I started out as self-taught, then once I realized how difficult it was to try and get a first job as self taught I went back to college. Internships are a big key, now have interviews with Amazon, Crowdstrike, and a few others. Wish me luck!!
Same here. Funny enough, once i went back to grad school and put it on my resume, I started getting calls for interviews. Self taught takes too much effort to get a first job and getting a first job is all that matters. Also, best of luck on your interviews!
Summary: Self-taught (better suited for those who want to switch careers): Cons: Lack of a curriculum, need for self-discipline, lack of assistance/guidance, is harder to get job interviews with Pros: Cheapest option, self-paced, the more experience the less needed a degree is Bootcamp (better suited for those want to quickly get their foot in the door): Cons: Intense, expensive (though less expensive than a 4-year college degree, at least in the US), there are many of them that it's difficult to find the 'suitable' one and reviews may be unreliable, and may result in a lower salary as it is unlikely that one will automatically end up in a big company once they graduate Pros: Omits the theory and focuses rather on the practical skills (however, those skills and tools may be outdated in the next couple of years while the theory will remain the same), involves networking Degree (better suited for someone looking for a job in a relaxed manner): Cons: Requires one to learn things that aren't relevant to what they want to learn (some other aspects of CS and electives), time-consuming, expensive Pros: Professors are more qualified to teach than bootcamp instructors, higher employment rate, combines both theory and practice (and hence the material is somewhat 'timeless'), offers one the opportunity to speak to their professor in person, has more credibility, offers more internship opportunities
As someone who holds a CS degree, I agree that a degree makes it much easier for you to 'get your foot in the door', as far as landing your first job goes. After that though, future job prospects will generally pay more attention to your accumulated work experience more than whether you were a self-taught learner, bootcamper, or degree holder. Good luck, job hunters, and wishing you all the best in your career.
Exactly, I haven't completed my degree yet and managed to get a part-time job in the field just because I will have the said degree in a few years. I'm now 4 months in this job with a junior title. I feel like from here, wether I complete my degree or not is not that important compared to the experience I am getting out of this job.
Doing online college in US, definitely a lot of self-taught aspects, but still an accredited degree I will be able to keep with me for the years to come. Able to manage family/full time work and am not overwhelmed with 19 year olds who have been coding since middle school.
Im in my twenties I started coding and IT when I was at the end of elementary school It doesn't mean anything. I never actually did anything with all that code. Mostly projects I ended up being dissatisfied with and scrapping altogether I didn't sat down and finish a single project until late 2020 Now I have 3 somewhat horrid programs (that I do use myself actually) that works but probably lack polish and flexibility.
Just want to share that I'm having a bachelor degree in computer engineering (currently in second year), working as a software developer since 2019, because before that in high school i had a professional course in programming systems, and now i will have a new job in a dream company. If online degrees doesn't exists It could not be possible, because i'm just 22 years old and I also have a kid, so that's the reason I have to be economic independent. I think I am in advantage comparing to others students, because I learned how to deal with stressfull situations and also be a self taught, which is a fundamental skill as a software developer.
I'm two months into self-taught... I paid a small fortune in loans for an animation degree at IADT years ago. I had to do tons of online tutorials anyway to get ahead of the class. Bypass all the fluffy curriculum. They sold me and my peers false dreams and we're all in debt. Plus with overseas outsourcing, a lot of the money promised declined. Now I freelance, sell merch and run a small auto shop... and know a little JavaScript
Wow are you serious? Could you tell me more about the animation degree? Your experience learning it, i’m kinda in crossroads right now so 😅 learning about the false promises in animation is a MUST for me!
No matter what route you go you’re going to be self taught. If you go college then take Codecademy or Udemy on the side. Colleges tend to be behind the the latest trends because of the bureaucracy related to course changes. That’s good cause you’re first job is probably going to have old syntax in the code base. Also keep in mind colleges take longer but internships at big companies only go to degree pursuing candidates. So going college route doesn’t mean your not getting experience. If you go bootcamp please for the love of all that is good spend at least 6+ months prepping. When you go to a bootcamp you should already know how to code. You go to a bootcamp to solidify advanced concepts not learn basics from scratch. Code well, my friends!
I feel I was really lucky as I'm self-taught. Was working fulltime in a compliance role while doing Udemy courses outside of work and building websites with what I had learnt. I decided to apply for a job at a start-up as a front-end coder, wasn't really expecting to get the role as I didn't feel I was adequate enough, however I felt I couldn't miss the opportunity and managed to get an interview, during which I expressed my extreme willingness to learn what's required and spoke about what I did already know. I managed to get the job and in 2 and a half years, moved into the back-end development department. In my case I live on a small island near the UK so there's less competition for tech roles, however there's less of a chance of those jobs cropping up and the rate of pay is lower than typical developers from mainland UK.
Oh thank god everyone in here was saying you need a degree but I’m going the self taught route glad to see someone who had some luck and and awesome job
@@alexjustalexyt1144 I took a break because of college classes and stuff but I’m continuing to learn over the summer I’ve moved to blender and unreal engine coding because I want to do game development
I'm self taught. And Wouldn't trade it for a degree. I can honestly say that I learned more than any college or camp will teach you this way. If you go to a class they already have everything installed and ready to go. You will never understand how much work getting everything ready and installed is until you set it up yourself. Not to mention they will use the versions of software that they know to work for the class. In the real world, going with the latest versions you have to learn all the gotchas that exist trying to make multiple software pieces to work together. I make well over 6 figures and I have no debt which I can honestly say gives me an edge against others with loans. It's not an easy road but if you take it you normally know more than the average coder because you have to figure out what is actually happening underneath everything by troubleshooting when things go wrong.
how long did it take you before you landed your first job? and what resources did you take, also what field are you in? I'm self teaching but been accepted to an elite university to do cs, I have 8 months before I make the decision. I want to stay in this field for the rest of my life so cost and time aren't the biggest factor (I think lol) thanks for your time
@@percy9228 I actually started a job in a support role and within 2 years of self study I spoke to another manager in the same company and moved to a much higher paying position. I do development and database administration work. I studied databases because I new I could get into the database side faster. But that's just the way I went about it. The best thing for a programmer is to built some production ready applications that solve real world problems and show that off during an interview. When an employer sees a working program they know what they are getting as an employee. I mostly studied with books and online source code review as well as some youtube etc.
@@newmonengineering thankyou so much for your response! I'm wondering if things are different now because so many people are getting into the field and if right now you'd find it harder to enter the field. I have an Undergraduate degree in Mathematics (2:1), currently learning C++ and have all the time in the world to learn, I'm also finding it quite easy so far plus I have access to a university library with all the books they have and basically any book any university course gives out to students I have access to for free! Basically I'm in the best position from anyone to do and succeed in being self taught. I study 8 hours a day no problem and still have 4 hours left to pursue part time job. BUT I can accept an offer from Southampton University which would mean next 4 years and probably £100k. What would you advise? I have trust in my abilities and also I believe I can keep up the motivation. Would you say a CS degree is worth it long term? I want to work for FAANG one day. Really appreciate your time.
@@percy9228 it's a tough position to be honest. But I can't make the decision for you. I can honestly say most of how the world works it's about who you know and your character as a person. Every door opens if you know the right people, and or have great character as a person. I know that more doors are opened with a degree for sure, some jobs require them. On the other hand many now say or equivalent experience because they know a degree doesn't mean anything other than a person went through the education system. If you chose to get the degree just know that it will not guarantee a position any more than your own ability. An interesting fact is that issues with computers are common and many don't experience them in a school setting because the school's IT department works them. One thing you could do if you go to school is see if you can get to know some of the IT department people. You could learn a lot about common issues and that could be quite valuable. If you chose not to go to school apply for an entry level position first even it it's only for a few months that will expose you to real world issues and help you build a better understanding of common problems and you may even luck out and find some company specific issue that you can build an app to fix and end up being an entrepreneur!! Seriously, I have made many applications to fix real world problems and sold them to various companies this way. But I would never know the problems even existed if I had not had some entry level position because the fact is general computer support deals with every kind of error message and then escalates it to a development team in most companies so knowing some of the general support headaches gives you opportunities to make an application to solve them. For me personally I never wanted the debt. In fact when I married my wife the first thing I did was pay her school debt off. I also wanted to get to know computers from the ground up so I chose to work in support for a bit. Then I got to know the managers of the other various departments and soon after transfered to another department making double in about 6 months. And I have done that a second time in the same company! I left that company and work for another now but I went from making 35k to 100k in 2.5 years. I make even more than that now but like I say it's about who you know and if you can get to know someone that can tell you some of the common every day issues at a company you may be able to develop some sort of automated solution to solve those problems. My work has saved companies millions, not that I made that much but the fact that they have automated solutions saving their IT dollars makes a huge impact. my youngest brother I gave all of my old computers to as I bought new ones and now he actually programs those SPOT robot dogs by Boston Dynamics. He also has no education past high school. So it really is about making connections, valuing people and finding your niche in life more than it is about education levels. But again I probably won't get some positions because I don't have a degree so there is that. I wish you the best if luck in life either way you take it. Just try to be honest with yourself as well and find friends that lift you up in life.
@@newmonengineering wow this is so inspirational and valuable life lessons! your progression is outstanding. Thankyou for this, It'll stay with me. I'll come back in a few months to let you know what I decided. Well done on working hard to get where you are!
I did all three (i.e. but the degree was not in computer science) - Self taught... for me. Like you said, it really depends on the person. I did a bootcamp for a discount (and now doing a more structured bootcamp - for free) because there are jobs that require it or a computer science degree, but honestly, I feel my time would be better spent doing projects (i.e. tutorials, my own, etc. and getting feedback on them) and practicing more coding problems :/
I think you forgot a 4th option: Certifications. They're like bootcamps and degrees had a child. All the benefits of degrees and almost none of its shortfalls Look it up.
I already have my college degree, so I chose a coding bootcamp that's reputable and backed by the Florida department of Education. Took me a year to get a job. But it was the quickest way to switch careers into tech. 😂😅
Self taught from the 90s started with BASIC learning how things worked. Web was getting popular started looking at HTML and Pearl for CGI scripts to eventually PHP. Went to college early 2000s it was Java and C focus. Once I got my CS degree then a bunch of jobs became possible along with making a salary vs just coding hours for dollars. Still teaching myself new skills 20 years later to keep up.
I did the degree route but getting an internship is difficult depending on where you live. I lived in the NYC area and getting an internship is just as competitive as getting entry-level full-time job imo
Thanks a lot Sam, I'll be 27 in January, I made many mistakes before and they costed me years so I was very hesitant about choosing a path, I have decided to go for a computer science degree at a university; your video gave me lots of exposure and information that I lacked.
I have a degree in Interaction Design. Let me tell you, there is so much that you learn from getting a degree. You're surrounded by like-minded people, you meet people from the industry and make useful connections, you are taught time management with all the work they give you, so much more. You develop your people skills, and during my time I did several presentations. There is a lot of personal development, that simply boot camps don't offer or sitting at home doing courses on udemy. On that note, Udemy is excellent, learned a lot from there. I used to freelance + manage my studies effectively. Straight out of university I landed an excellent job. I work fulltime as a Software Engineer & UI Designer.
I can understand someone going to university for a degree if their main purpose is to build the tools and technologies used by developers and UI Designers. But requesting a C.S. degree to become a developer or UI designer is, to me, an overkill. I think there's a market mismatch in the I.T. sector. There needs to be a clear distinction between vocational and academic training. All the examples you presented, so far, about the pros of a degree can be done in a vocational setting. However, I do agree with you that boot camps aren't as effective; primarily because they are expensive, fast-paced, and deregulated.
Going for BS may often mean more internship opportunities and can meet the minimum BS requirements for certain roles. Yet, bootcamps may still give opportunities to focus on main industry SWE languages, etc.
I’m 30 year old artist working a crap forklift job. I know school will take a long time but it’s better to start now rather than continue to work in these shit jobs for the rest of my life. I want a career in something I’m interested like art or computers and computer degrees get you good money so I’m choosing that. Wish me luck.
Degree is ideal, I went to a top business school and still get looked down on at some jobs, definitely skip bootcamp unless you have trouble with self study, no one cares if you go to a bootcamp because unfortunately most of them are trash, but it can help you focus.
I say definitely go for the degree if you live somewhere where you don't need a second mortgage to go to the University. No bootcamp will ever go as in-depth, and no-one is disciplined enough to go through all the boring stuff AND know what to learn, in what order, for it all to make sense.
Yes, If your colleges give you free time for learning then go for degree , but some private colleges would sucks your blood and money because they won't give any free time neither care about your future
@@konekjukel3340 it depends on your country and region because no every college in third world countries are perfect where most of them Hunger for money because student's pocket is bigger than Richers ..
There is something here nobody is talking about, if you are in the math area, or IT are, even if you have a degree you will always be learning from other areas of study and this will require from you to take bootcamps or be a self made person, tech changes every single week, to me a degree will just make the best of all, the base, the base of knowledge with the fewer gaps between topics, that does not mean you will know everything but damn it helps. A bootcamp is not bad, it will get the job done but at the end you will land on the self taught area once the position require topics outside your area of expertise, now the self made is the least prepare for change, you will have knowledge gaps everywhere, even if you take courses and read books. But also they are willing to learn everything and that is a nice skill. At the end i think we all land on the self taught area. Experience is good, but the best advice ive ever heard from someone is: Learn the bases of your area, be aware of how things work on lower level, almost everything run on binary, if you master that, higher level languages will seem too easy, and always accept change.
Sites like educative where you read, see examples, and do projects about what you learn as you're learning.... is very effective. I learned more that way than at my school. I haven't heard many great things about bootcamps, to be honest.
i feel like i am going to do self taught and do a BootCamp. i already went to college and graduate school for degrees that arent related to tech but I'm not interested in going back
I've been playing back and forth with going back to get my degree versus doing the bootcamp. I have a chemical engineering degree that I would hope majority of the classes would transfer to allow me to just focus on the programming courses. I am in my mid 30's trying to reinvent my career into software engineering versus the chemical engineering i've been doing for the past 12 years. I am actively researching the opportunities in degrees including a boot camp route that could take me into the masters program. BUT not 100 percent sure that is even possible.
I think being able to teach yourself is important in both cases (bootcamp or degree). At the end of the day, you are the one who is going to be working on projects.
You did a great point about bootcamp, I took my Comptia certs to fully understand Computers & I've seen people out of bootcamps that don't know RAM means Random Acess memory that saves temporary files to be managed faster. Most have no idea the different types of caches on a CPU & their size, sure this is different from Intel to AMD, that cache is even faster than RAM but somehow people have no idea. Most people out of those also think GPU & CPU are the same, I think they were explained what a APU was & completely misunderstood the key differences. CPU - Fast calculator & brain. GPU - Video / Resolution / Graphics power. Heck I've seen people not knowing to tell a different between SATA & NVME / PCIE or HDD vs SSD. Cheers.
I was self-taught, but sadly I joined groups that had elitist attitudes and were always saying ideas couldn't be done or if it was simple for them and their years of programming experience, they would deem you unworthy to be a programmer. That led to me being depressed, I still dabble, but now hear their voices telling me I can't do it and I start to lose motivation on my projects.
Im a Crypto miner already 42 yrs old.I took computer technician course 20 yrs. ago but didn’t finish got interested in coding in programming. Im trying take different online course’s related to coding and programming.Great vid. Thx
I started programming in actual languages at ~9, and I obviously couldn't get a degree, and if you combine that with the fact that I didn't really have the money to buy a bootcamp, there wasn't any option besides self-taught. So, I resorted to watching RU-vid tutorials in Java on my ancient Mac desktop. I now program in Java, Python, C#, JS, know reinforcement learning & neural networks, and a lot more. I'm pretty far how long I've come with my self-taught journey.
I'm turning 24 soon. Really wanting to get computer science degree going back college but I'm also a Realtor so I'm worried if I wont be able to handle the two. I still want a degree and best degree i can think of is computer science
I'm so frustrated because I'm completing a bs degree in computer science student and the quality of the classes at are terrible, unupdated, really bad compared to any RU-vid/Udemy course. I've had to literally learn everything on my own. Everything for a piece of paper. I feel that I'm wasting my time at University, but like you said, lots of companies require a degree. This is my second bs btw, but my first one is not ABET accredited, which means I never get fairly paid. On the other hand, all those internships offers from employees throught Handshake demand the same requirements of those ones on Linkedin, so to me there is no difference. Job fairs can help tho.
Excellent video, wish it had more views to be honest.. this is fantastic information for people trying to decide on which route to take or people who are just generally curious. Left a like 👍🏾
all 3x of these could potentially get you a phone screening...pass that and you should get a face-to-face...show your skills and come across well and you could then get the job. this seems a tad biased toward CS degree / FANG position...not sure that's the ambition of everyone learning to code though...
I already have a degree unrelated to computer science and I have been doing self taught so far, but I am currently enrolled in an online computer science degree. The college isn't really impressive and I don't feel like I am learning a whole lot, but I am hoping to get an internship out of it. Since it's online I have already completed 33% of it in 10 months. Thinking about doing a bootcamp as well.
Hey out of curiosity what program are you in? I’m looking into postbacc or postbacc into MSCS but I’m looking for insight from current students in my situation
I know most of java and python i got rejected 3 times from cs college, cs students keep asking me about coding, ive never been to a bootcamp or any it related school, hoping to change studies after first semester of economics.
6:48 Cons of CS college or trying to get computer degree from college . 1. there is some college from third world countries who stuck in 80s computer where they teach you DOS , QBasic ,FOXPRO ( A command DATABASE software made by Microsoft which got expired in 2007) and Visual Basic (where you are trying to find answers from exams in 2005-08 website forms and they never teach you any modern programming languages 2. If you are type of students who only care about pass out all those exams not in actual study or Practical , then pass out every exams as possible because garbage system would sucks your money and blood , because most of private colleges do not care about your future , 3. Colleges times make you tired/exhausted , where you wake up in the morning eat your breakfast , then trying to attended you classes to maintain your classes or you would not eligible for semester/yearly exams , move to block to block building then come to your home/Hostel/rented room and you would sleep ,then semester exams would announce , try to memories from books, guess books 🤢 & 🤮📝 and forget everything you just learn from your college's classes that's how you would get your degree because , college won't give your any free time to learn about programming from internet ( which is better source than your useless teacher in your colleges) *BONUS :* after graduate ,get job in small company repay your debt from your scholarship, if you are failed to pay before the deadline then sell your parents house, because you are already paid your money to your colleges like 1. Not eligible in your exams for $20 , 2. got failed a subject $30 or got failed by your colleges $40 , 3. got late on next semester admission $10 per day they knows that *Students' pockets are bigger than richer , even you can not afford to pay your money to fine you have to pay them anyway* because if you don't pay them then they would ruin your life/CS career and delay your college degree as long as you get stuck on same semester for another years
I am 40 years old work full time and have 2 young kids. I think boot camp might be the way to go to learn fast and not do a GE. Thank you for your insight.
2:00 What about the negative aspect, that you probably endup trying to solve a unsolvable problem, because you are missing the basics of theoretical computer science. Because you didn't know that it is such a big thing. Or some things like rice's theorem. 3:22 probably because the whole thing with "computers that everyone can use" is only 30-40 years old.
I may be giving a seriously ignorant distillation, and possibly inaccurate, but it may come down to this: When do you want to expend your resources, now or later? My take on the Degree Path: It may be true that you pay upfront all your time and money in a degree, but, if you don’t land a good paying job then well you have to pay in the long run anyways. So, how intelligent are you, and how well do you have your shit together? If you can finish the degree, can you find a well-paying job? If you’re smart, you can find it; if you have your life together, you can keep it. My take on the Bootcamp Path: This is cramming a lot of information in if you decide to enroll in a 24 or even 16 week course. You have to encode this well into your brain. Plus, what are you doing with that information? If you have a proclivity towards the language of code, sure, you may pick it up faster. That’s good. Now, like he asked, are you going to look for an employer? Competence is recognized little, unless you have some proof of work, like projects you’ve created. That may be well enough as experience. As for the certificates? Idk. Please tell me more about their usefulness. My take on the Self-Taught path: yeah, you need to really want it. If it has nagged at you not because you feel guilty for abandoning this industry, which is continually changing and will leave anyone behind who does not adapt, but feeling the ache in your heart for not giving it more of your attention - since you have a deep inclination towards it - then self-teaching may be a good choice. If it is employment you seek, you compete. If it is a business you create, you could compete with other business people, or you could innovate (but that’s tricky, though if you work hard for it [like you have eyes sinking into your skull and you appear to be living on scraps of food for a diet, then you’re probably working hard enough]). Innovation is hard because it means looking where others have not - you know, we have a lot of people in the world, and we have many of the same ideas. What makes yours different? I think this man’s got it right - it depends on your situation, but more, I think it depends on YOU. You can get into a situation, and you can get out. It’s up to you.
Is it a good choice for a person who has just graduated from high school to enter a bootcamp rather than college because I don't work well with books and I'm more of a person who learns from practical teaching. Because I have this subject which I did in high-school called Computer Applications Technology (CAT). It is divided into two sections. Theory and Practical In the practical half, we didn't need to study, only practice. I excelled at that, I was the highest in the grade with practical, I even got 116/150 for the final exam However, on the theory side, I didn't do good, that requires you to read and study. I got 52/150, which pulled me to get to 56% for my final mark If it was only practical, I would have gotten 77%, but theory pulled me back University requires you to read and study However bootcamp, you just need to do the work directly which gets you job ready if I'm not mistaken
I just got kick out of university just because teacher being stuborn 😅 i already work for few tech companies but i dont have degree even thou i have been in school for 4 yrs 😂💪 so i came from degree to self tought also fun fact i have been kick due to late project finish but i was doing asp.net core identity like a chery on top with asyncs meanwhile other student canot even create login with cookies. They passed i dont.. i had 177 credits/180 bc work about to finish and i end up kicked.. so degree can be tough and sometimes not even worth it..
In Germany if you do dual study, you do somewhat 50% theory 50% more like bootcamp in Software development. Plus you learn lots of stuff at the same time. We do like C Programming, JavaScript, HTML (not coding)/CSS, Database management, Project Management, Server maintenance, etc.
@Breath Music Its hard can sometimes get very boring when you do normal study and not dual study. So you will be confronted with lots of theoretical stuff and will experience more like studying Mathematics and not Computer Science. Coding is something that isn't being taught you just get challenged with tasks and so on or private projects which solve certain issues given. I wouldn't personally recommend studying in Germany. The Universities are good and the professors are definitely well qualified for the job but at the same time living and earning money on the side is very hard and stressfull. It can sometimes put lots of pressure on you, especially in the Bureaucratic part.
@Breath Music Nuh no experience or knowledge about that. I live in Frankfurt. My friends visit TUD and they are positively but also stressfully experienced with it. I visit DHBW and work at a company who pays my study fines.
Self Taught is not always free, I've spend tons since August 2020 & put 3000+ hours building my stuff but I finally know how to code in JS & JAVA which I really love to do as a hobby at least. A friend of mine once said, once you do a hobby you love a job, you stop loving it.
I am enolled now in a bootcanp but also its considered as a degree the diffeeence is the first year was rely intense focus about it then in the second to fourth year the students are going to choose what company where going to be apprentis(google,microsoft big companies) but we still studying and also working.. Also having the drgree that we are college grafuate like the normal way but its more specific and focused on what we choose.
There are 2 people in my class completed the Bootcamp and enroll in the online MS Software Development program. It is time consuming and costly to get into the coding career. There are people who got offers before they complete the Bootcamp program.
Next year you’ll be 46 years old no matter what. Do you want to be 46 years old with a bachelors in computer science? Or a 46 year old without one. The choice is up to you.
Im self taught because others options are not possible (20 years old) because our school system is bad and i ended being dropped from last year of high school. Also they teach programming in french in morocco which is a big fat no
There's a sort of coding bootcamp where I am that's free through a government funded program that's supposed to help people get their foot in the door of a bunch of associated companies. I'm considering taking it.
What do you think of coursera/ meta front & back end dev. Certificate programms? Do you think its a good place to start, will they really help me learning coding and gaining skills or do you think they are just teaching basics as a preview. Thanks..
Did my time in the military to get free schooling, and I'm taking the degree route while also taking the time to do some self-learning. It allows me to build upon further from my course curriculum with a deeper understanding, and in the future will help me secure an internship or even a full time job when I am able to make that step. I could take the route of self-taught, but there's just too many benefits I would be missing out on with schooling.
In Sweden we have a special degree that's 2 years with 6 month of that being 2 internships that you either get on your own or that the school is obligated to get for you. After you finish you'll have a degree and 6 months of experience, 80% of people who finish already have a job secured from one of the companies they did an internship for! It's free and it's 100% programming and building projects (if you chose a programming degree).
@@mr.m002 Well all education is free. But i also forgot to mention that after you're done with the 2 years you can also do something called a top-up degree which grants you a bachelor's degree in only one year (most of the time). This one costs money though because you will probably have to do the bachelor's degree in a university outside the country which can be pricy, you can do it online which is nice so you don't have to pay extra to move etc.
Boot camps have become a bad joke in terms of cost. I am sure it’s efficient and some boot camps (not all) have connections that might help you in landing your first job, but paying thousands of dollars, sometimes more than 10k is insane imo. I am doing a combination of college and free online resources, affordable courses, and books. It takes time and a lot of motivation but I’ll get there one day. My advice to beginners would be to persist, you have to try not to just copy/paste code but make sure you understand the logic behind it. Don’t get obsessed with memorizing the syntax either.
I am a self-taught developer but I decided to take a certificate on CS essentials for software development at Penn State University online. Will this help me or am I wasting my time? I am aiming to work at a big tech company.
I don't see a lot of people talking about the columbia engineering coding bootcamp, seems like a great credible boot camp that bridges a universities credibility with a boot camps hands on intense technical training but not many people seem to talk about it since they don't seem to be big into sponsorships and marketing to be the number one listed search item, but does anyone have any opiinions on this bootcamp vs others?
What about an MIS degree from a state school for a 50 y/o military veteran who has 20 years of Accounting experience and a Business Administration bachelor’s degree? Any feedback?
if i was freelancing for let's say 2 years online, and i applied for a job considering my experience as freelancer, do i have a better chance to get an entery level job? if so is it a better chance than a newly graduated CS student? and do i have a chance to land a junior role?
Hello! I have a question-discussion After a degree in software engineering do you think if you have the time and money is worth to go for a masters in coding? Or just get a job for experience?
I considered this a lot when beginning to code, and I'm happy with my decision to go to college but one downside is spending time writing a history paper when you just want to code lol
