia Tatoo" or "Royal Bank of Canada".
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 2 года назад
They're both trying to survive. Both have their pros & cons.
@nicholaspatton1742
@nicholaspatton1742 2 года назад
You can think of Canadian Pacific for 1800s Canadians to think: Canada 'to the' Pacific - from the east out to the Pacific ( west).
@OfficialSEIC2K6
@OfficialSEIC2K6 2 года назад
What will happen to Kansas City Southern after the merger with CP?
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B Год назад
The railway will be called the Canadian Pacific-Kansas City Railroad with U.S. headquarters in Kansas City.
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
Cn cries
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B Год назад
@@ace74909 "cries" my tail! CN has enough from over the years with the purchases of the Wisconsin Central, Illinois Central, Bessemer & Lake Erie, Duluth, Winnepeg & Pacific, Elgin Joliet & Eastern and Duluth Missabe and Iron Range, etc.,
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
@@WAL_DC-6B cn is a greedy bastard that is what i am trying to say. now i think that cn is slowly on the way to bankruptcy
@rocky-yx8wr
@rocky-yx8wr Год назад
@@WAL_DC-6B and bc rail and savage alberta lol
@noelgenoway9360
@noelgenoway9360 2 года назад
CP was/is a better bid!!
@georgebenson6036
@georgebenson6036 Год назад
How much freight actually wants to go from Canada to Mexico or vice versa?
@fingernail3653
@fingernail3653 2 года назад
my dad works for KCS
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
maybe not for long ...
@cliffwoodbury5319
@cliffwoodbury5319 10 месяцев назад
I did not know that PSR was a Canadian railway concept. I always thought it was a concept by American rail minds.
@TheWizardGamez
@TheWizardGamez 6 месяцев назад
Canada is a thin country. They don’t have the width let alone ports to have rail fuckups. PSR allows for higher throughput while using the same 2-3 ports and super thin ground coverage
@petenielsen3453
@petenielsen3453 Год назад
CP in my opinion is the better of the two companies to deal with. CP has a far better track record than CN. CN has the idea they can do what ever they, and the devil take the hind seat. That is all I have to say
@sigmanfloyd7179
@sigmanfloyd7179 2 года назад
~ Actually, the only people who still think that the Montreal Cdns. are rivals with Toronto Maple Leafs are Toronto fans, everyone else knows that since the late sixties anyways, the rivalries are Toronto with the Detroit Red Wings and the Habs vs Boston Bruins. Just thought I'd clear that up. 😉👍🏻🇨🇦
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
speaking of the Montreal Canadiens ...holy shit !
@0fficialdregs
@0fficialdregs Год назад
BEARS VS PACKERS!!
@ryandionne6269
@ryandionne6269 2 года назад
Did you show the cn building in edmonton because I'm like an hour away from edmonton
@vmitchinson
@vmitchinson Год назад
I worked in that building. It is iconic. The basement started out as the main passenger station but cn moved the rail yard out of the downtown.
@naetz
@naetz 3 года назад
Great video
@DividendGardening
@DividendGardening 3 года назад
Thank you!
@안시선-g8p
@안시선-g8p 10 месяцев назад
감사합니다.
@GstarEdmsTrainProductions
@GstarEdmsTrainProductions 2 года назад
Cool!
@deeptoot1453
@deeptoot1453 2 года назад
I planted the like on time.
@SantaFe19484
@SantaFe19484 Год назад
It was a done deal with CP by the time I watched this.
@AlexCab_49
@AlexCab_49 2 года назад
KCS also on owns Ferromex, the Mexican railroad company so that means Mexico's railways will be owned by a Canadian company
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 года назад
Canada is taking over North America's rail commerce. Please help.
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
@@Pensyfan19 jealous..?
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 2 года назад
@@Pensyfan19 Think about all the U.S. companies with operations in Canada (Ford, General Motors, Walmart, Super 8 Motels, .... the list is endless!
@jah651
@jah651 2 года назад
@@Pensyfan19 I hope you guys realize the only thing Canadian about Canadian Pacific is the Canadian in the name. Owned and operated by primarily US Investors which was made evident when they voted to change the name to Canadian Pacific Kansas City (CPKC).
@treynolds94
@treynolds94 Год назад
We all know who came out victorious.
@carlh4279
@carlh4279 2 года назад
Bill gates is a major shareholder of cnr
@detroit8v715
@detroit8v715 2 года назад
I find both railroads lousy. CP has nothing but dirty ass raggedy junk GEs. CN who wasted alot of money building a new tunnel at Port Huron, MI. to Sarnia, runs hardly any more trains through it than before the tunnel was built. Neither railroad is worthy of KCS which has more class than CP and CN ever had.
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
It isnt about class , it is about money and CP and CN both have enough to fight over who gets KCS .
@allencoolman3330
@allencoolman3330 Год назад
Nice
@2kanchoo
@2kanchoo 7 месяцев назад
Pretty hilarious cp spends 27b and cn immediately does the same thing with an even shorter route to gulf of mexico, on essentially a handshake deal. lol.
@juliecsisztu5676
@juliecsisztu5676 6 месяцев назад
Only goods? Not people?
@crossovertrainfan8345
@crossovertrainfan8345 2 года назад
They should fight for it
@betsymani2734
@betsymani2734 Год назад
Who else is watching this after the cpkc merger
@JayJayAviation
@JayJayAviation 3 месяца назад
Everyone who sees this.
@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 2 года назад
Call me a chauvinist pig, but I'd be concerned if ANY foreign-owned railroad bought an American RR. However, I am a capitalist, also. 'Splain it to me.
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 2 года назад
Many American railroads have been bought by both Canadian rail companies.
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
the Dakota , Minnesota and Eastern RR (DM&E) , and the Iowa , Chicago and Eastern (I C &E ) were bought by C N ..
@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 2 года назад
KSU has been "delisted" on the New York Stock Exchange. KSU stockholders will be compensated in cash, and CP stock.
@msnow22000
@msnow22000 2 года назад
Genesee and Wyoming operate in Australia. KCS owns rail in Mexico. CP and CN are already operating in the USA.
@jeremiahjeremiah1319
@jeremiahjeremiah1319 2 года назад
Trust me in Canada it pisses me off that a foreign nation owns our 407 toll highway
@thecanadianrailfan2354
@thecanadianrailfan2354 2 года назад
cp now owns ksc
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
I changed my mind it's yay now
@atsf4931
@atsf4931 2 года назад
Well this aged poorly since CN is done for
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
Well cn got bc rail so CP deserved kcs
@Signal1072
@Signal1072 2 года назад
Well they’re doing better than Norfolk Southern
@stuew6
@stuew6 2 года назад
lately news Mexican Government officials have Given okay
@terrywallace8922
@terrywallace8922 2 года назад
When this man lmplemented precision scheduled railroading,he brought the end of the class one railroads!and now ,csxand other class ones have embraced this railroad-destroying concept!as a result of this, YOU the customers are now suffering from a lack of service and efficiency in delivering goods and services!AND this psr has caused thousands of workers to lose their jobs! And he opened the door to the destruction of railroads and economical opertunities for the railroads! Also,this has led to one man operation and has raised serious concerns about safety and the ability to serve the needs of the customers and consumers! Also, these one man crews will become a major disaster for both the railroad and the safety of the public! And many problems will arise in the operation of trying to get one man to do everything! For example, what if you have one man operating a train with five locomotives, and one of these units alarm bells. Ring,and the unit has a fire, and he is coming to a grade crossing, what can one man do?he cannot leave the head end,and put out the fire!AND HE WILL be in major trouble if this happens!for there is no grunted that this won't happen!AND , lord help him if he has a derailment with tankcars carrying hazardous and extremely dangerous chemicals! ,as well as flammable liquids such as fuel , lp gas, and gasoline,and diesel fuel! All as a result of this psr!this concept has NO ACE IN THE RAILROAD INDUSTRY! THIS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS THING TO EVER BE PUT IN PRACTICE ON THE RAILROADS PSR STINKS!AND SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO BE IN THE RAILROAD INDUSTRY, NOT EVER! TWO MEN CREWS ARE MORE SAFER THAN ONE MAN CREWS!AND IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, ONE MAN CAN STAY UP FRONT,AND THE OTHER CAN GO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE LOCOMOTIVES IN THE CONSIST.AND IF A FIRE STARTS, HE CAN PUT IT OUT!
@ace74909
@ace74909 Год назад
lac magantic and hinton train collision go brrrrrr
@jwrailve3615
@jwrailve3615 2 года назад
Wait so cp red is staying and kcs beautiful schemes are leaving? Lame…
@aviazoin
@aviazoin 2 года назад
cp
@kailanwarren2139
@kailanwarren2139 2 года назад
Go CP go
@samuelthompson7358
@samuelthompson7358 2 года назад
both are crapy companies, contacting them for cargo transportation is painful... simply nobody reply inquiries seem they don't care about getting new business
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
Their bank accounts are huge so they must be doing something right ..
@jeremiahjeremiah1319
@jeremiahjeremiah1319 2 года назад
The problem is, people have the opportunity to come from the ground up into management and super intended positions. Awesome for people that work hard but may not necessarily have any business's sense
@northwesttravels7234
@northwesttravels7234 2 года назад
Music is annoying.
@Troglobyte_2
@Troglobyte_2 2 года назад
In Québec WE ave cn and sometime WE Can see cp
@danatmatchvox
@danatmatchvox 2 года назад
the goverment for ave all CNs debt during privatisation
@ltmongoose1594
@ltmongoose1594 2 года назад
First dodge and jeep, now KCS, im tired of forgin fucking componys buyinng out american componies.
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
But it is ok for U S companies to buy foreign companies right ?
@goviacn1
@goviacn1 2 года назад
CP is American company fool
@train_chicken6143
@train_chicken6143 2 года назад
i hate cn lol
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 2 года назад
They don't care !
@davem9975
@davem9975 6 месяцев назад
Greed = no safety for its workers!
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