Awesome job! Just make sure to pull your pavers out some next time to prevent them from tearing into the bottom of your liner! We made that mistake one year and got some tears and eventually ended up using a jack to lift the legs one by one and pull them out to where they were not as close. Great video!!!
Ty so much for this video.. were installing our pool within this week... right now we're leveling the ground and waiting the sand to come on Friday... Once the sand is here were going to be following your video to help level it all out. This is brilliant. Thank you so much!!!
@@joev1779 oh awesome.... I definitely will .. we live in the east coast (Rhode Island) so everything rusts within the 1st year lol ... Thank you so much!!!
Joe, we are finally done! Well, the pool is set up and filled, but we still need to finish off with the pea gravel, etc. We just wanted to get that pool going for these super-hot days. I cannot thank you enough for your videos and for answering my questions. We totally followed your plan! Sadly, my Intex sand filter pump seems to be a dud. Turns on but stays in "power save" mode. My brother-in-law spoke to Intex for me and it seems if I call I may be able to get their help in replacing it with a new pump. In the meantime we have the little pump that came with the pool going. I wish I could send you pics so you could see us following the Joe V gospel of Coleman 18x48 swim vista set up! I even sprayed all my parts with the Boeing T9 waterproofing! Anyway! Thanks again. Have a great summer. If I EVER need professional pool services again I will get in touch with you. You've been so great! I LITERALLY don't think we could have done it without you. LOL
How fantastic!!! Great job! 🙌🏻 we got our 18’ in 2018. It was amazing! We used pavers as well, but I really like the idea of your 20x20 frame!! We took ours down; packed her up, and brought her along with us when we moved to our new house in 2019! I landscaped the entire property and created a beautiful oasis of beautiful garden beds al around the property, while my husband’s pole barn was being built. We FINALLY finished all of our renovation projects and are going to put our pool up! I am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏼 that the pool is still in good condition. We have clay soil so it’s going to be a bear working with that. My husband wants to do it the lazy way and just put it on top of the lawn, but once I show him this video and remind him about why we invested tillers; a tilt/lift trailer and his big tractor 🤣 he’ll get the idea! Ha! Thank you for this amazing video! I will come back and let you guys know how we did! Am heading to Lowe’s now 😂 Oh! Just one more question. Not sure where this pool is, but am wondering if will be up all year long and if you recommend to take it down during our cold winter months (Michigan/Indiana area)?
I wish you were here in Indiana 😂 Sure could use a helping hand! My husband is so done with ‘projects’ We’ve had many since moving into our new house! Will definitely be looking into hiring a few helping hands with leveling the pool. 😊
I really wish you would have made this video sooner. We just put up a 22 X 52 Coleman and had a hard time getting it level. Your way seems so much better the anyone had on here. But ours turned out with all the water in it NOT so level. I will see if it holds up this summer but it really has to be taken down and set up your way.
New question for you Joe: So we are digging down to get level. My yard has a slope and everything I've read says dig down rather than build-up with dirt or move dirt from one side to the other to level. First question is: Is that ALWAYS the best way to go? Dig out rather than build up? We will essentially have a square pit, framed with wood, that appears deeper on one side than the other. We will likely double stack the wood on that side to keep the dirt in place. The initial plan after digging was to set in pavers, use a weed barrier and then pea gravel for the areas around the pool (once it's filled) and foam boards under the pool (I have 1 inch thick boards cuz that is what was available) Is putting down sand a must? Should we put sand down under the pea gravel? Is that a TRULY necessary step? I thank you in advance for your time and for sharing your expertise.
Hi Syd, Yes it's best to always dig down, unless you have a plate compactor if you add soil it will be uneven. Dig down. As far as sand you wont need it if the ground is nearly perfectly level. Just do you best and lay down the foam board. Good luck
@@joev1779 was wondering if you had to take the top frame apart again to get the liner on it. Seems like a lot of work to build the metal frame to level it and then have to take it apart to slip the liner over it
I just installed the 22 foot version of this pool (and made a video about it on my channel too, about the process! lol) 💦💦 Interesting to see your 18 footer (on camera/in videos they look almost exactly the same, it’s funny!)
Wish we could help. Workload is crazy due to covid. If you dont get it up this summer let me know and we will get you set up for next spring first in line!
We had a great season. No window leaks nor issues. I'd like to leave it up over the winter. I have the chemicals, the winter cover and the air pillow. Any special tips?
Yours looks amazing, I bought the same pool and it has been a pain in the ass, guy who instal it certainly didn’t know what he was doing. Two weeks since he did the job and today I’m trying to buy a drain hose adapter to drain all the water. I regret tremendously my decision of getting a pool for my son. Starting with the upgrade of the pump and filter, uggggggggg drag me to hell 😐💔
Do you happen to know why there is no mention in the instructions or any mention on the requirements to ground this above ground pool? Also how is the power on the pump compliant without a twist lock?
Joe V, I see you set the PAVERS on the ground. Then your foamboard inside of them. Great idea. Cause you can't put them on the foamboard they will crush the foamboard. Just asking. I think I solved the issue.
Joe - huge eye opener here. I had a landscaper level out our ground when our patio was being installed. I wanted avoid having tons of sand in my back yard, as we too plan on taking this down in the fall. As such, I wanted to protect against rocks from the dirt and laid down rubber tiles, also providing a rubber cushion for my kids feet. Now I'm at a loss. I obviously can't sink pavers into the rubber tiles. Would you recommend I cut around the rubber tiles and put the pavers into the ground and then level? I understand they need to be sunk to make sure the liner isn't sitting on the pavers. Really appreciate your help!
Hi. Rubber is a good base for the pool, much more expensive than foam but will last forever. I would place the pavers over the rubber at the correct spacing and placement, then use a razor to cut the rubber and recess the pavers. As you said the pavers must be level with the rubber so you will need to dig each paver into the soil to level. Make sure that you place a level on each block both X and Y direction to ensure level. Then place the level across two blocks at a time to ensure level from block to block. Work clockwise and hit all blocks and you will be fine. Once done you will have a great pool install! Good luck
@@joev1779 - thank you so much for your quick reply. I did a hand to forehead move after I saw the foam.This is way outside of my comfort zone. Do you recommend I use sand as a base under the pavers to help level? This is going to require so much more digging, but the last thing I want to do is cut corners. Thank you again.
@@rachelreynolds203 Hi. Unfortunately you will have to dig those pavers into the soil to level with the foam. You can use a small amount of sand under the pavers for minor adjustment but remember that sand tends to shift when it gets wet.
No, nothing in between. You MUST keep the blocks a few inches from the liner as you are adding water. It's a little time consuming but not hard. Just make minor adjustments to keep the liner away from the blocks.
The legs ,I’m trying to keep level but when I get one level the leg closets gets pulled back in because the leg strap is too tight,will the tension loosen up when the water gets about half way so this does become a problem? Please I need help
Yes! As long as you're level and the legs are not on pavers that are higher that the liner you will be fine. Fill it 1/3 of the way then begin to pull out legs. Once the water weight is there at 1/3 you will be able to pull the legs and set. You will have to use some force to pull them. In one or two cases we hooked up winch straps and slowly winched the legs to 90 degrees.
Hi Joe, it's Stacey-I commented today on your update video-i'm just watching this one again bc we're about to start this project today...were those foam boards easy to cut? did you use just a simple razor blade? also-the only location we can put ours where it's relatively flat and doesn't need intense leveling, and which also has the most sunlight (we have a lot of very big trees that shade most of the backyard)-is not exactly ideal and i'm a bit nervous bc half of the pool will be on flat cement pavers(there's a garden that we're removing that has the pavers) and half on the grass....the plan is to pull out the grass and then put an inch of mason sand over the entire foundation....my concern is that the side of the pool that's not on the concrete will slowly sink in lower over time un-leveling the pool and making it a safety hazard...do you think this is ok or not a good idea to put the pool here? does this make sense? lol! would be easier if i could send you a picture of the space...email me if you get a chance: staceyannpiegari@gmail.co. sorry for all of the questions but we've never done this before so i just want to make sure it's safe for my kids and guests!:)
Hi. Aa long as the grass side has been set for a while and not new grass or recently laid sod you will be fine. We usually dont recommend setting the pool on two different type of surfaces but it can be done if your using the foam boards as a foundation. The foam will cut easily with a sharp razor. Make sure you note that the foam board are notched on the ends to allow a seamless install. Look at the edges..
Hi! Thanks for the video. If I have a slab of concrete that I am placing the pool on and I use the foam boards, would I cut them so that it's a circle and is on the inside of the pool? I wouldn't want the legs of the pool resting on the foam right?
@@amandayates7794 Hi. Just be sure to cut the cirle a foot larger than the pool diameter. Once you add water the liner will expand. You don't want the foam to be too small You can always cover or cut excess if your foam is too big. Can't add more if its too small Let me know if this makes sense
We used the foam board on our Coleman 18x48 pool. We cut the boards to be 18” but it appears we should have cut a few inches shorter. We have not filled it with water yet, so maybe it will expand. Can you advise ?
Better to have cut it too big. The pool will expand. Once it is filled you can either carefully cut the edges off or better yet just place rocks or mulch over the excess foam board. You'll never notice it. Also before you do take a black sharpie and trace the edge. If you remove the pool over the winter you can use that sharpie line as a guide to cut the edges off after you remove the liner.
You know that as soon as you put that liner in a start filling with water...that those pavers will need to be moved out right? You put the frame up without the water force on those uprights. I am betting that each one of those uprights and blocks needed to be kicked out about or at least 5 inches each.
For a canvas style Pool like this did you have to bond it with copper around the pool? I just purchased one and got the ground level and getting the Gcfi outlet hooked up to the circuit breaker and stuff and I know the metal siding pools have to be “grounded or bonded” but do canvas pools?
Yes. Normal. Just fill the pool to about 10 inches then pull out the legs to 90 degrees on all sides. If they move fill another 4 inches and do it again. If you try to pull out the legs with less than 6 inches of water they may move
@@joev1779 I'm having the same problem with mine. I have about 12 in in it plus it is 2 in off. Every time I pull one out the other comes back in. and it seems like the strap around it's too tight so I can't pull it out. Will the strap loosen as I fill it.
Stalk Walmart. Talk to the associate s that stock that area. Show them the UPC/barcode, they can pull it up on their handheld and show you if they are expecting a delivery and when.
Did you dig those pavers in the ground before or when you were filling it up with water? I was about to put my pavers in the and make them all level but I'm wondering if I will have to move them again once I put water in it
They were set and leveled before any water was added. As the pool fills be sure to square up the legs. Ensure they are 90° to the top rail. Use a level on the legs. Do this until the pool is halfway full. By then the legs will be set. If you don't do this you won't be able to square up tbr legs with a full pool
@@joev1779 Thank you. I have some lines in the cent of my pool from my rake I was wondering if I put sand over the top of them if I would still be able to feel them?
Ok. Found someone. He's only done my friend's pool before mine, (and used this video as a guide bc I sent it to him) but has experience with landscaping and getting the ground level for patios, etc. We plan to try to follow your plan here. I see a similar question below, but I will ask again. LOL Should your pavers be level with the foam? Is that super important? I saw you said the pavers were level with the sand only. So then the foam is slightly higher? I hear you used the 1/2 inch boards. What if I get 1" boards? If the pavers are level with the ground and the foam boards are slightly higher will that present a problem. Do you lay a tarp over your boards? I was planning to do that. If I lay a tarp should I be careful to fold it back so it's only under the pool? Can a tarp cover the pavers and then the legs on that? Ok. I'll stop now. Thank you for ANY information you can share. I think I have your video memorized. LOL
Great to hear that you found someone! The pavers should be level with the foam. If the foam is slightly highers than the pavers thats okay as the water will compress the foam about 1/4 inch. I do not use a tarp under pools were I install foam boards. I don't think it will hurt but the foam is strong and waterproof so no tarp is needed. Post any other questions if any come up! Good Luck!
Different strokes for different folks. We've been doing this for 18 years. Works for us. Now don't ever try to use sand to level the surface. Level the ground first then use sand as a top.layer.
Hi. I haven't see a fence that surrounds the top of the pool. Most municipalities require a fence around the area where the pool will be set up. This is to prevent children from climbing in unsupervised. Always have a fence around your pool. It only takes a few moments for a tragedy to occur.
I have my pool up and realized one end is about one and a half maybe two inches off should I take it down and start over. All the pavers are level it's just under the pool that's uneven. No more than one and a half to two inches. What do you recommend. If it's okay the way it is I was thinking of taking it down for the winter. Then fixing it in the spring.
@@lindarathbun3852 if it's only off level by 1 or 2 inches you will be fine. Just make a note and take some pics you remember next spring which side needs to be lowered. More than 2 inches you would be better off draining now and fixing.
@@joev1779 Really, I find that hard to believable was this your yard or customer? The liner is pushed right against the sharp edge it would be best to put some rubber in between liner and the hazard.
@@michaeljennings5170 my customer and with a 5 year warranty on installs you can bet that my phone would be ringing off the hook. I can reach out to them this week to do an update video. This is around the 250th pool we've installed over the last 13 years.
@@joev1779 Hi there, I am not try argue it's just a concern and don't you feel yourself that could be an issue. One of the comments here that did happen to someone and I didn't see if u responded to that.
@@michaeljennings5170 didn't see that comment. Not arguing with you either. You asked a question and I answered. No issues on this pool or any others we've installed.
Hi. Connect the hose to one of the two hoses that draw water into the pump. The hose will just push over the plastic tube for the input hose. No need to clamp it. Then you need to install the restrictor cap that came with the skimmer onto the other second input hose. This is done to slow the flow into the second hose to allow more water to flow into the skimmer. There are some good videos on RU-vid about how to install the intex skimmer. Good luck!
Hey Joe, I’m interested in this pool exactly the way u have it set up. You mentioned all the stuff came to around $1000, I’m looking online and the pool alone is going for around $1400. Also where are u located? I would love to hire u to set it up. Thanks
Hi. Wish we had time for more work! Our pricing was before the pandemic. As you are probably seeing prices shot up as everyone wanted a pool at home. Prices are starting to level out a bit as inventory is catching up. Places like Walmart don't price gouge but getting there early when the pools are in stock is key
Yes. They added an Intex Krystal Clear Sand 1500 gal/hour sand pump with chlorine generator. It was $275 on Amazon. Their pool water is exceptionally clean. I will post a video update soon.
@@erinoneal8026 Sure. Looks like it may be out of stock but keep checking.. www.amazon.com/Intex-Saltwater-Electrocatalytic-Oxidation-110-120V/dp/B00PHX0D3O
John, it would depend on the conditions of the yard. If the ground is level the install would only take 1-2 hours. If the yard needs to be leveled it would depend on how out of level it is. This yard was out of level by about 7 inches over 20 feet. Took us around 6 hours to level using a mini excavator. You can rent one for around $250 for the weekend. If you pay someone to level the ground it would probably cost around $600
We also just installed this pool ourselves, lot of levelling required. Our cost was: $45 for rental of a tool to remove 2" turf/sod 20 feet around, took maybe 20 mins, filled that with approx 4.5 - 5 tons of sand @ $8 per ton at the local quarry, we self loaded with a trailer (several trips, small trailer) we levelled it with a rental of a hand roller (basically a metal drum with a handle that you fill with 300lb of water) that was $10 for the day, after the pool was set up we filled in over a foot around it with 5/8" River rock, again from the local quarry, self loaded in 2 trips with a lot of 5 gallon buckets, total was 2240lbs for $10.50, then went around that with scalloped pound in landscape edging, 3 boxes for $42. All in not bad for doing it ourselves.
@@RooRooRay That's great! If you're willing to do the work it can be done rather inexpensively! Enjoy your pool! One thing that they told me is that the water temp is very warm. Around 85 degrees yesterday. They have been putting the black cover on each night and I think that the brown color of the liner attracts heat from the sun. Pool temp was 67 last week and it has not been very hot in PA.
Hi Jose. Our pavers are around 4 inches thick. Just be sure to recess them into the ground. You dont want the pavers to hoist up the liner off the ground as it would place too much pressure on the liner.
You don't have to but.. its a great idea as you will be able to get the surface super level. Also if you're not planning to add the insulation boards that I spoke of in the video the sand will help create a better more smooth texture for the floor of the pool.
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