It's a breath of fresh air to have a real person with a real voice, actually narrating. All these Turkeys now who do a Y/T post, then overdub with a robot voice - I just refuse to listen to them.
This was my first time coming across your channel. I am a retired elementary social studies teacher, and I enjoyed listening to you telling this story. Knowledge is something that is taken for granted in the time we live in. Thanks again, hope you continue sharing the history of this country that many want to deny or not talk about.
In the entjrety of my education in the US I was never taught that natves were even capble of such crulty. It was always just said that settlrs were neutral at best but mostly eviI while natves were moraly superor. Many people report the same experience who were educated in our systm. Why do you think it is like that?
@@valuedCustomer2929 You're of course asking for the opinions of people who are subject matter experts on Western settlement. I'm just replying as a 73 year-old man who was educated in parochial and public schools, and in the northeast. I don't recall learning ANYTHING about this subject, although I have a vague recollection of what was meant by Manifest Destiny. Of course we all learned about the "first Thanksgiving" but know today that it was not the way it was taught. To the degree that it was ever acknowledged that there had been any kind of conflict between civilizations, we just had a vague understanding that whatever it was that happened to the Indians was inevitable. I never heard any "defense" of the natives as being noble or morally superior. They were just human beings (at best) that got in the way of the settling of the west. In fact, if the popular westerns of the time were to be believed, the Indians were ignorant and bloodthirsty and incapable of defending themselves against the superior numbers and weaponry of the western settlers and the US Army. That said, I have of course encountered people who romanticize Indian culture and maybe some of them take refuge in the idea that they were morally superior to us. That's as simplistic as believing what John Wayne and Andrew Jackson taught us. History is never that simple and the one thing we can agree on is that western settlement was sometimes a dangerous and sometimes a horrific experience, whichever side you were on. What's undeniable was that the US government devoted blood and treasure to be sure that Indian civilization was subdued - in the opinion of a regular guy with a regular education.
@@valuedCustomer2929 I bet that you were never taught that by the 15th century, the Islamic Empire had conquered 19 European countries - as well as India, and the majority of East and North Africa. Yew choob deletes stuff so I can't even talk about their thriving trade in people.
Sadly this man's take on history in no way takes into account the influx of settler's brutal expansion into native lands. There's so much history that goes untold mainly BC the invasion is told by the voice of the oppressors. The horrors on both sides of history are terrible and there's usually no good guys or bad.....just those trying to survive.
@@carolmacdonald2918 Agreed and an excellent point. I can certainly say that the silence I experienced as a student was surely deliberate and a way of avoiding the accountability we should have learned. The same sentiment exists today in the efforts to suppress other legacies of the American experiment that are uncomfortable or inconvenient.
Holy Cow! 55yrs old & I probably can count on my two hands the number of YT videos I've watched from beginning to end - This easily makes the top 5 !!! Great Orator!
I grew up being told of my ancestors that were victims of an Indian raid in central Texas. Several family members died at their hands, but 2 children survived. Their mother hid them in a flour barrel when she saw Indians approaching. The story says the children spent the night with the bodies of their slaughtered family still lying outside their home. They were rescued by neighbors the next morning. The older child, a girl of about 10 years, was my direct ancestor, several generations back.
For a moment I thought you were describing what the Native people of this country had gone through for so so many years. Then they got tired of being treated that way and gave the Europeans a taste of their own medicine. Or maybe the Comanche were retaliating for the 100,000 people who were removed from their land forced to move westward. So many possibilities.
@@johnmcbride1749west bank is not theft. It was won from Jordan by Israel in a war of self defense for its existence, and it has always had communities of Jews living there, this is also known as Judea and Samaria. Half a dozen Muslim nations called to throw the Jews into the sea and lost. Then they got to set the terms of the deal, since when do losers of a war dictate the terms? And Gaza and Sinai from Egypt, Sinai it returned in exchange for peace and Egypt refused to take back Gaza, not wanted to the population living there. Theft is what Arab nations did to 850,000 (far more than Palestinians according to the UN) Jews it threw out if it's lands and froze their property and assets to this day not letting them get them back.
@@bennyhill7487for a moment I thought you were speaking from an educated standpoint, then I realized you are a moron who gives zero acknowledgement that the indigenous tribes of America were never peaceful. They conducted conquest, massacres, and forced displacement for centuries before the arrival of Europeans, who simply possessed the technology and resources to do it better. The Comanche almost rendered the Lipan extinct, as just one example. Take your virtue signaling and false, self-righteous narrative elsewhere.
@@MrDannyHeim So - getting all of the history i.e. how brutal some native American tribes were AS WELL AS how whites mistreated them is a bad thing? Stop hiding from the truth. You can try to white wash or change history all you want - but the real truth still doesn't change.
I'm 53 and this was not taught to us, at all....only stupid movies that made the Indians the "bad guy" ....the truth is messy ....murder and torture on both sides! The truth would've had our generation, "history buffs" ! Now i have a whole world of information at my fingertips,I wish I could show grandmother,my new library card...lol
@@MichelleBattersby-dw3yy I Believe that GOD ALMIGHTY is allowing that Justice be known through Truth and not the lies that have been told and passed down. Let the Truth Be Known! All Glory To GOD ALMIGHTY! Praised Be YOU KING JESUS… HALLELUJAH!
@@tmaddrummer I appreciate your faith , but we're responsible as individuals (every human)how we live and respect for all life ....organized religion didn't teach me that! (went to a Baptist Christian school and was beaten almost every day, now that's some evil shit)
For anyone interested in what happened to Cynthia Ann Parker, an amazing read is "Empire of the Summer Moon" by S. C. Gwynne. An audio version is also available. I don't want to say anything and spoil your read. I truly enjoyed the book.
Katheryn, I have just finished reading that book, and found it amazing! I thought her son that became the head of the Comanche tribes was really a heart felt unique man himself. I really loved him thru most of the book. It could get pretty gory on both sides, just have to say.
Of all the spoken history channels, I find your narrative style to be the easiest to listen to. The tone of voice conveys, for me, the implacability of the circumstances and helps to recreate just how incredible the fight for survival in a hostile environment truly was. It's a real reminder of the history. A sobering task to recall it for others but it carries a realism that is rare to find
I agree I love the delivery and I love the speed at which he speaks I didn't have to speed up the playback no annoying pauses. I Was riveted to the story and the music in the background was not distracting it added to the whole ambience I really appreciated this and I for one cannot wait to hear you tell the Captive story. The little bit that you told of the story was so vivid that I think that I will dream of it.
Agreed. He has combined tastefully spare music, visceral storytelling straight from the history books and a dry delivery to let the material speak for itself. After that, all the listener has to do is play the visual element in their own mind, which is what true storytelling has always allowed people to do@@christie4004
For those wondering about Rachel's story, they took her healthy 6 week old baby and threw him on the ground to kill him. When she was able to revive him, they tied a rope to his legs and drug him through cactus until his body was torn apart. Literally pure evil.
Although very tragic and horrific in parts, the productions and narration of these excellent stories are second to none. It must have taken a long time and a lot of hard work to produce, I really appreciate them. I particularly like, how you show respect and are unbiased, and sensitive, not going too deep in the gory parts. Another thing is it awakens some of our darkest fears held from childhood and watching old movies. But still, The way you describe events is so vivid and visual, I feel I'm there, and wonder what I'd be like and do in these situations. So glad I discovered you. I find it fascinating. Thank you..great job.
Back in the day people used to wonder how they would have behaved in Hitler's Germany - now I know after 2020. Human nature can be weak and terrible at the same time.
BTW Rachel died in 1839 not 1939. She died like a week before her 20th birthday. I believe if I got the dates right. For only having lived 19 years, what a life she had, and the fact that her writing and her life story still live on in peoples memory still is amazing to me. Another fascinating thing I learned, was that the Comanche had such low birth rates that they kept captives, and raised them to be members of the tribe when they were child bearing age. I never knew that they had such low birth rates pretty amazing stuff. Thanks again.
Since I was a young child I have been fascinated by the Native American history / way of life and throughout the years bought many a book on the subject but discovering this place brings that history to life - congratulations , sir on creating this most valuable of sites .
@@FFGG22E To be honest, some Native Americans were very nobly and had good morals. Not all of them were Satanic savages. The ones who were tend to get all the publicity. And don't forget, a lot of Whites were evil and cruel, too. Gen. George Custer is a perfect example of pure evil and sadism. Plus, the men who carried out the Wounded Knee Massacre in S.D.
@@FFGG22Esome yes, others were persecuted for absolutely no reason other than the sins of the evil. History and people aren't black and white, no matter how much you try to make them
yea i grew up in lawton (fort Sill) Geronimo is buried nearby in the town named after him. (supposedly anyway he was obviously Apache) Quanah Parker has streets and monuments named after him still here. Its in Comanche county so obviously the Comanches are very appreciated here. Apaches also. You can still see Geronimo's jail cell, where he paced so much the floor is worn like a hole, and the bars are bent from him constantly pulling on them.
When I was barely 10 or 11 years old my brothers and sisters and I would gather around my great-grandmother's knees on the floor at her house and listen while she told us stories of "life on the prairie" . She had traveled from Europe, Norway, specifically, and crossed the Eastern United States and into the harsh Northern U.S.A., settling in Minnesota. I recall one story (after which I believe I was shocked into deafness), whereby she told a story of women who were captured by Indians and hung by their mammary glands and further tortured and mutilated, killed. As I said, I didn't hear any more after that. But I loved my great-grandmother, she was a very tough character and I respected her greatly. I was a very sheltered young girl and on some level I believe I needed a shocking revelation of the truth of life in our world, on our planet. I think it helped me not to take my life for granted, although my upbringing was hard, I never complained.
I am also from Northern Minnesota and I’m Norwegian. Up here in Lake of the Woods there’s an island called “massacre island”. French Voyageurs were the first settlers of the area they were traveling across Lake of the Woods via canoe…they were met by a Sioux war tribe, who came to attack the Ojibwe..instead the Sioux ran into 21 Frenchman. All the Frenchmen perished
You kept me on the edge of my seat telling this tragic story. Id love to know more about Rachael's story. In the meantime, I'm on my way to watch your other videos! Thanks!
My great and great great grandmothers survived a Palo Pinto County Comanche raid just before the onset of the civil war. Shot by arrows and left for dead, went on to have long and fruitful lives. They stayed. I don't know if I could have done that.
I enjoy listening the stories you're telling. There's something magical in your representation of the past. The closest I can describe it is as sitting next to a bonfire somewhere in the wilderness at night, covered with a blanket, with a good warm coffee in my hand, and listening an old friend telling his passed experience. Keep up the good work sir, and if possible release new videos more often. Would you as well consider including the gold rush stories and the impact the process has had over the natives as well as stories of yet uncovered hidden treasures ( Superstition Mountains etc. )
That’s very kind of you. It means a lot. Much time goes into these videos. I working on finding a way to get more content out. One of my hopes as the channel grows is to start working with an editor. By the end of the year I would love to be in a place where I am getting out a video every two weeks.
@@datesanddeadguysEvent if you have to sacrifice some of the visuals in favor of release videos more often, please do. I like the visuals but I ( and probably most of the audience ) enjoy much more listening the stories, being told in this magical way.
You might want to look up Herman Lehrman who was an Indian captive. You might also look up Baron John O.Meusbach head of the German settlers in Fredericksburg.He made a treaty with them which neither side broke The town of Baby head in Llano County was named because there was an Indian raid and they stole a baby .Settlers went after them, but all they found was a baby,s head Near San Antonio is Woman,s Hollering Creek.One story is a woman was washing clothes in the creek and saw native Americans approaching and shouting a warning.Now on an old Bexar County map saw it as Indian Woman Hollow Creek Wish I had bought the map years ago .
@@datesanddeadguys It's what we as humans have done since time immemorial-- listen to stories. Sometimes the visuals just get in the way and interrupt the flow. Maybe set the scene in the beginning with a visual, then just go on to tell the story. You have a very good voice and manner for this kind of thing. Thank you for what you're doing!
I grew up in San Antonio and always heard the term “Comanche Moon” only to learn later in life that it meant on a full moon Comanches would attack and or steal all the horses thereby stranding the soldiers or settlers.
This reminds me of the things my Greek grandfathered relayed when his village was attacked by invading Italians. His entire village was lined up and shot point blank in their mouths and faces, and his entire village slaughtered. The only one to survive to tell the tale was his half-brother who hid under their house as he watched his entire family murdered. Uncle Spiros never got over it. He was the last of his family line. He searched for years for his oldest brother in America. Eventually he found us. War has two sides, the victors and the losers. My grandfather's peasant village was no match for the rifle-armed, well-trained Italian soldiers. They were captured and slaughtered without mercy. Women and children were not spared either. While the Greeks were fierce fighters, the small, unarmed villiages were no match for rifles and bullets. My grandfather mourned the loss of his father and siblings the rest of his life. Any people would fight.and raid if their homeland was invaded. This is a repeating theme since time immemorial.
History no matter how gruesome , is probably the most important school subject. When you analyse the subject matter ( whatever that might be ) it gives you a broader insight into human nature. It becomes a bit of a compass and if you learn from it hopefully we won’t make the same mistakes . But these days people want to either delete or alter history to suit their own narrative. Very good video 👍👍
Here's an example of an Anglo. Trying hard to keep horrific narratives about a specific group. But continue to paint themselves as the heroes and the victims😂
Please tell this to the idiot that is in charge of Florida as governor... and maybe he can tell his fellow idiot friends... Because history is repeated... and not always exactly how the original attacks happened.... People who are trying to change history or just hide it, had best beware of karma....
Liberals and their communist masters want to delete or alter history to suit their own fake history lie. Stop pretending both sides do it. It allows the communists attempting a coup to escape without consequences.
@@bestia2.063LOL. You communist rewriters of history are the ones spinning narratives...also known as lies...to paint your Marxist victim groups as the losers and then leverage them for power. Stuff it Scooter.
Silas took out 4 Comanche warriors. Many stories came out about the ferocity of the Comanche warriors, however there were many American soldiers, frontiersmen, and Army veterans who fought and beat the Comanche in lopsided victories. Often small groups of frontiersmen and Army veterans went out and defeated them with stunning success. Good vid.
@@ThatGuy-rdoYou mean Literally very true, bro LOL Historical fact, and the obvious results of them that are the very world you live in, don't care about your feelings 😅
@sanichedgedawg the results are quite the opposite, 90% at the time period have already died due to disease, and the vast majority of the rest died due to fighting other tribes the others died to our now liberal government and maybe some died due to these guys don't forget natives the US calvary couldn't take them Rangers got wiped there were numerous things that led to their demise educate yourself
It’s ironic to me that today many of the people who have deemed the Comanche to simply be a group of victims would have been hated by them for dishonoring their courage and would have been slaughtered by them if the Comanche thought it necessary.
Yes, if you've lived on your own land for hundreds of years, your history if there, your homes, your crops and Europeans come and think it's their right to take that land then I believe they had a right to defend their land and themselves.
@@SB-mm9zh The Europeans never ran anybody off of land until years after they were sick of being kidnapped, raped, mutilated and killed by Attackers from Outside of their small communities. And besides... I thought that the Natives Didn't Believe In Possessions or the concept of Possessing Land...🤔 leftists' myriad contradictions are absurd.😂
The Comanche way of life was stealing horses, murdering anyone who got in their way, and enslaving and torturing captives of all ethnicities. Their barbarian ways were bound to conflict with those who chose lives based on building a productive society.
What about the Apache? That land was previously Apache land. Before Apache it was Navaho, Pueblo and Ute that conquered the land. Before the Navaho, Pueblo and Ute they conquered the Anasazi, Hokam and Mogolian. And before the Anasazi, Hokam and Mogollon it was occupied by Paleo-Indian cultures. Calling out Europeans as being evil in some way is the history of the world. It has always conquer or be conquered.
So very, very well done, thank you. I have just recently finished the book Empire of the Summer Moon. I wasn't certain that it would be too dry and all about the soldiers and the "horrific savages", but it turned out amazing! It mentioned Rachel Plummer a bit, but a lot more of Cynthia Ann Parker's life. And a lot more about the Comanches. They were fascinating people, very deadly, yet brilliant in they're people and horse training skills, sneak midnight attacks, leaving no trail, among other feats. I truly learned so much more about that time period in Texas and both the white and the Indian people of that time period. Thank you so much for telling both sides of the great west story.
Way back in my family tree, I am a descendant of the Texas Parkers. I can recall as a youngster at holidays and family gatherings how my cousin and I would be playing in the living room while the adults sat around the table and talked about the Parker family, mostly Cynthia Ann and Quanah. Now, as an adult, I wish I could have heard more of those conversations and learned that family history in detail. Empire of the Summer Moon was a great read, and I plan to get the others you mentioned.
Cynthia Parker’s story was heartbreaking! She loved her native husband and kids. A woman in the town wrote that Cynthia would often be seen walking to the very edge of town staring out across the vast landscape in the direction of her native village. Can’t imagine the torment that poor woman felt! 💔
This story of Rachel Plumber needs to be told. There is nothing nobel in brutality. Thank you for telling this piece of the tale, would appreciate the rest of the story.
I am sorry but ARE we going to talk about oppressed people defending THEMSELVES. Same story as Trans folks and Palestinians being hunted down by white supremacy!
Been sharing some of these stories with my younger kids. They are uncomfortable with them, as they are taught in the Canadian school system that Indians are victims, did always good, and only white folks committed crimes. I appreciate the more balanced perspective from this channel, very much. Thank you.
It's ridiculously unbalanced here. It encourages the natives to lie on their backs like turtles, refusing to make any efforts to improve their lives. All they do is whine & demand more reparations. 👎🏻
Yes I am Texan. My grandson was out in California in the school system and took issue with me being Texan...he said he had learned in school we murdered the Indians with relish and were evil people. I was astounded....in public school? It was the 90's...he is an adult now in the military and I imagine that early indoctrination stuck.
I understand the rage and hatred of the Indians towards the intruders. But Indians weren't saints either, they constantly fought with each other for the land, women, or just because. And the Comanche sounds like the most brutal tribe ever, a bunch of maniacs hungry for blood and suffering...
@latinaalma1947 It is history. How is that indoctrination? It happened, and that was bad. Children should learn about history, whether good or bad. In German schools, children learn ALL about WW2. You just can't leave the bad things out.
I was born in Gallup New Mexico. It's on Rt66. It's between Albuquerque and Flagstaff, Az. Our town was surrounded by the Red Rocks. I used to have nightmares about Comanche Warriors coming down out of the Red Rocks! It horrified me as a child till I found out that all happened "a long time ago"! Gallup is up by the panhandle of Texas so we were between the Navajo and Comanche reservations.
@@perryrush6563 100 miles past Albuquerque going west, is Gallup. Then 100more miles is Flagstaff Az. Gallup is where they have the Largest Pow-wow and rodeo in the world. Every. Indian tribe in Canada, United States and Mexico all converge once a year in Gallup. Fort Windgate, Kit Carson's cave are just before you get to the town. If you Don't get there the second week of September, if you blink you'll miss it!
It's interesting that since horses were not introduced to the America's until Spanish conquistadors brought them, this entire people's horse culture was contingent on prior conquest.
Was curious about specific instances of Comanche raids and abuse of their captives but what a fine storyteller I’ve found in you. Your information is well sourced and sited, quite scholarly actually and yet your delivery is one of a guy’s guy. I watched several more of your suggested videos before coming back here to comment. I just couldn’t wait to get to the next one, sorry. Good stuff!
It is good to hear some real history - the modern movies of today are rubbish if any history is involved, because there is so much revision of history - full of propaganda. Regards.
@@MrDannyHeim. First time I've come across the guy with his style of presentation. But your probably right about content, not one of America's finest hours.
The mistake everyone makes about native Americans is that they are not one group of people. There were many different nations here. Some good and some bad.
Good on you. It is a good read. I should have linked it in the description but it is old enough that you can find it online for free. I bought the audiobook version. That isn’t bad either.
You might enjoy the autobiography of Olive Oatman too. The fact that her brother never stopped looking for her and the little sister gets me every time.
Love hearing about history. There is always good and bad in every race and so many nuances that we do not understand. Different tribes, be it black, white, native American, etc have their own beliefs and ways. Thanks for this bit of history.
I thought the natives were peaceful people that got picked on for no reason 🙄 modern history sure wouldn’t like this one. Thanks for a good documentary.
REAL history tells us that some tribes were peaceful and others very brutal. The BIG difference between First Nations peoples and Europeans was First Nations warred with neighboring tribes or with tribes they encountered with migration of maybe a couple of hundred miles. Europeans crossed 2,000 miles of ocean and arrived by the hundreds, then thousands. As we spread, elk, bison, wolf, cougar populations plummeted. We overhunted, overfished, destroyed forests JUST as I suspect we did in Europe. First Nations populations plummeted too, from diseases (approximately 25) we brought from Europe, war, starvation from lack of game and being driven from their territories onto reservations. Then, to top it off, we kidnapped, coerced, bribed these people to put their children in Residential Schools to assimilate them into Anglo culture. It was to destroy their cultures, languages, spiritualities and replace with Patriarchal Christianity and culture. The last of these schools closed in the 1980s. Children DIED at these schools or ran away and were never seen again or returned to their people after several years to be possibly rejected or not trusted because of how "white" they acted. The effects are still felt today. THAT'S REAL HISTORY.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 American history classes. About 9 years ago. We barely touched on the tribes and violence between them and the US Army/ settlers back then. It was more so we did bad things, sent them on the trail of tears and now we owe them everything.
@@bricketdabrown9607 lol can hardly believe it. aren't like three quarters of US western movies all about how evil indians want to hurt the poor innocent settlers? I mean the word scalping is pretty famous. strange you never learned about that but well I guess those crimes aren't that important to the current situation. I mean damn, I'm german, half my class was about the fall of the weimar republic and how democracies fail, all the crimes that occured during the thirty years war or napoleonics were only touched upon once and then left behind. And I guess for the US it doesn't really matter what some indians did before because well the US did kind of do a little genocide on them.
No people were peaceful throughout history. Europeans, Asians, Africans and everyone else all have stories exactly like this. No one likes them because they are horrific stories. Fucken buffoon.
One ugly truth of history is the degree that man is so deeply flawed and cruel. People in the modern era have been convinced of utopian thinking, that man is perfectible, that he is inherently good, oblivious to the bottomless pit that stares them in the mirror if they would just take but a moment to observe by looking to the past. May God have mercy on us all.
It's good to see the truth about these tribes in America. There seems to be such a crybully air about the NA's. Like the Africans in South Africa, for example, they like to pretend that their part is blameless and innocent. This post is a breath of fresh, unsullied air.
Excuse my French, dear Sir or Madam, but what the fuck are you talking about? People defending themselves, their families, the group by employing brutal tactics, while brutal tactics were used against them, to seize individuals and wealth is somehow racism against Whites? Just stop. Tell the whole story, yes. But, don’t you dare say, “See? They were brutal. We were more brutal, but see just how brutal THEY were!” I don’t like where you’re coming from.
There is now BECAUSE they’ve mostly been destroyed due to manifest destiny. The crimes of ppl no longer with us do not pass on to their offspring. It’s not that hard to figure out. Unless your Elon Musk and treat it like the calculus.
What was it they called a tire around the neck filled with diesel fuel...set afire to kill the person wearing it...was that a Mandela Necktie??...it was something lije that...one South African tribe slaughtering another.
Absolutely stunningly blunt, objective and historically accurate account of history that's been neglected, forgotten, downplayed, and just another giant footnote to the total lack of importance placed on always troubling facts in our or anyone else's history. This is an invaluable service this site and its narrator performs. As it jostles us free just "a little bit"from the morass of the white liberal guilt we've been sunk in for a century at least.
These stories should come as a sobering dose to people who still believe in the "noble native" narrative. I'm from Argentina where the Pampas and Ranquel tribes from South-Central Argentina and the Araucanians (conveniently renamed Mapuche) from Southern Chile were as violent and ruthless as the Comanche. Their raids spanned many decades leaving behind death and desolation; they prized female and child captives but killed infants most of the time, there's an account of a woman who was tied by her wrists with her infant son's intestines when taken into captivity, that nice they were. The leftist woke movement in their blind defense of the "noble amerindian" prefers not to see, lest mention, the thousands of victims of raids in which countless women were simply swallowed into oblivion.
@@davejones5745 Yes, but it wasn't as simple as that, because they were brutal even before the arrival of the brutal whites, the thing that bothers me and many like me is that they now play the victim card painting themselves as saints.
So amazing to hear about Cynthia Parker and her son Quanah. I lived in Quanah Tx as young girl for about 3 years. My father was one of the ministers in town. To hear about this intersection of lives who impact so many even today, was very interesting.
My Mom Jackie Kidd was raises in Quanah Texas. My grandma Ruby Parker Kidd was the great Niece of Cynthia Parker. My Grandpa JL Kidd built the wall around the city park in Quanah in the 1930's still there.
School isn't supposed to teach you everything. If your school didn't give you a basic understanding of the relationship between native American tribes and the USA, that's on them AND you for not pursuing it. Shocking, they didn't teach horrific stories to children. Absolute idiot.
this is only story of war that paint native Americans as bad! how would you feel if someone came in and moved in and took over your home area!? Natives were here and the "settlers" came and took over like it was "okay"... of course you are going to defend your homelands... The natives!!! keep learning it's all interesting!
The truth is sometimes just ugly . How cruel humans can be is just awful. How much that poor woman and her babies endured is a story that needs to be told. What a strong woman she must have been. I am glad you are getting some of this history out in the open. Thank You.
You read the book, oh wow, about things that happened before two or three century's? Oh, that must be the reality and true, Luke. Come on, this channel and you, is just one of many bs channels full of hate, and for people full of hate... In the best scenario (for you), you're living in the past and hating the descendants of people from past. You all know nothing about war and violence. I was in war (for my country and my family) and i can recognize that this is ONE-SIDED BS!
too many people think the native americans were pure-minded, gentle, loving souls of the earth, and europeans showed up and butchered them. that's just not true. many tribes were awful, horrible, murderous people who tortured and raped their captives and their defeated enemies, killed their children, and all that.... how warlike people are depends largely on how much they HAVE to fight. the more you have to fight to survive, the more common and socially acceptable brutality becomes.
The comanche evolved into a war-like culture similar to the mongols after europeans introduced horses. They also stole old manuscripts from the spanish and learned how to hang to the side of the horse or even face backwards and shoot arrows while running away. Their hit and run tactics made them essentially invincible before USA post civil war. Similar to the Fremen in Dune, if you couldn't keep up with the party (all on horseback) you die. Children who were old enough to ride and too young to fight or be a sex slave (ages 6-13) were assimilated into the tribe.
"A Fate Worse than Death" by Gregory and Susan Michno is a catalog of documented Indian raids and captivity from 1830 to 1885. It is a great reference and foundation for captive history in the Old West.
And "Empire of the Summer Moon". Horrifying things that went on during the Indian wars and the author chose not to include some details because he thought they would be too much for readers.
@@TerrariumDiscoveryGamingMoreYou're applying today's standards to history. That doesn't work. And I'm guessing that you are enjoying the benefits that the people of those days made possible. Warfare is one thing. Torture is another.
Of course people have blood on their hands, when they are perpetrators or co-conspirators of murder. But how do you figure that they are guilty of the murderous crimes done by their ancestors, and they have not participated in that themselves? And if that sharing of guilt is a thing, then why wouldn't children also share the guilt of their murderous ancestors? Make no mistake?! SMH... 19:24
My family passed down this same life history because they lived it as well and then when I learned in school the settlers and their families were somehow the bad guys I told the teacher it was not true and I started to say why it was not true and I was sent to the office where I was told it's not about the truth it's about the story the government wants people to believe, When I grew up I married an Indian girl and she told me she would never live on the reserve or get the tax cards or land because she knew the same truth as I do and she learned it from her family. Im honestly surprised your video was allowed to stay posted,
Please tell more about Rachel Parker’s experience! I have read this graphic story, and yes it is very brutal but I think people, especially the millennials need to be more aware of the brutality of the Indian wars! From what I have read the Comanches were extremely brutal to their white captives! People need to be aware of the history of that time period ❤ Thank you!
I enjoyed this video very much. Perhaps you can do another about the massacre at Tome, NM by Comanches. It seems the Spanish settlements in the Rio Grande valley were subject to frequent Comanche raids. For some reason it appears a prominent citizen of the village of Tome became on speaking terms with a Comanche chief and his daughter became fast friends with the chief's son. The chief and Spaniard agreed that when the youngsters became old enough, they would be wed. The Comanches protected this village as a sign of friendship. When the time came, the chief visited the village looking for the daughter. The Spaniard lied and said she had died of smallpox. In short order, the chief found out the truth, and enraged, ordered the raid of Tome and the inhabitants massacred. The funny thing is sometimes I can find this story on the internet and sometimes not. Tal vez es solamente una leyenda.
Indian nations were constantly fighting before the settlers …how do you think the nations and territories were determined? And hate to say it, but advanced societies would have unfortunately led to similar outcomes, if not worse.
I could have spent some more time on that aspect. I definitely didn’t do it justice. Benjamin obviously buys time leaving the fort and Silas stays in but so do a few other men. They knew they were going to die. A very chivalrous “down with the ship” kind of choice. People back then had experiences that make me very grateful to live today.
I was looking at early census records in Texas. The first US census would be 1850, just 4 years after becoming a state. I was looking in the region of what would eventually be known as "where the West begins," just west of Fort Worth. The official record shows that a census was begun, but not completed due to Comanche raids.
From what I gather those tribes were nomads and had no land in particular but waged bloody wars and genocides long before any white settlers came. Settlers actually saved some smaller tribes from total massacre by the militant ones.@@johnmoore901
@@johnmoore901 No, it wasn't. They had just finished conquering their land from other native tribes (they came from the north one century before), and if I'm not mistaken, the Parker's fort wasn't even on those land, and it was a long distance raid.
No matter how you look at it it was a brutal invasion and massacre of native people, broken promises by the white man, pushed into remote reservations, a total disgrace.
….but my children are being taught in woke school that all Indians were peaceful and rose around on unicorns giving each other hugs - until the evil colonists arrived and ate them…..
This is an amazing find. I am a Parker and not from the white family, my great-great-grandfather was Quannah Parker. I remember my father speaking of him when he was a kid. My father was born in 1902, so he knew of him up until Quannah died in 1911. If you ever have the opportunity to go to Ft. Sill, OK, Quannah is buried there along with his mother Cynthia Ann, and her little daughter. Go also to Cache, OK where Quannah's Star House is. The US government had that home built for Quannah and his eight wives and 25 children. Quannah moved on to be a man of status achieving a lot of respect among the white people. He knew how to write and he was a judge for the Indian courts. He would wear material suits, but still wore his moccasins. Quannah made extraordinary achievements for his people.
@@olivierdastein2604 Where in the world did you hear that the cattle ranchers associated with Quannah had this home built? Cattle ranchers were not associated with Quannah, the government had this home built because of Quannah's accomplishments for his people. He also was a judge for the Indian courts and he also set up the school districts for the Indian children. The cattle ranchers wanted him dead from the raids Quannah made on them during the time he was chief. The US Gov. did this out of appreciation of his accomplishments.
@@nacona5114 I got this information from the wikipedia article about the house, that I looked up after reading your comment. It states that the US gov. refused to fund it, and that (specifically named) ranchers paid for it. His own wikipedia article also mentions him being friend with cattle ranchers. Whether or not some cattle ranchers wanted him dead, it seems that others, at some point, appreciated him.
@@olivierdastein2604 Going back on the arrangement of the government the land had to be approved by the Department of Interior for his home and the grasslands for cattle grazing. That was in 1884. Without that approval all of that grassland would have been fair game for the cattle ranchers to go and move their cattle to graze and to hoard the area for themselves. Now, Burk Burnett, did have the main influence on building the house, but it had to be approved by the Dept. of Interior for this to happen. Five other ranchers backed this up. All of this so these ranchers could lease the grasslands for their cattle and giving them the advantage of the grazing areas. The lease money did go to the Indians, which was amazing. So part of the deal was this home that was agreed upon for Quannah and his family to live in. Quannah had a relationship with Burnett and Quannah was a mentor to Burnett's son. I do know for a fact after spending a lot of time in the Cache area some are friendly to you being a member of the Parker family and others are not. I am always a bit shy when discussing my families history, it has led to a lot of friction.
