I disagree it's a f☆☆☆ up by someone who just give a toss about the tradespeople following on. When another contractor f s one of my jobs up he gets 1 chance to put it right other wise I get another contractor in to put it right and pay him the money and counter charge the first contractor and add on 40% for messing me about.
it's true...sometimes. Or they have 30-40 houses to look at it one day. That was the case with me for 2 of the builders I worked for. I missed stuff all the time because I couldn't get to 30 houses in one day.
Great idea! I'm not sure why they don't do that. It's likely because it's a production builder and none of the trades shares any task to help one another. SMH
I agree. Plumbers are ALWAYS called in to do their rough-in and stub up before the concrete is poured. As an electrical contractor I would not be called because the general would not think to--but I would always check the plans to catch these items. This kitchen island stub up was probably the only electrical conduit buried in this house and the general probably did not think to catch it and call the electrical contractor. So this is the general contractor's fault.
@@50regor what you're saying is not true 100% of the time, especially in production home building. Depends on the builder's arrangements with the electrical contractor and the concrete contractor.
the plumbers misplace a drain during the groundwork and I had to move a drainpipe after the slab was poured. Big problem; I had a post tension slab poured. Very dangerous cutting through the concrete. Had to release tension on 4 or 5 cables on two sides of the slab before cutting. Fortunately the post tension crew hadn't cut and grouted the cables yet. Expensive mistake to rectify.
Thank you for backing me up! It is either they missed the conduit altogether or you have concrete poured down into your conduit. Either way you can’t run electrical to the island 😂
It is the builders project managers job to ensure all roughing is in place before the slab is poured. I also blame the electrical contractor for not installing the conduit in the ground before the slab is poured. He installs electrical conduit, not the concrete contractor.
@@Freedom4851Group As an electrician and general foreman for 41 years (High Rise Office building construction, not residential), my crew is solely responsible for conduits in the deck and proper location before the pour, not some other trade. Mistakes like that would cost the company a fortune and my unemployment.
I work construction and a superintendent with my company failed to run power to the island prior to the slab. They had the flooring down and cabinets trimmed out when it was finally caught by the city. We had to fix it. This and other problems like it are common and not the end of the world in the production building world.
The lead and the general did not do a walk thru with the plans with the concrete contractor before the pour a punch list should have been generated this is a sign of a failed general contractor business .
Well this particular home was a track-home builder. I don't disagree with your statement, but track homes pretty much have the same thing in every house. Some of the houses had it done, some didn't. As with any job, some crews are good and some are not.
Man, that's crazy. As the electrician I would be onsite when the foundation was being formed up to get the conduit into the foundation prior to pouring. IMHO that's the electrician's screw up. We'd never leave the PVC there and expect the concrete guys to make sure it was installed and fastened in place prior to pouring...
Why cut through the entire slab? Can't you go 2" down for example and trench out space for the conduit? I guess it depends on your final finished floor material and local code.
I don't think so, but possibly. I think doing that would make the depth too thin and would result in concrete cracking because the conduit is too close to the surface.
The conduit is underground when the electrician leaves, and both ends of the pipe are attached to something. Nobody accidentally pulls it out and lays it aside. The electrician forgot to install it.
Well, we were gonna stain the concrete. But, now we have a weird repair and spray paint all over the floor. Guess we'll just see if we can find a graffiti artist to finish the job.
I think it has less to do with competency and more to do with management. They know how to put the conduit in (competency), but it's not checked prior to pouring the slab (management)
@@Freedom4851Group So True, as a retired Chief Building Inspector from SoCal. I have seen plenty of mistakes in my 30 years. From small Homes being Built to Hospitals and everything in between. Nothing that couldn’t be fixed, fortunately. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your comments! This channel does not exist to bash anyone. We all have a job to do and most of the time we are all overworked and underpaid. It takes more than one imperfect human to build a house!
You sir have never been a superintendent if you make a statement like that. Unless you're running one job and are there 24/7, stuff happens that is outside of a superintendent's control, no matter how good they might be. I didn't make the video to bash supers or subs, just to create awareness around it for unknowing consumers.
@@Freedom4851Group been a heavy commercial / industrial superintendent for forty years, I guarantee you if a concrete sub pulled out an electricians pipe and tossed it to the side, they would be thrown off my project in a heartbeat. You sir are an obviously an incompetent superintendent, that’s why you’re an inspector. Most inspectors sucked at being a superintendent. Why else would you settle for a less paying job?
@@TheDieselndust doesn’t have to be a concrete guy‘s fault. I’ve seen it where the plans weren’t drawn properly because the selections were not properly put in. Commercial is a lot different than residential. I never had any fewer than 20 houses going at the same time in multiple communities. But I will say it again: this video was not made to bash anybody. It was made to create awareness for homebuyers.
Clearly you have never been a site manager for more than a handful of jobs. It is physically impossible to be on site at every moment for every job with as many jobs as the superintendents have on their plate. That conduit could be there one day and then the concrete guys move it out of the way “temporarily“ and it gets missed. There are a lot of hands in the pot. I certainly don’t blame the superintendents. I have been in their shoes.
As a contractor for 30+ years . I have to question what you are saying. Were donyou live that moisture get 8+ feet away from the outside wall? The yard would have to be done wrong and flows water towards the house. Be other wise is big ass LIE.
@@katkilr7685 I have a tough time deciphering what you’re saying. There is moisture under the slab which is the reason for the vapor barrier. Has nothing to do with water pitching towards the house. For you to be doing this 30 years, I’d certainly call into question your knowledge.
@@Freedom4851Group Moisture levels under a slab are not high. In most parts of America there is no moisture barrier under a slab. I have built houses in 11 States from start to finish. I have a degree in CAD & construction management (Architect) I have never had a moisture barrier other than on the exterior walls /roof. If the yard is slopped and you have rain gutters there is no moisture.
