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Common Watch Case Materials and Finishes Explained - Watch and Learn #8 

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@chr1s60
@chr1s60 7 лет назад
This really is a fantastic series you are putting together! Great for watch enthusiasts of all levels. Keep up the great work!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you for taking the time!
@Balthasar812
@Balthasar812 7 лет назад
So true! I recently got into watches and the series helped answer a ton of questions I had. :)
@ShaneLindie
@ShaneLindie 3 года назад
Fantastic! I was glued to the video until the very end!
@MadAzn53
@MadAzn53 7 лет назад
Love this series, and learning quite a bit. Honestly I didn't know the difference between the finishes and PVD vs DLC.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Great, thank you!
@marcn8750
@marcn8750 Год назад
@@islandwatch many brands use 904 steel. GP Laurrato chronographs all use 904 steel for example. It is not harder to polish at all. It is harder to machine. It does not buff to a higher polish finish either. It is simply less corrosive as you state. Sounds to me they there is a lot of conjecture in your video which will only serve to mislead and confuse people. Please research further to validate.
@todorelojconfernando
@todorelojconfernando 7 лет назад
I vary rarely coment on videos but in this case I must, I have been watching your channel and I'm very impressed your comprehension of the technical side of watches is very impressive, great channel and I have been recommending it to my watch friends although you don't talk Vintage you have made me learn a lot about newer watches.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you for doing that! I don't talk vintage at all, since I really don't know it. My background is in what I sell, but moreover, it is in engineering and the application of science in a watch.
@thebudkellyfiles
@thebudkellyfiles 6 лет назад
Thanks. This made me see a lot more when I look at watch finishes.
@washingtonfootballfanwgil8392
@washingtonfootballfanwgil8392 7 лет назад
I learned a lot. Sometimes I am unaware I've learned from the tutorials until much later. Thanks Mark.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
The best kind of learning; it sneaks up on you :)
@kestertroy
@kestertroy 7 лет назад
Very informative indeed. You said what you know and you admit what you don't know. I love the transparency.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you for watching.
@LaTigerGenesis
@LaTigerGenesis 7 лет назад
I came across one of your videos today having only been familiar with watches in a fashion-sense. I've never become so interested in a subject so quickly because of your knowledge and delivery. Thanks!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks so much. Welcome aboard!
@akash_goel
@akash_goel 5 месяцев назад
Extremely informative, thanks!
@royroblox
@royroblox 4 года назад
Great video Mark! There’s a lot of different sources and mis-information on various forums, so it’s wonderful to see you dive into a lot of the details.
@carloslazo6594
@carloslazo6594 7 лет назад
An example of blasted and polished is the SEIKO 5 SNZG15(black fabric strap) the side of the case in between the lugs have been polished. Barely noticeable but it's there. My guess is the reason is not for looks specifically but rather for avoiding dirt and other debris to lodge there. I really like the watch and learn series!!! perhaps, could be a good idea to make a video related to dials, dial materials, functions, lume types, etc. cheers!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
thank you!
@SayG0NE
@SayG0NE 7 лет назад
Thank you for teaching!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you for watching and learning!
@markpercival2619
@markpercival2619 7 лет назад
Clearest explanation ever! Thanks.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Great, thank you!
@timemachineeddie1146
@timemachineeddie1146 7 лет назад
I too love the series.Can't wait to see more. What an excellent video Mark.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you. Coming into busy season, will try to keep up with it.
@EmceeChoo
@EmceeChoo 7 лет назад
keep up the good work, even as a minor watch enthusiast, I'm still learning new tidbits and facts about the watch industry / physical build everytime i watch your video!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@Andrew-Locksley691
@Andrew-Locksley691 Год назад
Great Vid I've seen you on TGV very knowledgeable If I'm correct you're a engineer. This takes watch collection as a hobby to a all new level!!I find every nook and cranny of every watch absolutely fascinating!,Now armed with this new knowledge of the basic metallurgy of watch cases I. Fascinated beyond belief!!,Again thank you for passing on the priceless knowledge!!!,ALL my best Boston USA..
@darrensmith6999
@darrensmith6999 6 лет назад
A most enjoyable and informative video thank you Mark.
@TheEnvelopeOZ
@TheEnvelopeOZ 2 года назад
Thank you for your service.
@roygardiner2229
@roygardiner2229 6 лет назад
Thank you for another very good video. I have a couple of questions: - On cheaper watches the description "gold tone" is often used. Clearly it is intended to imply that the "golden" appearance is not real gold. However, the "gold tone" Brooks Brothers branded watch I bought at a thrift store look....well, great! What IS "gold tone" material? Is it a plating, over stainless steel? - Can you recommend a good polishing compound for stainless steel? I know you used the term "jewellers rouge": is there a brand that is generally highly regarded? I assume that the silver polish that I have for my silver items is not suitable for stainless steel..
@Malcolm1959
@Malcolm1959 7 лет назад
Informative as ever Marc. Looking forward to #9 in the series.....
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks. Me too : )
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 5 лет назад
Brushed looks really nice! Don’t really care for the bead blast. Interesting that PVD takes on the property of the surface below! Great video!
@Davitamon76
@Davitamon76 7 лет назад
Again, a really nice episode! I like that it's stating facts instead of simply opinions. Which isn't a bad thing, but these kind of video's make me, as a customer, more knowledgeable and better informed so I can form my own opinions better. And also it makes me appreciate the product more. (if it's a well made piece that is....) Keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to the next episode. Cheers
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks! I sort of have a vested interest, so you won't here many personal opinions other than the basics. I like what I like, you like what you like.
@k9usa149
@k9usa149 7 лет назад
Another informative video, thank you. Perhaps in the future you could also include in another video titanium watch cases? Thanks Mark.
@Bilal.irfanb
@Bilal.irfanb 5 лет назад
What are your thoughts on Alloy watch cases such as made by Mini Focus?
@MYA.1982
@MYA.1982 7 лет назад
You're doing a great job. thank you
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
I appreciate it!
@AlojzyZyrokompas
@AlojzyZyrokompas 6 лет назад
Sitting through You material, one by one. Good job, thanx!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 лет назад
Thanks! Enjoy it!
@wasilqayyum
@wasilqayyum 4 года назад
Great explanation!
@Ticktockwock1
@Ticktockwock1 7 лет назад
Love to see a video on titanium watches.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Yes, planned!
@shmutube
@shmutube 5 лет назад
I know this is an "older" video - but I'm wondering if it is possible to use an automotive detailing ceramic coat product to further protect the watch surfaces. I have heard of many people using it for such things as protecting watches, sunglasses, even cheap safety goggles. It seems to notably reduce wear and tear. Thoughts?
@Mercuricmike
@Mercuricmike Год назад
Thaaanks! Helped me a ton with this info!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch Год назад
You’re welcome!!
@cyclepath78
@cyclepath78 7 лет назад
I'd love to watch a video on the various components that make up an automatic movement and what their function is like springs, escapements, balances, rotor, and jewels. Also, do you think Orient will ever produce a mid size Bambino, 36-38mm, with either an 18 or 20mm lug width? They seem to listen to their customers and make accommodations as in their USA rays and makos. Just a thought. Thanks!
@TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces
@TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces 7 лет назад
I agree. Not many videos out there breaking down the parts of a movement. That would be awesome Mark. Cheers:)
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Hello! Have you checkout out the other watch and learns? There's one ( I think #3 or #4 where I talk all about jewels, take out a balance, show you a lever escapement, etc. . . As far as Orient, I doubt it. They finally released a V4 bambino, and they went UP in size, not down!
@Michaelzz1
@Michaelzz1 7 лет назад
TimeToGo Travel And Timepieces ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G1XBb7kJJWg.html
@jorgedaniel9656
@jorgedaniel9656 7 лет назад
It would be awesome if you did a video on watch straps, their differences, and their history. Because I was looking into that the other day, and it's actually quite interesting. I'm gonna buy a shark mesh for my diver.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you. I will note that down.
@JimmiCrackdKorn
@JimmiCrackdKorn 4 года назад
Informative as usual I enjoy the technical side of time pieces,as well as their beauty.🍻
@gustavobakit9857
@gustavobakit9857 2 года назад
My friend your video has been very useful for me. I wanted to know from your experience, which finish was more reliable toward scratches? Furthermore, IDL if you have any Titanium Grade 5 watch, if you do, which material you find it more reliable toward scratches? Thank you very much.
@Biblicalgiants
@Biblicalgiants 5 лет назад
Hey Mark. I have a vintage Omega date watch in 10k gold fill. But the very inner corner portions of the lugs have wear so bad that I can see holes in the lugs themselves with a magnifying glass. I can actually see where the inside of the lugs are hollow and have some green corrosion of some kind inside the lugs. Does this make sense? Thanks man.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 3 года назад
Brushed or polished is the way to go. Easy to repair when damaged. I have polished 20 year old watches to like new condition.
@ilyaibragimov6255
@ilyaibragimov6255 7 лет назад
Hey Marc, another great video. Off topic, but I have noticed that some movements the rotor moves easier when the watch is moved around. Why is this the case?
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
One case could be uni vs bi-directional winding. In other cases, it is simply the gear reduction is less.
@ilyaibragimov6255
@ilyaibragimov6255 7 лет назад
Long Island Watch If a watch uni-directional winding. Does having the rotor wind the opposite way harm the watch? Sorry if the question is stupid.
@CompetentSalesUSA
@CompetentSalesUSA 5 лет назад
Thank you for the lessons
@commandZee
@commandZee 7 лет назад
Nice! How about a part 2 covering various golds, gold plating, titanium, platinum, etc.?
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Yes, thought about that and jotted it down.
@maikelelricsengkey9988
@maikelelricsengkey9988 5 лет назад
I have one watch that the case made of TUNGSTEN STEEL. What is that? Is that better than stainless steel?
@romybuenaventura3133
@romybuenaventura3133 5 лет назад
tungsten is a form of carbide that is highly scratch resistant and never lose it's luster for years of used
@MightyMouseESP
@MightyMouseESP 7 лет назад
Great series!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks, enjoy!
@troynasello2085
@troynasello2085 5 лет назад
What about ion plating?
@ivanbradatiq
@ivanbradatiq 7 лет назад
excellent video series I really enjoy the content and hope to see more and more of it I really hope that the channel grows and you get the following you deserve
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you for that! I'm trying to keep it interesting.
@TjPhysicist
@TjPhysicist 4 года назад
great video, on a topic i've wanted to know more about for a while. sidebar: i always thought more cookware was magnetic than not, esp. due to the rise of high end induction cooktops that require magnetic materials and high end cookware often being stainless steel.
@wiznat10
@wiznat10 7 лет назад
A Watch and Learn about different movements and different automatic and mechanical watches from beginner or entry level to more advanced and expensive would fun to watch.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Got it, thank you! I am planning a basic movements one (functionality).
@jfdomega7938
@jfdomega7938 7 лет назад
another excellent well informed video!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks
@Lee_K_5555
@Lee_K_5555 7 лет назад
Fantastic as always, Mark. I'm interested in what Seiko's Diashield finish is and how it adds to scratch resistance.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
So am I, as I've seen watches with "diashield" all scratched to hell. I'm sure its not a tegimenting process like Sinn.
@fkeopfkeop
@fkeopfkeop 7 лет назад
Can you make a video showing the different textures of tegmented steel, diashield, duratech TIC, DLC, duratect MRK, ice hardened steel and duratect alpha?
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
I will try my best; getting my hands on those materials isn't easy/
@simranjeetsingh4351
@simranjeetsingh4351 5 лет назад
loved the video. does orient you showed in the video has PVD bezel or is it something else?
@godschild5587
@godschild5587 4 года назад
thanks a lot, it was helpful video.
@joexg50
@joexg50 7 лет назад
Very interesting, enjoyed listening
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Great, thanks you for watching.
@johnmuldoon3872
@johnmuldoon3872 3 года назад
Can you go from a bead blast to a polish?
@analmoose6661
@analmoose6661 6 лет назад
I’ve learned a lot from long island Marc I change my own bands etc good channel I also bought some beautiful watches from him I love vintage retro style and I got some good deals
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 лет назад
Awesome, glad you learned something.
@devanshusharma7118
@devanshusharma7118 7 месяцев назад
Does metal bracelet looks good on a bead blasted case?
@sirrichardpump-a-loaf6894
@sirrichardpump-a-loaf6894 7 лет назад
Love these videos, great stuff man.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Great, enjoy!
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 7 лет назад
Wait, so what exactly is DLC, and how is it done? You mentioned it only in passing.
@sbeckett91
@sbeckett91 7 лет назад
mountainhobo DLC is "Diamond-like Carbon," it's a (usually black) layer of carbon that is very hard and can be applied to the outside of the watch. DLC is a material, whereas PVD is a process that can be used to apply it. I.e. DLC is often applied by sticking the watch case in a vacuum-sealed oven and pumping in carbon-containing gas that deposits DLC on the watch.
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 7 лет назад
Shawn Byron Beckett Thanks, Shawn. Yes, I have read up on it since Marc mentioned it. It seems also that the quality of the case material matters when applying DLC. Some cases appear scratch proof, while others still scratch due to the softness of the base material. Interesting technology.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
mountainhobo You pretty much found it out yourself. Your hardening processes are DLC, whereas PVD is not. DLC watches 'generally' won't scratch, and as Shawn mentioned, DLC is a materal whereas PVD is not. You can PVD gold (well, not gold, but colors like gold), silver, blue, black, red, etc. . . DLC is always BLACK.
@eslamalnagar6273
@eslamalnagar6273 7 лет назад
Hi Mark, I love these videos you are putting out. Do you mind making a video about the new Citizen automatics that you have on your website? Thanks.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Sure, can do.
@spunz83ify
@spunz83ify 5 лет назад
Hey marc, i am really in love with the Glycine Combat sub Golden Eye. How strong and durable are the pvd on on that watch?
@danmax7456
@danmax7456 5 лет назад
I would like my Invicta gold colored model number 22132 color changed to the very last black colored watch you showed in this video. that dead black P.V.D. Could you please leave a comment how, were, and approximately what's the cost, and can it be done on this style watch?
@Mark-sd7fc
@Mark-sd7fc 7 лет назад
Bead blasts than Pvd coated , polished then Pvd coated or brushed and then Pvd coated, witch one do you think is most durable ? I have several Pvd coated watches and the only places it has worn off is between the bracelet links, so far that is
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
It's a loaded question, as it depends on the finish quality. Assuming all have the same thickness, they will all be equally durable. I would say satin would 'hide' the most abuse though.
@firas5649
@firas5649 7 лет назад
excellent video.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thank you, appreciate it.
@dvamateur
@dvamateur 7 лет назад
I dropped my Seiko Sportura chronograph on an Apple MacBook. No scratch on the watch, a dent on the MacBook. I always bring it up on Seiko forums and get thumbs up from Seiko themselves. :) Yo! Thumbs up from me, too.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
LOL, thanks!
@ryanjenkins6899
@ryanjenkins6899 7 лет назад
Probay a stupid question but are higher end watches with the same material capable of being more scratch resistant
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Not a stupid question; they can be finished with hardening processes that make them more scratch resistant.
@hendlers7071
@hendlers7071 7 лет назад
Thank you very much for your informativ vid,'s
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
thanks for watching.
@Raushandefrost
@Raushandefrost 2 года назад
how about seiko Diashield?
@alone66666
@alone66666 7 лет назад
That Tauchmeister looks like a tank!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
It is! Lead weight; eh,steel weight!
@apax2901
@apax2901 5 лет назад
Went from Brushed to Polished on my Seiko 5s Imo looks much better 👀
@sanakpattanaik8505
@sanakpattanaik8505 7 лет назад
Do seiko 5 have 316l stainless steel
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Yes.
@bulkhungry
@bulkhungry 3 года назад
You know it's a genuine Junkers watch , when you hear a siren blaring till it hits the floor after dropping it .
@sonyatmaja5392
@sonyatmaja5392 3 года назад
i think brushed finish is cooler
@RameezRazaRiaz99
@RameezRazaRiaz99 7 лет назад
Ho to tell stainless steel from chrome plated?
@bulkhungry
@bulkhungry 3 года назад
A hammer .
@ForbinColossus
@ForbinColossus 7 лет назад
@13:45 PVD - I understand you to mean the PVD coating is the case metal vaporized and deposited onto the case where it hardens and re-solidifies. Another watch youtuber - federico talks watches - claims PVD is a plastic coating. Can you confirm which it is? Link to Federico's claim: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1GusPQvaXuA.html thank you for making these very articulate videos, Mark!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Thanks for the question. Just watched it. I think if you asked him if he really means "plastic", he would tell you that he didn't mean it in the cheap, injection molded, sense. He means its a coating, that''s not perfectly bonded to the case, which is correct. That is why your better PVD coatings are much thicker than your lower grade ones. So, if its very thick, and you get a light surface scratch in it, the base material will not show through.
@KCerros123
@KCerros123 6 лет назад
Oh shit, I just watched the whole seiko 5 advertisement video, and forgot about the video I initially wanted to watch.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 6 лет назад
Hahaha
@RoelfvanderMerwe
@RoelfvanderMerwe 7 лет назад
Yaaaaaay. I love these!
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
Great, enjoy!
@ewcm1878
@ewcm1878 4 года назад
Thats why it's called resistant not proof. 😂
@dagsabot5589
@dagsabot5589 6 лет назад
StainLESS not StainFREE steel.
@trubadyr99
@trubadyr99 6 лет назад
PVD? This is outdated really. DLC is better. Watchmakers need to turn to premium gunmakers already (Sig for instance) to learn how to do a much better coating of their watches.
@alexanderholding1952
@alexanderholding1952 7 лет назад
Unfortunately you are not as photogenic as TGV, so I suggest you put more camera time on the watches instead of yer face. Great series otherwise.
@islandwatch
@islandwatch 7 лет назад
LOL! Honestly is great, thank you for watching.
@alexanderholding1952
@alexanderholding1952 7 лет назад
I am glad that you apparently took no offence; I don't think I am as photogenic as TGV either. :)
@Ryotsu2112
@Ryotsu2112 7 лет назад
Alexander Holding Use your filter. You don't have to say everything that leaps to mind. It's not like he's hideous.
@alexanderholding1952
@alexanderholding1952 7 лет назад
True, I don't have to say everything that leaps to mind, just like you don't have to reply to comments that do not concern you, eh?
@Ryotsu2112
@Ryotsu2112 7 лет назад
Alexander Holding It concerns me because you posted it publicly, not as a private message. You put it out here, therefore I have a right to comment. Treat people on the internet as you would if you were face to face with them in public. I'm done commenting on this.
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