For the people watching this who don't know - one of the greatest things about this film is that Barry the baptist is actually a real hard nut from the east end, bare knuckle boxing legend lenny mclean. There's a book about him called the guv'nor
This film has one of the most well put together plots I've seen. Everything looms in together perfectly and combined with the fast paced action scenes and cockney dialogue its an all round good movie.
Having been brought up in Brixton and lived there from birth, (1943) til I got married in 1969, I can tell you that the dialogue in this film is as true to life as it can be, and the way things were in the 50s and 60s. My late mum was born and bred in Bermondsy and was a true cockney by the sound of Bow Bells. So critics of this film I tell you this, - you don't know your arses from your bleedin' elbows.
+Matt Kilb Really? It's a cracking film. Born, raised and lived in the East End for the majority of my life and other than being an over the top comedy, I can imagine the characters coming from my area
+oldproji I am out of Rotherhithe and to be honest with you i think this is a way over the top version of cockney i know and love. I have worked with people out of every part of London docklands and i have rarely seen people put it on as much has the characters in this film.
And having been born and bred in Edmonton- (or "E'mon'on"- NORF London), and having lived "dahn" there well into me adulthood, I can get your back on that one a hundred and ten percent, mate. Deffo completely legit.
So true! Its only as an adult that I can see how fucking shit dick van dyke's cockney accent was whoever coached him shouldn't have worked again! On a positive note in Snatch the woman who works in the bookie's when it hets robbed does an amazing cockney accent and she's american in real life!
im north walian but my dads sisters married sarf landaners[ww2[ they were from catford and Deptford [men[ and settled in dartford in the 50,s.. all my family were Charlton fans ..and id go with the old man and uncles bill and bob..to the valley[im wrexham fan by the wayp all I remember was geezer types ..rough looking men and women too.. woolwich station beck to erith then a bus to dartford… the old fella worked in euston [after his stint in welsh guards he went awol and wanted to stay down in London..udsed to tell me stories of fred bense [Willesden steam driver[ and how hed throw parcels off when theyd go up to rugby at 3 in the morning[Neasden junction.. rogues everywhere.....
My daughter is three, and whenever she comes to me with a picture she's done, or a completed puzzle, I always say, "Very nice, 'arry! What's it for?" She's started saying it now, and it's freakin' hilarious!
ojideagu Ok, I wasn't trying to say that you don't know what you're talking about. It's just that some New Zealanders speak really fast. And to us, cockney's don't speak that fast at all.
dave474c Well sure most English people don't talk that fast. The fastest cockney speakers work on race tracks and market stalls. Irish people talk faster.
This is Guy Ritchie's best film. Snatch was still great, but felt almost like a redux of Lock Stock. The gritty, the "Lan-Dan" swagger, the coolness and the fantastic dark humour that put a smile on my Chevy chase. A perfect film 👌🏼
"Cockney, Sonja, is an area in London where criminals live. The police don’t arrest them because, and they’re very strict about this, because they only slaughter their own. And they have funerals with horses and floral tributes that say things like “Mum” and “Stab”. -Alan Partridge
These guys, some of the stunts they pull. They’ll chain you to a car that’s been clamped, so the only way you can get yourself free is by phoning the council, but you can’t do that because they’ve shoved your mobile phone up your backside.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr This was in the late 80s, when mobile phones were like big black plastic bricks, with a big rubber breadstick sticking out of the top. It was agony!
@@JonSmith-cx7grmy phone ain't small I've got a Galaxy Note 8 it might be slim but I'm sure it's not going up anyones rear end not until I've finished with it anyway
Lennys story is quite fascinating. I recommend checking out the documentary about his life "the guv'nor". An interesting fact about the narrator - he was the cab driver in an American Werewolf in London.
The drowning chap is Tim Maurice-Jones, the Director of Photography having a little cameo in the movie. He also has a cameo in Snatch and gets pistol whipped by Benicio Del Toro in the opening scene. A sucker for punishment I guess ha!
Lenny McLean playing Barry the Baptist. Allegedly the hardest man in Britain. Thank you RU-vid algorithm for dragging up a 12 year old video in all it's 360p glory.
Love the gratuitous examples mate. I've been meaning to change up the way I end my phone calls, I might take "Now, if you don't mind" for a spin and see if I can piss off my whole family.
great clip and I agree that ordinarily a cockney would glottalise the /t/ but sometimes they do pronounce a /t/ "properly" as a voiceless alveolar plosive. i've never worked out how they decide whether to or not
If we want to emphasise something, we'll consciously say the "t". E.g. if you hear a mother call her child, she might say, "Oi, Tyrone, ge' 'ere naaa!". But she'll put a "t" on ge' if she's really mad.
That's Lenny McLean, the guv'ner. A old East end bare Knuckle boxer. Met him a couple of times. Massive hands. Glad I never got a right hook from him. Nice fella so long as your on his good side 😄 may he rest in peace.
Few people know that the guy who plays Barry the Baptist is a Shakespearean and a thesbian. I attended one of his art installations at a studio in Soho where he was also showcasing his new line of craft beer called 'Okay to be Gay', as in happy gay not the other kind. His real name is Tarquin and back in the 90s he was well known as the man who ran a rabbit shelter for unwanted rabbits. His reading of Faust at the Old Vic was quite something and you can't help but admire a man who doesn't kind wearing black fingernail polish and a mini skirt. His charity work is also legendary. He once donated his entire earnings from a season of Catcher in the Rye to the women's institute in memory of the suffragettes. Great guy. Really high, gentle voice in real life. Bit of a shrinking violet. Prefers the company of his rescue hamsters to people. Also I think he once beheaded someone with just his teeth. I might be confusing him with someone else now I think about it. I hope he never reads this.
Blindin' film. Cheers for that clip, pal. And yep, you're bang on, son: "Liability" would normally be pronounced "Liabili'ee" with a London accent- (very similar to how Barry said "Be'uh", as opposed to "Better.") Take it from a bloke who lived round people who talked like that for donkeys' years. That glottalled 'T' what you're on about ain't just confined to London and Essex talk though. I once had a girlfriend from Sheffield in Yorkshire who used to glottal her Ts and say stuff like "Be'uh" as well.
That could be his phone-voice though. I talk dead posh over the phone as well and so does me mum, but I'm rough as bloody glass-paper when I ain't on the phone. o.o
The term Punter has many definitions depending on the situation. In simplest form it means customer. But the term is mostly used in illegal circles like prostitution and the selling of goods on the black market. It also refers to customers who are naive, ignorant or stupid about what they are involved in. The american version for this term would be Johns or tricks in prostitution, or punks. hope this helped.
In my experience, most cockney's throw in a few non-glottal stop 't's now and then, particularly if they are trying to be more emphatic about something. It's dropped 'f's that always fascinated me as in "Spent some time wif me girl 'riend" almost like a softened P.
I live in a small South Australian town that is full of " Poms " in fact it's spot the Aussie here, there is no crime to speak of and we only have one copper I have a coffee every Sunday morning with a few Cockney blokes they look and sound just like Bazza... one knew the Krays one used to spar with Henry Cooper another was a doorman/ bouncer in an East end club .. interesting group with loads of story's and lots of laughs they are all " diamond geezers " that would help you out if you had trouble. saw one of them get up and scare the Jesus out of a bloke who was slapping a little girl hard, then he sat back down and continued his story.. It's a wonder there are any English people left in England there are so many here..
Love this guy one of England's finest actors yes bit of a thug street fighter loved to be called the guvnor guy completely turned his life around after realising he had a drink problem before he was a actor he was a street fighter and a door man RIP Lenny McLean
Neal Beard yeah one of the finest even brought out his own novel bout his laugh everyone has their opinion this is mine I'm entitled to it don't like it fuck off somewhere else yes I said it one of England's finest
Not many cockneys left in London anymore. You have to travel out to the surrounding countryside to find them. The "London accent" now is basically just a mixture of African and South Asian dialects.
Yes I agree, this is variation partly due to natural variation and partly due to the nature of scripted performances. The producer would go for the cut that he liked rather than a consistent accent I fear. The point with 'arry's 't's is interesting as he glottals one, has [t] for one and [d] tap for another, all perfectly normal variation in and around london, but one would expect this sort of character to bit more consistent i think.
