The fact that The Cockney Rejects stood their ground, remained loyal to ICF, and respected their camaraderie with Cass in a time when they could have just as easily caved in to the British Movement or the National Front is why this band will ALWAYS have my respect and support. One of the few punk bands that actually lived the narrative that they was selling on records. 🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
Spot on , there was a massive skinhead following at WEST HAM but when Cass appeared on the scene it caused a divide as there was also the NF & British movement infiltrating clubs back then including chelsea & C 18 etc as you'll know, i can still remember near upton park a huge white fist as a kid & asking my older brother what it was & him trying to explain it to me as i was only around 12 ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 It's funny. I watched a Broken Bones live video from '83 where some Millwall skins had invaded the stage and started battering some geezer. And the band were afraid to intervene. They seemed petrified. That never would have happened at a Rejects gig. 🥊🇬🇧🥊🇬🇧🥊
@@vjenkins6815 they would of welcomed it, i saw the rejects down brick lane about a yr ago they were busy chatting but i spoke to vince asked him about the Cedars club in Birmingham ⚒
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 I wonder if Vinnie suffers from PTSD from that Birmingham gig. It's said that Birmingham gig was one of the most violent gigs in human history. Claret, broken glass, and human bodies spread out all over the place.
@@vjenkins6815 according to Gary Bushell they held there own against huge numbers of brummie skins & ran em out the place with there minders who were ICF member's 😭
Proper bloke is jeff honest, working class and loyal, he'd never let you down and would always stand his ground. Even if the guy did break about two legs, sorry Jeff 😂
All in all ,think he answered the questions well enough .Followed Cockney Rejects when they first came out . Quite a good Punk band and could play a bit too .
stinky turner great front man from a great band saw them loads of times in the early days in the bridge house ect still the best gigs iv been to thanks for the memories
nice I went to that game too 1981 at Wembley as you said great times o those memories lol and during half time I saw some of the band drinking in the bars at the stadium a real band of the people cheers mate
Jeff Turner: Im not condoning it but I will sing about it and in a round about way kind of glamorise the whole violence scene and then ask what was that all about? no Jeff you Fackin Laved it!!!
Great interview, amazing band. Can't wait to see them play the Bridgehouse 2 in March! Ps that's a photo of Jeff's brother, Mick, behind him with the guitar. Equally as handsome so I guess that caused the confusion ; D
In 79 I was part of the Newcastle firm stabed 3 times broken jaw fractured scull from brass knuckles it was fuckin hard times football ain't what it used to be back in the day I fuckin loved it Thoe story's for the grand kids in about 10 years hahaha
MrHodgeheg123 Were you never young, bored and having no future to look to? Life in the Newcastles, Glasgows, East End of London etc. wasn't the same as Tunbridge Wells, Bath or Cheadle fuckin Hulme
Great gig at Dundee a couple of months back by the Rejects and the Charlton Lads were in attendance yet again. I have to say nobody held a candle to West ham's firm back in the day.
@@joemeek8040 Who is? Never read Pennant's books. I'm Charlton from the East End. I know a lot of west Ham lads. My Charlton mates were east End. We have a mutual disrespect for wall. Went to many away game with them, so trust me, nobody came close to those lads. Best firm in their day, by far!
these guys are cool.. i drove them around new orleans picking them and other bands up for social chaos in 99.. great guys had a blast with all of them...
great time for the rejects as a paddy that lived around stratford for a good spell i had no love for the tans but east end changed my mind they are the salt of the earth and i have lived and worked in a lot of countries sorry i never ran into the boys
Yeah have to admit at times hooligans and the firms going at each other got blown out of hand. Fair enough if there's scuffles in derby games but it was between teams who had no immediate rivalry.
Times move on, it is 2016 now, there are many types of social behavior that is no longer accepted. This type of lifestyle was the norm for a lot of people back then. That is how it was.
I loved my.hooligan days with Newcastle, I alwaus wondered in the back of my mind how I'd react if I met anyone from the rejects in a major ruck, it never.happened tho!!
The political aspect is rubbish, like they simply had to acknowledge it as relevant to not lose aggro points, but for a band talking to media etc they're legit. That's just my impression though.
Punk was middle class hedonism, I've no time for 'ex-punks' views, why do you think working class punks were viewed as such scum and degenerates while all these buzz-bands in London were seen as visionaries and revolutionaries?
You’ve right there. Punk in Britain was as classist as anything. The middle class ‘ intellectuals ‘ only needed an instant of Nazis or Thuggery at one of the more gritty bands’ shows and the whole scene got demonised . 👍🐢
My mate Chad was at that gig in The Bungalow and they absolutely smashed it. He has loved them ever since. Jeff n co, decent and talented. Chad and i walked through the Winter Gardens, DECADES later, Jeff REMEMBERED his name. That is class...end of 🦁💕
I admired the Cockney Rejects back in the day. But then music moved on, and so did they. The Rejects became a hard rock band and produced some great music. It's sad to hear this frontman almost bragging about hooliganism all these years later. It's so mindless and puerile.
He's not boasting at all, he's answering questions and stating how he's not proud of what he got involved in. The same hypocrites criticising here probably pay-to-view 2 boxers knocking each other around a ring - how pathetic is that?
I feel like after that riot where the Rejects were fighting for their lives and tons of people were fucked up and it derailed their career and oi in general they probably could have turned it around but given their political climate in the UK and the environment they had been raised in that they were pushed towards whatever kept things moving. Ultimately it was shortsighted. But whatever. Those early singles and the first two LP's are copied by most bands (predecessors like Cock Sparrer notwithstanding) and always poorly. Major Accident, The Rejects, and Sparrer had the best oi! hooks of all time.
