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Commodore Amiga 600 Green Screen Repair 

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@retro_noix
@retro_noix 3 месяца назад
Amiga is the new Atari! 😉👍
@user-Atamigaputer
@user-Atamigaputer 3 месяца назад
Lol Flash jazz swear at the cat. Seriously Jonathan, that was top notch troubleshooting and obviously a great deal of patience and persistence, well done
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much - that's really appreciated. Feel free to share the video among the Amiga community (I'm afraid deviations from Atari hardware on this channel don't seem to get much traction from the RU-vid algorithm).
@user-nd8zh3ir7v
@user-nd8zh3ir7v 3 месяца назад
Wow you make the surface mount stuff look easy, great job and video!
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I actually find SMD a lot less time-consuming, although I do need strong magnification these days. :)
@Mind-your-own-beeswax
@Mind-your-own-beeswax 3 месяца назад
You did a good job of it Jon. Since you repaired it I’ve upgraded the ram to 8 meg and the floppy drive seems to work just fine thankfully. Can’t find any key caps just yet but it may need a new keyboard.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
That's good news regarding the floppy drive. I suppose there's a limit to how many hidden issues a single system can actually have. :) I assume the 8MB is 'fast' RAM on a trap-door board.
@Mind-your-own-beeswax
@Mind-your-own-beeswax 3 месяца назад
@@flashjazzcatit is fast ram but not in the trapdoor. It piggybacks onto one of the chips. Also upgraded the rom from 2.0 to 3.2.
@MoparStephen
@MoparStephen 3 месяца назад
Nice diagnosis on this one.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Thanks!
@adameberbach
@adameberbach 3 месяца назад
Well spotted and smart fix. These are great little machines except that they are hard to equip for WHDLoad (accelerator + memory); the PLCC CPU makes it difficult to fit anything to the CPU direct and there is no CPU bus like the A1200 offers. The keyboard is difficult - I did a replacement keyboard project a couple of years ago (A600KB on github) and am working on A600KB2 currently with low-profile switches. An amibay user, steveed, has had sets of MX-stem keycaps in the correct A600 sizes made at Signature Plastics, I have a set here and it is perfect right down to the 8U space bar.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Thanks! Definitetly a nice little machine, but I didn't know enough about the Amiga platform to consider the shortcomings you mention. The owner was apparently intending to send a 1200 in for recapping at some later date; hopefully he does, since I was very much looking forward to getting my hands on it (I think I used a 1200 once in my life for five minutes about thirty years ago).
@Mind-your-own-beeswax
@Mind-your-own-beeswax 3 месяца назад
I’ve got OS3.2 on the 600 now with WHDLoad but it’s not without issues. I will get around to it at some point though and sort it out properly.
@firsteerr
@firsteerr 3 месяца назад
hold on a mega bite of RAM ??? why thats crazy talk !!! seriously i have dabbled around a few speccies and watching others doing the work helps me understand the problems and fixes like an engineering job its all about learning from others and not just book learning
@Chriva
@Chriva 3 месяца назад
The audio caps are hopeless to remove. Pretty much forced to remove the audio jacks and keyboard connector to reach them
@perinoid
@perinoid 3 месяца назад
This is how you're doing it. Exactly.
@ChuckyGang
@ChuckyGang 3 месяца назад
Thin nozzle remove the top part of the keyboard connector. kaptontape. problem solved. no removal needed of keyboard connector OR audiojacks
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 3 месяца назад
Wait, there are computers other than Atari? Say it ain’t so. 😂 That being said, I’d love an Amiga with a Video Toaster in it, the computer that moved me into MIS (what it was called then, now we say IT). What are you using for the overhead camera?
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
I'm using a pair of Logitech Brio 4K USB C webcams. Quite nice but possibly a bit long in the tooth now. I recently bought an arm-mounted magnifier with a ring-light and I occasionally shoot small stuff straight through the magnifier.
@perinoid
@perinoid 3 месяца назад
Recapping of an A600 that's ina "factory state" is an obvious move. So obvious, one can decide for it blindfolded, without looking at the motherboard. An A600 needs a pair of RAM chips to boot - with just one it has a half of its bus working. Watching the rest now. 😊
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Yes: I wasn't sure how the memory bus worked at the time and had read a forum post where someone claimed to have run such a machine with one good DRAM when troubleshooting, but I wasn't to know at the time if this was fiction. I'm not into pre-emtpive recapping unless there's good reason for it, but the owner was happy to pay for it and it clearly needed doing in this instance.
@perinoid
@perinoid 3 месяца назад
​@@flashjazzcat Just like an A1200 or CD32 -,, if not recapped yet, an A600 MUST be recapped or it will stop working. The faulty delay line was an effect here.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
@perinoid Right you are. Caps weren't the issue here, but I guess it's worth doing if it's a known problem with these machines.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
Turns out there was an issue with U17 (rear DRAM), and the system does in fact boot with only U16 present. See here: forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=71796.0
@waltciii3
@waltciii3 3 месяца назад
I think I will stick with fiddling with 8 bit machines. Anything with SMD components is too much for me and my eyes.
@flashjazzcat
@flashjazzcat 3 месяца назад
I actually prefer SMD to thru-hole since the workflow is about five times quicker, but unfortunately most of the stuff I'm sent is thru-hole. :)
@PG-gs5vb
@PG-gs5vb 3 месяца назад
After all, Amiga is the actual Atari 800 successor.
@gryzman
@gryzman 3 месяца назад
the failure of amiga 600, that lead to Amiga's demise
@tiannaumann
@tiannaumann 3 месяца назад
I think at that price point, it should have just been an AGA chipset but the entry-level model (sold at a small loss). The A1200 could have been an A1200HD by default and a price hike to reflect , and the A4000 as-is. OCS/ECS while still capable, but unfortunately was 6-8 years old by the time the A600 released.
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