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Colt Service Model Ace: Carbine Williams Makes a .22 1911 

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"Carbine Williams", aka David Marshall Williams, has a reputation as the designer of the M1 Carbine, and a very colorful history. He was a moonshiner who pled guilty to second degree murder of a sheriff's deputy and served time in prison. He gained a reputation as a gunsmith in prison, fixing the department's guns in the prison shop, and was eventually allowed to work on his own firearms designs. Eventually released, he patented a design for a gas tappet system. The system was used for the M1 Carbine (that was really the extent of his contribution to that design) and a related "floating chamber" system was used in a .22 rimfire conversion of the 1911 pistol and the M1919 Browning machine gun.
The Colt Service Model Ace used William's floating chamber concept to improve their previous Colt Ace .22 1911 conversion. The first prototypes were ready in 1932, and production ran from 1935 until 1945 (plus a reintroduction from 1978-1982). Most sales went to the US military, which bought 13,808 complete pistols and a bit more than 2,000 conversion kits. They were used for marksmanship training, as .22 rimfire ranges could be built in many more places than ones safe for full-power .45 ACP.
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@billwang4181
@billwang4181 Месяц назад
There was a Columbo episode where the killer used a 22 conversion kit on an M1911 to commit the crime, then converted his pistol back to 45 cal. to throw off the police. The pistol was in a display case in the criminal's office. He hid the conversion kit--also in his office.
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 Месяц назад
If he'd tossed the conversion kit he wouldn't have been caught - but the writers had to make him do something stupid or they'd have had to toss the script. I've wondered about a story plot like that myself. The character would buy a spare barrel at a gun show, use it for the crime, then replace the original barrel and toss the other one. He'd also need an extra firing pin? And extractor? Saw in some other crime show that they make distinctive marks on the brass. Don't worry, I'm not the violent type, don't even own a gun. But I find the engineering fascinating.
@M8Military
@M8Military Месяц назад
​@@donjones4719basically if you are going to use a pistol for a crime, you have to replace the entire slide afterwards. The breach face creates an impression on the brass, not just the barrel
@vyacheslavgrinko9993
@vyacheslavgrinko9993 Месяц назад
​@@M8Militaryby brass you mean casings? If so - maybe it's best not to leave traces on-site? Unless you mean bullet jackets, but unless I'm wrong they're not made from brass.
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 Месяц назад
@@M8Military Thanks for the info.
@bills6093
@bills6093 Месяц назад
@@donjones4719 The plot is actually better than that. Columbo does not suspect that a caliber conversion kit was used, nor does Columbo find the kit. Columbo just suspects that this guy is hiding something, probably a gun. Columbo uses the suspect's own film technique of subliminal cuts to modify the suspect's own promotional film, to plant the idea in his head of his office being searched by Columbo. The suspect himself rushes back to his office, because of the subliminal suggestions in the promotional film, and reveals what he has hidden there, the caliber conversion kit.
@karlbrundage7472
@karlbrundage7472 Месяц назад
Went through US Navy Basic Training in 1983 and these were the pistols we used for "familiarization" with the M1911A1.
@TheIrishAmish
@TheIrishAmish Месяц назад
Was going to post this same info, only 1978.
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 Месяц назад
Same in 1989
@gordonsandine4261
@gordonsandine4261 Месяц назад
'85 in Orlando for me; everyone got to shoot five rounds of .22, and the top five scores got to shoot five rounds of .45. As I recall, we were never told what we actually scored. It seemed the idea was to get everyone to cap off their five rounds & get on to the next evolution. It wasn't until we got back to barracks that me & two other guys were informed that we missed out on a marksmanship ribbon by a few points. Dunno if that was actually true, but it cheesed me off a bit that no one thought to give us a heads up that we coulda' been shooting for score.
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 Месяц назад
@@gordonsandine4261 I ended up qualifying on my own. Had an accident where I got my hand crushed in a rope in deck. During my recovery, Doctor recommended target shooting. Police range right next to NAVHOSP Long Beach, and on doctor orders I went shooting there almost daily after work, while on Limdu. There was a Reservest GMG, running the range and I ended up buying a revolver and qualified with that. Got my Expert pistol medal. I think I must have been one of the last to qual with a .38. I used a Smith and Wesson 686.
@joegoetz8884
@joegoetz8884 Месяц назад
Dad was in a pre-war Cavalry unit that was half horse, half armored car. They went on to fight in France with M8 armored cars. He knew all about the Service Ace (and Browning machine guns !).
@jaimesan2609
@jaimesan2609 Месяц назад
How in the world did they get a horse to breed with a armored car?
@610jrod
@610jrod Месяц назад
​@@jaimesan2609Operation Stapler
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Месяц назад
@@jaimesan2609 Lot's of whiskey and Nat King Cole records.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy Месяц назад
So ELP's Tarkus wasn't all that far-fetched.
@jimlasswell4491
@jimlasswell4491 Месяц назад
My Dad ended up over there too just before 'the bulge'. Armored cars, halftracks and jeeps. He made no mention of the motorcycles being where he was. Have to wonder if our fathers knew each other.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Месяц назад
i remember that in the novel, "without remorse", John Clark used a silenced m1911 comverted to fire 0.22 cal.
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 Месяц назад
A fairly well written story about how alot of people owned those in the day as well
@JosephDawson1986
@JosephDawson1986 Месяц назад
I could have sworn that he used a Browning Hi-Power in .22lr. I could be mistaken since I havent read Without Remorse in nearly 20 years
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 Месяц назад
@@JosephDawson1986 Nope, ace conversion on a 1911
@JosephDawson1986
@JosephDawson1986 Месяц назад
@@99dsm1 it Has been 20 years so the fact I even remembered it was a .22 amazes me
@johnnymnemonic69
@johnnymnemonic69 Месяц назад
Very clever 😏 and bad ass too
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Месяц назад
US Navy was still using those things when I went through recruit training in 1989.
@pctotty
@pctotty Месяц назад
Yup, same here, in 1988.
@jamesjustus6568
@jamesjustus6568 Месяц назад
Oh yeah. 1984 for me.
@cases2939
@cases2939 Месяц назад
Now they use the nintendo "duck hunt" light-gun.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Месяц назад
@@cases2939 The duck hunt "gun" was actually a crude tv camera
@davidroot6146
@davidroot6146 Месяц назад
That's what they used at Great Lakes in 19889
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Месяц назад
When my brother was in the reserves he said they practiced tank main gun firing at the Army Reserve facility in Milwaukee. Indoor facility with a .22 mounted in the breech of an M60 turret.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 24 дня назад
When we Finns still used the 55 S 55 recoilless gun there was a training round that consisted of a 7,62×39 tracer bullet in a 7,65 Parabellum case.
@mikemoore4033
@mikemoore4033 Месяц назад
US military prior to World War Two; uses .22 calibre training gun to save a few bucks. US military today; loses track of trillions of dollars.
@renzo_kookin4208
@renzo_kookin4208 Месяц назад
"loses"
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni Месяц назад
[The Great Depression] People were more thrifty in the thirties, for some reason.
@mikemoore4033
@mikemoore4033 Месяц назад
@@renzo_kookin4208You’re right, I should have said allegedly “loses” trillions.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Месяц назад
​@@Stevarooni Curiously though. People still were building houses, buying cars etc. Not everybody was broke.
@Alan.livingston
@Alan.livingston Месяц назад
@@mpetersen6there is always a slice of the population that does very well from poor economic times. Normally people who carry substantial wealth into the decline and can exploit other people’s hard luck. It’s surprising easy to buy a house when the bank is foreclosing on all your neighbours.
@todglenn2707
@todglenn2707 Месяц назад
I have a late model Colt ACE (late 1970s production). They are very nicely made, but need a lot of cleaning. Mine starts to have issues after about 100 rounds until cleaned. Accuracy is fair and magazines are hard to find and expensive. Even the late guns bring a premium. I can only Imagine what an early gun like that would fetch today. Great info, as always.
@coopandcarter
@coopandcarter Месяц назад
I bought an Ace made in 1937, it is in immaculate condition. I hate to admit it, but it was $ 8400.00. Crazy, I know.
@DonDyarprecision
@DonDyarprecision Месяц назад
@@coopandcarter A work of art! One can spend that much for a painted jug in an art store.
@Glocktologist
@Glocktologist Месяц назад
I would imagine that having a dead end like that in the pressurized system would cause carbon and other gunk to build up.
@samueltucker8473
@samueltucker8473 Месяц назад
Great little trainer. . . Beautiful practical tool. . . well preserved, cataloged and documented
@samueltucker8473
@samueltucker8473 Месяц назад
'Dispatcher'
@samueltucker8473
@samueltucker8473 Месяц назад
Artistic liberties not at all uncommon. . .
@shlong142
@shlong142 Месяц назад
I hope your channel hasn't been effected by YT recent monetization changes. anyone reading the comments look into it. PLEASE! some really good firearms channels that are super informative and apolitical have been effected. I've always appreciated your attention to detail and historical accuracy.
@brownro214
@brownro214 Месяц назад
Firearms channels with millions of subscribers are being demonitized and videos with embedded sponsors advertising firearms and components are being deleted from the platform. RU-vid is going all out on its anti-2A crusade.
@falloutpc1964
@falloutpc1964 11 дней назад
I never knew those details about Carbine Williams. I watched that movie with my dad many times when i was a kid. He loved the M1 Garand and Carbine which were still being used when he was in the army in the early 60s.
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib Месяц назад
VERY interesting, thanks. Amazing that that small amount of movement was enough to cycle the slide.
@robinblackmoor8732
@robinblackmoor8732 17 дней назад
Here we go again. I don't need one, but after Ian does a video, I want one.
@ROBERTNABORNEY
@ROBERTNABORNEY Месяц назад
1) The last US mounted cavalry charge was by the 26th Cavalry (Philippine Scouts) using their M1911A1's 2) Many National Guard Armories had 22 caliber ranges in the basement. In the ROTC unit where I was a cadet, we had an indoor range next to the drill hall.
@petebeatminister
@petebeatminister Месяц назад
When was that 1) ?
@ROBERTNABORNEY
@ROBERTNABORNEY Месяц назад
@@petebeatminister "The 26th Cavalry Regiment, consisting mostly of Philippine Scouts, was the last U.S. cavalry regiment to engage in horse-mounted warfare. When Troop G encountered Japanese forces at the village of Morong on 16 January 1942, Lieutenant Edwin P. Ramsey ordered the last cavalry charge in American history"
@petebeatminister
@petebeatminister Месяц назад
@@ROBERTNABORNEY Against the Japanese in WW2? That didn't end well, I assume.
@DevilbyMoonlight
@DevilbyMoonlight Месяц назад
I remember being told my my grand father who was a WW1 vet that they used to drape a wet blanket over a washing line as a backstop for the 1911
@mOOOp42
@mOOOp42 Месяц назад
Did you just say a 22LR conversion of a 1919 machine gun??? I need to see that
@benn454
@benn454 Месяц назад
American 180 on steroids
@ayyyyph2797
@ayyyyph2797 Месяц назад
Well Tippmann's did make a 22LR chambered downscale of a M1919 so it's not impossible
@allanlarrett6015
@allanlarrett6015 Месяц назад
Thanks!
@Dstev98141
@Dstev98141 Месяц назад
I find the floating barrel insert interesting, I have two versions of the CMMG 22 cal conversion kits for the ar, I see a resemblance in how they are made and used! Very cool, thanks Ian!
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m Месяц назад
Thanks for showing this beauty of a conversion unit Ian, the Colt Ace is a pretty nice training pistol despite some of its setbacks and hefty price tag. It would make a very nice collection piece.
@Scuggish
@Scuggish Месяц назад
Hey it's the video that was posted by accident for like 5 minutes!
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 Месяц назад
Yep! Saw it then, glad to see it back now
@mannywilliams6409
@mannywilliams6409 Месяц назад
The one gun I truly regret selling!
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane Месяц назад
Ouch!
@TheSunnyvaleTrailerPark
@TheSunnyvaleTrailerPark Месяц назад
Informative, educational and fun. Ian you got a talent for producing videos, just don't change your format and the world will always be enjoying your work. ✌️
@zacharyailes1678
@zacharyailes1678 Месяц назад
The Winchester G31 rifle video was suggested for me yesterday- the beginning of Ian’s treatment of Carbine Williams’ story 🤓
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Месяц назад
A fun and fascinating story it is! One of those "only in America" type things.
@jimlasswell4491
@jimlasswell4491 Месяц назад
My Dad's National Guard unit was called up in 1941 before Pearl Harbor and he headed to Texas, he was cavalry. The Army was still converting from revolvers to automatics and the ammunition supply was out of whack. More auto rounds than revolver rounds, thus the half moon clips. Dad told me the automatic was generally hated, no one could hit anything with it. He never mentioned a .22 variant.
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n Месяц назад
The one-handed shooting technique at the time probably wasn't favorable to that big moving slide.
@jimlasswell4491
@jimlasswell4491 Месяц назад
Indeed but the notion that recoil throws the round off its intended path didn't help anything either.
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 Месяц назад
Those guns using moon clips were designed to use 45 acp with moon clips, there were no "revolver" rounds for the m1917 revolver
@jimlasswell4491
@jimlasswell4491 Месяц назад
@@99dsm1 Yes, but I wasn't referring to the M 1917, I was referring to the M 1909 in .45 long colt. Everybody didn't get the new stuff. In the Marine Corps I was using a Remington 1911 manufactured in 1940.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Месяц назад
The half moon clips date from 1917 - the revolver cylinders were modified to take them (usually as a factory mod but sometimes as a third party alteration or armory rebuild).
@carpetbagger652003
@carpetbagger652003 Месяц назад
This is the gun I was trained on in the Navy in 1987.
@AnthonySanborn-g8m
@AnthonySanborn-g8m 6 дней назад
I just wanted to thank you for these videos they are very nice and informational it will help me in my future of buying different types of weapons
@michaelmclaughlin7328
@michaelmclaughlin7328 Месяц назад
I had a Colt .22 conversion for my .45 ACP and the floating chamber really worked, it gave the same recoil effect as the .45.
@edlane4301
@edlane4301 Месяц назад
Thanks Ian really enjoy your content...especially the obscure and French arms!
@xrysoryba
@xrysoryba Месяц назад
Remington also used the floating chamber on a couple of their .22 autoloading rifles so they could use shorts, longs and long rifles interchangeably.
@scott2836
@scott2836 Месяц назад
When Ian mentioned that there as less need for cavalry to be shooting one-handed from the saddle, I was thinking of the famous John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn scene where he delivers the “fill your hands, you son of a bitch” line, puts the reins between his teeth, and is firing with a gun in either hand.. Classic…
@americangangster1911
@americangangster1911 Месяц назад
Yesterday I saw Hickok 45 put out a video where he talked about receiving a strike for having a gun related sponsor. Apparently RU-vid made up some new rules recently.
@tenofprime
@tenofprime Месяц назад
We are approaching election cycle, the already insane rules on YT always get even more crazy around now.
@Zoey_KL
@Zoey_KL Месяц назад
jfc do you live under a rock? that situation has been resolved for almost a week. Get your head out your ass
@brandonobaza8610
@brandonobaza8610 Месяц назад
So, it's basically one-inch-punch operated? 😁
@233kosta
@233kosta Месяц назад
Impulse is impulse 😉 Same as short-stroke gas systems.
@SharpForceTrauma
@SharpForceTrauma Месяц назад
This is gonna get demonetized/taken down immediately. RU-vid is cracking down on sponsorships from anything in the firearms industry.
@cooperludwig3842
@cooperludwig3842 Месяц назад
yeah prob
@bigbelix
@bigbelix Месяц назад
Bro where have u been they started doing that like 5 years ago at this point lmao
@sethrogers8473
@sethrogers8473 Месяц назад
​@@bigbelix Yes, but it's at the point where they are threatening to take down channels not videos. Hickok45 put out a PSA on it. Basically old videos sponsored by the gun industry risk losing money or having videos taken down while new videos could cost you your entire channel
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Месяц назад
@@SharpForceTrauma you heard about that. Bad news for RU-vid gun fans.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Месяц назад
@@bigbelix there was a major change in terms of service in June.
@clintstephens7287
@clintstephens7287 Месяц назад
I have an original Colt conversion kit new in the box never installed. My dad bought it in 50's or 60's.
@jamesdouglas8760
@jamesdouglas8760 Месяц назад
Another excellent 360 history presentation. I am curious about his secret making moonshine, must have been very good.
@bruceabbott3941
@bruceabbott3941 Месяц назад
Remington made an autoloader rifle, the Model 550, that used the same floating chamber, and would digest shorts, longs, and long rifles interchangeably from its tube magazine. I grew up with one, a 550-1, that my half-brother, a sub-mariner in the Navy, purchased for our father in a PX in Morocco in the early 1950's. I don't recall it ever jamming, but it was a bear to tear down and clean...
@austinpatkos7563
@austinpatkos7563 Месяц назад
These conversions are always so cool. It almost seems more difficult to convert an existing firearm into something completely different but sort of keeping it the same externally, rather than just building something from the ground up.
@eldoradocanyonro
@eldoradocanyonro Месяц назад
Take a look at the rock island 22mag pistol. It's kind of a crossover....at first glance it looks like a 1911, but a little different. It's not a conversion, but it's not something entirely new either. Definitely a hybrid, if you will.
@GunsmithSid
@GunsmithSid Месяц назад
I’ve known tens of the floating chamber Ace guns - never knew there was a straight blowback version!
@judelarkin2883
@judelarkin2883 Месяц назад
For another pre-WWII US military cost savings measure, check out the US’s M1937 blue denim uniform. It was basically a Canadian tuxedo for the battlefield.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Месяц назад
I can't say why I am Al so interested in things made specifically for the U S Calvary, but this is nifty no matter where it was used. Thank you Ian for explaining another Forgotten Weapons
@LongPeter
@LongPeter Месяц назад
Huh. I independently thought of that floating chamber idea ages ago and wondered if it had ever been tried. Actually, assumed it must have been tried by people smarter than me and found not to work. Nice to know it does actually serve a purpose :)
@RebelFlag61
@RebelFlag61 Месяц назад
The frame still has a 45 extractor but it’s there to support the 22 extractor. Slick.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns Месяц назад
At least as late as 1987, the navy was still using the Colt Ace for giving the "bootcamps" at RTC Great Lakes, IL familiarization practice training. Sadly, for some reason that I have forgotten, my company when I was there didn't get to shoot at all.
@patrickshannon4854
@patrickshannon4854 14 дней назад
Just watched an episode of Dracinifel on Admiral Nimitz. There is a photo (@14:43) showing Admiral Nimitz Bullseye style shooting a Service Ace.
@PalKrammer
@PalKrammer Месяц назад
What a fascinating story and a very cool gun.
@jonathan_60503
@jonathan_60503 Месяц назад
That's mechanically elegant
@korblborp
@korblborp Месяц назад
in b4 this gets you a strike because of the sponsorship...
@Meyer-gp7nq
@Meyer-gp7nq Месяц назад
Yt gay fr
@Scandibilly
@Scandibilly Месяц назад
Yt gets a streetshidder for a CEO. Streetshidder immediately starts shidding all over yt.
@Choochificational
@Choochificational Месяц назад
go home with that racist garbage, the ceo is bad sure, but thats completely unrelated to his ethnicity
@charlesmckinley29
@charlesmckinley29 Месяц назад
Thanks Ian
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 Месяц назад
Very cool pistol
@ronmoore6598
@ronmoore6598 Месяц назад
As always, very cool!
@DevinMoorhead
@DevinMoorhead Месяц назад
Frickin early gang checking in
@Rrgr5
@Rrgr5 Месяц назад
That floating chamber system is interesting, I wonder if it wasn't used in other types of small arms, probably the patent limited the application, considering how the M1 Carbine was made by winchester and that patent was sold to Colt, would be interesting to see how the carbine would work with that system instead of the one we all know.
@4catsnow
@4catsnow Месяц назад
In 1974 I purchased Mark IV Series 70 in .45....$150.....a month later bought the Conversion Kit for $118. Went right on the gun, no problem..pretty accurate...not a tack driver, but reasonable...One caveat...it doesn't like 18 pound recoil springs..
@bthatguy1181
@bthatguy1181 Месяц назад
Hollywood misled us?! No way!
@Glocktologist
@Glocktologist Месяц назад
It’s relatively easy to design complex machines. To make something happen with fewer parts takes a genius. I would imagine that carbon buildup is an issue with a ”dead end” like that with little clearance. But since it comes apart so easily and is not a gunfight gun, it’s not a huge drawback.
@armoredman
@armoredman Месяц назад
I got to fire five rounds through a Colt Ace in Navy Boot camp in 1986. That was it. No checking the target, either,.
@herberar
@herberar Месяц назад
I have an argentinian H.A.F.D.A.S.A. ( Ballester Molina) . It shoots really well but it has a different ejector.
@MrBigboy3178
@MrBigboy3178 Месяц назад
Very cool, Ian. could you highlight the similarities and differences between a floating chamber like this and a hesitation lock like in the Remington R51.
@cloudpumper6399
@cloudpumper6399 Месяц назад
I remember navy boot camp. This was the basic firearm for training. 1989
@joemontgomery6658
@joemontgomery6658 Месяц назад
Have you considered going to the North Carolina history museum in Raleigh? There’s a decent display of prototype firearms from Carbine Williams
@johnmadow5331
@johnmadow5331 Месяц назад
I have a rebuild Ace M-1911that I brought long time ago. This one was reserialized with colt slide.
@stanleyronblake1646
@stanleyronblake1646 Месяц назад
Hugh Fairfax: I GOT AN IDEA...
@araxonUK
@araxonUK Месяц назад
Antreg produced very high quality CZ75 style pistol on same principle call Orion.
@WorldofGuns-s5o
@WorldofGuns-s5o Месяц назад
Content is very good.
@nightwolf4838
@nightwolf4838 Месяц назад
Would love to see a Argentine Sistema 1927 video
@bretsubotnik1777
@bretsubotnik1777 Месяц назад
Gotta be new sights, great video, I have a kimber upper, have problems
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Месяц назад
Very interesting; thanks! Somewhat off topic, I have recently seen the tappet system referred to as a short-stroke piston system. It took me aback for a moment, but on reflection I see the reasoning. To me, though, it will always be a tappet system.
@luisantolafrancis519
@luisantolafrancis519 Месяц назад
just yesterday i was looking at hickok 45 video covering the new google / youtube politics in regards guns related chanells and they suck bigtime , Regardless this is a great video ,i happen to have the argentine version of the colt Ace ,the Ballester Molina in 22lr and works exactly the same but has a frame that is prepared for 22lr ejection so it does not need the ejector mounted inbetween the barrel and the slide as separate piece , it has the floating chamber an works great . in Argentina were produced some convertions over the original 45 acp ballester molinas that were produced by the Barcatti factory that had this feature of floating chamber , modified ejector ,floating chamber and 22lr magazines inserted into the original 45acp mags.
@SM-hp8fy
@SM-hp8fy Месяц назад
Good one
@ggsay1687
@ggsay1687 Месяц назад
Cavalry armed with Colt .45 and charging against Panzer IV, that's surreal to imagine.
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak Месяц назад
Very interesting system!
@subterfusion4005
@subterfusion4005 Месяц назад
I often wonder about the narrative of Carbine Williams being a grumpy sort. Ill bet it depends on whose doing the telling. It couldnt have been much fun being an ex con tossed in with a bunch of ivy league engineers in New Haven. Thats just asking for trouble lol. At the North Carolina History Museum in Raleigh, they have his entire workshop inside lock, stock, and barrel. They have several of his prototype weapons there including i believe a blow forward carbine as well as a floating chamber conversion of a long recoil model 8 Remington. The famous Winchester model 59 fiberglass barreled shotgun also features the Williams floating chamber.
@commandZee
@commandZee 29 дней назад
Ooh... Please tell me more about the actual cavalry horseback .22 1911 training.
@ralphcurran8147
@ralphcurran8147 Месяц назад
Great info!!
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 Месяц назад
"Limited budget"..... nowadays the military has no problem spending all of the taxpayer dollars
@beerdrinker6452
@beerdrinker6452 Месяц назад
Nice video.
@brass427
@brass427 Месяц назад
Another very interesting video.
@paulstuhrenberg9165
@paulstuhrenberg9165 Месяц назад
HK used Marshals floating chamber design in their P7 .22LR K3 pistol
@brianfoster4434
@brianfoster4434 Месяц назад
When I went to US Navy bootcamp in 1987, we shot a .22 LR version of the 1911. Seven rounds and.... I was qualified. LOL!
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 Месяц назад
Interesting, as usual!
@mrsmith8436
@mrsmith8436 Месяц назад
So explain how this pistol has more recoil than a standard blowback version?🤔
@OwnerusInnovations
@OwnerusInnovations 29 дней назад
Ownerus I prototyped and patented a conversion similar to this except it used the standard 1911 and only changed the barrel and magazine. No modifications to the gun and all function like last shot hold open worked. Surprisingly (to me anyway) I couldn't generate any interest from anyone with the resources to bring it to production. So not such a great idea after all I guess. But I proved it could be done. With that and $4 I can get a bad cup of coffee😂
@JohnVoll-kp7qb
@JohnVoll-kp7qb Месяц назад
Norway also made a conversion kit for the M 1914.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 29 дней назад
Imagine having to ever say "the US amry's very limited budget".
@kennkrizsanitz7820
@kennkrizsanitz7820 Месяц назад
Was wondering how long ago this was filmed, went to there site shows out of stock.
@user-dd4zg2ls5y
@user-dd4zg2ls5y Месяц назад
Wow, no closed captioning on advertising! You tube has jumped the shark.
@clothar23
@clothar23 Месяц назад
A ten round mag for a trainer. When the original only holds seven..huh that makes total sense.
@brownro214
@brownro214 Месяц назад
You don’t have to load 10.
@alexanderf8451
@alexanderf8451 Месяц назад
Wouldn't the difference in recoil and external ballistics make this of really limited use as a trainer?
@foreverjim5240
@foreverjim5240 Месяц назад
YO!! is that a black PHANTOM on the wall behind you???? Do a video on that. THAT'S AWESOME!! I wish ian still read his comments. Somebody please tell him!
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 Месяц назад
The chamber is also the piston. Actually cleaver idea.
@WillyKling
@WillyKling Месяц назад
Is the color difference in bluing on the slide stop notch also due to heat treatment?.
@WillyKling
@WillyKling Месяц назад
@TeIe-me.ForgotenWeapons Don't pretend to be the owner of this channel, it is cringe.
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 Месяц назад
Wowza
@user-od3cl9om3j
@user-od3cl9om3j Месяц назад
Was there a minimum fps cartridge that could be used to cycle the gun, or did the floating chamber take care of that problem? Enjoy your show, Thanks Ian!
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 Месяц назад
I'm assuming this wouldn't work on a full power rifle cartridge as the acceleration of the "chamber" into the bolt would be too great leading to HK-like problems. But would it work for centerfire pistol cartridges?
@zecaoalfredo4242
@zecaoalfredo4242 Месяц назад
I dont know if I'm missing something, but why use this floating chamber tapet system to move the slide if there is nothing locking the slide in the first place?
@treintaceroseis3081
@treintaceroseis3081 Месяц назад
Esto ya lo vi en una conversión de Ballester Molina.
@monotech20.14
@monotech20.14 Месяц назад
Why can't RU-vidrs just put the ad or the sponsorship at the start of the video. I'd bet dollars to donuts more people would actually watch it. Instead of the ad coming on mid sentence.
@66smithra
@66smithra Месяц назад
Sponsors pay more for embedded ads that can't simply be skipped at the start of the video, obviously.
@davidradich9342
@davidradich9342 Месяц назад
In 1989 at Great Lakes this was the only firearms training I got. And only 10 rounds. Very lame.
@PastyNoob
@PastyNoob Месяц назад
wont this video just get taken down because of the gun ad?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons Месяц назад
I have no idea; guess we will find out. I saw Hickok's video, but I can't find anything new or different in the YT rules. Of course, when they did the suppressor thing that wasn't actually announced or in the rules either.
@drsnooker1776
@drsnooker1776 Месяц назад
@@ForgottenWeaponsHope all turns out well
@indigomer
@indigomer Месяц назад
@@ForgottenWeaponsYeah, RU-vid loves to demonetize gun videos so the creators are forced to get sponsorships, and now evidence points to gun channels not being able get sponsorships now, which basically removes any ability to make an income from the platform. If that isn’t maliciously partisan then I don’t know what is.
@martinthb5284
@martinthb5284 28 дней назад
Hy, I dont quite understand the difference between this operating system and straight up simple blowback.
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