I'm proud to have been a part of this era. Back in the mid to late 70's Grandmaster Caz from the Cold Crush Brothers was the best to ever do it in the streets and on tape. I was about eight years old when my big bro introduced me to the Cold Crush Brothers. At the time, I was living on 184th on Valentine Ave in the Boogie Down Bronx and Caz would sometimes play basketball at the park on 183rd and Valentine Ave (I believe the park doesn't exist anymore)... today's rappers should give big thanks to Caz for all he's done for everyone. Who would've ever thought rap would make it this far. Do these rappers today know there history or even know who Grandmaster Caz is ? This guy is a legend.
@Adrian Flores I remember listening to that superman rhyme on a cold crush tape in front of the building I grew up as a kid years before big bank hank did it on rappers delight. When rappers delight came out in 79' I had moved to Queens that same year from the Bronx. When I heard rappers delight for the first time I immediately thought Caz had given the man permission to use his rhyme, but it turned out that big bank hank never had asked him permission to use that rhyme. But like you mentioned its a shame today's rappers don't show enough respect to the one's who did it first and opened the door for everyone else to succeed.
My Puerto Rican brothers doing their thing, Prince Whipper Whip, Rubie Dee, Charlie Chase, Ken Swift, Crazy Legs were some of the BORICUAS in this scene, there were many more in the Wild style movie!!! 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷 1982 !!!
Mr Shick from Mean Machine rapping bilingual on " Disco Dream" ...... probably the most underrated rap record ever.....tight rhymes, beat and originality.
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Fives were the first "recording stars" of the music business. But the Cold Crush Brothers were the soul of the streets. Growing up in Brooklyn, it was like having GOLD if you had a CC tape. The battles with Romantic 5 and Force MCs (before they became Force MDs) were all I listened to. Those tapes were so watered down audio wise, but I couldnt wait for the next one.
Can you imagine when Wild Style hit us here on the West Coast??? Man this shit was MIND BLOWIN!!! Me being Mexicano to see Ruby Dee up there spittin Barz...I'm tellin you that was everything!!
Man there's a lot of Latino brothers that took part in the foot print of Hip Hop Just to name a couple as you mentioned Ruby Dee was a Straight Bullet type MC, Prince Whipper Whip (Fantastic 5 MC's) Tito, DJ Crazy Eddie (Fearless Four)
Denzel Ellison I was born in '74 and came of age in the 80s and 90s. I'm with you 100 percent. You can't convince me that those days were superior to the 70s hip hop.
@e sit aah sure. I wondered that time ago.. but thought.. 'must be from an old funk break somewhere!' thanks for confirmation.. tis the baddest & funkiest break in all my 30 yrs of scratch deejaying!
@Constructive not entertainment Insignificant? The legendary battle between rock steady and dynamic brought hip hop to the rest of the country for the first time. Almost all peurto ricans!! That battle was covered by local news in NY and the rest of the country saw this. That's what started the legendary documentary STYLE WARS!!
Nicky Krystals spot on, and I’m a black man saying that. Puerto Rican’s were there from day dot and to say such a thing - particularly when it comes to B-Boying - is to not know Hip-Hop history at all.
@@mrwilliamz311 I'm born and raised in the Bronx River projects. Ground zero for hiphop! I've had conversations with the first MC in hiphop history coke Larock. I've talked to the first true bboy spy. I've seen Kool Herc never talked to him though. These brothers schooled me about the beginning of hiphop and how it all started. Even where the word HIP-HOP came from. Keith Wiggins aka Keith Cowboy rip started that word as a joke and it stuck.
Back in our day, when you had 20 dudes on a stage, they actually served a purpose, not like today when cats just trying to be seen and just happy to be on stage with a mic and nobody can't understand what the hell any of yall is saying....
In NYC Blacks and Puerto Ricans have alway’s been together. We grew up in each other’s neighborhood’s and housing project’s living in the same floor. I don’t know about those other states where they fight each other but in NYC in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s we were together.
True story, for those who don't know...Big Bank Hank, from Sugarhaill Gang, was Grandmaster Caz manager. One day, he asked Caz could he borrow some rhymes. Caz agreed...not knowing why Hank wanted rhymes. Hank recorded Rapper's Delight with Caz rhymes. Part of the proof is when Hank says "I'm the GRANDMASTER with the THREE MC's...." as in Grandmaster Caz and JDL, Almighty Kay Gee & Easy A.D. Caz was ripped off, but he didn't copy write his rhymes so he had to just suck it up. Check out Caz "MC Delight."
When Hip Hop became Rap, aka when industry fuckry first got involved. How sad is it that the first rap record came from people who weren't involved in the real essence of the culture.
No caz was not the one caz bit everybody line's you had to be there. Sugarhill is from Jersey caz is still call'n himself the one I watched him lose in 182 park anybody at that time beat caz I know because I was there
@@darkimdida9275 Fair enough, you were there so no matter what anyone says, a personal eye on historical events holds more weight than someone with second hand information. Question is though, where is Hank placed in the scene before 79. Was he putting in the work battling the more established mc's?
We are the brothers known as the Cold Crush Not one, not two, not three but four We keep your arms in the air, your feet on the floor We guarantee to give you what you paid your money for cause the Cold Crush Brothers got rhymes galore! That shit just gets me hyped to this day!!! Wicked intro!!
They were representing to the fullest. Rick Rubin also was there from start too. It was multicultural from the start. But all modern music (rock, jazz, blues, hip hop) came from the street and had a lot of African influence anyway. .
I am 57 and remember when Hip Hop was born. Look at how far it has come. 2022 and it is a multi-billion dollar business with rap stars that are million and billionaires. Sky's the limit today.
The 2 turn tables and a mic came from the Jamaican music scene. Jamaicans is the original hip hop setters. Along with the Latino's they all are a part of hip hop!
Sorry but that is wrong Jamaica culture have nothing to do with the birth of hip hop people just keep saying that same narrative for years it's the other way around.
@@markbeatts how old are you no disrespect , check your history the music came from Africa to the islands first then it came to America, the drums became the beat machine and turn tables, the dancing first in Africa and Jamaica became American break dancing and pop locking, the shouting during the dance ritual in Africa first and Jamaica became microphone Master's in the America, Hip Hop was here longer than you think check your history again,
I think Sound systems toasting dub is Jamacain in identity had a positive effect on 70s Mods/Suedeheads with Studio one Jackie Mittoo, Desmond Dekker....more of course Hip Hop born out of fighting and chaos in the Bronx coupled with Punk,no wave, funk - 99 records a lost label big influence pioneers Herc, GrandMaster Flash, Afrika bambatta, Cold Crush lyrisists such as Caz, graffitti even a lady called Martha Cooper documented the birth of true hip hop the blackout amplified and grew hip hop ....the long and the short both scenes have touched my life and offer a unique beginning born normally out of struggle peace love and unity Bambatta and brand new crisp biscuit Rodigan 😊
There is a brilliant documentary called rubble kings and a meeting amongst the gangs of the bronx that changed there outlook in perspective its a testament to the youth culture at that time to make a change and create something good It is not as pure now due too commercialism which always hijacks and spoils a serious youth movement. And not too disimaller Jamaica also in turmoil I look toward Jackie Mitto, King Tubby Lee scractch perry and the scuentist as my jamaican pioneers and the white boy DJ Rodigan who loved and devoted to the scence its brilliant to be part of a rich musical, artistic, time ...race creed color not relevant just people, vibe and music
Been over 35 years since I first saw this movie...roughly 40 years since I first heard Cold Crush rhyming over "Numbers" on a Rhyme Convention tape that made its way to BMore (via Newburgh, NY). NOTHING in this world charges me up like this scene. Especially when they start spitting "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust..." Cats saying "baby, baby' long before anybody else...... LONG LIVE WILD STYLE!!!!
i get emotional watching this B, this is pure NYC HIP HOP !!!! I was like 11 or 12 snuck into the theater on 42nd to see this, greatest moment of my hip hop life,word!!!! couple years ago I ran into Lee from the movie, I was picking my daughter up at the baby sitter, I was like I was 11 or 12 again. Hip Hop was everything back then. still is.
I am form Wyandanch LI NY. Before Rakim who is from Wyandanch made it, Rap was at block parties around town and out at the Wyandanch Park being handed out for all in 1978 and prior .I lived on Birch street , right around the corner from the Wyandanch park .There was a house on the street next to the park where a extension cord ran and DJ's would get electric to run their DJ equipment .Big up to Wyandanch Day . Not any Puerto Ricans that i seen, just Black folks.
This was some 🔥🔥🔥🔥ass rhymes and format. Shout-out to all the black and browns whom created the foundation of this beautiful expression called hip hop. ❤️💕💕 4/1/21
At some point all artist will be considered old school, but Grassroots/Classical hip hop is reserved for those Pioneers such as these 2 groups and others. Much respect to these unsung Pillars & vanguards of the rap genre. I'm Mr.J of the GIFTED 4 (Sounds of the mic & Temper) 1984/85. FUBU
History, we were part of it. late 70s-80s. I tell my kids how it started from the roots of NYC, now it's world wide. Ain't goin no where it's here 4ever. And they said it wasn't too last😂🤣😂✌🏿2 the old school 💎1 Lotty-Dotty
Remember listening to the mix cassettes!! My cousin was always playing Cold Crush!! The beats, the rhymes, the break dancing...all legends!! This right here is the original and organic hip hop!!
+SCEZ ONER, I'm three years late for this reply, but for anybody that's curious, this is a scene from the 1983 film "Wild Style." Fantastic Five is also featured in the film, along with other early scene icons.
Just to be clear the First Performers in this clip is The Fantastic Five -> and then it transitioned to the Cold Crush!! The first true Hip Hop Rivalry that kept the clubs Jammed Packed!! And laid the Foundation for Hip Hop!! BRONX All DAY!!
Im checking in from Strong Island NY the home of Rakim Public Enemy Dela Soul EPMD Biz Markie Freddie Foxx Keith Murray K Solo Method Man Leaders of the New School Craig Mack may he rest in peace and Prodigy from Moob Deep may he rest in peace JVC Force Soul for Real Ashanti Rick Rubin Doctor Dre from Yo MTV Raps Prince Paul from Steasonic Original Concept and countless others. Every time I see this classic scene from Wild Style I get chills when JDL from Cold Crush spits flame when Hip Hop was birthed and in it's purest form. I grew up in Strong Island NY during the vicous crack era of the 80s and we had park jams in New Cassel Park in Westbury Long Island and some of the Long island greats came to our park to light up the mic when we had Westbury Day during the summer so I experienced Hip Hop in it's purest form when it spread from the Boogie Down Bronx to the other Boros and to Long island. The Bronx was a fucking war zone like Beruit with drugs and crime so Hip Hop was a brief escape from the madness. NY is and will always be the Mecca of Hip Hop.
