One thing folks seem to forget when reviving early 2000s cartoons is the anime influence. Code lyoko was one of those shows and evolution seems to have tossed that out the window.
More than a sequel, I think a prequel has all the potentials. Like showing the creation of Project Carthage, the creation of XANA, the escape of Schaeffaer and Aelita after Anthea's disappereance, the creation of Lyoko and XANA's going mad. Making It 2 seasons 26 episode each and voilà.
Yes. Code Lyoko is a show I look back on fondly, but I never watched the whole series until a couple of years ago. I must say that as an older viewer now, the entire secret government project concept was very cool to me.
@@codename1176 the cast is already diverse with multiple ethnicities. For starters Yumi is literally japanese, Milly and Tamiya are Russian and African
A huge two hour video discussing in length Chronicles and Evolution and other Code Lyoko stuff in between? YES. YES. YES. (also a fellow Kingdom Hearts fan I see, that's awesome)
I have to say I liked the way the original series ended were there some loose ends sure but it didn't bother me too much they never went in enough with aelitas mother for me to care
Basically Aelita moves with her mother to the hermitage and have a dinner to kind of celebrate their victory and Odd finally settles with an American girl
Now THIS was an absolute treat, my guy. Excellent breakdown- watched the whole thing. Fantastic all around. Honestly, pretty much agree with every take you had. Even if Chronicles isn't all that perfect, it was incredibly refreshing regardless of any criticism I have. Do consider doing more CL stuff- those would surely be fun watches as well. Here's a bunch of thoughts I saved until the end- *Evolution* 12:08 - In Exposure, Aelita mentions that she was homeschooled. To be fair, that doesn't necessarily mean she didn't have friends, but surely a considerable amount less than she would have had (whereas in Chronicles, she went to Kadic, interestingly enough !). 17:19 - You've legit justified Evolution Sissi for me. Thank you, kind sir lmao. I've never crossed those bits. 26:55 - Ah no worries there- He used it, but it looked pretty nerfed. The main instance I remember him using this in was against his clone in False Pretenses. 28.36 - To be fair, by recreating the sectors, at the root of it, that'd surely just be a headache for more ground to cover. That being said, I have taken any reason for their return- let alone their inclusion from the getgo, but unfortunate circumstances as you theorize would indeed be unfortunate. 48:18 - Not to mention, Ulirch's bit in False Start about those that die don't come back... it still spooks me that he said it so confidently, mind you, him, not Jeremie overflowing with theory like usual (Ah nice, you brought that up). 53:27 - Lazy writing go brr ohohoho. Mfw I knew you were saving that for last. 1:02:44 - Nah, he says the same thing in the French version. Furthermore, Season 2 is actually weird imo. I absolutely swear, anecdotally & possibily irrelevantly in terms of original writing, that the animation matches the English version. A simple justification bandaid for this could honestly be that he's scuffed the program before during design and goofed chunks of his own memory. Actually, additional weight to this is that even before the RTTP is discovered / rediscovered in that moment, he was still counting project days on only June 6th. 1:03:22 - That works too ohooh... although, that project day count consideration just rewired my brain lmaooo *Chronicles* 1:16:59 - I was actually pretty alright with the amnesia bit. It could mostly just be the nostalgic beat relative to Season 1, but honestly, I thought this thread was not only cleaned up pretty neatly, but also tied into the overarching events rather well. The whole initial get-together at the hermitage with such a warmly articulated atmosphere with nobody but your closest lads you haven't seen for a hot minute (viewer moment ohoho) hit kinda home. It was really welcoming, I felt. 1:17:52 - Honestly, I thought the flashbacks were solid in their paced increments. In my mind, I wasn't looking for a quick Wikipedia recap, I wanted a cohesive interconnected story with a consistent tone. There were some nice additional seeds in those flashbacks that coincided well, such as the seed of the Green Phoenix markings in the sewers (eyyy you mention this too ! Spot on !), the early introduction to the Carthage-esque riddles, etc. 1:18:48 - Ohhhhhh the pain xD I bruhed so hard when I figured that out. I was honestly taken aback with the incredible amount of elaboratation on the events of the Prequel + Season 1, but then to find that the rest of the whole series was literally compressed into just about a singular event absolutely whiplashed me- genuine p a i n. It surely could have been so much better. 1:20:01 - Ahhh to be fair, that was a big boi. 1:20:22 - OHOHOHO LOVED IT. STAAAAAKES. WEIGHT. Additionally, to be fair, albeit incredibly bruhmode, a head injury of such gravity doesn't *explicitly* (emphasis on explicitly) equate to death or loss of consiousness. I feel like she talked and I'd probably feel better if she didn't should she have (reading back, it looks like she starts to goof eventually), but I don't care enough lmao. 1:21:06 - Thank you again, sir. I like to hear that. I must have skimmed that bit or assumed too hard, fresh from a retcon the size of an artistically unconstrained forehead ohoho 1:22:16 - If I'm not mistaken, this was actually the catalyst in Franz's decision to bring Aelita to Lyoko- to save her, as virtualization would repair her, and in turn, preserve the freshly-planted backup in her head (I thought it was another part of Code Down before I reread the ending there omegalel). Imo, this justifies their virtulizations a decent lot more than merely running away into a computer, instead, utilizing it for a critical benefit. 1:32:02 - Whoof the "destiny" bit. Kinda meh I thought ohohoh. Poetic, but meh. 1:32:26 - Truuue. I don't hate it myself, but I do feel the slight cringe. *Except* for Walter- he was done very well. 1:34:50 - Eh, to be fair, over the course of the original series, it could easily be interpreted that XANA was already on the path to becoming more human. He learned emotion (and how to manipulate them; his failure in Ghost Channel actually revolved around his lack of understanding the nuance in humanity), progressed to possessing humans, articulated more emotionally through spectres, & William. That's it though- it really should have never escalted beyond a desire. Completely agree on the "oh it was just a bug" bit xD 1:36:37 - No, don't remind me of that. That's illegal. That being said, suepr happy Jeremy was on Lyoko in some form, but eternal cringe. 1:40:47 - Definitely neat, but I'm still kinda meh on it. XANA shouldn't have lived imo, but the redemption was cool, literal humanity arc aside. The Lyoko recreation is neat though as a static forever-existing place. Too many memory shenanigans throughout though. Loved the translation / real-world Lyoko warrior bit- just like season 4 but hella more lit because it's treated like an incredible one-time event, the absolute climax, and it's XANA who makes it possible. 1:47:48 - Really good points about Mago's backstory & lack of interaction with Aelita. 1:52:47 - B r u h m o d e
What Lyoko needs is a reanimation in the form of a small movie series (like Digimon) or a straight up Netflix remake. I really hate the dated animation and full potential in these books not used to it’s full merit. This really well crafted original story deserves the modern day treatment, not a couple novels with basically a filler plot. Had no idea they even made books until I stumbled upon this video. Good stuff, btw.
Absolutely agree. And with the popularity of VR and AI increasing with the metaverse and what not, a series about kids who find a virtual world that interacts with the real.world would totally take off. Sorta like how avatar the last Airbender did in recent years.
As a Code Lyoko fan, I loved this analysis! I loved how you mentioned the differences in XANA's methods from Evolution and Chronicles. This was worth staying up and watching.
one of the few things I liked in evolution was that William finaly got a chance to shine/got redemption but like you've said they could have so much more with him
This is really inspirational to see length wise from such a small channel. I love watching video essays and really don't know how or where to start making my own, but seeing a video like this doing well gives me hope. Now it's just a matter of getting started haha. Really glad this came up in my recomended feed. Thanks for the 2 hours of solid content.
Been a huge fan of code lyoko since childhood. Was definitely a core memory. Always wanted to know the lore and background of the show - they touched on in but never revealed anything much more. Like the men in black, where did the mom go, the whole organization etc. I learned of Evolution when it first aired and didn’t like it. And just recently did I find out about Chronicles. My childhood questions have finally been fulfilled . I see the books as a more “mature” flushed out narrative where the original is limited due to the nature of it being a children show. So glad I found this video.
In regards to the RTTP and memories, I say it's like a cloud backup. When an RTTP is triggered, it takes their memories of someone scanned, saves them, and at the point in time the RTTP reverts the world to, pastes them back onto the consciousness of that same person in the past. The physical body is completely different as we see their injuries (broken bones, amnesia from brain damage, whatever condition was in killer music) gone after the RTTP. Edit: I like the ideas and closure in Chronicles, and it at least feels like Code Lyoko except for the very last bit. I don't appreciate how easily XANA had a redemption. EVO doesn't really feel the same thematically, look the same, or close the questions the fans had, plus it doesn't have its own ending and instead leaves events on a cliffhanger. I speedread through 2 of the books when I discovered them, then had a moment of reflection where I realized the remaining two books were the only new official CL content I would ever find. So I waited a few months before I reread and finished all of Chronicles and it left me with a sense of melancholy. Things were done. Not perfect, but questions were answered even if I didn't agree with them or were only possible because of a retcon. And then I found out Evolution wasn't a fan project, but an official canon continuation. Imagine going from having closure to expecting a better ending than what I had already accepted, and then getting EVO. That being said. I love this series and thanks for 2 whole hours of your thoughts and examination.
The process is a little different, but it's essentially the same result as the theory I proposed regarding the RTTP. Very interesting, though. It's always cool to see how two people can see something in several different ways! EDIT: I see you added more, lol I’m really glad you liked it! Also, while I didn’t have that experience with Code Lyoko Evolution like you did, I did have a similar experience with another show, so I can kinda feel your pain on that.
Good show my guy, as odd would say, "Nice one Einstein." Seriously though I'm glad you introduced me to the books of code lyoko because I straight up assumed evolution was the "only" sequel. Also the way you explain it is spot on amazing, I'm definitely going to read all 4 books.
I did feel that much of the Chronicles book series had a fair few inconsistencies/retcons that could be really hard to swallow. Aside from the things Commander Wof brings up in this video, there are things like entirely writing out the so-called "virus"/missing memory fragment and putting in the whole "copy of Lyoko in her brain" thing instead; a few places' layouts being radically different in some obvious ways that are easy to pick up on; Aelita having attended school rather than be homeschooled, despite the fact that Delmas and Jim somehow recognized a photo of Franz Hopper but didn't connect the little girl with him in the photo with his daughter who supposedly attended school when Hopper was teaching there; the apparent lack of Return To The Past; the Subdigitals ("Ceb Digitals"?) having a noticeably different setup and style of music; and the plot of the Replikas clearly never happened as opposed to just not having been discussed, given how the books handle the discoveries of the First City and Mirror, XANA's convoluted method of translating the Lyoko Warriors with their powers to the real world, and the complete absence of the Skidbladnir having ever existed. All in all, I considered the books a pretty all right read, only if I think of them as entirely AU to the original series instead of trying to slot them into canon in my mind.
Wow, this review is amazing! You went very in-depth on the strengths and weaknesses of both Chronicles and Evolution. You even somewhat improved my opinion of Chronicles which while still a bad series, isn't quite as terrible as I initially thought. The retcons that series made along with some other story decisions like William's greatly reduced presence, the story trying to redeem someone as evil as XANA, and Aelita never having any interaction with Hannibal Mago, the man who indirectly ruined her life, just turned me off. However, there's an issue both Chronicles and Evolution have that I was hoping you would mention. Both continuations bring back XANA from the dead. I've always felt that bringing XANA back after his death in season 4 was a bad idea. XANA coming back undermines Waldo's sacrifice and merely turns it from something that was going to kill XANA once and for all into merely a temporary vacation from him. Let's have death mean something and not turn into something out of a comic book where death is more like an inconvenience or being in coma. Let's do something different. A human villain is a great idea, and I do like the idea of the human villain being someone that Waldo previously worked with and this person having his own supercomputer A rogue member of Project Carthage who exemplifies Waldo's fears of the project being used for evil. Heck, let's spice things up and add the Men In Black back as antagonists as well. This could make for three sided war: The Lyoko Warriors being the heroes trying to save the world, the Rogue Project Carthage member who made his own supercomputer for his own evil purposes, and the Men In Black who are willing to put everyone down by either imprisonment or death to keep stability to the world.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! And you're right, I can't believe I didn't think about how XANA surviving would impact Waldo's sacrifice! The fact is, XANA is so intrinsically tied to Code Lyoko that to have a series without him feels wrong. It can be interesting like the idea you proposed, but I just can't imagine Code Lyoko without XANA. Bringing them back does lessen Waldo's sacrifice, which serves as another reason why the story probably should've just ended after season 4 like they intended. After everything I've thought about and learned on this nearly two year journey, I think the only way that we could get answers to the lingering plot threads and questions without lessening the story and impact of the original ending would be to do a midquel season or movie like Sophie suggested. It gives the writers the chance to wrap up the overall narrative better without changing the ending, and we get more Code Lyoko! In my opinion, this is the best case scenario for a "continuation" of Code Lyoko.
Wow finding this gem of a video was really a saving grace for this monday! I really liked the very detailed analysis of code lyoko, ESPECIALLY the cronicles since I barely knew they excisted
A 2-hour video about Code Lyoko? You just earned yourself a subscriber. I re-watched the original series when I was in college and even watched several episodes of Evolution just to see what it was like. I wasn't aware of the existence of the books until this video so I plan to read those soon. I know they may not be great but anything related to Code Lyoko that isn't Evolution I'm interested in. Thanks for sharing the translation links!
I just realized that I forgot to include the poll results for the overall thoughts on Evolution, so here they are, in the same order as the other responses. If you watched Code Lyoko Evolution, what were your thoughts on the ending? Provide reasons, if you can, on why you felt the ending was or wasn't satisfying and conclusive: Decent on it's own but awful as a continuation of the original series Bleh. Bad decisions, bad actors, strange and non respectfull episodes with the literaly bible... i rlly hate how they implemented things to real life and the changes to lyoko. the season's quality is pretty amazing . i also hate the useless character luara , like wtf is she doing kind of a bummer cuz its live action. the specters walked so slowly Decent, happy that we got something. People give it to much shit for being live action. far duller than the original should have honestly continued with the same premice and setup but have xana return as he did and the 2d should not have been replaced with live action the mix of 2d and 3d is what made the show so unique in the first place Did not like it. I honestly did not even like the newer updated animations. Preferred the older animation. The story was there a bit but not executed well at all. My favourite and the best “live action based on a cartoon tv show (not animated movie)” (that continues the original plot). By default due to how bad and low the majority of live action tv shows based on a cartoon generally fall. Its not on par with the original but its not the worst thing ever (ehem dbe, tla). Overall a 6,5/10 , the acting could be better, xana attacks couldve been majorly improved by basic lightning effects shooting out of hands, but animation wise and storywise its good. its a ok continuation and has some rewatch value. Too bad it ended when it was almost getting almost on par with the og first season quality. The character designs are perfect but it's not like the original Code Lyoko it's too much realistic Code Lyoko Evolution is by definition, wasted potential. The Live-Action was honestly a bad decision, the whole show feels like a Disney Channel sitcom, with the acting level of a CW show. The Actors do look the part and I know they're doing their best with the material they have, but with most of them, they have very inconsistent acting. They either act differently than the originals or they try but they still always suck in most scenes. Having Xana back fills me with dread because I was hoping for the new villains to shine more, but even Tyron is a very weak antagonist. The only goon thing I like is The Lyoko Scenes, I really do love the 3D in this sequel series. Overall, it's ok. (Sorry for the long answer) hmm... 3d parts are good enough but bad acting and low budget environment on live action. I mean lycee lakanal (inspiration of kadic) is exist. they could rent the garden during summer vacation. Wasted potential and poorly executed.
CLE wasn't good. But as a kid I was stunned by the improved animation quality. And my only major disappointment with the ending is that it was a cliffhanger that got canceled and never resolved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
idk if its just the nostalgia speaking but, If they made a sequel they should definitely go back to the old art style. Of course make it hd. But keep that same feel so it doesn't feel foreign like Evolution felt. The 3d models in Evolution looked too different in my opinion. Story-wise they definitely could have more of a redemption for william if they pick up from s4, or i would be okay if "Season 5" was a remake of the evolution story just in the lovelable 2d and 3d art style. And of course bring back the original voice actors. (I know this is a year late but, I've been getting back into Code Lyoko, feeling the hype for the show and lore all over again haha)
I came here after randomly looking up code lyoko amvs for the first time in over 10 years. Glad to see people are still talking about the show that inspired me in so many ways
If they kept every part of evolution the same but said the program they were fighting was the one the original one was meant to destroy then the show would be vastly improved on a narrative level.
i just finished watching code lyoko and wondered if i should invest time in watching / reading the sequels. part of me wants to keep that purity of the og show but after watching this ill be willing to give both of them a shot and then ill come back to give my opinions on the sequels
In my opinion, Evolution is not worth the time. You might enjoy Chronicles, especially since you haven’t read it yet and the first time was more enjoyable for me. Though that may be different for you, since you’ve had most of it spoiled now, lol. It’s up to you, but remember, just as I said at the end, the original works as it’s own ending, and since the original creators had little to no input on the sequels, you can treat them as non canon if you don’t like them.
If I could give this video more likes I honestly would. The amount of dedication and care you put into talking about the series as a whole is honestly beautiful. And I love how at the end you hoped for the best for those who worked on Chronicles and Evolution. Though I joke about how terrible Evolution is, it's nice to see positivity and not malice directed at those responsible. This is an amazing video and I think all fans of code lyoko should give it a watch :)
IMO, a good sequel should to three things: 1. Answer the questions about Carthage and Anthea and stuff like that. 2. Have lasting redemption for William, Sissi, and Jim. 3. Give relevance to minor characters that didn't have as much importance as they probably should (eg Taelia, Sam, Patrick). This is also the least important one.
Wait a second, Aelita got shot _in the HEAD_ in Chronicles?! That's not the kind of thing you can just gloss over! And yet, it's still somehow perfectly in-line with the tone of the series.
@@CommanderWof I'd say it just accelerated Hopper's plan to hide in Lyoko. After all, the scanning process would fix it. I wonder what else the Scanners could fix, outside of also being used for teleportation between terminals.
Separate comment here for my opinion: I believe that the series could benefit from either a reboot or by using the books to produce a continuation from where season 4 left off. With the right adjustments, it would be amazing to see the books come to life as an animated series.
Ooo, I hadn’t considered that, and it should work, too! Schaeffer’s video diary was unaffected by the Return to the Past, so it makes sense that a scan of the photo on the supercomputer would be immune, too!
this video is old but…tbh the acting for the live action was bad but on par for what i know of french live action shows geared towards children. Other than that, I loved this deep dive and i’m excited to finally read the written sequels! I had no clue there was such a huge passionate fandom around this show that alive in the current day..
Just realised the weirdest part about the show doing absolutely nothing with the Project Carthage lore after Season 2 - they kept teasing it in the end credits! Every single episode since S2E01. That's 71 flippin' episodes with that end credits sequence. They even spoiled Franz Hopper's real name. Why bring attention to it at the end of every episode if it plays no role in the story of Seasons 3&4? That's just rude.
Cool video, been a long time since I've looked at any of the media of code lyoko, but really interesting stuff, brings back a lot of memories haha! One thing I do recommend, small edits of the audio when there were mispronunciations and such to remove them would make this flow a lot smoother without taking away the feeling your video gives. More of a small thing but it helps
I'm glad you liked it, and yeah that was a problem with the old footage, as I was very inexperienced back then. I actually cut out quite a bit already, but some of them were too close to other words that I couldn't make some of them work. That, and I became very impatient with myself for how long I had procrastinated, lol. I considered rerecording the whole video, but then it would never get done, so I only redid the parts that were either really bad or outdated.
so true thank you very much we need a third series of code lyoko and/or a continuation of evolution please and ais and programs based on xana and lyoko
Really good video! I love the way you went though all the different points and agree with a lot of your thoughts. I definitely preferred the books ending to Evolution and also feel that both did not really conclude the story in the best way. I liked the idea of a redemption arc of Xana but the fact that he is almost instantly just recreated takes away from everything. I've always love the character of Xana, as the name suggests lol, and appreciated how the books took a very different look at him. Especially since in the OG show they make reference to Xana once being good. I just wish his turn to evil was more explained and would love if they did a prequel, though it will never happen. Great video and analysis and I am very interested to see what fans come up with next.
1:05:00 It is technically from the show it’s the track they use during scenes when the characters are sad like during a misunderstanding heart break but in evolution is off I think this might’ve been a cover If you want an example track down the episode from season 3 where Ulrich lost his body I think I might’ve been mistaken but they use that track a lot
You’re right, the piano feels very similar to that piece! The only thing I’m left wondering about is the guitar rift, which I swear I’ve heard in the show somewhere. Either way, it’s strange that they did a rendition of this track but none of the others.
In the case for Laura, I do live with a programmer and had a professor who is prolific to put it lightly. But there’s a couple things I can do better than them, mostly just approach and design. So Not much, I’m very novice, but coding relies on the thought process of the developer, and no matter how good you are, you can’t change how your mind approaches things in an instant, so maybe she’s very smart at super technical thinking but bad at figuring out superficial design and function such as a vehicle.
After re-watching Code Lyoko I realized that even the old show would have huge difficulties bringing in a new audience. First off all the streaming services I have seen but the origin story in season 3 which leaves people lost at first. Also the first season is almost all filler and the voice acting in earlier episodes was not great. These all create a huge barrier to entry for newer fans entering. If Code Lyoko is going to go mainstream it would need a remake eboot. This would be a chance to improve the animation quality both in 2D and even more so in 3D. Alot of filler episodes could be cut too. Maybe show how Jeremie got his fear of being virtualized too by having him go in in an earlier episode and get wiped out so that later on he could have to overcome his fear to save Aelita. It kinda bothered me in season one that he was suppose to be in love with her but wasn't willing to go to Lyoko to see her. Maybe give him healing powers but little to no combat ability to explain why he would only go if necessary. For seasons 2 - 4 maybe make some of the plots less repetitive (such as Aelita getting kidnapped and brought to Lyoko so many times, and overuse of the spectors). Evolution had some good ideas but were implemented poorly. The specters not trying to finish off the characters after stealing the data was strange. Maybe they were worried they could not get away with violence in live action. Laura could have made a good villain. Just change the plot to have her by the supercomputer by herself to sabotage the Back to the Past program. Then after they decide to kick her out Jeremie re-writes the program to erase her memories (maybe say he had started to write the program for William to explain why he had most of it written). But it is not perfect and she still has a few memories and remembers the numbers on the card that Tyron gave her even without having it after seeing an ad from his company and gets in touch with him and starts to work for him. Many of the events of Chronicles could be worked in, but the genre change would not work. It would need to be made more action-oriented. Maybe all sides find ways to use their powers in the real world. And ditch the whole XANA being redeemed since XANA's whole appeal was a faceless AI threat.
The idea of Jeremie overcoming his fear of going to Lyoko to save Aelita is so brilliant that I can't believe the idea never crossed my mind, and that the writers didn't think of it either! Imagine if that happened in the finale!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I'd love to post more and I've even started working on a script for a new video, but I recently got a new job that takes up most of my time, and I also have a project I'm currently working on. I'll definitely make more videos, I just need time to get my life sorted first.
To explain certain things such as the wolf that haunts aelita, Carthage and the men in black the show would need a prequel strictly based on aelitas past. It could also answer certain questions that we would otherwise think would only be answered with a sequel. Ex why xana wants to destroy humanity
@@CommanderWof Also I think they could use a prequel to explain who the group of people are that's in Waldos picture. The picture is shown on the second outro with a group people dressed up in tuxedos. The guy in the picture that's kinda standing next to Waldo has pink hair, well it looks that way at least.
I feel like you didn't mention one of the most important differences between chronicles and the original series : Aelita was only having home lessons instead of going to Kadic and becoming Richard's friend, which is a bit more of a problem since Richard's role is overriding. Also, I find very hard to believe that Prof. Herz did absolutely nothing when she saw Aelita materialized from Lyoko in the first place, even though she still had all her memories. That beeing said, I agree with pretty much everything you said :)
Was it confirmed that Aelita didn't go to Kadic in the show? I honestly don't remember. Either way, you make a good point that Prof. Hertz would've done something earlier once she saw Aelita for the first time. That's definitely a plot hole I missed.
Honestly (& this probably just me) I feel like code lyoko would make a really cool game in nowadays graphics & devises, either as a vr game or stuff like xbox, playstation, switch, ext play as your own designed character or navigate a team like jeremy & fight xana in an open world of lyoko or even join xana to destroy it, heck even go as far as to design your own lyoko world
If you like Code Lyoko, I'm recommanding you the CDAL reviews. It's two french youtubers who ADORES the show. They made 4 videos about it, including one explaining everything wrong with Code Lyoko Evolution, as well as some interviews with people who worked on the cartoon. I think they all got english subtitles, so maybe give them a try ?
Finally got around to watching this entire video. Was it long? Yes. Was it worth it? Double yes. There's a million and one things I could say, but perhaps another time. I'll try to keep this one short. It's always interesting to hear others' in depth thoughts on not just the show, but the lesser known side stuff as well. I've spent much time building my own thoughts, but I enjoy hearing another analytical take. In general, my own take between Evolution and Chronicles is that Evolution is closer in spirit to the original show, while Chronicles is an attempt to deliver something the fans have always wanted but never officially got, but at the cost of being its own thing. I'm aware this differs from your own conclusions, but this is mostly just my opinion. I also actually really liked Chronicles the first time I discovered and read them. While I never put it as my favorite book series of all time, I do remember gushing about the books to some friends of mine at the time. It wasn't until I decided to do a reread many years later that I saw the problems with the series. I think there's something about the mystery that gets you so wrapped up in it the first time that it takes a reread to start spotting problems. Speaking of Chronicles, I'd like to note that the retcons go deeper than I think you realize. Not going to get into the full depths of why right now, because I'm trying to keep this short. So I'll just put the biggest one down, one that a lot of people seem to miss. In Chronicles, there is no RTTP. No, really. It's never mentioned in the recap. It's never brought up in the Mirror. Mago and Anthea never seem to unearth this function while they have the factory under their control. One of the most iconic things about the supercomputer is lowkey implied to have NEVER EXISTED. You could make the argument that for half the series the computer is off so it doesn't matter anyway, but the lack of RTTP has a huge impact on the implied backstory of the Warrior's journey pre-Chronicles. It's one of the bigger things about the series that drives a wedge between it and the source material. Just food for thought.
I’m really glad you liked it! And oh my word, I forgot about the Return to the Past! How did I miss that? Yeah, that’s a retcon that can’t be easily ignored. The team definitely wouldn’t want to do a RTTP since it would separate Anthea and Aelita, and I’m not sure Mago would want to since he wouldn’t remember anything. Still, it definitely should’ve been addressed. Good catch!
This is one of the those shows where you can chill and relax after coming home from school, next to Totally Spies, Atomic Betty, TDI, etc Cartoon Network knew actually what they're doing with other respective Intellectual properties outside their American programming.
I think a good thing they could do is let Netflix take the rights completely. Keep the main story but reanimate it to look better. And then adapt the books with some tweaking so they would fit a little better as the proper sequel series. But add in a few ideas of evolution as it did have some cool ideas at least
Netflix will ruin it worse than they did in Evo. We saw what happened to Cowboy Bebop, He-man and Death Note. I rather have a series that is good cut short, Instead of watching it slowly corrupt itself into madness (Which is what happened to several CW shows)
I unfortunately have to agree. Netflix has the awful habit of wasting a massive budget by setting their aim on the wrong things; arbitrary focus on race swapping characters, making animated properties live-action even though it removes all visual draw, heavily changing around major story beats just for the hell of it. They do this all the time. I could easily see them doing it here.
Hell no! Netflix ruins everything with their adaptations. I for one do not want to see a modern californian version of code lyoko full of virtue signaling and race swapped characters
Hey here’s some commentary about the English dub from someone outside the usa that’s very late for the party. I see what you mean when talking about the voice acting and it’s something I’ve noticed both in the English dub for both foreign tv shows and video games. For the longest time I couldn’t point out what it was about English dubs that I didn’t like. No matter if it was a dub from an old show or a more recent one, I just didn’t like it and just had a habit to check it out because I was curious about how you guys adapted stuff I like. But recently I came across some interview from Gerardo Reyero, mexican VA for Freezer from dragon ball z. In that interview he said that dub in the us tries to sound like a Saturday morning cartoon, that the industry there doesn’t adapt foreign properties with the seriousness they deserve because for the most part, 4kids, saban and other dubbing companies didn’t seem animation as a serious media. I live in Mexico and consumed a lot of dubbed animated shows, movies and anime during my childhood and whenever I look back at old stuff I liked as a kid, it amazed me how serious most of those shows and movies were treated by the dubbing industry here. You could even take freaking Scooby Doo seriously in those Zombie Island, Witch’s Ghost and so on because the VAs really tried to sound legit and serious while doing their job. Sure it wasn’t always a 100% adaptation of the source material, but they did tried their best to make it all sound good and as serious as the source material needed to. Going back and comparing it to the American English dub there’s a big difference because almost anything sounds like, well, a looney tunes cartoon, no matter the context of the show or movie. I mean no shade with American English dubs, I’ve heard amazing stuff from some projects, but Code Lyoko specifically falls into that category of shows that just had a bad dub because the dubbing company treated it more as a comedy kid friendly show, instead of the series world saving kinda show that it really was.
Personally, I loved the books when I read them tears ago! I consider them to be the true ending of the series and would love to see them more fleshed out in a show.
They should of gotten Chadtonic to play Jeremy, but him looking like a adult would be very distracting Also Tyron would be awesome if he was voiced by mark hamill that would be funny, the dude looks like him.
Hi, I really enjoyed spending my time understanding more about Code Lyoko: Chronicles in this video, although I didn't watch every of it. But it a couple of questions appear like what happened to Jeremy and Aelita's relationship at the end of the book series? Since I guess Aelita is staying with her mother. And since you've read most of it, could you answer this question? I've also heard that they need to seperate because couple of reasons.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Regarding Jeremy and Aelita, it's unclear how their relationship develops in the end. Chronicles ends with the revel that XANA has been given a human body, so we have no idea what happens after that.
The story just ends after the revelation that XANA survived. We never do find out just WHY Aelita is out of contact with her friends. The fanfic 'Cathargo Delenda Est' has a pretty good reason why this could be, but I like to think that Aelita is catching up on missed years with her mother.
Gotta agree that Season 4 didn't do enough with the Project Carthage lore. It felt too safe writing-wise. Things like freeing William from Xana's control should've happened in the MIDDLE of the season. Waldo Schafer can still sacrifice himself but he should've returned to the real world at some point. We should've seen his Lyoko avatar (Oh! Imagine if he died but Jeremy inherited his virtual weapon and used it during the final battle). The school staff & students should've learned about Lyoko & Xana with no time reset this time. And I think Xana's defeat should've been tied to Project Carthage somehow. Like, that was his original goal, right? To destroy Project Carthage? They could've established that was STILL his goal, just that he was utilising the most extreme solution - erasing humanity from existence. Or, perhaps, they could've made Xana more and more human over time. There's some character development potential there - becoming what you despise and slowly realising it. Xana-William could've been actual Xana in William's body, not just his minion. I mean, that's what I assumed at the end of Season 3 - William had no Xana eyes. So I THOUGHT that legit was Xana himself in human form. But no, just a minion. Oh well.
Chronicles gave us answers and a definitive conclusion. As a result, it's kinda better than Evolution by default. Now whether people LIKE the answers/conclusion are a different story.
hey; LOVE this analysis! Re: your thoughts on William's under-utilization in the Chronicles series, check out this re-write called Carthago Delenda Est on AO3 by The_Apocryphal_One! It's a rewrite including William and changing a couple key items, especially towards the end! (it was actually my introduction to the novels and I'd highly recommend it, even if it's 1 chapter from completion!)
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the recommendation! I've currently got a lot on my plate, but I might check out once I have the time to do so.
@@CommanderWof Understandable! I know it's fanwork. but if you ever have time I give my own recommendation for it! thank you for sharing your analysis either way, it's SO nice to hear other thoughts and interpretations of code lyoko + its reboot attempts! :D
Yeah, that's why I hated evolutions so much. It felt like the characters were way too different personality wise, especially when they betrayed and used that girl and Jeremy basically said in your face. And I just stopped caring.
The one thing about this video is the william's memories and rttp. The episode William is talking about is a reference to a season 2 episode where in the context of the show, to reduce the amount of rttp which would strengthen Xana William helped Ulrich but got knocked out during the fight, Ulrich then puts him back in his chair and the was no rttp that episode. Thats why he believe's it to be a dream or something. I just re-watched the show due to never finishing it. So the show never steps on its own toes with rttp.
I think you misunderstood my point there. I pointed out that scene to show how the RTtP works, not to say that it was incontinent. And unless I'm mistaken, episode 59 is the only one where William both helped to fight a "factory worker doing wild acrobatics" and saw the computer at the same time before a RTtP, so I can't think of a reason why it would be referring to something else.
Here’s an idea the makers could do to help revitalize the community before doing either a movie or maybe a reboot of the series (I actually have my own idea for a Netflix type reboot, but I’ll only give it if asked so that we don’t have an essay type comment): remake the entirety of Chronicles as a comic or graphic novel series. Instead of doing a book with several preset chapters, they can flesh out the story over serval issues while also being able to give us more action with the picture aspect of comics. It’ll also give them a chance to include anything they wanted to do but could do to the reasons for their choices with Chronicles. For example, they could dedicate an entire issue to Aileta and Xana’s childhood together or a different issue to the main human villain’s rise to power (I haven’t read it so I can’t remember his name as well)! If the comic does well, they can simply transfer it over into the big screen, and if that does well they can green light a reboot of the series (again, will only give my idea if asked)! Just some food for thought, this was a good part of my childhood after all (BTW it’s also back on Netflix as well)!
Cool, I’ll give some of the differences from the original and see what people think before going into details since the changes between original and reboot can make or break reboots. First change, while Xana is a character, he isn’t the main villain and doesn’t even appear until midway through season 1 when he is found in a prison made by the actual villain. This villain is a second AI that was unintentionally created alongside Xana, her name is Zanis (she uses a Z instead of an X both to distance herself from her “Brother” and because at the time I thought Xana was spelled with a Z). While Xana was designed to protect both Lyoko and Humanity, Zanis was left to her own devices and ended up deciding to conquer Lyoko and destroy humanity. To that end, she captured and imprisoned Xana to make use of his ability to create monsters which she would control of the usual Xana symbol that all the monsters had in the original. Second difference, while Franz did still create Lyoko itself there are two key factors within this 1: when he hid within Lyoko, he did NOT hid with his daughter, instead leaving her hidden elsewhere IRL (the Aileta that shows up later is Franz’s great-granddaughter named for her grandma) 2: he did design the parts of Lyoko that we all see (the sectors and such) but the core of Lyoko is actually the consciousness of an alien life-form which can virtualize their bodies to undergo healing. He created the virtual world (named after said alien who was a girl BTW) to protect the healing alien both from whatever drove her to crash on earth and from the Will Smith type of MIB (look at the light here *FLASH* who are you people, where was I, oh yeah)! This only caught the attention of the MIB we know from the show and well the rest is history! Third, the first person to find the factory was NOT Jeremy. In fact, Yumi, Odd, Jeremy, and Aileta don’t show up until season 2 (Ulrich does but that’s partially bias on my part and sets up for the Yumi x Ulrich stuff later, please see fifth difference for details). The one who finds him is a new character who is actually smart enough to no longer attend school even though he’s the same age as Ulrich. Since he doesn’t need to attend school, he lives in the factory, uses cardboard cutouts shaped like monsters and Halloween soundtracks to keep out unwanted guests, and even built a bedroom and bathroom off of the command center that Jemery normally uses in the show. This leads to a funny first meeting between the new character and Ulrich with Ulrich entering the command center just as the new character is walking out of the bathroom in nothing but a towel (don’t worry the new character is a dude) and Ulrich is shock and slightly embarrassed at the sight of the new character in a towel (🎶Oh where is my hairbrush🎶 sorry couldn’t resist). Though this character has his own slew of problems even before Ulrich joins the team, he somehow got Zanis to fall hopelessly head over heels for the poor fool (neither he nor I have any idea how that happened). As for a name, I was considering using my own real name for him but would be willing to try a different name since I already share a name with a OG character and he serves as leader of the Lyoko Warriors as well as part time genius! Fourth difference, as I mentioned the normal warriors don’t show up until season 2. However, some somewhat new characters do help out later after Ulrich joins. We have a new version of William (maybe not the same name but same personality and mannerisms), another new character (also dude), and a character with Sissy’s personality but none of the power she had in the OG. She is the one Ulrich (somewhat stupidly I might add) chases after despite her only being interest in him when it was convenient for her, though she does realize she might have actual feelings for him, but only after he gets over her. This is after the event that introduces the rest of the OG warriors in season two which is also when she breaks Ulrich’s heart…along with a few bones! This last bit got her and the others (bar Ulrich) who helped her kick off the team (the leader does actually figure out how to remove them from the protection program in the Return to the Past thing and how to put people in without scanning them) and the girl remains off the team for the rest of the series though the others redeem themselves. The fifth difference is sweet and simple. Yumi does NOT play hard to get like she seems to in the original. She stakes her claim as soon as possible and as a result, they are able to fight together even better than in the original (almost like they’re dancing with each other). I feel like this would honestly be the biggest reason this reboot succeeds! On the number six spot, the sectors in Lyoko are different. First and Ice stay the same, but Mountain and desert are combined and a Volcano and Storm Sector are added. Sector 5 is renamed the Labyrinth Sector though it’s still the same as the OG and the warriors get a ship they can use as a base in Lyoko as well as a way to enjoy Netflix on a Missouri Science Center IMAX theater sized screen (considering most reboots not owned by Disney are on Netflix, I feel like the writers could get away with mentioning Netflix by name). Because the leader is a bit of a geek, he calls the ship the LS (Lyoko Ship) Enterprise (I like Start Trek, especially Next Generation). Number 7, in season 2 (and/or possibly season 3) while Zanis is still a threat, they also have to deal with the OG MIB and their bosses as well as the reason Lyoko fled to earth! If it does go into season 3, I could see them finally truly defeating Zanis once and for all no ifs ands or buts (except for the ones on the characters)! I probably could go on, but it’s already looking like a really long comment so I’ll stop here and let my fellow geeks and nerds judge my idea. All I ask is 1: be polite about this. We’re all civilized human beings (at least we should be), there’s no reason to be rude about this! 2: No bots! 3: no pitchforks and torches!
Okay, I’m gonna be honest with you, I really don’t like a lot of the ideas you put out here. New sectors sound cool (there was even a volcano sector in the games if I’m not mistaken), but most of the story ideas are either bad or seem completely unnecessary. What’s the point of not having the OG team in the first season? You even said that some of them have the same personalities as William and Sissi, so just make it William and Sissi! Not only would that piss off old fans of the show, you also have all of them, except for Ulrich kicked off the team, so there’s no point in having them there to begin with. And the fact that you want to name this new leader of the Lyoko Warriors after yourself leads me to believe that they’re a self-insert character for you, which is the trope of several generic fan fictions. And this character is also unnecessary because Jeremie fulfills that role already. Same problem with Zanis. She’s literally the same as XANA aside from the strange crush on Ulrich, that even you admitted was out of nowhere, so there’s no reason to have her in the show. Just have the villain be XANA. And then there’s the alien. This is just over complicating things and feels so out of place. This doesn’t sound like a reboot, it sounds like a completely different show. And just in case you aren’t seeing the problem here, imagine how a fan would feel to hear one of their childhood shows is getting rebooted, only for them to find out that practically none of the old cast is present for an entire season (although shows are made a season at a time, so the promotional material would only be about season 1 and would lead them to believe the old cast is never coming back). I guarantee you they would be upset and wouldn’t bother watching beyond an episode or two, if any at all. The fans are gonna want to see the true Lyoko Warriors again, not a bunch of replacements! I applaud you for putting your ideas out there, that takes courage, but as a reviewer, analyst, and fan of Code Lyoko, I have to be honest with you. This sounds like it would make for a terrible show.
Appreciate the honesty, the only correction I’d like to make is that Zanis does not have a crush on Ulrich, it’s a different character entirely. As for the point on the OG characters, I would be willing to change the story to have them appear earlier maybe even at the beginning. The only reason I didn’t at first was for flexibility with stories early on and to give a reason why Yumi would want to be more honest from the get-go. The alien part I could cut, I just added it because I found it strange how someone was able to develop an entire virtual world in what appears to be the era of floppy disks and thought it might be a plausible explanation. As for the leader character Zanis has a thing for, I honestly added him for a to make it feel like I was part of the story and to give someone who could mentor the others on how to fight in Lyoko and help Jeremy with the inner workings of the Supercomputer. As for Zanis herself, this was back before I knew about Chronicles and always thought that OG Xana’s defeat was so easy that maybe he wasn’t the one the OG warriors were fighting, would be willing to cut her from this though. I can just let William be back in the show, but the only reason I didn’t just put Sissi in the show was because that character wouldn’t be the principal’s daughter so she would either have to find more creative ways to get what she wants or just get in trouble. How about this instead, have the two both be their own characters. I feel there’s nothing wrong with having more warriors than just the OG ones and we not only get the drama that came with my character idea but also all the usual drama that came with Sissi (and possibly a love interest for Odd down the road). Again, appreciate the polite honesty. I don’t think this’ll actually become a thing though because 1: I have a tendency to get distracted by other things (have Asperger‘s), 2: I have no way to get the people with the authority and/or the money to listen to my idea, and 3: the guys who worked on it are probably either dead, retired, or out of business by now 😥
@@willnack5315 You admitting that this new leader was just you trying to insert yourself into the world explains a lot. The underlying problem with your idea here is that you’re making most of these changes and additions to fulfill your own personal fantasy, not because it would make for a good story or because it’s what the story needs. You want this mentor character in the show not because Jeremie needs a mentor, but because YOU want to be the leader and YOU want to be the most important part of the team. The mentor part doesn’t even make sense as a justification because if you’re character didn’t need a mentor to figure everything out, then neither does Jeremie. Zanis further proves this point. Not only did you make them female despite the fact that the AI in this show are genderless (XANA isn’t ever referred to as male as far as I can remember), but you also had them fall in love with your self-insert character. You clearly did this because you want characters in this universe to find you attractive and potentially give yourself a girlfriend later in the story, which again, is just fulfilling a personal fantasy, not writing a compelling narrative. Having a main villain falling in love with a protagonist isn’t an inherently bad idea, but your motivations behind it are very shallow. I hope you get the chance to bring stories to life one day, but you have a long way to go as a writer before that happens.
Great breakdown for a show I hold dear to my heart despite it's many flaws But also love how like collectively almost the entire fandom has decided that Evolution is dead to them and I honestly can't disagree it botched the entire series
32:19 Yeah. French is a very monotone language (literally) and French culture just isn't very emotionally expressive either. But yes, as a French speaker, their acting is bland.
So I have never stopped watching this series. It's one of my favorites, I love it to death. I spend hours of my time working on a minecraft server dedicated to recreating the world it took place in.... But I get the feeling that the creators of the series lost passion for it because it was so far from what they wanted when they showed garage kids to their superiors. The way they've spoken about the series makes no sense at all. Why would you begin to set up the Carthage arc and then never elaborate, and then go on to say "Yeah, we're done with the series. There's nothing more here" as your entire fanbase is endlessly begging for questions to be answered? Garage kids was presented as a serialized show and not an episodic one. Combine that with the cited anime inspirations, and the fact that all of the original team had gradually left the show, and I think the picture emerges that this series isn't what they had imagined. It's the characters and the world they wanted, but the series' structure and their network's control barred it from being what it could have been and so they stopped caring. That's why we're all still here. The world and characters are what we love, and we see what could have been and love it to pieces. Also I prefer the chronicles, however in my eyes Evo has 1 redeeming quality: It doesn't disrespect William like the other two do. It may not offer much in terms of character development, but he's there and a part of the team. And the best way to describe this series: "It's amazing to think what could have been"
This was a great video while I've never read chronicles and found it very interesting from your analysis of it I'm honestly content with the shows ending I prefer xana to stay dead and for the characters to just shut down the super computer and move on with their lives sure it has some loose ends but it never felt as though to me a sequel was really needed while I wouldn't mind a sequel I'd rather they leave code lyoko be.
That’s just like your opinion man I really liked Evolution despite all the hate everyone flung at it for years I sat down and enjoyed it recently I think the later 2 seasons of CL are pretty meh compared to the earlier stuff and I felt Evolution harkened back to those earlier seasons William was great, Jim was somehow better, I even enjoyed Laura and wish they’d given her more time at the end The ending itself is a bit open but it’s nothing I needed answers to I liked it You’re entitled to hate it but I’m the one person who gets to stand up for it I guess
just sayin.. as someone with memory gaps do to dissosiation.. you don't usually question or even notice memory gaps untill it's relevant to soething cos... you don't usualy realize u forgot something untill you need to remmember it
You would probably know better than I due to your experience, but the gaps in Laura’s memory would be so massive and numerous that I can’t imagine how she wouldn’t notice something or have issues of some kind.
Evolution is not canon. I don't care what anyone says. I don't hate Evolution, and I'll admit that there are SOME things about it that I genuinely love. I like how William is a badass hero and I adore William's budding friendship with Odd. But it's just that Evolution clashes too much with the original to be considered canon. It's an "alternate universe sequel", like Dragon Ball GT. Also the creators of the original didn't like Evolution either, sooo...
Look, I'm sorry. If I ever make an adaptation or A proper continuation of Code Lyoko. I really want to avoid using xana as much as possible and create new antagonists. Because using Xana as a crutch or using him as a sense of giving him a redemption Arc is blatantly insulting and gross. The idea of giving Xana, a redemption Arc, When I read it, I just felt disgusted, And it felt forced. Can we remind everyone that basically Xana is a literal warmongering, genocidal AI program That was designed As a militarized digital virus. This is the same XANA that controlled nuclear weapons, mind control and took over people's minds, enslaved a kid as Being his personal general for about a year with a giant goddamn sword, and Not to mention in the book... He possessed a girl from California and used her to basically infiltrate The warriors and started to grow a personal Relationship with odd... That's some Wonder Woman 1984 levels of what the hell. So the idea of giving Xana a redemption Arc is just so gross and incomprehensible to me. It's just forced and manipulative and it doesn't really give me any type of sad or deeply passionate caring vibes. XANA was a villain from the beginning, and giving him a redemption Arc is Nothing but forced and manipulative.
For the ending. It was rushed. Flat out. There was no build up to them getting a kill method. And the fact they brought up Carthage like it was gonna be a big thing in season 2, them just dump it was a big hit imo. The books show how much they could have done if they expanded on that background. Also characters were left unfinished. What about Ulrich and yumi? Did off get with Sam? Did aelita get into a society as without issues? And more. They're was alot they could have done tbh
I am not a true Code Lyoko fan. I heard the show and watch episodes. I love for the aesthetic. It's like a Japanese show which is set in France, the characters are teenagers so their moral compass are character-centric and the switch between 2D and 3D animation but for some reason, I haven't been hooked to watch it again. I read the first Chronicles book and oh boy, I hate it already. It took me to read it all. The sudden amnesia on Aelita that make no sense, the focus on previous season which should be compressed as an epilogue, Jeremy being a dick, even to his friends in the narration and is obsessed to Aelita (the dedicate on the first page says so) and the book was written by an Italian thus automatically France = Country of Love and so on. And then we have CL: Evolution. Which the first episode is the stupid excuse to light on the super computer. What if it was an hacker and not XANA? Why would they continue CL if they shut down the super-computer? 40:51 This and the way Laura was introduced. Jérémie is good a computer as well as calculus. Why does he struggles? 42:16 One of my favorites Episode. 1:09:08 Isn't it because Chronicles took a lot of liberties and failed to hook the fans? 1:12:55-1:13:15 OUCH! 1:16:37 I read that Aelita should have been the protagonist because she is involved with Code Lyoko and is a logical choice. 1:18:16 Wait, this is the Reddit post! 1:18:46 Ugh, Retcon. Doesn't help that Jeremie is the writer of the books. Even a lambda watcher of CL know this isn't what happened in the show. 1:24:11 For some reason, in the French book page 60 and 111, it is described as "light pink". 1:25:52 It's due to the use of "Back in the Past" that there is little story development. 1:34:43 It is proven that XANA has done so many terrible things it is beyond redeemable. 1:36:37 Why not Aelita? As the Reddit review says. It's a lame excuse to reveal Jeremy's avatar and it doesn't match the Japanese theme. Why not make him a ninja? They are equivalent of spies. Maybe that why the group found him "ridiculous". Also, bonjour Nelbsia. 1:42:53 I feel like the writer has a crush on XANA despise its actions or it is a lame attempt for plot twist. And this dialogue contradict with what Yumi says at the final episode that life without Lyoko will be better and she is the first to agree on shutting down the super-computer. In conclusion, Code Lyoko doesn't need a sequel. Let it as it is.
I'm probably gonna get flack for this, but after re:watching all the episodes (including Evolution X_X) I keep making comparisions to Persona since it's about kids attending school and balancing their social lives, studies and saving the world. I know it's way deeper than that and obviously not even in the same ballpark but that's just how my brain works in comparing them Take what ya will. X'D
Prequel would be best unless we get a deep character study of a show for Aelita where she tracks down her mom and we stay out of Lyoko entirely. Code Lyoko ended where it needed to for the characters given that they are in eighth grade.
Actually, about this photo of Jeremy and Aelita in episode 26 - couldn't Jeremy scan it to the digital form and then print it again after the return to the past? As I remember the scene when he looks at the photo doesn't take place right after the return, but a bit later
I hadn’t considered that. I suppose it’s possible, but it’s hard to tell since sometimes the virtual world is also affected by the RTTP, like how the Lyoko Warriors get sent back in time and show up in the real world even if they were on Lyoko.
