[Compared] EVERY Jabra True Wireless Earbuds!

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Jabra’s Elite series of true wireless earbuds can be… a LOT. So let’s go through every true wireless earbud from Jabra - with pros and cons - and see if we can make a choice!
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00:00 Goedendag and Introduction
00:16 GEN 1 - ELITE 65T, ACTIVE 65T
02:27 GEN 2 - ELITE (ACTIVE) 75T, 85T
04:03 GEN 3 - ELITE 2, 3, 4 ACTIVE, 7 ACTIVE, 7 PRO
06:39 App and Updates
07:15 Build and Comfort
08:01 Microphone Quality
08:20 Microphone Samples - Quiet
09:41 Microphone Samples - Noisy
11:14 Microphone Samples - Windy
13:30 Microphone Quality - Conclusion
13:57 Connectivity and dual-device
14:54 ANC and Transparency
15:50 Quality Control
16:29 Sustainability and the Environment
17:06 Which Jabra True Wireless Earbuds Should I Buy?

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@Qdub34 2 года назад

Thank you for doing this video. I love the jabras and my 75t just went through the wash. I was so confused looking at the new generation naming convention. This helped a lot.

@colemaneuclid 2 года назад

The popsicle, icicle, test... joke got you a like and subscribe from me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Lord_Vadr Год назад

It was really that simple?

@gaviolakuji Год назад

I was eating when he said it also 😂😂😂

@affinitystablepeanuts 2 года назад

Thanks for the video! This is the best comparison of the whole line I've seen so far. Makes it easy to decide on the 2-3-4-7.

@DHRME 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@AS-xb2cg 2 года назад

Hello Rohan and Kevin, just found your channel a few weeks ago while I was in the market for a midrange wireless buds (eventually went with lypertek z5) and I’m mighty impressed with the work you guys put in. Great work!! I live in the Netherlands as well so it’s a nice to see some quality videos come out from here :)

@DHRME 2 года назад

Ohh yeh 🇳🇱 Appreciate it Anish 😃 enjoy the Z5!

@bearsjourney Год назад

Thamk you for a very comprehensive review. Definitely helped me which one to choose

@yogihood15 Год назад

Thanks for the vid, just ordered some remanufactured 7 pros to replace the remanufactured 65t actives I’ve had for years. I love the fit of these buds so I hope this next pair lasts just as long.

@redevilshain 2 года назад

I got the 65T back in 2018, the sound was excellent but the battery sucks, frequent connection drop and right earbuds always have sound issues. Luckily the service center here are helpful and eventually replace me with a new set.

@kingofvoices1 Год назад

Never seen a more in depth and perfect one stop place to get a review on a product. Wish you did reviews for everything on earth. Savr me time. Love it. Great work!

@DHRME Год назад

Haha cheers Aaron!!

@superanup Год назад

Great vid guys , helps demystify the Jabra line-up

@BELGRANOization 2 года назад

Pop, Pop, Popsicle, Ice, Ice Icesicle, Test, Test, TESTICLE... I think that's the right sequence... Great review. Thx!

@ShiftyShoes 2 года назад

Thanks for the review! I was looking for a sports earbuds since I am scared on using my Sony WF-1000XM3 😅

@hazardsoftech 2 года назад

I'm not in the market for wireless buds anymore but I keep watching your channel because it is so entertaining.

@shamans123 2 года назад

Great and thorough review! Perfect video for the prime day deals going on :)

@DHRME 2 года назад

Cheers! 🤑

@AM-vk3qi 9 месяцев назад

What a great review!! Informative and love the humour 👌😂

@Zera0101 Год назад

my 75t is being used every single day for the last 3 years, and it never let me down. It's impressive!!! I wanna try 7 pro

@JamesSmith-qs4hx Год назад

Stick with your 75t my friend.... I have both.

@Zera0101 Год назад

@James Smith Good call James. The only thing I don't like is left side doesn't work by itself.

@creepythecritter 10 месяцев назад

I have them as well. Use them everyday to work. Only complaint is the battery life

@bernaurdjover6811 7 месяцев назад

where did you buy your 75t? can you send me the link.

@Zoduk Год назад

Amazing review!!!

@journeyman6752 7 месяцев назад

Excellent honest review!

@dabloounofficial6087 2 года назад

I see that elite 2 is missed all the time. I was here for that 😵‍💫

@myleonisd 2 года назад

Love the mic tests! But could you start write the model aswelle as "mic - quiet"?

@chrisridd9423 2 года назад

Interesting comparison of all the models. I believe bluetooth multipoint is actually a standard and not a Jabra “special”.

@ZachDxn 2 года назад

Awesome video, was hilarious watching you jam out! 8:23 "pop, pop, popsicle, ice, ice, icicle test, test, testi-...ing"

@DHRME 2 года назад

Thanks!!

@rialto3 2 месяца назад

Great abstract of Jabra lineup!

@Skyler_twilight5279 2 года назад

Hi, in a shorts video you told jabra elite 85t is quite confortable . But what would be your top 3's under following category under 150USD . ( Lg Tune Fp8 are a little over my budget , will the difference be worth it) 1. Comfortable for 7-10 hours daily use minimum 2. Good fit, and noise cancellation 3. Low profile ( not like Bose and google pixel's that seem weird ) might be a good time to group the top in each category till fist quarter 2022

@Basith921 2 года назад

I have the elite 4 , its quite good and yeah got the update as well 🤟🏻

@MELLYMEDIA Год назад

Great review, thanks from Europe.

@Raj-nh3fc 3 месяца назад

Test test testicle! You got to rhyme all the way. 😂 I have been using the 65t for some years now and just ordered the elite 3.

@s76motiongfx68 2 года назад

Everytime I hear you testing mics I think... popsicle, icecle, testicle.. XD thanks for your awesome reviews!

@DHRME 2 года назад

Thanks!

@Humstuck Год назад

Its a bit weird between 3 and 7 pro, sure we her the voice better on 7 pro but we hear the wind a lot louder as well. Is it only an increase in volume that the buds do?

@geoffreygallagher3548 Год назад

Great video, thanks. I’m subscribed now!

@DHRME Год назад

Cheers Geoffrey, welcome to the channel!

@THINKULATE Год назад

I’m trying to decide which Jabra to get for Zooming and your video helps a lot. Thanks!

@shoerice5083 Год назад

Which one did you go for? I was thinking about the elite 7 pro cuz it seems to have certain things better such as BT 5.2 and better bass and highs response..

@THINKULATE Год назад

@@shoerice5083 I ordered both the 65T and elite 3 (got good deals on both, plan to use one as backup). I'm mostly concerned about the mic quality (not a music person) and free-from-wires.

@shoerice5083 Год назад

@@THINKULATE well i had a few phone calls with my elite 7 pro's, so far no problems with how they hear me... its fine Not the best out there but for phone calls its does the job well.. if you into recording for quality ofc these were not made for that.

@THINKULATE Год назад

@@shoerice5083 Oh for sure, I'm using them for Zoom meetings (multiple/day). Wireless microphones are no match for wired ones (well unless you're ready to spend...). Thanks for the tips though!

@Tjoppy Год назад

FYI (to whom it may concern) despite being the flagship the Elite 7's do *not* support Spotify Tap. If you want this feature buy the 3's, 4's Active (I don't recommend these because of the hard to press buttons) or 5's.

@rungavagairun Год назад

13:57 I have had some quirky connectivity issues with Jabra 75t. They sometimes ignore when I hit play on my laptop after I have been listening to something on my phone. I have found that if I hit start and then pause on my phone app, then hit play again on the laptop app, it usually starts playing on the device I wanted. I don't think I have ever had it happen the other way around. It seems to favor my phone over laptop. My earbuds have also spontaneously decided to restart out of nowhere. That doesn't happen very often, but it does on occasion. I love the sound on the 75ts. They have big bass, but it doesn't distort the rest of the sound if you adjust the settings. But when you are listening to music that has big bass, you can hear it all. Skull rattling beefy bass. The Elite 7 Pros just don't cut it with bass. Boosting just made the sound sloppy and muddy with the 7 Pros. I hope Jabra puts out another set similar to the 75ts.

@rungavagairun Год назад

Jabra customer service is great. I can confirm that. I can also say I have experienced some inconsistency in quality.

@TheSunnySuttons 2 года назад

I bought the Jabra elite 7 active but I am having zoom call sound issues? The sound connected but it's barely audible. This is frustrating because they state on their website that they are Zoom certified. 😢

@HariShankar-qn6nf Год назад

Hello Rohan and Kevin. Great video! what tou would recommned between the 85t and the 7 pro wrt ANC and multipoint connectivity?

@DHRME Год назад

7 Pro since you can use either bud on its own.

@HariShankar-qn6nf Год назад

@@DHRME cheers, thanks!

@waliddahdal9928 2 года назад

Mic test joke got me "testi" ahhaha 🤣

@AS-xb2cg 2 года назад

Haha everytime

@ibhuwanesh 2 года назад

in my jabra elite 7 pro automatic answer call function not working properly, i turned off the the automatic answer but tws answering the call, updated to latest firmware

@ongbengwan3029 2 года назад

Agreed their QC hasn’t been their strength. I had issues with their buds and gave up on them

@guims357 2 года назад

Sennheiser Momentum 2 vs jabra elite 7 pro pleaseeeee

@rouzah9419 2 года назад

6:01 You can't use touch button earbuds with gloves? I had the Beoplay EQ before i returned them and they worked with gloves albeit with thin ones. I thought all earbuds with touch buttons could be used with gloves, as well due to my experience with the Beoplay EQ.

@yrrr4871 Год назад

Sorry i can't take him seriously everytime he says "Pop pop popsicle, ice ice icicle, test test testing 1 2 3" 🤣

@Matskib Год назад

Is the microphones the same type in all of the buds and have all buds the same amount of mics?

@Jioe_ 2 года назад

Please help me to choose the one of elite 3 or 4? I think elite 3 have more better microphone than 4, even thought don't have ANC features. How about you???

@ulwur 2 года назад

I've have used three of these models. Loved the 75t active! When I lost them I bought the 85t. Could never get a comfortable fit with the oval buds, and hence the sound was awful. Gave them away when the 7-series came around. Great fit and for sound again, but the frequent disconnects and the reduced functions on the buttons (volume control!!) Was infuriating! Joy of joys! I found my first pair of 75t's and are happy again! But two strike-outs back to back makes me never buy any jabra products again.

@DHRME 2 года назад

Why do you say the 7s have no volume controls?

@ulwur 2 года назад

@@DHRME if you enable the assistant feature, long press for volume up and down disappears.

@Kevin-zf9jh Год назад

I agree Jabra should continue to make the 75t they are the best sounding earbuds I’ve ever had

@mandolina6280 Год назад

@@Kevin-zf9jh Yes, I wish they made these buds again. My Active 75t is more than 3 years now, unfortunately I have problem with a sound, even if the phone is on the highest volume setting I can hear very poorly. I tried everything nothing helps, also the pinhole cleaning, reinstalling app and so on. I can't buy Active 75t anywhere. Everywhere they are sold out and written discontinued. 😭😭😭 I don't know if it's worth to buy 7 pro.

@ashu_doc 2 года назад

I was waiting for some of my favorite channels to make this video. Thanks.

@boontarin 6 месяцев назад

Wow, that gen 3 mic in noisy conditions is superb!

@BrianVallotton 2 года назад

The Jabra Elite Active 7 is on sale on Amazon right now for 149.95 U.S. dollars. This is 30.00 off!

@thwraceingpanda47 Год назад

I was able to get them for 60$

@Raju-hu9su 2 года назад

Great job never seen any channel.

@MARKEHONG 2 года назад

Hi, i think you forgot to test jabra4 active in quite and noisy condition for mic. Thanks.

@TheGaztela 9 месяцев назад

Estoy pensando en pillar los 3 elite, que están bien de precio. El resto de los modelos doblan o triplican el precio

@Prakash_Selvam 2 года назад

Always I really like your unbiased reviews.. which one your suggestion to pick from options 1. Jabra elite 75t/ elite-3 or 2. earfun air Pro SV/ air pro-2 3. Edifier NB2 pro/330NB 4. Lypertek pureplay z3? Interms of call clarity and sound quality?

@cinemapigeon4898 Год назад

75ts slap insanely hard, probably harder than the elite 3 or 2. But you could easily spend $150-$200 and get all the ones you want and return whatever you don't.

@vivekvlogs9337 Год назад

Can you confirm if the charging case of jabra elite 3,4 etc fit for elite 4 active. I lost my case for elite 4 active hence the queation

@BlackHand531 2 года назад

Thanks for this. Jabra has so many options, it can be confusing.

@DHRME 2 года назад

You're welcome Andrew!

@amrit2292 2 года назад

Hi, i want to buy earbuds at ₹6000-8000 ... samsung buds pro vs jabra elite.. Is there other options too... I want good sound and anc...

@paulcridland5230 2 года назад

Hey you guys, i am hoping you can help me, what earbuds would you recommend for a side sleeper with a noisy snoring partner ? Cheers :)

@DHRME 2 года назад

We're going to have a pair of buds on the channel soon that might be a good pick ;) stay tuned!

@Zeeley01 Год назад

Hi Utrechts Finest. 😁 Have you had the chance to test and compare the elite 3 active to elite 3?? I know the differences, but not the quality. Are elite 3 buttons more "clicky"? Keep up the good work!!

@DHRME Год назад

Hoi Mark. We haven't had a chance to look at the 3 active.

@DanielDuedu 2 года назад

Waiting, I already own the 85t.

@anonymousplaz_ 11 месяцев назад

You didnt do any test fot elite 2 is it good ??

@clickmick9920 Год назад

I have no idea why jabra stopped producing 75t's

@joejones7852 Год назад

If in my area the 75t is 40 American dollars equivalent cheaper then the elite 7 pro, would you suggest it’s worth the bump up in price? The 85t and 7elite pro are the same price here.

@DHRME Год назад

The 7 Pro seconds flatter and lacks some bass punch. Otherwise, it's great!

@McmeYTman Год назад

I think a follow up to this video is needed to take a look at the the new Evolve2 Buds, elite 5, and 5T variants :)

@DHRME Год назад

It was fun while it lasted! :)

@rootlinuxproductions8397 2 года назад

As an earbuds and audio enthusiast I have over 200 pairs. Absolutely love the 75t and 85t. However I had to return my 65t because the buttons did not work. As the price drops I will probably add them to my collection again soon. Fantastic video as always.

@jaimeespinoza3557 Год назад

Please your topten please!!

@ezny7393 Год назад

Do you have to much money laying around ? 😅

@gtbigdog3507 Год назад

I only have about 15 and I thought I was crazy

@prajwalkhatri6853 2 года назад

Bought 7 pro last week but the latency was very noticeable, also ANC was weak. No difference when ANC was on or off. So had to return it. Settled with beats fit pro now.

@NA-pl4vi 2 года назад

Any update? I'm wondering about 1. Comfort 2. Loudness 3. quality/reliable

@NA-pl4vi 2 года назад

oh and call quality!

@prajwalkhatri6853 2 года назад

The fit is snug and secure. Doesn't have any issue with it. There was some initial ear pain due to the fins but now my ears seem to have adapted it. Call quality is good too. I use it with android and ipad. Now the connection with android seems more reliable after they've updated to new firmware. It can get loud but not too much. I have never used them in full volume. If i have to then I turn on anc and listen.

@NA-pl4vi 2 года назад

@@prajwalkhatri6853 awesome, i had to return my AirPods pro because too much pain so imma try these

@NA-pl4vi 2 года назад

@@prajwalkhatri6853 Just bought them, apricate the fast response 🥰

@rafaelcarreno778 Год назад

Finally, the Elite familiy explained! Thanks guys!

@DHRME Год назад

You're welcome Rafael!

@abdulsamad-zo6jl 9 месяцев назад

hi sir... i used jabra elite 7 pro but oncall with ride th motorbike people cant hear my voice and have sound anoying... before i used jabra elite 3 people still can hear my voice.... can u review which one better for answer call when ride motorbike...

@aryantoshniwal Год назад

hello, are 75ts compatible with 2/3 case? i have active 75ts, but their charging case seems broken.

@DHRME Год назад

Don't think so.

@cinemapigeon4898 Год назад

Been rocking 75t for almost 3 years now, they're surprisingly great (not surprising fast forward to today). I had no idea who or what Jabra was when I got them, just saw their name keep popping up in best of lists, then after watching reviews decided to get them (they were fairly cheap back then, dirt cheap now). I actually rock a near stock EQ but reduce the bass (still tons of bass). Honestly have no complaints, they've outlasted many more high end earbuds that I can't justify when those high end ones only seem like marginal upgrades in sound. Great sound a few years ago is still great sound today. I like my over ear headphones to be the critical fine dining listening experience (cough cough H95) while earbuds are more often gym or high energy short spurts listening, but I honestly think the 75t are plenty detailed and every genre enjoyable. I do however have Beoplay EX and Sennheiser M3s TW to look at soon. EX may capture what I love of the H95 in an earbud. To be determined... Jabra app also loads up super quick and is easy to navigate. Some higher end earbud apps take like a good 10-15 seconds to view your EQ and make changes, Jabra a few seconds.

@ebsatyunke8246 Год назад

Can 7 pro fit in 4 active charging case

@gus3967 2 года назад

Bro you forgot to review the Elite 2 model

@et8865 Год назад

Which ones have a mute function?

@peternacken4730 2 года назад

You forgot Gen 0, the Jabra Elite Sport, which were my first TWS back in 2017 .. woah .. 5 years ago ...

@DHRME 2 года назад

Ah your are absolutely right! Do you still like them?

@peternacken4730 2 года назад

@@DHRME Unfortunatley they died early battery failure death eventually... but when they worked I really liked them (there was not much to compare back then) .. sometimes I wonder about getting a new pair just for old time's sake. The sports feature and the app got me hooked! Was my first device connected to Strava

@dvil51 2 года назад

when I wear Jabra earbuds and walk or run I get this knocking/bone conduction sound in my ear

@DHRME 2 года назад

Whoa - all of them?

@dvil51 2 года назад

@@DHRME not the 85t. But the 75t, 7pro series and elite 4 active(but not as much). But when I use something like the beats fit pro I don’t get that knocking sound. I’ve read somewhere on Reddit that it’s a bone conduction sound. But idk.

@iemy2949 Год назад

You guys are a star full of skies.

@kuljitsingh2562 9 месяцев назад

Jabra 7 pro or 7 or soundcore liberty 3 in 2023?

@arvindpuryag8291 Год назад

I have an 85T with memory foam eartips Man this gets close to Sony's

@pitbull64 2 года назад

DHRME....did headphone reviews meet expectations?

@bobpowley8168 Год назад

I will add to my prior review... First of all I am in no way criticizing your video simply saying that it is pretty obvious the phone quality on calls is terrible across the board so with that I ask you which one did you find the best ...and why ...and how does it compare to leading earbuds in call quality... ?...Thanks bob

@carlson2012abqb Год назад

You guys didn’t talk about the elite 2 at all, why?

@sorcerermax5111 2 года назад

Zebra 75T was very bad for me in terms of comfort and sound. So I gave them to a friend few months ago and was using just the wired IEMs. Just now few minutes ago ordered Samesong galaxy buds pro. Hopefully they are much better

@DHRME 2 года назад

Loving the alternate company names! Or did you buy counterfeits? 😅

@sorcerermax5111 2 года назад

@@DHRME Nah, I bought it directly from their website. I recently bought Galaxy S20FE 5G. Its an awesome phone, so I am trying to be in Samesong's ecosystem only now. Hence ordered Galaxy buds pro and I watched all of DHRME's videos on buds pro before ordering them

@atul7173 2 года назад

I found jabra elite 75t better than samsung galaxy buds pro

@thirvel 2 года назад

Hi, Jabra Elite 7 Pro after the 2.2 firmware , the mic quality is very poor

@bobpowley8168 Год назад

Its poor on every model and I have had them all... the 4 is actually usable...

@rolins3279 2 года назад

Strangely, I don't trust Jabras for phone calls in noisy environments.

@agamlord Год назад

Test test testicle. Good review! 😊

@thehocuspocus9 2 года назад

Popsicles, icicles… This cracked me up lmaoooo

@thehocuspocus9 2 года назад

The thing is I commented before I let you finish. It’s test…ing. YOU KNEW WHAT WAS UP HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT ME CLEAAAAAAAAN

@DHRME 2 года назад

Hahaha, love that we could put a smile on your face!

@kaffenoizen Год назад

Jabra elite 3 active??

@jabeshraja 2 года назад

I was about to send a super chat and then live streaming is over

@ryanleeuwis1602 Год назад

the elite 75 are out of production and i lost my pair 😭😭 what do you think is the closest i can get to the elite 75 t?

@panique1 Месяц назад

same. what did you buy

@ryanleeuwis1602 Месяц назад

@@panique1 the jabra 75t pro. I like them but they are not as good as the elite

@sebastianperella9632 2 года назад

What's the best one for bass

@TarynMilnes1 2 года назад

75t by a long shot.

@Kevin-zf9jh Год назад

I’m going to guess ten seconds into the vid that the 75t elite are the best

@tmonine 2 года назад

Don't help Rohan make enchiladas? Do help Rohan make enchiladas? Decisions have really messy entailments.

@DHRME 2 года назад

Dude here's really minting expansions!

@gtbigdog3507 2 года назад

Love the jokes. Keep it up

@HelloHaven Год назад

I thought he was gonna say "test, test, testicle." He let me down lol.

@darrenpatterson4191 2 года назад

I know it’s a hard question to answer, as everyone’s ears are different. But which are more comfortable/discreet for smaller ears. The 75t or 4?

@DHRME 2 года назад

@Altamimi911 Год назад

Which is best jabra have strong bass powerful ever please??

@DHRME Год назад

Active 75T

@Altamimi911 Год назад

@@DHRME 75t more bassy than 85t and 4 active please???

@danlightened Год назад

Nice comprehensive video to navigate the Jabra nomenclature. Companies like Soundpeats and QCY are coming up with 10 earbuds each year with 3-4 at similar price points but who knows what the difference is. Anyway, again it's a disappointing video as is the case with most RU-vid reviewers. In 18 minutes, sound quality barely gets a minute of attention. Just tell me the best sounding one. Everything else is secondary.

@jabeshraja 2 года назад

Looking to buy Jabra elite 75t active in march 2022 is it worth buying it ? My usage is for gym, anc and sound quality please help me, is Jabra elite 75 t better than OnePlus buds pro

@DHRME 2 года назад

This video may help. ;)

@lylegraversen7672 2 года назад

I don't know about the OnePlus buds, but I've had the elite active 75ts for about a year and love them. Well worth the $100 I paid for them.

@jabeshraja 2 года назад

@@lylegraversen7672 thank you

@haitham1789 2 года назад

Def. Consider Them. I Think its one of the best of the jabras, it fits Well to most poeple, 85t is just okay But the fit isnt great to my ears

@79c15 9 месяцев назад

I have the t75s and love them. Wireless charging, noise canceling and all. But after 4 years they are officially dead

@touhidahmad8800 Год назад

Best earbuds under 13k.. ❤️

@iamzombie76 2 года назад

Anyone else expecting "pop pop popsicle" Ice ice icicle Test test testicle 123"

@mr_possible6197 Год назад

That's how earphones should be reviewed!

@rheeyum Год назад

Pop pop popsicle ice ice icicle test test testi....cle hahhaa

@bobpowley8168 Год назад

Ok I have one major concern that regardless of which Jabra you recommend there is ONE universal problem with ALL of them terrible phone and zoom calls...Multiple units across the board have this problem. I currently have 7 pro and once again terrible phone call quality... This is a know issue yet with every upgrade it is still a problem.. Check it out on the internet... Universal problems... Address this in your comparison...Then I will watch...