A friend has a Troy-built push mower, with a Briggs and Stratton engine that wont start. Can we get it running for him. I'm suspecting the carburetor is the issue.
Great Video. One of the common issues with this carb' is the plastic choke touches the metal bracket (that holds the air filter) and hangs up in the open position. If you run a metal nail file down between the choke and the bracket you can shave just enough plastic off to fix it and you do not have to remove the carb'. This is super easy. And it fixes a NO START issue.
Robert Clark you are a gentleman and a scholar. Your suggestion did the trick for me. With about 4 hours invested, I had already changed spark plug, air filter, emptied gas tank, removed fuel line to inspect and then bit the bullet and searched on carburetor videos. Thanks E&R for an excellent video. It gave me enough info to decide that perhaps my relatively new mower's carburetor wasn't the issue or that at least today was not the day to disassemble mine. By God's grace I read a few comments and found Robert's here at the top. I also learned that you can cause the plastic choke to stay open by not being careful about how you replace the mower top lid. 🙂
This is the only video that went in depth and showed step by step how to remove and unclog that stupid cartridge and it fixed my mower. Much appreciated, like and a follow! Thank you sir
Thank you for the great video! I was just about to toss my lawnmower in the trash until I did this. This was a Father's Day gift from my boys. Ran out of gas, put in clean gas, and then it died. The only thing I would be careful with is the float metal rod, it falls off easily if you remove it. Thanks again!
Thank you for this video! My Toro Super Recycler was reving up and down and then intermittently would just quit. This video gave me the confidence to pull the carburetor apart and do the cleaning as you have shown. One thing I encountered was some resistance re-seating the carburetor which required a little force due to the plastic seal ring.
Thanks for posting this. I had the same issue. I removed the top cover, but did not remove the linkages to the carb. pulled the bottom cup off...bunch of debris came out with the gas. I then used my air compressor to clean the carb (at least blow it out). Reconnected, started right up. Problem solved.
Thanks a lot, today I was able to fix my mower (exact same problem) having never done any mechanic! And knowing about nothing in this field Thanks you very much sir. Best regards from France
Take the upper cover off and lift the tank out to rinse it out with clean gas. The carb and tank can come off together without fighting the short fuel hose. Dump the fuel in a jar. Inspect the tank screen. Send the carb fuel back into the tank to clear the screen, then remove tank cap and pour into a large mouth clear jar. Then the problem doesn't repeat often. Let it sit. If you have anything in the bottom of the jar, pour off and retain it. Use the upper part of the fuel in your pickup. Use fresh fuel in the small engine. Floral wire measures right for poking those jet holes. If you haven't yet bought torch tip cleaner. I was so glad to learn this instead of buying more and shipping Chinese junque. But that's where everything's coming from. A jet can fix some carbs. A metal needle valve with Viton tip, can fix others. A q-tip In a drill can clean the needle seat. Use fresh gas and don't leave today's gas sitting in the mower. Use it up. You can drain the bowl with an Allen. Then a short long container can catch it. These work well once a mechanic re-works them.
@@ranflee1 you did just exactly what I did on the last one I had to fix and found the same port blocked. Nice find and good diagnosing. I wish all those who replaced carbs don't throw them away. It's nice to have a cleaned go-to part.
Torch tip cleaner was my best friend when I got back from overseas service. My motorcycle had been taken out (I had no clue) and put up with gas to solidify in carbs. I used three diff sizes for all those jets in all four carbs.
Best Video on the interwebs about this issue. Like everyone else you saved me a bunch of time and headache. This was 100% my issue, cleaned it out with a tiny paperclip and boom fired right back up and cut with no issues.
Great video. I know how to remove the main jet now. Amazing how these plastic parts last as long as they do. And the trick posted about the choke butterfly was probably useful also I will have to look into that. TWO THUMBS UP my friend. Maranatha
Hey, I had my throttle linkage fall out while I was wrestling with the bottom pan and I've had to watch 10 videos before coming across yours so I could actually see how it all fit together. Thanks for knowing how to actually make a repair video while most have no phucking clue.
Man, this video saved me. It just happened to be the same model/type as my new mower. The carburetor was the same as mine, unlike the other videos that had the silver pan with the screw in the bottom (I dont know what my kind of carburetor is referred to as). Thanks a lot.
Cool clip. My mower was reving up and down. I pulled out the little white cartridge and noticed a dark patch. I used a needle and a can of compressed air with the (straw) attachment. It cleared the debris (dark patch),my mower now running as per normal, thank you.
Man, been shopping for a new mower for the past few days. Did everything except clean those jets out. Give it one final shot tomorrow after work. Thanks for the vid👍
@@brianlocal3 started right up. Still running rough with a new air filter, plug. Might be time to part ways after this season. Got 10 or so years out of her.
Had the same problem. I would disassemble the carburetor and reassemble. It would start and run for a minute or two then it died off . I said to heck with it , I ordered on from Amazon for 32 buck now it runs beautifully I fuel it up with premium gas and it runs great , mine is a Craftsman push mower . I’ve had it for two year now and still runs great . Thanks for the vid
Nice video. I have same exact mower and had same problem. Wouldn't start after sitting in shed all winter. I took off the carb just like you did and cleaned it out and sprayed it with cleaner and got it to start but it quickly shut off. Took it off again and this time yanked out that center port and sprayed it, cleaned it off, blew on it, put it back and she's good as new. Must be extremely common problem with this model. Take care.
before storing the lawnmower for the winter remove the gas by tipping the lawnmower over to it's side then turning the lawnmower on till it dies out by itself and store it when mowing season comes just put fresh gas this will help you not having starting issues in the beginning of the mowing season old gas or water in the gas will give you problems.
Thank you sir so much! This fixed my problem, started on the first pull. My partner and I haven't used the mower since I was stationed in Louisiana, and I was about to throw it away. Thank you!
Thanks for putting this up. This has to be the most unreliable lawnmower I've ever had. It's a good chance with in the next few weeks or next season you're going to have the same problem. It not starting.
Last I spoke to the owner ,it’s still running great. This video is over a year old. I do know of some people that have had reoccurring issues with these carbs though. Since this video I had purchased a Toro with the same carb. I haven’t had this issue, but I did have a starting problem. I have a video on it. Thank you for the input and hope you don’t have any more problems.
@@ranflee1 Your video was really informative. But I'm thinking about getting rid of my lawn mower and getting something else. After two years nothing but problems.
Thanks, its an honor to to be notice from Micks mowers . Watch your vids often. Trying to catch up on the industry. Had a part time shop over 35 yrs ago.
at around the 4:32 point there is a rubber o-ring the drops out from from the carb when you removed it and slid down behind the side discharge , if you pause at 4:33 you can see it under the plastic. probably should put that back in
I had plastic bits clogging up the main. Brand new craftsman. The float bowl was loaded with them. Prob broken up plastic cast. From the jet housing. Good vig
Yeah , there’s no pride in manufacturing these days. We need to bring back American manufacturing, but the price of cheap Chinese parts is hard to resist for most. I most admit I’m guilty at times.
There are two very common issues with this carb i've seen, the first is the jet needs opening up (as you sugest) the second is float pin wear, with the bottom off the carb, flip it over so it's upside down and check to see it the float is parallel with the carb body in the shut possition!! if it isn't just bin it and buy another because what it does is seep fuel into the cylinder bore and over time it dilutes the engine oil prematurely wearing the engine internals with out any real sign of an issue.
1. empty all tanks and cans at the end of season put it in your car to get rid of it 2. Use a good sealing can, keep the air out = no moisture. 3. Use berrymans or seafoam in the gas along with regular maintenance it'll fire up every year.
Umm taking the bolts out with a drill or ratchet if there going to strip there going to strip with either tool I understand not putting them back in without a power tool bit taking them out should not be a problem but great video I learned something
I’ve being a mechanic for many years. Have not stripped a single bolt this way. That being said if you use either, go easy cause yes you can strip them especially in plastic. Thanks for the comment.
What year is this model built in???? I'm finding allot of these mowers on the curb and the carb is clean as a whistle just full of gas almost like it over fills so then it put it back together and runs great.🤔
I really don’t know, it wasn’t that old though. I did it for a friend who allows me to hunt on his property. He did have the bowl of however that’s all he knew to do . This one was definitely clogged.
I have the same carb, when I took it apart my float was filled with gas on one side. I got a new carb to install as it was just as cheap as a rebuild kit however now the carb itself won’t fill with fuel. I installed and it just cranks and cranks and when I took carb back off the bowl was dry
Easiest to remove top cover with pull string first. Three bolts same size as black bolt on carb. Also, the fuel tank can slide up and out so you can dump old fuel, and will have plenty of room.
These OEM carbs are 40 bucks a pop.. if you’re having carb issues you can easily clean this carb. It’s easy to take off and the jet set is easy to clean.. but keep in mind once you’re having carb issues the likelihood of it happening again is 90 percent. Just spend the money and replace the damn thing.. replacing is easier than fixing 3 times.. and much less time consuming. Run non ethanol gas that has a year or more shelf life not the crap you get outta the normal Pump down the street
@@ranflee1 I’ve found in my career of small engines that these carbs are easier replaced than repaired due to the then simply being made of plastic. Once they start to have problems it’s more than likely going to continue to have problems in the future.. these carbs on Amazon are 25 bucks.. but I choose to go OEM due to reliability issues. I’ve found this carb and the carb on the twin cam 22 plus hp Briggs carbs are just easier replaced. Edit- stable or mechanic in a bottle are available pretty much everywhere if you cant get ethanol free. But Canned ethanol free gas is also available at Walmart… so
Its a very informative video not trying to be rude but every now and then you got away from your camera if it stationary remember you need to stay in view but I did learn something, I have the exact mower but there were 2 pinholes in my float 1 on each side and float was full of gas is that not right?
I appreciate the critique. Always trying to improve, and my video skills do need much improvement. There should not be any fuel in the float. Toss it and replace it. Thanks for the comment.
I just did my first one of these a couple of days ago. It’s extremely finicky to get the carb off. I ended up removing the top cover, pulling the carb back and removing the bracket that surrounds the carb. I was worried about bending the linkages when by twisting the carb too much. Either way it’s not easy to remove the carb with this design. Cheers
Bruh you can take that carb off with 2 8mm screws and removing the fuel line… take the choke link off first bend forward and pull it out.. then turn sideways and take off the inside linkage.: takes literally 30’seconds with a quarter inch impact… you get good at it like me When you do it for years
I must be doing something wrong. I took the plastic carb apart, clean it with cleaner and blew on it. Even used the compressor. Put it back together and still want crank.
Have you checked spark. Also make sure the choke isn’t stuck open. I just did a video on my toro with the same carb. It took many pulls to start it. It’s a fairly new mower. TORO PERSONAL PACE STARTING ISSUES ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zOYYJQ8xDoM.html
@@ranflee1 our personal mower is a troybilt with B&S plastic carb with primer bulb and starts up on first pull. The toro I'm working on has the plastic carb but auto choke and even when that chole is close it take 4 or 5 good hard pulls to start it then runs rough. I thinks theres something else wrong but I haven't had that much experience with these new plastic carburetors
Yes , that’s why I said most. The one in this video and others I’ve seen starts first pull. However my new toro also takes 4 pulls ,but runs good once started. My old toro with primer 1st pull. I haven’t figured out why, but haven’t really had time to look into it yet.
Maybe this will help. But you said your choke is closed so I don’t know . TORO PERSONAL PACE STARTING ISSUES ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zOYYJQ8xDoM.html
Urghhh i took out the carborator cleaned it put it back together then gas started leaking out of carborator. So I opened it up and looked carborator and saw a tiny piece under the floater that wasnt in place. So I put this tiny little pencil ✏ looking piece back on floater and then closed it back up and attempted to start. It did not. And I also noticed a tiny bit of smoke coming from silver box towards the front
The 🖊 looking thing is the float needle. Make sure the wire is on the float correctly. The wire needs to go over the tab towards the inside of the float .
I’m sorry, I was thinking of the older style carbs. This one does not have a wire on the needle. Make sure it is in the slot on the float and the float is not just sitting on the needle. But honestly I’m not sure that’s possible. Did you hit anything before this problem? If so you may have sheared the flywheel key. I asked because you mentioned the smoke. It might be indicating a timing issue.
the problem with this mover and other with the same Carb, after it sits for more than a Week it gums up, you can clean out carb, but it will look clean inside , i have taken my carb off like 15 times ,,,lol Literally 15+ times get annoying after awhile , lol last time i did this i Broke the Governor holder on the Carb, after working my Magic and a piece of Bailing Wire i made a new 1 , lol
As far as I know the owner is still using it with no issues. I would suggest if possible use ethanol free gas. Unfortunately where I live , it is a20 mile drive to get it. Even further for my friend who owns the mower.
If you use ethanol gas yes. But using non ethanol canned 94 octane with fuel treatment can sit in a carb for 2 years and not get stale or watery.. just use good shit
@@johnrion3232 they all run on 89 octane or you burn the the valves moron really just like a car the computers are set for 89 octane gas I worked in parts and on lawn and garden equipment and cars and trucks and snow plows and snow equipment for 30 years sheesh...
Thanks for the input. I would like to say that I have repair many types of carbs (from chainsaws to motorcycles and automotive) and there are some that’s this would not be my first course of action. It would be the last resort if soaking and compressed air and carb cleaner didn’t work. In this case the insert is $15-$20 . If it didn’t work , no big loss. That being said ,my buddies mower starts first pull and runs great to this day. At $0 I call that a win.
@@ranflee1 Wasn't meaning to criticise in any way and yes the mower did sound ok at the end of your video. I was just saying that I was always taught that it was a no no!
No worries. Wasn’t taken in a negative way. I appreciate anybody’s input. I also have heard that. However I have found through experience that there are many way to accomplish a task. Many tech will use a very small drill bit. I would have too but I don’t have them. This welding tip cleaner works well for this.
That’s correct. That being said I was aware of this type carb and and it’s issues. I have experience with many style carbs from automotive to small engine, This being much simpler than most carbs ,I was confident I could show how to fix it. Confession: At the beginning of vid I wasn’t sure if the insert could be cleaned or if I was going to have to replace it.
Please try and keep the camera still. Mount it on a stand and not the same one that you put the parts onto as it jumps every time. Before presenting a first time dismantling process, it may be a good idea to have a practice run.
How about you try to figure out the problem yourself if you dont like the video. The man took the time to make this when he didnt have to. He's done us a favor and all youve done is b*** and moan
With out seeing it in person it’s hard for me to give you any direction. But just something you might want to check. Make sure seal between carb and block is in place and not leaking. It should start in one or two pulls.
@@ranflee1 everything is fine haha, will try a new shot today..., funny how these new engines and parts its like they all are made in china hahah, last lawnmower that i had, it was old like 10years or more, and it was great, never had any problems
I think it's a poor design. I shouldn't have to clean this carburetor twice to mow my damn yard. It always works to mow a little more then have to clean it again. I've cleaned my tank, the hose, etc. Still clogging up so easily.
Have to agree , not a great design. Things aren’t made well these days. Are you using ethanol free gas. I do but I have to drive quite a distance to get it.
