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Commodore 1541 drive hacked to work inside a PC!

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@zaanpenguin 6 месяцев назад

Very poetic to use an old ESCOM computer, considering they owned the Commodore brand at one point.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Yes, this might be the world's first ESCOM with MOS chips!

@lemagreengreen 6 месяцев назад

It's interesting that Escom machine has not yellowed at all, all of the plastics look pristine.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I was very lucky with this one. I got it in mint condition

@bikkiikun 6 месяцев назад

Fun fact: that LED-PCB with the black and yellow wires actually has indicators in Japanese saying: クロ (= kuro, meaning black) and キ (= ki, short for ki'iro, meaning yellow).

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

cool :)

@AlsGeekLab 6 месяцев назад

This is an absolutely epic video! Congratulations EPICtronics! 🎉

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Al. This was a really fun project :)

@AnthonyRBlacker 6 месяцев назад

Norton Commander was my favorite application for doing any file work. I believe I still have an original copy of that somewhere. I definitely keep it in my old pc repair kit, a small but very effective and convenient program.

@schmutz1g 6 месяцев назад

great project!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@KrocCamen 6 месяцев назад

In the Pentium era people would be using CCS64 to emulate C64 as it had the best performance and highest compatibility for the time. There’s a DOS version and a Windows version, but that didn’t arrive until the XP era. I had no problem reaching 100% speed on a P166 but a P60 would be an interesting test

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

I'll give it a try, thanks!

@orinokonx01 2 месяца назад

I can confirm, I used to use CCS64 back then!

@frugalprepper 6 месяцев назад

I love your channel. Thanks for all the great vids and hard work, merging older and newer technology. Your edits are perfect. You include what needs to be include and edit out redundant parts that are not important to keep the videos moving along and on topic.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thank you :)

@retronoby 6 месяцев назад

That looks very neat. I really like that the process is reversible and no parts were broken. 🙂

@QuantumParadox 6 месяцев назад

This is really cool. Good old hardware hacking. This is amazing to watch. Keep up the videos.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@50shadesofbeige88 6 месяцев назад

This video will do very well, I'm sure. Remember us little guys when you make it to 1 million subs. 😂 good work, as always.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

😅Thanks 50!

@harrydean9723 6 месяцев назад

@@Epictronics1been watching for about a year, great channel!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

@@harrydean9723 Thank you :)

@BigBadBench 6 месяцев назад

Wow, that’s a wild hack! I never would have thought that was possible. Nice work!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@tony359 6 месяцев назад

this is very cool! It'd be great to have a tall tower with all the available drives for retro gaming/computing! Thanks for the video. Now I'm going to see what the hack is to make the 32GB partition!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks. Apparently, there is a card that would allow for more than 2 floppies. Maybe I'll try it out someday

@morantaylor 6 месяцев назад

Another way to do it is load the d64 on a Pi1541 and use a disk copy utility to copy the "floppy" to physical disk.

@retrohaxblog 6 месяцев назад

Awesome idea and a video too ofc!!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@tspawn35 6 месяцев назад

It's interesting seeing you go through all the work to move a floppy drive internally. It looks good and is neat. I am just so lazy I use my 1571 and sd2iec via a c64 program to move .d64 files to real floppies on my c64.

@aagevaksdal 15 дней назад

My father´s first PC was an Ericsson with two large floppy drives, and no hard drive. A familiar sound! ;)

@g4z-kb7ct 6 месяцев назад

I assume this is just the x1541 hookup but internal? I did a 1541 to parallel hook up about 20 years ago but just plugged the drive into the external parallel port. But I only did it for fun. Connecting a 1541 to the parallel port of a PC works but is abysmally slow writing the disk. Funny how you just skipped the writing part hehe! It's quicker to use one of the various sdcard carts (i.e. Ultimate1541 or SD2IEC or Kung Fu Flash etc) and write a d64 on a real C64 using Dracopy.

@bitoxic 6 месяцев назад

Very neat project! 👍

@JenniferinIllinois 6 месяцев назад

A 1541 floppy in a PC. What kind of sorcery is this? 😁

@MrKrezol 6 месяцев назад

You should design a pcb for that drive controller

@coreykirkpatrick4392 6 месяцев назад

Already exists

@andrewlittleboy8532 6 месяцев назад

I should think that cap under the processor must get pretty cooked!

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

That's exactly what I thought too! If this board ever gives me any trouble, that's the first component I will check

@andrewlittleboy8532 6 месяцев назад

Dan Wood made a video where a pc can connect directly to a c64 and write disks to the C64 a while back.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

I made a video like that a few years ago. This is the evolution of that project :)

@stevethepocket 6 месяцев назад

I can't seem to find the video you're describing; what's the link?

@Retrocomputernerd 6 месяцев назад

This is sweet. I have been thinking about doing something similar but planned to use the USB to 1541 solution. This is really cool. Next step should be to have a 1581 under the pc floppy. I hope you get the emulator sorted out. Would be cool to run games from the 1541c inside the pc

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

That would be very cool!

@bikkiikun 6 месяцев назад

You could try and cut a thin piece of plastic to fit into the ISA slot and srew or hot glue it to the controller board.

@Ironclad17 6 месяцев назад

The legs on that led looked really long. I think you could have easily trimmed them and it would fit fine. A donor dinn connector would have made that patch cable a lot easier.

@pigpenpete 6 месяцев назад

the SID emulation in recent versions of Vice needs a surprisingly large amount of cpu horsepower - try disabling sound or choosing a different SID emulator in the options

@Ghozer 6 месяцев назад

nice.... I think i'd have just got a dual-colour LED, red and green, and set it up that way ;)

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Oh, that's actually clever. I may do that

@Ghozer 6 месяцев назад

@@Epictronics1 Nice :) - but double check the common, and make sure you get the correct one ;)

@f.k.b.16 6 месяцев назад

Respray the whole pc to save the drive color 😂

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

If it wasn't rare, I'd respray it to look like a C64 any day!

@goranmirnic9573 6 месяцев назад

Great job. I only miss links to the readings that You have done in order to connect commodore drive to an PC. MfG

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks. Here you go: sta.c64.org/xm1541.html

@sarreqteryx 6 месяцев назад

The jank is strong with this one...

@cmfrancis1 6 месяцев назад

Did this mod once but I left the C64 drive in its external case and used DIN connectors and a DB-25 to make an adapter cable. I don’t recall what software I used on the pc side but it did work.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

That's how I did it years ago too. This method was a lot more fun :)

@lm4278 6 месяцев назад

Clicked like before watching. Your stuff is that good. Lol

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Thanks :)

@Txm_Dxr_Bxss 6 месяцев назад

Great video. I have a fully working 1541-II drive that is missing half it's case with the other half heavily yellowed and cracked. I don't have a second set of cables to go with it. It seems like it's begging to be hacked into an old PC.

@tommyovesen 6 месяцев назад

I got stressed and anxious by this video

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

haha, why?

@tommyovesen 6 месяцев назад

I haven't seen the video finished yet. But connecting a 1541 to a PC makes me scared... :) I have a XUM1541though, but still. It's not normal to do that :) @@Epictronics1

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

@@tommyovesen haha, I don't do "normal" unfortunately :)

@e1woqf 6 месяцев назад

@@Epictronics1 That's why your channel is so much fun!

@e1woqf 6 месяцев назад

@@tommyovesen "normal" is boring! 😀

@breakitbreakit9765 6 месяцев назад

nice

@stevethepocket 6 месяцев назад

I clicked on this expecting it to be about just using the PC's drive bay as a space-saving novelty enclosure. This is so much wilder. How old is that program you used for the copying, and what kind of setup was it _originally_ meant for? Some kind of external LPT1-to-serial cable?

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Yes, SC is from the mid-90s but I think it was updated as late as 2010

@stevetheborg 6 месяцев назад

i have a little fan..

@RetroShare2 6 месяцев назад

You have to work with flux for better results.

@johnps1670 6 месяцев назад

Commodore rainbow cables.

@Ivo-- 6 месяцев назад

Is there a video on how this actually works on the software side? Do you need a special driver to talk to the controller over the LPT port? Is it a feature of star commander?

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

No, nothing else is needed. Just download SC and run it

@kittyztigerz 6 месяцев назад

i have alot of heatsink for socket 7 or 8 and i just got truck that way i can load stuff up on my truck ( my car engine spit in half blew it self up) i never think there was good way do floppy drive in 93 model mobo that is awesome learn something news

@Renville80 6 месяцев назад

Huh. Escom. I haven't seen that logo in AGES.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, they messed up and disappeared shortly after the acquisition of the Commodore brand.

@cbmeeks 6 месяцев назад

Don't copy that floppy! LOL

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Oh, I'll copy that floppy! ;)

@Okurka. 6 месяцев назад

I just use a $5 Arduino ProMicro to connect a 1541 to a PC.

@anone1243r 6 месяцев назад

Is this machine for sale? :)))

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Sorry, but no :)

@jonshouse1 6 месяцев назад

This seems horrible, isn't the Commodore drive so slow that almost any dev board could do an RS232 to IEE488 bridge?, that would seem a far nicer approach, in theory you could even then chain the external disk, C64 and PC together. I assume this all hangs of some obscure bit of software I don't understand. Still, interesting video even if I did grit my teeth.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

Interesting. There's definitely room for improvement. I was quite happy to get it all up and working, but I'll see if we can make it faster

@69uremum 6 месяцев назад

Why wouldn't you just trim the plastic from the drive faceplate instead of modifying the pcb that holds that ir led etc? Trimming a little plastic is way easier.

@Epictronics1 6 месяцев назад

I try to make all my hacks non-destructive and reversible. but you're right, that would have been easier