Coldhearted is Perfect in Retrospect | Young Justice 

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L video. Spoiled the end of his character arc on a video about an episode from the beginning of the season with no warning in sight.

Yep, as well as him facing off against Vandal Savage in the process. Ik he wasn’t Wally’s first major supervillian but he definitely gave him his money’s worth during his time in Waid’s run.

@@meep9231 but that issue wasn't in Waid's run, the writer for that issue was Mike Baron. Unless there was another arc whr Vandal Savage appeared though then i might be wrong

@@liltaco4119 oop, I got that mixed up. My bad.

That insparation kinda hamars the coming of age he brought It up

My dad actually randomly got me the first two issues of The Flash vol 2 as a gift recently. They weren't expensive, I think like $15 for both, but it was a really cool gift to get since Wally is my favorite comic superhero. Imagine my surprise cracking open the first issue and it's almost exactly the plot from Coldhearted. I never knew! Really put a smile on my face. :)

In a lot of ways I respect this show for having Wally sacrifice himself in a Barry crisis like fashion. I mean part of me was and is really sad at his death, but another part of me is proud that he got to play that role. It was the same when he sacrificed himself and nearly died in the DCAU. That one moment showed Wally as the true hero he is. The fact that in YJ Wally didn’t even HESITATE to go help despite being retired and in continuity significantly slower than Bart and Barry in YJ meant a lot. So much more than when the strongest or the fastest steps in. I also just honestly appreciate the fact that people cared that Wally did sacrifice himself and the writers knew they would. In comics big sacrifices often occur because writers got bored writing characters or because they’re literally fridging a character for another’s story or because the readers have gotten fed up with a character or so many negative reasons. Events like Barry’s death, Jason’s death, New 52 Superman’s death, and so on are tinged in shame because of it. But Wally’s death was felt by all the fans and the characters in universe and clearly the writers themselves still liked Wally’s character because he continued to play a role and make appearances (despite being dead) in seasons 3 and 4. His personality and character always serving as a moral compass for those that remain. Wally’s death in Young Justice meant something and it meant something powerful and it wasn’t something anyone wanted to happen (I mean like in the agenda sense; though I don’t think the writers wanted it either but felt it was needed) but it did happen and that made it even more powerful. In Young Justice and the DCAU he really shined as the HEART of what Heroes should be. I think its perfect that his loss in the DCAU created the Justice Lords and that in YJ he is always remembered and brought up when the OG team members start to stray.

Just wanted to point out iirc Wally is the slowest in the family in YJ. It's on Greg Weissman's website q&a

@@EsquilaxM yeah i was more speaking on the comics stand point lol. In the comics he's the fastest man alive. Very much faster then barry and anyone else by a long shot. them changing that is my only real issue with the cartoon version lol.

​@@RangerNationDubs the comics kid flash is a lot different than the young justice kid flash, their power levels are on different playing fields to be fair.

@Almighty Coffee yeah, he aways gets nerfed on these tv shows and movies lol. Except the teen titans cartoon that kid flash is very much matching wallys young speed. But young justice gets a good job of nailing wallys caring personality blended with his natural cockiness. And how he give up everything for his family. And i appreciate it from that angle.

Really? That pun was right in your face.

@@chickenmaster0636Honest, I commented that like right when I started the video, and yea I remembered the episode was about an organ transplant, forgot which kind, and mainly remembered it being a key episode for wally, it was right after I commented he mentioned the heart transplant

​@jacobrutledge4128 but it was.... appreciated.

Wally is just a fantastic lovable hero. He doesn’t feel like a paragon like the trinity. He’s down to earth and yet embodies everything a hero should be. If the team were the captain planet planeteers he would 100% be heart.

Right! Wally was a tough character to like at first. He wasn't good at reading the room, because he didn't want to see anything that contradicted how he wanted to see himself. So he could have gone the other way, turning from a vainglorious idiot to a serial harasser, or worse, if he kept on the way he was going.

@@rottensquid That's one of the things I liked about Young Justice. Everyone fit a stereotype on the surface, but as the show went on (especially the first season) it took each character and exposed their depths, the reasons they were that way and how they could grow. I remember reading reviews where they stopped after episode 1 or 2 because Miss Martian is introduced in the kitchen, baking cookies, being a ditz. And if you watch the show, when it comes to why she's introduced that way, it's a gut punch.

@@sethb3090 Right! Miss Martian is my favorite character in the show for that reason. She starts off so seemingly innocent, and the deeper they explore her, the darker she gets. I feel like they really got to something profound about the burden of female identity, in a sort of roundabout way. So it made sense that Wally would be attracted to her, because he was going through the same stuff. Of course his phony male persona would be drawn to her phony female persona. Some deep stuff.

This is the character development episode that needed to happen for Wally to be taken as more than just solid comedic relief in the back half one season 1 and all of season 2. This added the legitimate dimension that he can be legitimately relied upon when he needs to for things that don't benefit himself.

Which rebirth comics are you referring too? I would like to read them.

There's a fourth Season?

@@nicholassgobero yes

I'm not necessary against him staying dead. However, one point I've seen was when superboy seeing people in the phantom zone and Wally was also a phantom. Everyone else instead was a vision with color like Lex Luthor and Superman

@@obiomachukwuocha4918 Conner believed he was dead and that was afterlife, so he saw Wally, who was dead, in the same state that he was. I don't see how people see this as a hint for Wally to be alive, that was Conner's mind making that up

@@davilenine6420 they do leave it open for Wally to possibly return, especially in the episode where Artemis visits "Wally" in the afterlife. For th emost part, it serves as confirmation of Wally being dead for real, but it was really M'Gann and Zatanna making it so Artemis could see Wally again. So there is a possibility, though unfortunely we'll most likely never know for sure unless season 5 even happens.

It's a meta-theory. The larger DC continuity makes it very likely, and there are very deliberate nods to it in the season. They start pointing out that not just Barry but also Bart are faster than Wally. This is significant because in the comics, Wally holds the title of by far the fastest speedster in DC when he takes the mantle of The Flash. So when a slow Wally disappeared, it was a pretty clear signal that he would be back when he was needed most.

Season 4 is also terrible, it's so sad 1 nd 2 are masterpieces.

"Not to mention the fact that they out right stated he isn’t dead." When?

Personally I thought every season was really good except for season 4. That one was just okay

Me too! It sounds awesome.

You will not be disappointed. Warning though: it's highly serialized so you want to watch it in order, and there's enough reveals and plot twists that ideally you want to avoid spoiling yourself to get the full experience. It's some of the best DC animated content ever created, standing side by side with and at points even surpassing the DCAU. Big claim, but I assure you it lives up to it.

I just finished it yesterday , loved it and now there is this empty feeling inside me that we get after finishing a great show , i wish that they renew it for a fifth season

It is.

Pretty much all of it is perfect.

This would be a great mini series

If you’ve not seen it already, this is something I do discuss a bit in my video on Young Justice: Outsiders

@@PillarofGarbage I have, but I always want more Young Justice content!

Me too … but the point of this video is why they probably won't. If somehow they find him again … things change. Which oddly reminds me of Teen Titans with Terra for much the same reason.

After that episode with Artemis and Zatanna? No. It'll feel like we were being manipulated for years just for a "yay, Wally's back moment!" Now, it'll work on me and I'll probably cry, but his death being permanent is one of the things that grounds YJ in a way that isn't dark and gritty not still feels real.

@@muntu1221 Well for me after they couldn't be bothered to have what Zatanna did be Wally's actual soul (and them telling us it was fake being 5 seconds that could've been given to any of the other storylines going on and it being fake having no impact so those 5 seconds is nothing but a giant Big-Lipped-Alligator-Moment), all the other fake-outs, and having Jason be alive, I can't be bothered to to actually believe he is "for real they will totally never ever leave open the possibility of bringing him back especially without a corpse, just like how the comic side committed to never ever bringing Barry back or that Ace is the new permanent Wally. Oh wait".

I see a way of bringing him back that would actually work really well with the whole "things change" theme of the show. Just say he was stuck in the Speedforce for what he felt was few minutes but in reality was however long it took from that episode to season 5. Everyone is incredibly happy to have him back but he was literally taken out of time for years and everything is different now. His team is now in vastly different place, his girlfriend older than him and almost moved on from him. I could see it being a really interesting storyline for season 5.

I miss him as well, but I wouldn't want Wally back becuse it'll go against the plot, meaning that'd use some kind of a 'plot armor' to bring him back. And bringing him back could hinder all the character development that Artemis and the rest made. It would just set back their progress, so, with all the love I have for Wally - I wouldn't want him back.

I hope so as well. It's one of the only shows that I'd like to see renewed. But only if they get the crew and voicing cast of season 1.

Thank you!

February will reward your patience

@@PillarofGarbage *gasp* foreshadowing

Speed force doesn’t exist in this universe

You've got to remember power levels aren't baselined through adaptions. Most adaptions of the Flash can not go lightspeed without intense strain. We know lightpseed is out of the question for the flashs in young justice due to barry being killed in barts timeline because he couldn't escape the explosion from the villain of that episode.

@@texcorps9432 I do remember that. However, Barry in Young Justice can travel NEAR light speeds. Even though he was caught by the blast, he wasn't caught by it instantly- which is pretty darn fast. So Barry would still have been able to make this trip in a couple seconds

@@mainemail5506 based on what ? There's nothing to say that Barry is actively lightspeed or close in yj