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Comb To Separate A Double Coated Fleece | Viking Age Cloth Project

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To start my Viking Age cloth reconstruction project, I will comb to separate a double coated fleece. I have an Icelandic lamb fleece and two sets of combs: Valkyrie Fine and a larger set of Indigo Hound with curved tines. Which one will work best to separate these coats of wool? Extant cloth from the Viking Age shows us that the inner and outer coats of double coated sheep were spun and used separately as warp and weft in woven cloth. So to weave my cloth for this project, we have to start by separating the tog and thel of this Icelandic fleece.
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@CobraCreates 3 года назад

Man, I can't wait to see more of this project :) I remember seeing Bernadette Banner, Morgan Donner, and other historical costumers reference those same sources. It was interesting to see how those clothes were put together, but this is an entirely different view with how the actual cloth was made. Super fascinating stuff :D

@JillianEve 3 года назад

They are amazing creators and so inspiring! How incredible were the clothes of history? So many layers of skills!!! 💖

@tannaeros Год назад

I went through the same two coat learning process when I became the owner of a Scottish terrier.

@amethyst5538 2 года назад

I know this is several months off but I am LOVING the historical videos. I love watching and have not spun but I have been wanting to learn looming. Your videos are inspiring and your personality.....I want to scream " I am not the only one ". My husband has already mentioned similarities.🤣

@JillianEve 2 года назад

Welcome fiber friend!!! There will be more of this project to come and I'm so glad you are enjoying it! ✨💗🧶

@OrchardcottagefarmCo 2 года назад

Combing wool is so relaxing. It's like meditation.

@shadowlandsfarmandcreamery5400 2 года назад

I love the smell of sheep too! Didn't know that til I bought a raw fleece😆😂❤

@nicbonhomme9877 2 года назад

Great video! As someone who also does historical reconstruction fibre work, one suggestion: try single-row combs. Double-row combs are a later invention. We use them now, of course, because they work so well and because we have the industrialized tools to make them easily. But the folks in Greenland were likely using single-row combs. I wonder if that has any affect on the results? Also, do check out the original book "Woven Into The Earth", for which the pattern book is an accompaniment. It gives even more info on the fabrics and background, as well as the fascinating story of this particular settlement. I *love* that you are doing historical recreation work - as spinners and weavers we learn SO MUCH from this type of work! THANK YOU!!!

@JillianEve 2 года назад

Thank you! I have acquired single pitch combs since this video and agree, they are much better for dual coated fleece. I would love to get my hands on "Woven into the Earth," but I do have a copy of "Medieval Garments Reconstructed." It includes so much information about the yarn itself, and I'm really hopeful that I'll have informed results! 😊❤🧶🐑

@zenophryk9419 11 месяцев назад

There have been many archeological examples of double row Viking combs that are just as old as the single row.

@greenecrayon 3 года назад

I love your videos so much, but I have to say, the best part of this one was your little song at the end.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Hehe! 🎵🙈😁

@Amanda-yf7vj Год назад

I'm such a geek that I made my own combs out of sculpey and corsage pins! Lol i made them 3 pitch and of course they are very small but they work very well!! As for processing large amounts it's a no go but for small projects they are great. Too bad I have about 200 pounds of wool to go through!! Haha🤔

@cherylstraub5970 2 года назад

You are correct that the two variations of the fleece are different colors. That's in part why the vikings wove twills and broken twills for their cloth.

@AllTheHappySquirrels 2 года назад

Me, who knows nothing about sheep or yarn making, but who loves yarn: Tell me all the things!

@elaineclark7505 Год назад

Having raised Icelandic sheep here in Maine for more than 25 years I have learned that carefully washing fleeces before separating the tog and then makes the process much easier. Also adult fleeces often separate easier than lamb fleeces. After washing the coats can often be separated by hand if one chooses not to use combs or does not have access to them.

@jcwolfe1751 3 года назад

I really like your video on the combs. I bought the larger combs myself because I have Churro sheep which are double coated and they work excellent on this type of fleece. I only shear once a year so I have very long outer coats, and depending on the sheep, sometimes 12”. These are perfect for separating the coats.

@Lucy-vx2ls 3 года назад

This was so helpful! My family is from New Mexico (we have records as far back as the 17th century so far) so one of my goals with learning to spin is to knit socks for family members with Navaho churro wool, which I know is duel coated. This will be such valuable information when it comes time to invest in combs.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

That sounds like an amazing project for your family!

@platedlizard 9 месяцев назад

I wish I’d seen this video before I processed all my churro wool lol

@apassionforlace Год назад

Hi! Nice to meet you. It's the third video I'm watching, I'm hooked. I love your historical angle. I am a knitter and a spinner, not much of a weaver. My dad used to work for the Eise Eisinga Planetrium, here in Friesland, The Netherlands. Eise, born in 1744, built a planetarium, but his day job was wool comber. He had many people working for him. My dad, when he saw my Valkiery combs, told me that Eise WARMED the tines. That softened the lanolin and made combing easier. Not boiling hot, of course, but a bit warmer than hand warm water. Hope this helps you, Kindest regards.

@wisdumbteeth 2 года назад

i’m just getting into spinning and weaving and i’m a huge nerd about the viking age and old norse culture. i also happen to work on a farm where we have icelandic sheep! i’m so excited to spin and weave with the wool from my farm!

@kazsev Год назад

Valkyrie combs come in a wider width. You used 4 inch, 5 inch fines will give similar results to the other ones you used.

@user-fd3wl1pr7s 2 года назад

I believe you pull the tog away from the thel by hand - its very easy - and then you comb each set separately.

@hayleyhavener5977 2 года назад

ohhhh yes!! This is a bucket list project of mine, but a little later... very intrigued by how you get into the weaving.

@dominiquemichaud7945 3 года назад

The inner fleece has some purple shine to it! ^_^

@JillianEve 3 года назад

It is so pretty! 😍

@jenniferbrighty5120 3 года назад

Hi Evie, hope everyone is ok. As someone new yo the Spinning game, but knitter, crocheting & weaving, you take the yarn so much for granted. I'm finding all of the Sheep breeds & fleece in a whole new light. Its fascinating & amazing at the same time. Thankyou for bringing the History of the Spinners of Olde. Into our world. Take care & stay safe. Live to you all. Jen xxxx

@JillianEve 3 года назад

You are welcome and I completely agree! I started spinning after I knew how to knit and I had no idea how different the yarn could be just because of the wool breed! I used to think wool was wool! 😳 It's so fascinating to learn all the differences! 🐏🐑💖

@jenniferbrighty5120 3 года назад

@@JillianEve Hi Evie, thankyou so much for the Heart Reply ❤. The onky wool thT we knew was Wool was if the label said "Lambs wool or pure wool" !!!🐑🐑🐑 Learning abiut the different ways there are to prepare the fibres and the different ways tgere are to Spin is also fascinating. Hapoy Spinning. Take care & stay safe Love to you all Jen xxxx 💖💖

@catrionahenderson7759 Год назад

I am really enjoying this so much! I am getting SO inspired to do as you are doing this project! I am a re enactor, and have bought my cloth to hand stitch my clothes from the Viking era. You have taken this to a whole new level for me. Thankyou so much!

@D6861 Год назад

Hello, love your channel! Yes, I also comb fiber, but not a pro like you. (hahaha... I'm not a spinner yet - you might motivate me.) Valkarie fine combs are more for alpaca fiber, and ultra-fine combs are for use with angora. So using those heavy-duty curved tines on sheep seems more appropriate. Yes again, I have been warned that you can overcomb fiber. Spinners have commented the most stating that fiber can be overworked and fracture. Those heavy combs also make sense for double-coated animals.

@Sivaoan 3 года назад

I ordered my first pair of combs today, based on your recommendation. The more I watch of your easily understood videos, the more in becoming a fan! Thank you!

@jakrusen 10 месяцев назад

Love your videos. I’m new to working with fiber so all the info is wonderful. I was given bags of Icelandic fiber so thanks for being breed specific in this video.

@magneafrandsen Год назад

I just discovered spinning and your videos and I'm in love with both! I'm from Iceland and was rather surprised to learn that other sheep don't usually have double layered coats :) At the spinning course I just took we separated the tog and þel (=thel, can also mean skin) and used the paddle combs for þel and the combs for tog. Our teacher showed us very fine and strong sewing thread she made from tog, that's going to be my next projet :D

@HirschfeldHandknits 3 года назад

That was a fun video and I can't wait to watch the rest of the project!

@knitlovepray 3 года назад

Love this series! Seriously fascinating.

@jenniferrich5292 3 года назад

This is so much fun!!🥰

@zaimma 3 года назад

Love this Viking project, and your open minded exploration of combing. Great to see and hear your thought process!

@bernardmaclennan Год назад

I find, that lock flicking seperates the coats the best. While you hold the top coat tighly in your hand, the undercoats gets stuck in the brush. It's probably not as historically acurate though.

@jgordy4840 3 года назад

So glad you are doing this viking project. It's fascinating what you are discovering 😀

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'm glad you are enjoying it!

@lorrie6736 3 года назад

Thank you for the demo, I can't wait to try mine!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Happy combing!

@carlaschiesser9390 3 года назад

I just love your videos and I think you have such a beautiful smile you have such a cute soul and I really hope that you keep doing what you do! You are one of those people that I find no one can not like you! Much love and appreciation

@spicyfibersfarmstead83 3 года назад

Thank you soo much for this. I always learn something from your videos!❤ I'm especially loving the fiber prep techniques!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'm so glad! I'll be doing more prep for sure!

@sarahredmond4074 3 года назад

I always love your videos! It might just be time to tackle that Icelandic fleece I’ve had for a few years. I was thinking of separating it and maybe weaving an overshot pattern

@esmecat 3 года назад

first time i've seen someone using combs. it's fascinating. i love learning fiber magic.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

It does feel like magic! 🔮🐑🧶💖

@woolywonders5546 3 года назад

Amazing! Dual coated breed rocks! Thank you for the video!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

You are so welcome!

@jessicawright1656 3 года назад

How interesting about the 2 sets of combs and how differently they performed. I enjoy these historic videos as well as your technique videos the best. Thanks for sharing!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it! 💖🧶🐑

@tracyirwin103 3 года назад

This is going to be an exciting journey! Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge :-) It's going to be great seeing the difference between the tog and thel once it's spun up!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'm so excited to see the visual difference in light reflection! I'm holding back from sampling yet and just working to get everything combed first! Self discipline is hard! 🙈😅🧶💖

@freakygeak 3 года назад

you never know a tangent can be enlightening some times 😃

@SauceLadle 3 года назад

This was very useful for my Camel wool project I'm doing because they have 2 coats.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Camel is a fun spin! 🐫 💖🧶

@The_double_ewe 3 года назад

I wish I could click like on this video more than once :) I’m enjoying your historical videos it’s always amazing to me that at some point in history someone thought to take animal fluff and twist it up . I look forward to seeing the rest of this project

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Glad you enjoy it! 💜🧶

@robinsnestfarmicelandics 3 года назад

So happy to see you doing this project! I have been thinking about separating the thel and tog of my Icelandics 😁 I’ll be following along intently 😁Thank you for this!!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'd love to know how your project goes too! 💖🧶🐏

@astralura 3 года назад

May I just say you wings are PERFECT 👁️

@JillianEve 3 года назад

🥰 Thank you!

@nancyellencozzetti2463 3 года назад

Ty so informative

@ThimbleAndPlume 3 года назад

I am so excited about this project!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Yay! I have learned so much from your channel! You have helped inspire me to think maybe I can sew something with this when it's done, and not mess it up! 😊🐑🧶🧵🪡💖

@ThimbleAndPlume 3 года назад

@@JillianEve you can totally sew something! And if you need any help, feel free to hit me up!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

@@ThimbleAndPlume 💖💖💖💖💖💖

@CreatingwithWinglessAngel 3 года назад

I have seen greenland weave before. Its done on gravity looms with stones hanging down.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Yes! We might have to build one for this project!

@CreatingwithWinglessAngel 3 года назад

@@JillianEve yes🥰

@groovydiys 3 года назад

I'm about to be washing two icelandic fleeces I have and this was super helpful! Can't wait to watch the whole series!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Oh, perfect timing! Let me know if you discover any helpful tips too! What color are your fleeces? I love all the variety of natural colors!

@groovydiys 3 года назад

@@JillianEve Will do! One of them is grey and one is almost white! I haven't opened them up fully yet!

@annelong2928 3 года назад

I have many icelandic fleeces, each one different in texture and color variation. I got a set of 5-row english combs to prepare the fleece exactly as Jillian describes. I fine card the thel and spin for lovely yarn. Be very careful washing Icelandic because it felts with any agitation.

@benjamindejonge3624 Год назад

Great audio too

@tricours 3 года назад

I'm working with similar wool (local spælsau wool, and I happen to be in the Vestfold area of Norway where the Oseberg ship is from!), and I've also acquired two pairs of combs to experiment with. I have a rough pair that look similar to your bigger pair, they're from a small company in Sweden and they are pretty awesome, as well as a pair of Louët fine combs, which have one row of tines and are even smaller than your Valkyries. They're honestly quite flimsy. I've so far not combed my wool to separate it, I do that by hand before washing it by just pulling it apart. I've combed the undercoat wool with the Louët combs and then just pulled it free from the combs in a sliver, which works pretty well. I'm going to attack some non separated wool with my larger combs soon and see what happens - if it actually separates or not. Your wool looks WAY more uniform than our spælsau wool though, there's a pretty huge difference between the top hairs and the bottom wool with the spælsau, with the top hairs often being very shiny and very long. If you're interested in historical spinning, I'd recommend the videos from Nasjonalbiblioteket, they show traditional Norwegian spinning techniques. Here's one, using a distaff and some other things: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7WrhLpcx2kk.html

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Thank you for the resource, I will absolutely look them up. I would love to try spinning some spælsau wool, but I'm not sure how to get any in the US. I think my Icelandic looks more uniform because it is a lamb's fleece. When they get older they get a bit easier to distinguish between the tog and thel from my experience. Happy spinning! 🐑💜

@dawanariley4183 3 года назад

I have combs and was wondering how to do dual coated fleece Thank you 😊

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'm going to call this the "diz then pluck" method. It works well though!

@jillkaasteen6682 Месяц назад

Do you think this method would work for mountain goat wool? They have very long, coarse guard hairs with a wooly undercoat!

@wendymurray8594 3 года назад

Really interesting! Do you think it may be easier if the locks were all aligned i.e. butt to tip etc? Hmmm. I wonder if the ancients would be bothered to be quite as meticulous though... Fascinating stuff. And you're going to be a busy bee!! 🐝🐝🐝💖

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I really don't know...🤔 Were there reasons to align or not based on how they worked with the wool? I need a time machine to go ask someone! I'm surprised the haphazard approach worked so well honestly, and it was a reminder to me to try different approaches! 💖🧶

@Renee966 Год назад

A bit late, but is combing and carding the same thing? As in do they achieve the same result and fulfill the same purpose in the process? Your historical videos are great btw! :)

@JillianEve Год назад

They are different and I've gotten this question a lot lately so a video is in the works!

@kittylevee4662 3 года назад

Very interesting‼️ i also thought that the big combs would be harder to use🤔 Have you ever used the multi row combs⁉️ 💜💙💚💛🧡❤

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Yes! I have some English combs I will be using in another project. I think they are 4 or 5 rows? One clamps to the table when they get that big. I'm still surprised at the ease of using the bigger combs!

@micahmilne 3 года назад

Great stuff! I've had dual coats on my mind since the new edition of Ply Magazine arrived with so much info about how to work with them. Really looking forward to seeing how this weaves up with the separated coats! Do you know what type of loom you're planning to use?

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I know! That issue was perfect timing. I'll be getting out the Soay wool I have in my stash soon too!

@katlady1019 3 года назад

I have the same large Indigo Hound combs. I bought them at a fiber festival after being given a Cheviot fleece and knowing nothing about processing it. I actually brought some of the fleece with me and the seller (a well known shop but I’m not going to mention the name) recommended the Indigos. I’m happy to have them but I don’t think they were the right combs for the Cheviot! It was great to see how useful they are for the Icelandic. I’ve never heard anyone mention the Indigo Hound combs and don’t know if they are still being made. ( I’ve since added a pair of Valkyrie Extra Fine to my tool stash). I love combing!!!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Yeah, the Valkyrie extra fines would be my choice for that Cheviot! I think people get invested in one tool type and they make it do everything without considering if it is actually the right tool for the job. The Valkyries and Indigo Hounds both combed the fleece, but hands down one was more comfortable and efficient with the dual coat! 💖🐏🧶

@katlady1019 3 года назад

@@JillianEve Another cool thing about the Indigos and your project is that they are considered “Viking” style combs ☺️. So appropriate!!!

@user-lu2xd4ux9j Год назад

At time stamp 13 and forward. Where did you get those lovely curved combs thats you used after the Valkyrie’s?

@carolynalison4997 3 года назад

I will be interested in hearing if the larger combs are too rough as well. I have a bunch of Merino that I'd like to comb, but my combs are very large.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I would sample a small amount first, and check it for neps to see if the fibers are breaking. 💖

@helenedumoulin9092 3 года назад

Again thank you for the video! Where do you buy iceland wool?

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I would check My Local Wool, it's a website to search for small farms, you can also check Etsy, and there are some Facebook groups that sell fleeces. You can also do a general internet search for farms with Icelandic sheep and contact them directly. 🐏💖🧶

@bonniemiles7957 2 года назад

Dark fiber over dark background is hard to see, wish you had a lapcloth of lighter hue.

@Ravencall 3 года назад

I would like to invest in a big pair if Indigo hound combs because I have been wanting to get a Gotland fleece for some time. I have a pair of double row "fine" Valkyrie combs and love them, but after watching you comb I am wondering if heavy single row combs might work better on dual coat wool?

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I think the difference is that single row combs will blend the dual coat and double (2 pitch) wool combs will seperate the dual coat. I still have some Gotland to comb too. I think for it I'll be looking at my larger combs, but I haven't experimented with it just yet. 💖🧶

@woochles 3 года назад

There is a review of various valkyrie combs here: www.rhonna.net/reviews/valkyrie-wool-combs The review breaks down comb performance by breed, which can help people choose the right combs for their wool. Valkyrie also makes a viking comb that was not included in the review, but is similar to the indigo hound combs in this video.

@KiSaralise Год назад

I have a Question: so with Alpaca, would you recommend Indigo Hound or Valkyrie or Both? I have a BUNCH of Alpaca that needs to be processed that I was Fortunate enough to Receive as a Gift from a Customer/Knitwear Designer, so I want to get the Proper Tools to begin my Journey! ☝🏻🤣🙏🏻

@millieo7155 2 года назад

What is the name of the book? Is it in English?

@jamessteele8370 3 года назад

I'm knitting a 30" wide pants, but don't know the length yet

@JillianEve 3 года назад

🧶💖

@sarabartel4285 3 года назад

Are the second cuts good for felting or as a nubby add-in for art yarn? I've been promised a whole (luxury breed) fleece from a local farm and have been binging your fiber prep videos. I think I might need a set of combs!

@micahmilne 3 года назад

I always save mine for making tweed.

@sarabartel4285 3 года назад

@@micahmilne Thanks for the tip! Do you have to do anything to the fiber first? I've never done tweed before.

@micahmilne 3 года назад

@@sarabartel4285 I work with a lot of direct from farm wools, so I often end up needing to soak the extra tangled bits to make sure they release any trapped dirt. If they're loosely tangled as opposed to a real hard nep, it can be fun to felt them so that the resulting bits are nice and dense. I imagine you could use a drum carder, but I just use a blending board to suspend them in the main fiber base. I'm sure there's plenty of tutorials out there; I've learned a lot just from feeling out what seems right, so there may be easier ways than my strategies, though.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Sounds right to me!

@JillianEve 3 года назад

Experiment and see what effects you can get!

@goldensolitude 3 года назад

the English combs are 4 pitch so no, the fibers won't break when you comband they have stands for the so you don't have to hold two at a time. I also like to use a hackle.

@JillianEve 3 года назад

I'll be getting to those soon. I also have English combs and hackles to play with! ❤🧶

@benjamindejonge3624 Год назад

The large hair has been used to make sails for their famous boats