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CNC router X axis test run with Clearpath servo 

Funkenjaeger
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Initial test runs of the X axis of my new CNC router's X axis with Clearpath CPM-SDSK-3421P-ELN NEMA34 brushless servo motor. 35 pounds of weight attached to the X carriage to approximate the weight of a Z axis and spindle.
1250 ipm is a very respectable rapids rate, while 3000 ipm was just to see what the motor was capable of.

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@tech477
@tech477 3 года назад
1250 ipm = 31.25 m/min, 3000 ipm = 76.2 m/min, 35 pounds = 15.9 kg. Damn impressive.
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 3 года назад
3.125m/min and 7.620m/min though.
@perspectivex
@perspectivex 3 года назад
I'm surprised how little the frame flexes and that it also didn't slide a bit on the floor as the weight reversed directions.
@andrewnelson3714
@andrewnelson3714 2 года назад
Same, with that amount of inertia it must to be bolted down
@justinjuhan1635
@justinjuhan1635 2 года назад
Excellent, just what I was looking for, real world test. Thinking of using a couple of these in some automation we are building. This wasn't driven through a gearbox right? Just the rack and pinion?
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 2 года назад
No gearbox, but there is a 3.2:1 reduction (belt drive) in the drive assembly I'm using: www.avidcnc.com/pro-rack-and-pinion-drive-nema-34-p-226.html
@rusticagenerica
@rusticagenerica Год назад
So absolutely crazy powerful !! How do you drive those servos? With GRBL? Mach 3?
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 4 месяца назад
with a clearpath servo driver of course. gcode isnt a driver its instructions. software just creates the instructions. the CNC controller translates those instructions for the servo driver which by name drives the servo.
@petrasvestartas4359
@petrasvestartas4359 Год назад
Do you thing it is possible to mount Clearpath motor from the motor chassis itself? I know that there are typical 4 screws form nema23 motors, but are there any other mounting possibility outside those?
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger Год назад
I would guess that the answer is no, but you'd have to ask Teknic.
@vana-roosaairforces9231
@vana-roosaairforces9231 5 лет назад
Hello, do you have build threat anywhere ore something? what measures aluminium profile you used for x axis and what size linear rails?
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 5 лет назад
It is based heavily on the CNC Router Parts Pro series machines, so you can refer to their documentation (which is quite good) CNCRP uses metric extrusions, while I used 3060 (3"x6") for X. The linear rails are 20mm.
@TheNeilcoppley
@TheNeilcoppley Год назад
Is this a 12 nm
@METHIERO
@METHIERO 3 года назад
What is the inertia ratio for clearpath?
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 3 года назад
If I'm doing the math correctly, I came up with an inertia ratio of 1.54. 1" pitch diameter drive pinion, 3.2:1 drive ratio (motor to pinion), 11.4 oz-in^2 rotor inertia (clearpath 3432S-RLN), and I'll call the total load weight ~45lb (720oz).
@METHIERO
@METHIERO 3 года назад
@@funkenjaeger Nice
@imabeapirate
@imabeapirate 5 лет назад
Just don't do that for long; they will overtemp quickly.
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 5 лет назад
I'm interested to see how they fare thermally once I start doing test runs at the machine level. They do have mounting provisions for cooling fans, which I may add.
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 4 месяца назад
thats why fans exist.
@car9167
@car9167 3 года назад
speed is nothing. The motor should overcome only the friction. Tell us about acceleration
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 3 года назад
I've run it at up to 1G, which the servos handled - but that's pretty violent. I usually run at more like 150 in/s^2 (0.39G)
@car9167
@car9167 3 года назад
@@funkenjaeger Ok so 16kg X 10m/s/s/ is 160N. For a 5mm ballscrew pitch you would need only 0.13Nm of torque which is nothing for those motors. Probably the peak torque is 4Nm and that would allow you to create for short amount of time when acceleration to speed is needed about 5KN of force. So that would be close to 30G
@funkenjaeger
@funkenjaeger 3 года назад
@@car9167 Perhaps, but that seems like somewhat of an academic exercise. In my experimentation I pushed the motors to levels that were practical for my machine chassis - I didn't attempt to find their absolute limits in terms of acceleration. To take advantage of that level of acceleration, you would need a machine chassis designed from the ground up to handle it, and frankly I think that such a chassis would need to be constructed rather differently than this type of aluminum-extrusion-based CNC router. When I said that 1G acceleration was 'violent', that was in the context of what it was like to actually run the overall machine at that acceleration level through an adaptive (trochoidal) toolpath. I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations of how much benefit I'd really get from running high acceleration on the types of toolpaths I typically do - and frankly even 1G was well past the point of diminishing returns. With a 500 ipm (12700 mm/min) feed rate (quite aggressive for anything but the softest materials), 1G accelerates there from a stop within a distance of 5mm - so if you were machining a part with a lot of features smaller than 5mm (or using a toolpath that results in a lot of short moves, e.g. trochoidal down a relatively narrow slot) then higher acceleration could benefit you. That's rarely the case for me though, so I don't find it worth the trade of pushing the machine hard enough to shake it violently for minimal benefit in machining time.
@car9167
@car9167 3 года назад
@@funkenjaeger Completely agree with you. I was just curious how far from the theoretical value you can go but you can't with your machine/fixture. Understandable. It would be used only for positioning, nobody goes that crazy in machining mode. My servos are 1.8KW but I'm moving 3-400Kg.
@pantarottoa
@pantarottoa 4 года назад
what power is the servo? thank you
@derekrussell9925
@derekrussell9925 3 года назад
I would like to know as well. What specific servo did you use from clearpath? I have been interested for a while in building a CNC with these servos. Thanks and good work!
@DUIofPhysics
@DUIofPhysics 3 года назад
@@derekrussell9925 Read the description...
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