The original UCS ISD from 2002 takes on the UCS ISD of 2019 in this full comparison. The newer model has some pretty sweet upgrades, but does that mean the older version has nothing left to offer? Let me know what you think.
I like basically everything about the newer model more except for the greebling within the brim. I like the new quad guns though. I do wish it was the RotJ/ESB style Imperial II though.
Hi, Eck! Yeah Imperial 2 would be nice, but you can actually fold that antenna on the top which will make it resemble type 2, since everything else is indistinguishable.
Like many people here, I’d love an interior. But like most people here know, there is no way to have an interior while still maintaining the structural integrity of the model.
Sure, it’s possible, but that would severely up the piece count and price. For there to be an interior would be fantastic, but would make things significantly more expensive.
@@zachg4198 I'm fine with an extra couple hundred bucks for a more elaborate kit. Can still have this one, just provide something better at a higher price point. I own the UCS Falcon and it's great having all the little interiors. The UCS Super Star Destroyer had an interior and was cheaper also.
Idk man. With the falcon there would have been a lot of angry people if there wasn’t an interior. One other point I have is that, as iconic as it is, not much important ever happens on star destroyers. The only thing I can think of is the beginning of a new hope and even that is a bit of a stretch. We don’t see any of the inside of the destroyer. So yeah. Definitely possible. Expense would probably only be bumped up a bit, as you said. But it really all comes down to the designers choice and the price constraints LEGO gives.
@@zachg4198 Star destroyers have an iconic bridge set. Just a couple chambers to put the minifigs would be nice. The UCS super star destroyer set comes with Vader and Piett and bounty hunters, and this new set comes with two Imperial minifigs but nowhere to put them. I would add though that iconic imagery doesn't matter. Dozens of LEGO sets out there with interiors that are nowhere near as popular as their Star Wars line. As far as price, you can add a couple interiors and not have to jack up price. Again, it's been proven by LEGO fans that it can be done without busting a wallet. It's okay to be critical of a LEGO set, I've been an avid LEGO consumer my whole life but it's important not to blindly accept everything produced as perfect. They need feedback, and it's constructive feedback to boot.
I finished box three the other night and plan on knocking out the rest tomorrow. Having a ucs star destroyer has been my holy grail set since I was 12. This made me feel a lot better about waiting lol
I'd like to remind everyone that for a MOC of a similar size "with rooms inside" (i.e. the ISD Aggresor), you should expect to pay two to three times as much as what Lego is charging for two to three times the number and likely weight of pieces. As far as I've heard, the Falcon and ISD pack in a similar _weight_ in plastic. I'll have my own detailed weight figures once I've finished building mine.
a cool cat I have the UCS Millennium Falcon set (2017) and I never use the rooms. I have it on display with the minifigures out front and the rooms stay covered up. I’d have been totally okay with them charging maybe $50 or $100 less and taking out the rooms inside, so I’m totally fine with this one not having rooms (because it would be more expensive if it had them).
I had the original model back in 02 when it was first released. I absolutely loved that one, but as you noted, the old one was well...fragile to say the least. I had many times I would accidentally bump into my table and a panel would fall down from beneath haha. With that said, the new one is just light years ahead of the 02 one. And I would hope so after 17 years. With the prices of the secondary market, if you can afford one or the other, go with the new one for the size and accuracy and stability over the old one.
Great comparison, nice to see the differences between the two. From the videos I have seen of this ship, I am sold on getting it, just really a matter of when I do, probably 2020.
Now this should have been the in-universe difference between the Imperial-I and Imperial-II classes of Star Destroyer. "The 2002 model is just things resting on top of each other" So that's where the directors of Rogue One got the idea to rip Star Destroyers apart.
the fact that both of those star destroyers make you look so small, just correlates to the very size of those builds. Nice to look at and nice comparison.
8:41 I'm buying 2 sets and sticking my feet in those "spines" like he did with his hand. Coolest slippers ever! Next Star Wars con, I'm going to be the bell of the ball.
At the time the 10030 was the largest Lego set ever by piece count. And it was also the first model to come with a wire spiral. Even 10018 and 10019 sets which were large sets for their time did not come with the same binder - instead are a series of separate booklets. Nice comparison! The difference in the original grey versus the newer bluish grey is really prominent. Overall the newer version looks much better!
Great video Alex. Nicely cutt an edited. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the sets an comparing them. As for what one would I want... yeah I'd take the new one. I like the dimensions better
I like the shape of the new model, but I have to say I'm not impressed with the detailing on the sides and the trenches. If you look at a model of a star destroyer, the vertical faces look like cities crammed between massive plates of armor and I think the 2002 model did a much better job of capturing that. The detailing on the sides and trenches on the new one just seem too smooth
Hey Alex. Thanks for completing your own Star Wars trilogy. This one, like the other two, was very detailed and provided all the possible information one would want to try to make a decision. As you know, I’d didn’t pull the trigger on it when I had a chance for double points, but I’m hoping that I’ll have another chance sometime before Christmas. We’ll see. Cheers.
Man i wish there were more comparison videos like this one. You nailed it, this is just what i need when decieding what set to buy. I would like to ask you for comparison between new ucs star destroyer 75252 and new ucs millennium falcon 75192 i think they are two the best sets lego sets ever produced and i think a lot of people will apriciate that video and man you know how ti make a great comparision video. Thank you in advance looking foward to that video if you decided to do that
@@fissilepear7805 ok well there is only one Lego ucs executor super star destroyer from 2011 (no insults here unlike that fleet admiral guy......... And well I know fleet admiral and one other person already mentioned this but I had to type it the way I did)
@ironmike southern Is that not exactly what you're doing? Or at least what you were attempting to do. My original comment was a jokey response also intending to clarify the original comment because it wasn't clear what they were saying and you come in without knowing the situation and after being proven wrong you attempt to insult me. (Also, notice how I edited this comment ;))
I'm actually glad i didn't get the old one, i'm more impressed with the detail of the new one. Just wish it came with more figures Not gonna lie, when you were swinging the new one around, i thought for sure you were gonna take out a screen in back lol
I have the original, and love the way it looks on the shelf. Would have loved to get the new one just to have two if I had tons of money (and some more display space), but the way it is I will not get the new one. It do looks good, and some of the issues I have with the old one (like the magnets slipping its clutch power a bit) will not be an issue with the new one. Thank you for this video as it clearly shows the likenesses and the differences between them.
The price of Star Wars lego's is getting pretty insane. 300 to 700 dollars? Granted its got 1000+ pieces but its still a bit too much. I got the 2002 set on sale for 200 bucks back in the day.
havnt bought lego in years but do plastic models. cant imagine spending over 130 even on a dream build of something like a me262 with detailed enterior or a large scale battleship nevermind 700!
Alot of it is the star wars licensing fees. Disney I am sure charged lego alot to be able to sell starwars sets. Lucas film didn't charge them as much. Also the new one is easily twice as heavy. So it does have alot more plastic envolved.
If Lucas film wasn't owned by Disney and still George Lucas property. It might be close to 100 dollars cheaper around 600. Which is honestly not bad considering it is almost 1700 more pieces and twice as heavy.
Fred Grimm did you watch the beginning of the video? He clearly explains that LEGO used to produce the color gray you see on the old one, and then changed their gray color to the new one we know today. That Star Destroyer was the same color from day one
I have the original that I bought directly from Lego's website for $200 back in 2008. Having to take it apart was a pain when I had to move and I haven't found enough room to rebuild it.
I have an 02, but I had the (mis)fortune of things falling on it. But the way it leaned after getting hit and with some of the detail pieces shaken off into the display table was a perfect shot of a crashed star destroyer. I had it like that since 2008. The trailers for the force awakens made me a prophet among my friends. And so I still have my crashed star destroyer to this day... ...but yeah that new one is waaaaaay more detailed.
The bubble on the bottom is a part of the core generator, glad it was added on the newer one, and that the front hangar was added too. Weird that the new Tantive IV is smaller tho
I am gonna be the nerd, it seems that people has forget that the Star Destroyer from a New Hope was in fact different from the rest of Star Destroyers shown at episodes V and VI. The antenna and shapes. For that reason the new star destroyer is the best shape on my opinion, the one that all people like. And Lego did a very accurate work for people that wants the Star Destroyer from The Empire Strike Back and The Return of the Jedi. But, if we are talking about the Star Destroyer from a New Hope, I still think that the older lego set is more accurate. With all... what I expected when I bought the older one was the shape from episodes V and VI... I was a little dissapointed when I noticed that it was inspired by the Star Destroyer from a New Hope. But I liked that Lego teached me about something new that I didn't know about the movies. This force me to say... that it has no sense to add Tantive IV to this new model or failing when placing the antenna from a New Hope on a Star Destroyer from Epsiodes V and VI. The antenna from these movies are lower and more flat. I said this because this model is clearly not based on the Star Destroyer from a New Hope. With all what I really love is how they recreated correctly the bottom of the ship with two holes and that bubble. That is something that was there even in a New Hope and it was very sad for me that they couldn't recreate it at the older set. I agree that at the new model that thing is just perfect. Sadly I am, on the other hand, very disappointed with what Disney did on movies, so personally I won't pay for more Star Wars things. But if you want the classic Star Destroyer, and you couldn't buy the original set, and you doesn't care about Disney, you are lucky, this new set is for you. I love this picture I did a long time ago and I want to share U-U: steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/718663122363345885/4FA094D17BD221E7070A7B5BC9659E69F7447C7F/
The 2002 looks better for my taste. The gray and size make it look more appealing to me. The newer one looks more blueish in tone making the ship look duller. The newer one has more detail, but I would go with the original.
The one on the left, definitely better looking. I had the one on the right for a while, and it was a cool build, but it didn't take long for the off-kilter scaling to stand out.
i love the design of the newer one, it's definitely a step up compared to the old. like a lot of people, i think at least a bit of interior would have been nice, or, you know, at least a few more exclusive minifigures instead of ones we don't care about, but it's not integral to the model cus that's what this is meant to be, solely a DISPLAY model. the problem i have with this set is the disgusting price. it's almost the exact same as the UCS falcon, for 3000 less pieces. it has one of the most expensive price per piece at almost 20 cents. the falcon has a PPP at only 13 cents and i guarantee it was more expensive to make
I love how the Older one is a ISD made from Legos and how the new is a Lego ISD. Takes me way back when you got a pail of legos and made things from them using your imagination and now they have sets with plastic molded specifically for the build.
Hm not really... There is very little specifically molded for this model. They have somewhat more pieces but it is just more creative uses of existing pieces.
Yes, you are wrong. Every Lego set has new parts, but this use same parts as in 2002, but with more creativity, plus mentioned new parts... but I could not be surprised if some parts that I think are new where there at other sets before.
I think you have managed to change my opinion of this newer model. I originally wasn't a fan because it looked like the greebling along the edges were nowhere near as extensive as the original, but the other upgrades to the superstructure as well as details added to the rear make up for it a little.
The new one has a cleaner look to it. And actually has more detail on the super structure also compared to the original. But honestly the new greebling on the sides does still look very good in person.
I like the 2002 but obviously the 2019 has way more detail and is more of a replica to the actual Devastator in A new Hope. The problem I have with both is that the interior looks really bleek and that there wasn't much effort to design some controls or hallways or even the bridge. I get that you need to move them around but I still think Lego could have made a better interior.
They are beautiful designs and building will also be more impressive than something like LEGO Technic Compact Crawler Crane, but if you have built it you can do little with it. With most LEGO Technic you can still 'play'.
I'm not sure if you will point this out, but you mentioned the proportions of the early 2002 model being not quite "True to Movie" scale. TV formats were 4:3 and often wide things appeared squashed (narrower) on VHS. We have 16:9 now and it seems the marketing team wanted to match the image in peoples minds at that time.
I think I got the desk at OfficeMax. I don't recall what it is called though. I have had it for several years now and love it. The shelf on the wall which holds the Millennium Falcon is from IKEA.
They're both ISD I. You can tell the difference between the ISD I and II by looking at the antenna at the top of the deck and by the heavy turbolasers. On the ISD I they are dual barrels and on the ISD II, they are octuple barrels
@Alex, I am new in the Lego world. Which set is worth considering buying and waiting for price rising in upcoming years ? Is that maybe this one in the video , or maybe that Disney train from 2019 ?
If you are looking at the purchase in terms of an investment set then I think the Disney Train may be better as far as ROI. Playability will also be in favor of the Disney Train. If you see yourself as more of a "displayer" of LEGO rather than one who has a "layout", then the ISD would be a better option. I think the ISD would still be a good investment set, but you'd have fewer buyers in that market. Hope that helps!
@@alexnunes Thank you. Than I ll go for Disney train for now. It is around $300 and it may go up in the future. I have a 2year old kid and I soon plan to jump into Lego world but also thinking to buy something to have as long turn small investment. I read recently that 10 years ago some set from star wars was $500 and not it is around $10,000 on the market.
I have sold a large number of sets over the years, both new and used. It has become more difficult now that TLG expands the run time of sets. The 2 year run is a thing of the past and many sets run for close to a decade or longer. This puts supply way to high for a good return. The example you are thinking of is the original UCS Millennium Falcon. It retailed for $500, but the most it ever went for was $3,500 NIB, but that was an idiot who bought it. Most sales are closer to $850 for a used set and $1,800 for one still in the box. The recent release of the new UCS MF may have also decreased it's value. Keep this in mind, but regardless you can always derive a lot of value from your sets by playing with them alongside your kids.
@@alexnunes I am still thinking about entering into Lego world with exclusive sets. I have no idea if I will like it to build, kid is still small to play with large sets and beside of that I have no idea where to store my builds in the 120 m2 apartment. But the more I watch videos , the more I like them.
I see some improvements, yes, but not enough to cough up $700. The older model still works as I see it. I may work on those turrets though. New ones definitely caught my eye...
12:49 completely disagree on value on the underside of the 2002. They should have built out a proper docking bay. They could have made a taller set of stands and then you could play with that without the weight of the star destroyer being an issue. Oh and great job with the video.
