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Comparing Memories with Aphantasia (blind mind's eye) 

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Hey, everyone! I finally dragged my husband into a video 🤣. Today, we're comparing our memories (mine with aphantasia/blind mind's eye, and his with visualizations) and talking about how we organize/process them differently.
If there are other topics you think it would be helpful to discuss in this format, please let me know!
Hope you all are well!

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@coffeyaum
@coffeyaum 4 года назад
You and your husband are so cute! Yes, this was very interesting to hear the two of you discuss your different experiences. Also, yes I totally pictured a guy as your husband before this when you would talk about him, but I didn't have a very clear image of him. Now that I've seen him, his actual image would replace that made up one in my mind.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Aw, thanks!
@toxictyco7881
@toxictyco7881 4 года назад
When I "picture" someone I've never seen I just have to work with facts: skin tone, eye color, hair color, facial hair, etc. It's a strange feeling having someone not look like what you weren't imagining and still being surprised that you were wrong lmao
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Oh, that's really interesting! I never imagine what people may look like if I can't see them. I can tell basic stuff, like older or younger, where they're from, etc. But I don't try to think of a face. However, sometimes I can still be surprised. Like if I meet someone who had a deep voice on the phone, and they're really tiny, something incongruous like that. But really that's all. It doesn't feel strange, though. Just a second of surprise, and then I don't really think of it again.
@toxictyco7881
@toxictyco7881 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 yh so even tho I'm not generating an image I'd still say I have a basic concept of a few default humans that I expect everyone to look like. Most people don't fit...
@venturatshilombo1752
@venturatshilombo1752 4 года назад
You can clearly see in his face with his eye movements and looking up and sideways, he’s using his imagination and recalling things images lol or trying to using images
@faymann9834
@faymann9834 3 года назад
Her husband looks upward when he speaks. He is clearly using his mind’s eye.
@Mgl1206
@Mgl1206 2 года назад
that's not what aphanasia is, it's the complete inability to see what you're visualizing, I've been asking around and people actually can see things when try to imagine things (I can't, I can't imagine anything outside of stringing together concepts, words, ideas, and facts)
@Mgl1206
@Mgl1206 2 года назад
@@faymann9834 that's not how that works....
@NG-we8uu
@NG-we8uu Год назад
@@Mgl1206 For me it's the opposite, my mind thinks visually, sometimes that's why I can't put my thought process into words.
@samanthaholm9634
@samanthaholm9634 3 года назад
I always thought my "lock and key" didn't work on my brain, retrieving faces to names. I was so frustrated. But eventually just accepted it. So relieved I have an idea why it didn't work. When I discovered I have aphantasia, so many emotions good and bad. Like it's so unfair etc etc. But I had an epifany, when I go to sleep, I rest in my "black", I look into it and find peace. I never ever thought to do that. I feel better about it now, been two weeks since I found out. Crazy right.
@Fathergooey
@Fathergooey 4 года назад
So I have just realized about 4 hours ago that Aphantasia is a thing and I have been fervently researching it ever since. I think I have some different coping mechanisms than you do, but I identify with so much of what you have been talking about in your videos. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your talks. you are giving me a lot of things to thing about in both the similarities and the contrasts. I'm sure I will have questions in the future but for now I'm still just processing this discovery. keep making videos, it seems that others appreciate them as much as I do.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I really love hearing that people find them helpful.
@livkoopai5621
@livkoopai5621 4 года назад
Your husband looks so freaked out by the camera bless him 😂📸
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
😄 Yeah, he was pretty nervous about it. I was so happy he agreed to do it, though. I think it was a cool perspective.
@cooliipie
@cooliipie 4 года назад
He's scared about realizing he married a robot. Jkjk
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@cooliipie 🤣 Quite possibly.
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 3 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 He looks very alarmed and suspicious. He is thinking, "Wait, which woman was this again? And what is she talking about?"
@danielanavaes9514
@danielanavaes9514 4 года назад
I'm loving this channel. I think the MSDos analogy was really good for me to visualise (ha) what your memories are like. And I think there's a clear advantage to that, when you say that you can clearly recall any memory information you want, since it's all data. With me, it's definitely not like that. Absolutely all my memories are in the form of moving images and sounds, and once they fade away, it's really hard to recover them consciously. I have a handful of very vivid old memories, but most things just end up fading away, unless someone else talks about them to me, and sometimes not even then. Also about imagining things while someone else is talking, oh my god, how I wish I could turn that off. It's impossible, and sometimes I have to make such an effort to concentrate on what the person is saying, otherwise I just get lost in the movie being created in my mind.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Wow, that's really interesting! I feel bad because I know I've gotten irritated at my husband in the past for not remembering something, and I just didn't know his memory storage was so different from mine! It's so weird to me because I can remember all these stupid mundane things, like studying in my room in high school or sitting at the lunch table at school, but I can't see any of it. It's just like a list of tasks I've completed. So bizarre. It's kind of a curse to have to always focus on a conversation, too. Sometimes people talk to me about ridiculous things and I'm forced to listen while trying my best not to roll my eyes the whole time 🤣. This eccentric guy who is often in the park by my house has lots of ideas about how the Queen of England is controlling the world, and I've been forced to listen to them all 🤣.
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 I was talking about that to somebody at work today and he says "well that's impossible. You have to be able to visualize it" and I said "no, man. I can describe properties of the equipment we handle [I work in a warehouse right now holding medical equipment] but when I do that I'm not seeing anything in my head. There's no image whatsoever. Just a list of properties, an abstract description."
@kam0406
@kam0406 3 года назад
What a lovely couple with great communication!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 3 года назад
Thank you!
@harvey8138
@harvey8138 5 месяцев назад
Apart from his Aussie accent, as soon as he said "so I don't look like a Muppet" it confirmed to me where he was from 🤣
@aksez2u
@aksez2u 3 года назад
On a bit of a binge, and so it's nice to see you able to laugh and have fun with your differences after seeing your distress in the first video. I know this was over a year ago, but I'm intrigued by your questions. Unless someone has been described, I usually form a kind of amorphous image of a person, but for some reason I am much more specific about places. For instance, if I'm going to a new city or other destination, as I do my travel research, I form a very specific image of what I think it is like. Then after I've been there, I have to almost consciously replace the made-up image with reality. It's kind of weird and not altogether pleasant to be completely off sometimes ❤️.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 3 года назад
Wow! That's really interesting! So, if you look at a bunch of pictures online before you go, and everything looks one way, but when you get there it looks different, does it affect how you enjoy your trip? I was just thinking like maybe disappointment could be greater if you had a clear picture of what it should be.
@aksez2u
@aksez2u 3 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 Usually I don't think too much about my original expectations when I'm actually there. It's only later when I think about it, I realize that I have a kind of false "memory" that I have to wipe out. I think it could lead to disappointment, but usually reality isn't worse, just different. 🙂
@codirennke1109
@codirennke1109 Год назад
I could listen to you guys discuss your experiences and thoughts related to this endlessly. Seriously, you guys could do a podcast. Just turn the camera or mic on and talk about the smallest things. It is fascinating!
@ry1848
@ry1848 3 года назад
I am pretty much the same, I see absolutely nothing in my minds eye, I always thought people just used the words "visualise" or "Imagine" as synonyms for think about hahaha. But I do have a really good memory and it sounds similar to yours. The way I explain it to my friends is like a filing cabinet. If you ask for a memory I just go to that part of the cabinet and retrieve the information, and yeah my memories from primary school, high school are just as strong as what I did yesterday.
@Channeled_from_Zenith
@Channeled_from_Zenith 3 года назад
Oh and people have always told me I’m such a good listener. My mind, in the past, has wandered off and there was a constant chatter in my head but with diet change and supplements, the chatter has stopped and my mind is 100% quiet. I can often hear the blood flowing in my head it’s so quiet.
@roza2633
@roza2633 4 года назад
When you mentioned that one of you have aphantasia and another has bad memory I was just thinking about how... I have both, so trying to remember when and what happened is just impossible sometimes. And also what your husband said about literally telling himself in his head to "pay attention" is way too relatable, my inner monologue kind of just never stops so it keeps on going even when I'm listening to someone and I have to really work hard sometimes on.. turning down the volume I guess to really focus on what the other person is saying. But I've been called a good listener in the past and people do often come to me with their problems so I guess I'm doing a good job of not making people feel ignored :D Also! When you talked about how weird it was to read that someone was imagining how your husband looked before they saw him, that reminded me of how when I started asking people about their visual imagination I found out when I used to write fiction more often people who read my writing had actual images in their heads. And it kind of blew my mind, because I just never even thought about how the characters really look, I may have thrown in some short comment about it here and there, but to me when I read it's more like... just additional information to make the world seem more realistic I guess, it never crossed my mind before that people actually picture it when reading
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Yeah, it's still so strange to me that people make pictures of things they read. I used to write for fun when I was younger, and I'm sure if I went back through it now, I would notice that there were very few descriptions beyond the basic in it.
@roza2633
@roza2633 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 now that's making me wonder if there are any published authors with aphantasia and how different their writing is. I found artists with aphantasia on youtube, so I'm sure there are some and we just don't know
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@roza2633 I know there's speculation that the writer of 'The Witcher' has aphantasia. Apparently in an interview he said that he couldn't picture his monsters until he saw them on screen made by someone else.
@ToriLoverly
@ToriLoverly 4 года назад
Really enjoyed this conversation would love to see more, you two are a very cute couple. Yes the picture of your husband I created would automatically be replaced with the real person. I find this subject fascinating, I'm glad you started this channel. 😊
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much! Someone else said that they replaced the imagined picture of my husband, and now they can't remember their made up version anymore. Is that the same for you? I think that's super interesting!
@ToriLoverly
@ToriLoverly 4 года назад
Yes the same thing happens to me
@virginiahansen320
@virginiahansen320 2 года назад
Interesting thing is that those of us with normal mind's eyes will have memories in the third person. I have several memories, usually stressful or painful ones, where for whatever reason I remember it from another perspective. Sometimes top down, sometimes from a random outside observer. Never occurred to me until now how much processing my brain is doing to achieve that and how strange that must seem to someone without it.
@Caroline-tv3zi
@Caroline-tv3zi 10 месяцев назад
I used to be able to experience memory like that when I was like 5, 6 maybe 7 (where I could visualize what I had done in my head during say the previous week and it was sort of like watching myself from afar, and sort of like a minute being played of a movie as to what I had done, going fairly fast. But then it went away (it seemed to be like I became 'more cognitive removed' from it, more conceptual abstract thinking and less visual thinking). Once when I was 20 I had a several minute (my eyes were shut I was lying on the bed) session where I saw in the span of several minutes a sequence playing fast of what I had done during the previous year or two, and my perspective was watching myself from above (but still very much in my body, not an OBE but I was seeing my memories as if I had been out of body like).
@heart7676
@heart7676 2 года назад
I recently discovered that I have aphantasia and now everything makes sense. For example when going into a forest or just traveling I can't remember how the places look like but they have a sense of familiarity that's why I know I've been there or that was the path we took.
@shaunhooper6082
@shaunhooper6082 3 года назад
Question: How would you rate your emotions on your memories of the past
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 3 года назад
I really can't re-feel past emotions much at all. I know how I felt, like I can tell you I was happy or sad or whatever, but I don't feel that emotion when I bring up the memory. It's just another fact that I know about what happened. All my memories just have a pleasant, nostalgic feel - just calm and flat 🤷‍♀️. I think this may be related to SDAM and my inability to remember the past in first-person perspective. I've been meaning to do a video on that, but things have been a bit hectic lately, and I haven't been able to manage it yet. Hopefully I'll be able to soon!
@georgeholloway3981
@georgeholloway3981 4 года назад
You're good on camera. That's the musician in you!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Aw, thanks!
@ziggystardog
@ziggystardog 2 года назад
What’s interesting to me is how much you speak with your hands and physically act out narratives and images and how it differs from your husband. Do you have kinestheic memory? Can you easily remember dance routines? I’ve done some acting and singing and I have a strong bias to audio information. But since I have aphantasia and am clumsy, I’m hopeless with dancing and I can’t remember blocking movements. I have to draw pictures of where I have to move on stage. I’m even worse learning dance routines and it’s a huge problem for me at auditions for musicals, because they have you learn and walk through routines.
@headscratchgames
@headscratchgames 4 года назад
This relationship you have with your mind and memories reminds me of how i experienced my mind on the psychedelic iboga. There was this black cloudy space that my mind existed and it could access my memories and thoughts like they were 'indexed'.....but then occasionally an 'image' would arise from the smoke, perhaps with iboga you would see your mind's eye
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
It's an interesting idea, but it seems like many aphants can't get visuals on psychedelics either. Honestly, I'm a bit too nervous to try.
@headscratchgames
@headscratchgames 4 года назад
yeah iboga is actually one of the most intense psychedelics but has the deepest connection to personal memory and mind. Definitely not recommending anything but you might be interested in research (of course info is limited). The images that can occur in Iboga are 'hyper-real' versions of what people's mind's eye make - and they kind of pop out of the blackness cause you are still conscious but eyes closed and body immobilized. You might be surprised what the mind can do if left with nothing but darkness and nowhere outside to go for 10+ hours. Staying away from substances I would recommend a 10+ day silent meditation retreat (vipasanna or other options). Would be interesting to see the effects on the mind.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@headscratchgames I've had a lot of recommendations to meditate as well. I've never had much interest in it before because it always seemed kind of boring to just sit there, but perhaps it would be interesting to see if anything might happen.
@headscratchgames
@headscratchgames 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 thinking something 'might happen' is a kind of warped expectation cause the overall point of meditation is to passively observe what your mind and thoughts are doing naturally without reacting to them. The result of this change in consciousness of the mind passively changes how the mind fundamentally functions with no 'action' or 'event' needed. I'm not suggesting that your mind is flawed and needs to be changed but it would be interesting to see how your mind responds
@chamonix2602
@chamonix2602 3 года назад
I went on vacation at the in-laws, 18 years ago. I went into their yard at night, figuring I could remember where everything was. Oh! What a surprise! Stairs leading down to the root cellar! Ow.
@MrsCrazyJanina
@MrsCrazyJanina 4 года назад
Very interesting. Thanks!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
You're welcome!
@fearvo
@fearvo 4 года назад
Yep. Oh my god. Same same same. My techniques for remember are the same.thisbis hilarious. Good work 😀
@EdR77203
@EdR77203 2 года назад
Is having problems with names part of aphantasia? I've had problems with names for my entire life. I guess it makes sense since we can picture a face to go with name.
@kelvinlewis3947
@kelvinlewis3947 3 года назад
I found your videos great. Im also mind blind and listening you your experience helps me compare it to mine
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 2 года назад
Does your husband have a South African background? I'm picking up accent details that feel familiar. Although, I'm picking up Aussie as well. 5:25 - Oh, shit! He just said you went for the rugby! BOOM! HAHAHAHA
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
yeah, for me, if i imagined (which wouldn't be as clear as seeing him, mostly just possible characteristics) what your husband looked like before i saw him, actually seeing him would replace that.
@war5561
@war5561 4 года назад
Buy Stuff Together Yes totally. Like how I had a picture of Harry Potter in my head when I read the books but once I saw the movie the actors actually replaced all the characters in my head and now I have no recollection of what they were like before the movie.
@ellenscusa6504
@ellenscusa6504 2 года назад
I have a question that came to mind when you said you were unable to dwell on something. Does this mean too that you hever been depressed or rather you cant get depression? Because a lot of that is dwelling on old memories or the things that have happened to us. I feel that you have an advantage in this area. How awesome! That is if its the case?
@fournsevenhzerofive7617
@fournsevenhzerofive7617 3 года назад
I have Hyperphantasia, but I’m terrible at names and recognizing people because I don’t concern myself with others nearly as much as the average person. I’ll meet someone, and I’m like: “I literally do not have even a morsel of concern for whether or not I’ll ever see you again, so I’m discarding your name and face to make room for things I actually care about.” I can remember intricate details about the ideas discussed and the interior design at a restaurant, but not even remember the name of the place. I was watching a murder documentary, and the culprit was considered to be “playing games with the investigators” because he could give the colour and shape of individual parts of the grass and a metal thing (?) at the spot where he buried the bodies, but he couldn’t remember what state he buried them in. Meanwhile, I found the situation a little extreme but entirely plausible.
@chamonix2602
@chamonix2602 3 года назад
Once, while walking in my small town, I passed a lady. I said to myself, "A new person in town!" and she said, "Hi, Amy!"
@you2449
@you2449 3 года назад
Brains are weird things.
@ellenscusa6504
@ellenscusa6504 2 года назад
I actually didnt imagine what your husband looked like before seeing him. So I guess with some things I dont have to bring up a image. I can choose if I want to put more energy into the thought or not. But this is only when I dont have a image to bring to mind. When I dont know what the image looks like. But if I want to think more about it that is when I would use my imagination. Now that I have seen him if you mention your husband again a picture of him will come up if I want it to or not.
@mollymeanswell1224
@mollymeanswell1224 Год назад
Fellow quiet mind here... Notice how your husband is looking upwards and searching his thoughts while you are talking? He is distracted by the images...whereas you are constantly checking his facial reactions and body language instead of "looking" through your memories. You are more aware of how he is feeling because you don't have all the distractions going on. Although we are missing out on visuals and sounds we are making up for it on feelings and awareness.
@aldoescobar8192
@aldoescobar8192 4 года назад
When you remember things that happen in your trip how thise thoughts come.to you. Because seems you remember more that your husband. So you have a picture come to you even with your eyes open? I am confuse.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I don’t have a picture. I just know it. When I remember something, I just kind of get this dump of information. Mostly it's just the actions and things we did. I can't remember what people wore, or sometimes even all the people that were there, though. I'm not seeing anything, I just know that it happened.
@aldoescobar8192
@aldoescobar8192 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 just now am learning about this topic and am shocked. Because it happen for me the same. My retentive and memory is strong and I kind of remember the situation how it was. But not able to do Play again in my mind. Is hard to explain. I cam dream and I remember my dreams but not to placed mack in my mind when I close my eyes. I did ayahuasca once and was the only time I was able to see colors.with my eyes closed
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@aldoescobar8192 Yes, I'm the same. I remember events very well, but I can't play them again in my head. Unfortunately, I don't get visual dreams, either. I've only remembered two, and they felt like my other memories.
@aldoescobar8192
@aldoescobar8192 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 so basically remember an event is different than imagine something. For example you can picture your husband by a memorie but not imagine something new. Is this correct? Sorry for the questions but I want to understand if am on the same level. I can have in mind some memory of me 10 years ago and have a memory of what was going on that day
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@aldoescobar8192 No, I don't have any picture of anything in my head. I can't remember what thinks looked like in my memories nor build new images in my imagination. There's just nothing there. When I recall a memory, I just have all the information as data. I know what I did, but I can't see it. I can't picture my husband at all in my head. I recognize him when I see him, and I can tell you characteristics of him, but I don't have any image of him in my head.
@moyrahood
@moyrahood 4 года назад
Interesting that you used the computer DOS analogy as I’d thought exactly that whilst watching one of your previous videos, ie you ‘perceive’ and recall data as DOS whilst the majority of us ‘see’ and ‘hear’ WYSIWYG!
@rachelzuniga5300
@rachelzuniga5300 3 года назад
Interesting subject! You really talk and process out stuff. Good thing you don’t have pictures in your brain. It would be too crowded 😀ha ha I’m not criticizing, I’m the same but mine drives my husband crazy. You are interesting and expressive ☀️
@zrajm
@zrajm 3 года назад
Hmm, the husband was sorta looking up when he was trying to remember stuff... As if he's trying to (literally) find the memories with his eyes. I've read that that's pretty common, I wonder if it is less common among people with aphantasia?
@rachelzuniga5300
@rachelzuniga5300 3 года назад
She doesn’t look up , maybe because not pictures?
@Robert08010
@Robert08010 Год назад
The fact that your husband is NOT imagining people behind the camera is 100% perfectly normal. That is a technique taught to people to help them present better over video. IF he was a vlogger and thought about it for a while, he might probably come up with it on his own because to be natural on camera, you don't want to come across like you're talking to yourself. You want to be perceived as if you are talking to your audience. So it comes to people naturally after they see how bad their first attempt came out. But yeah there is no reason for him to instinctively imagine people behind the camera and not doing so does not say anything about him.
@cliffjackson1973
@cliffjackson1973 4 года назад
Have you and your husband taken the VVIQ test? I scored a 16 ( no imagery) and my wife my wife scored 80 ( hyperphantasia) it is a great insight for both of us.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Oh, that's a good idea. I've done it, but my husband hasn't.
@danniealexander4131
@danniealexander4131 4 года назад
Yes. That inner dialog is crazy loud sometimes. Lolz
@carolcarol3938
@carolcarol3938 Год назад
Your husband is very cute
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
another question. have you never gotten depressed? since you said you can't dwell on anything.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I had slight postpartum depression after my first child was born, but that's been my only experience with any kind of depression. For me, it was all just physical symptoms: lethargy, boredom, overeating, etc. I've always been pretty easy-going and quick to let things go. I'm not sure how much is just my personality and how much is due to aphantasia and no inner voice.
@EloquentlyEse
@EloquentlyEse 4 года назад
I know we’ve already covered inner-dialogue, mind’s eye, inner taste and smell... But how about ‘feeling’? It seems from this video you don’t feel either. When you asked how he knew some memories were wayyy older than others, that confused me a little. For me it’s mostly because the images are less clear, but I can also FEEL them. I know how different places feel, without images. You said all memories feel the same... I don’t understand. How about the birth of your kids? Your wedding? Do you also not feel any pull towards those?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Actually, no, I don't. All my memories feel the same. As if it's a list of activities that I've completed and that's all. I can remember what I felt at those times in the past, but it's really just data. I remember crying both times my children were born because I was filled with so many emotions at the time, but when I think about it now, I can't re-feel those things. I just know that I was happy and how I behaved. So really, all my memories are just sort of pleasant reflections, but not really emotional. Even memories that may have negative associations are not emotional for me to recollect. Like, if I think about a friend who has passed away, I don't really feel sadness, I just have the memories of things we did together, and they feel pleasant, like everything else I remember doing. Perhaps this helps: when I imagine a past time hanging out with my friend who passed away in college, it doesn't feel emotionally different for me from remembering a Thanksgiving dinner with my family as a child. Not sure how it is for others, though.
@EloquentlyEse
@EloquentlyEse 4 года назад
Quiet Mind Inside I think I understand. Why this surprised me so is because I’ve got into a casual disagreement with an aphant who vehemently believed aphants could feel memories better than visualisers, and for this reason he said he doesn’t envy us visualisers because he wouldn’t replace those feelings for vision. According to him, remembering his wedding always invokes tears for him, and not for his visualiser wife. I disagreed because I also have memories that I feel deeply enough to cry about, with or without using my visuals. But maybe it’s because I am not a ‘primary’ visualiser and only use it when I want to? Or anyone can have any set of abilities aphant or not? My vote’s on the latter. 😆
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@EloquentlyEse There was actually a big discussion about this on the Aphantasia Facebook group too. It seems pretty split. Some say they remember all in emotions, but others, like me, seem more information based. I wonder if emotions are remembered as another sense, like memories of smell or taste, so perhaps some of us have that connection and others don't. I would imagine if you only had the ability to replay emotions in your head and no other senses, they would feel more intense. Like how our other physical senses could be heightened if we were missing one. Alas, I seem stuck with just the annoying earworms and nothing else 😂. I've talked with other aphants that don't even have that ability, though.
@cliffjackson1973
@cliffjackson1973 4 года назад
I have SDAM as well. My memories are in third person and are few and far between.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Honestly, of everything, that is what makes me the saddest. It would be so amazing to re-see the best moments of my life whenever I wanted 😔.
@pwk22
@pwk22 3 года назад
Listening to this, a thought came to mind: sexual fantasy must be completely different between neurotypicals and aphantasiacs. Not to be too graphic, but for a NT, during, let's call it "onanism", the entire process is envisioning something that may or may not have ever happened. It is creating a movie, with audio and video, in your head. I can't imagine the experience is similar for aphantasiacs. I have no idea how it would work.
@wardarahman1757
@wardarahman1757 2 года назад
To answer your question; it’s a sexual fantasy that is primarily thought out for us aphantasics , almost like we have conceptualized what is hot and sexy and we are using our brain power in order to fuel this fantasy lol. We think primarily in words and concepts, but it’s usually just very abstract thinking-nothing visual.
@pwk22
@pwk22 2 года назад
@@wardarahman1757 Since you were kind enough to answer, I have a second question. Most NTs, including myself, have a little mnemonic trick we play when meeting someone for the first time. If I'm introduced to "Nicholas Smith" (assuming it's important to remember his name), I repeat the name over and over and over in my mind, my inner voice, for about 30 seconds. With any luck, I'm able to say, "Nice to meet you, Nicholas" at the end. Am I correct in saying aphantasiacs do not have this option? Do they have other tricks they use? Or maybe they just have an inherently better memory than NTs and don't need tricks.
@wardarahman1757
@wardarahman1757 Год назад
@@pwk22 Oh my gosh ui'm sorry for responding so late. I think most aphants have, less than spectacular memory when it comes to remembering faces, names, etc, unless we familiarize ourself around the person.
@stevenpan5800
@stevenpan5800 Год назад
data and meta data
@Netopia40
@Netopia40 4 года назад
Hello Courtney! You speak incredibly much with your hands. Almost continually. What happens to your speech if you leave your hands flat on your lap. Any effect?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Nah, it doesn't really affect anything. I could keep them flat. It just feels more natural to move them. My family's Italian, so I think I just picked it up subconsciously from my dad 🤷‍♀️.
@Netopia40
@Netopia40 4 года назад
LOL
@agirlisnoone5953
@agirlisnoone5953 4 года назад
So you're not able to ruminate?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I can, but the process is silent. I just kind of think about it, and then say it out loud if I need to actualize it to someone else. I don't talk to myself in my head to figure something out. I just know I'm thinking about it, and then I know my answer or decision or whatever.
@agirlisnoone5953
@agirlisnoone5953 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 so if you're upset about something that happened - say an argument with your husband, or you're nervous about a confrontation you have to make - what happens in your head? Does you not have to think about how to phrase something so its tactful and receptive? Especially if there is any defensiveness or anger there? Surely you've said hurtful things, and surely you've had to prepare a few words in your head so they come across correctly? Or are you just given the gift of never fumbling words? Or do you say the words aloud? Or do they stream across your mind as text? (If text, what font? That would be interesting) how on earth are you not able to dwell is what I'm getting at? If there's a stressful situation coming up where you have to decide which approach to take, with your kids, say, do you wonder, should I be stern and lay down the law or should I be gentle? Or do you not dwell or think about stressful communications and just open your mouth and whatever comes out is correct?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@agirlisnoone5953 Truthfully, I don't get angry very often, but when I do, I usually just say what I'm upset about and then move on. I don't get angry about something and then sit on it for a while. If my husband and I have a disagreement, generally by the next morning, I just don't care enough about it to get upset again. I've talked about this a little bit, but one of my issues is that I'm able to remember the fact that I felt a certain emotion in the past, but I can't re-feel that emotion. So if I was angry about something yesterday, I can remember today that I had been angry, but I can't feel that anger again. As for preparing what I want to say, I can kind of force an inner voice, but it's honestly not very good to work with. I can think of about three sentences this way, and then I start to forget what I was thinking at the beginning. My theory is that I'm able to use an inner voice just for my working memory. I can't really manipulate things the way it seems like you guys can. I'm not talking to myself with it; I'm just thinking the words that I had already decided on subconsciously. Like, I don't think a sentence and then think "No, that won't work. Let me try this." It's just the completed idea I worked out silently put into word form. Once I've thought it, I don't change it. And I would never do this during a conversation. I can't use it in the background while I'm talking to someone. I really have to focus on it. I'm not sure if I fumble words or not. As far as I know, I've never unintentionally hurt someone's feelings by saying something inappropriate. I believe I'm still doing all the same censoring in my head that you guys do, it's just subconscious. I think I do say "um" and "uh" a lot, though, so it's not like I speak perfect or anything. I still get stuck and have to wait for the info to pop out of my mouth. Generally, everything that comes out of my mouth is just what comes out of my mouth 😄. Like, I might talk to my husband about something with the kids, but I don't think about it throughout the day trying to find the best way to approach it. All that happens subconsciously, I guess, and I just say what I want to say when the moment comes up 🤷‍♀️.
@agirlisnoone5953
@agirlisnoone5953 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 wow! What a gift you have, even if you may not be able to appreciate it because it's all you know. It would be very relaxing for my brain if I could subconsciously decide how I'm going to approach a sticky subject or person.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@agirlisnoone5953 Yeah, there are definite upsides. On the other hand, it would be amazing to be able to go back and see and feel the best moments of my life. Once I experience something, that's it. I can't really go back to it except through pictures and my fact-based memory.
@jeffraines414
@jeffraines414 4 года назад
Ok... Here's the best question yet. If someone asks you to draw a picture of a cat, how can you do it if you don't mentally visualize a cat? I'm going down this rabbit hole lol 😃
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I know what a cat looks like even if I can't see it, but it won't be a very cute drawing 😂. Circle head, circle body, two triangle ears, four straight legs, and a tail.
@jeffraines414
@jeffraines414 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 nice LoL 😃 I have the opposite of you. I have a photographic memory. If I sit back and think about stuff from years ago, it's like I'm there. I can remember what people were wearing, smells etc... I think it's a curse 😯
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@jeffraines414 Ah, sounds amazing to me!
@jeffraines414
@jeffraines414 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 only amazing for the good memories. Horrible for the bad ones. 😯
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@jeffraines414 That's true. Learning all of this has given me a deeper appreciation for what people with things such as PTSD are really going through. Seems so much more terrible 😔
@danielmierop662
@danielmierop662 4 года назад
Please sit in a room where you can’t see the kitchen. Ok have paper and pen. Please no talking. Separate answers. Ok, where in the refrigerator is the ketchup? Does the paper towels drape over the top to you, or over the top toward the wall. How about the toilet paper. Last time you accidentally hurt yourself, burn,cut,pinch walked into something. Was it because of not thinking ahead. Like helping a building project and someone is moving a plank, your watching but don’t picture ahead that you need to move or get whacked. When you call on the phone to your spouse . I don’t picture my wife. If I choose to my brain will show me her looks, that is separate choice. If she now says she is walking from a room to another... say to check if there is an item needed while I’m on errands, then I can,or choose to put the image as walking in my minds eye. When you guys are comparing in the video perhaps husbands or your spouse is discerning the choice of the visual and or the progression of the visual. I love your channel. Also a great puzzle to test the mind for how it is available. I had no idea that this condition existed till I saw your first video. To meditate I used to think about thinking about nothing. Now I have a non sensical taught that doesn’t evoke any thoughts. After your first video I’ve been using it 24/7. I was jealous that you had this gift already, it is stuff choice to control how busy we want our mind. It looks like you guys are full of bliss,joy,and love. Glad you are curious!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
It's interesting because I am the one who remembers where everything is in our home! My husband can never find anything, and as soon as he asks me, I know exactly where it is. It's really weird to me now, knowing that he can make pictures in his head. Shouldn't he be better at it 😂. I imagine I'm cataloging the information the same way most people do, it's just that I'm not getting the picture when I recall it. But I still have the same data. It's super interesting to me that you imagine your spouse walking around the house when you're on the phone. I never think of my husband doing anything when I talk to him. I just focus on what he's saying. It's so weird finding out how much extra stuff you all have going on that I can't see 😂! Really fascinating to hear about.
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
wait so...if your memories don't degrade through less use of them, that means you never forget. so, when you were having breakfast 20 years ago, 10 minutes after you ate that breakfast, i bet you remembered it. but you don't remember what was eaten now, do you?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Well, they have to be important enough to remember. Generally what I eat doesn't really matter. However, I'm a super creature of habit. I really eat close to the same thing every day 😂. So 20 years ago, I would have been 20, so in college. My breakfast would have most likely been a bowl of cereal and a can of diet Pepsi. I had super horrible eating habits back then 😂.
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
Quiet Mind Inside lol got it. But you remembered precisely what you ate every single day of your life at some point, like 3 minutes afterwards, even though it’s not important. So wouldn’t it be fair to say that it didn’t reach your long-term memory? Thus, it degraded out of your short term memory?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@buystufftogether9539 Hmmm... This is possible. But I seem to make long-term memories fine, just without images or sounds. With your older memories, can you be sure of what you really saw all the time, or is some information being filled in that wasn't really there? I can't do that. So either I remember something, or I don't. I think the bigger issue is that I seem incapable of making episodic memories. All I store are semantic memories. So, for example, the way you remember the important facts of WWII is how I remember what happened on my wedding day. I can't go back and relive these things, so everything I remember has the same weight. There are just things I know happened to me, and things I know I learned.
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
Quiet Mind Inside I don’t think my brain fills in the blanks either. i hope not 😂 it’s amazing how different each brain is wired. I think with enough deliberate effort, people with aphantasia like you could rewire their brain to begin to imagine 🤔🤯. Thanks for answering my q’s! I look forward to the next video. ✌️
@buystufftogether9539
@buystufftogether9539 4 года назад
Quiet Mind Inside do you get hunches? what is it like for you without imagination?
@johnaustin47
@johnaustin47 10 месяцев назад
Dude your married to an NPC Y our soul is actual hers is fabricated " SORRY '
@Notpoop906
@Notpoop906 Год назад
this isn't a real thing. you're just seeking attention. if you have eyes, you have a minds eye.
@annipsy2185
@annipsy2185 4 года назад
i just wanna say youre so vibrant and lovely i hope youll make other types of youtube videos after this topic. not that ill ever be tired of this topic,its amazing to me...😁 your husband is also lovely ,you suit and compliment eachother:)
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much!
@rpfree
@rpfree 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 Who knows why the camera likes you, but it does! I wonder if your clear thinking and speaking is related to the aphantasia? I could see it becoming a priority if you can't easily "visualize" things, so you have to get good at communicating with the first try.
@RalphDratman
@RalphDratman 3 года назад
@@rpfree I'm beginning to think the people with aphantasia may be more advanced than those of us who do envision things and do have an inner monologue. Generally they seem very sharp and perceptive. I'm thinking aphantasia might be an ability, so to speak, rather than a disability. I mean, is there something they cannot do in the real world -- or is it only things they can't do in the inner world? Because people are successful or not successful in the outside world, not in some inner space.
@Channeled_from_Zenith
@Channeled_from_Zenith 3 года назад
My husband hates when I ask him questions about his visualization skills lol When I was asking him what he sees when he closes his eyes, he said static like tv static … so in the process of discovering my rare brain disorder, I discovered his even rarer brain disorder called visual snow syndrome. 👀 😂 we are all so unique.
@Amandahugginkizz
@Amandahugginkizz 2 года назад
I've had visual snow for 16 yrs since about 2 weeks after my first baby. I woke up from a nap durring the day in a dark room and boom it was fuzzy visual snow, I've seen it every day since, usually only when it's dark, but sometimes it's bad and I can see it over patterned surfaces
@markmuller7962
@markmuller7962 Год назад
Beside your husband being a little bit of a cough ass**le cough cough
@gwennydoline2911
@gwennydoline2911 4 года назад
Nice to see you both :)! I would like to tell you how I imagined him before - but I can't :D Once, I've seen someone I can't tell what I imagined before. The brain is so strange. I have a question: When you sing along to a song you like, do you just know the text? Or is it possible for you to fullfill the sentence of a catchy rhyme?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Wow! That's super interesting! The singing is interesting because I swear when I sing, I'm singing the correct melody, but my husband swears I'm always wrong. He makes fun of me all the time because he can't ever figure out what I'm singing until I get a few lines in 🤣. I can hear music in my head, though. It's the only thing I get in there. But it's only things exactly as I've heard them. I can't manipulate the sounds at all.
@mrridikilis
@mrridikilis 3 года назад
Do you ever experience deja vu?
@luisabrunhosa2325
@luisabrunhosa2325 3 года назад
This sounds so alien, I am sorry to say this but I remember things by emotional connection. This is what makes me remember things from a kid to now like they just happened, don't ask me what meals I had in last 3 days cos I could not tell you. Must be strange to remember every moment as the same "just data". Hope that's a wrong notion only cos as I stated before: Alien to me. Loving this subject and how fascinating people like you are though. By the way I can't remember peoples names at all.
@rachelzuniga5300
@rachelzuniga5300 3 года назад
Can you spell and do math in your head. I can’t 😞
@quaymius
@quaymius 4 года назад
It never occurred to me that people would have trouble differentiating similar memories. I just automatically know which memory is which. Probably because I see everything playing out in my mind. And yes, when you talked about your husband I did picture someone, but I had no specific details, although I was very aware that he doesn’t look the way I imagined. Yet another great video!!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks!
@zzzzzz-zv9ev
@zzzzzz-zv9ev 3 года назад
You then dont control your selfe .. you have memory but when somone points someting to you ..so you can go to France go back And have no memory in 1 months odd i can see smel even see me picking rock And how it felt ..I can even add someting from last trip to second if i wanna And conecct them in one ..hmm this is facinating
@elizabethwilliams6612
@elizabethwilliams6612 4 года назад
Thank you both! Such a cute couple. ❤️ My older memories definitely degrade over time; takes longer to fall apart if it's one I pull up often. I did imagine your husband, but now that I see him, I can't remember how I had thought he looked. His reality replaced my assumptions. Fun thing I can do: I can tell you exactly where stuff is. My kid can't find the ketchup in the fridge. I can tell him from the living room, "It's in the fridge, in the door, to the left of the Mayo on the second shelf, near the middle." Unless my husband has been in there moving stuff around, I'll be spot on.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much! Interestingly, I'm the one that knows where everything is in our home! My husband can never find anything 😂.
@laurenflier645
@laurenflier645 4 года назад
I love your videos and your voice. Love watching you! Your husband is a hunk! I found your channel a couple of weeks after you posted your first video. Right after I had first learned about aphantasia. I really enjoy your explanations. Like others, I really enjoy this topic. It's so interesting. But I would welcome videos on other things from you as well. You are so real and I love how your content seems very unrehearsed yet you speak so well off the cuff. I feel like I have used the word love way too many times in this comment. Ha! Thank you for sharing!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Aw, thanks! That's so nice! I really appreciate the kind words.
@MatthewLenton
@MatthewLenton 2 года назад
I have aphantasia. I do have an inner voice though which can be very overactive but I think I'd drive myself mad if I didn't have that
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 года назад
11:05 all data, yes, I would agree with that. There's no image, it's just abstract information. Like for example if I think of KITT from Knight Rider, I know it was run by Strong AI program, it was indestructible, it was long and black, it was a 1982 Pontiac Trans Am. But these are just abstract points of information. I don't see images of the car in my head. I just know things about it. If that makes sense to anyone. :)
@jmfs3497
@jmfs3497 2 года назад
I think my manager has Aphantasia, and also OCPD and narcissism. I might have Hyperphantasia and ADHD. I get into flow states where I can plan entirely inside my head and solve problems before they happen, and he seems to only be able to start working in order to find out what the obstacles are. He thinks my problem solving ability is "luck", and my planning is lazy, and I feel like he is chaotic and an energy vampire. It wouldn't be a big deal if there was some autonomy to do my job the way I used to before he became manager, but he INSISTS on dragging us into his mental state of constantly redoing thing until he or our clients give up on trying to get it right. He seems like he can't relate to others other than superficially. He can repeat words back to people as if he understands, but ultimately it is clear that he doesn't really know what anyone is actually meaning with their words. He can't go any deeper than the words he is repeating, there is no insight into anything, and asking him simple questions makes him very upset.
@markmuller7962
@markmuller7962 Год назад
I kind of envy you guys living so much in the present, I'm struggling with mental disorders, neurological ADHD and such 😖
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 года назад
Husband, are you seeing images of these houses in your mind's eye? Do your eyes have to be closed to do it? Like I said, I am like Quiet Mind, literally if my eyes are open I literally see just what I'm looking at, and if they are closed I see darkness. That's crazy if you actually see images of the house. Is it a vivid image, like high resolution?
@debbiesaunders1815
@debbiesaunders1815 Год назад
Cor, your husbands bloody lovely looking, is he South African? You are very beautiful so I can see how you bagged him 😂
@jeck0_0.
@jeck0_0. 3 года назад
I think this video was more helpful than any I've seen until now, where they just plan the whole video and speak generally about aphantasia, for example, at 15:42 the fact that you don't get memories when seeing places/things in my opinion is probably related to the fact that people with aphantasia tend to get over things more easily (which is what they said in another video). Also, I can only process one thing at a time too, so I can't listen to someone while doing something unrelated, or stuff like that.
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction 2 года назад
The guy suffers from vagueness. He doesn't seem to understand any question which is asked. People who don't understand things never say that they don't understand because they don't know what understanding is.
@russellstutler8234
@russellstutler8234 2 года назад
You personal memories seem to be similar to recollection of data and facts gleaned from studying historical events which also have no personal images associated with them. I am terrible at recalling such things; maybe if I made an effort to find images to associate with historical data I would have done better on history tests.
@buchibabub1189
@buchibabub1189 10 месяцев назад
When I read a book which says, just imagine of you won a oscar and how do you feel.... My answer blank
@CactusBug60
@CactusBug60 2 года назад
Oh so do you feel as if there is no time between events? I noticed when I catch up with someone after a year or more has passed, it's like no time has passed and I just continue as if I had been talking to them the day before. Which also means I don't miss people when they are away.
@war5561
@war5561 4 года назад
When you go to a place you’ve been before, but maybe only once or twice.. do you remember that place? Like I’m wondering.. when you remember the house you went on vacation to.. do you remember the color of the house?
@cooliipie
@cooliipie 4 года назад
If you can't see your memories they just disappear? Always living in the moment? Can you draw things you've seen before? Like look at something, analyze it closely, and then put it aside and try to draw it on paper from memory. Would be a great video. What does you mind retain. You and your husband could both try and see the differences
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I have memories, but no images or sounds with them. They're just kind of like data I guess. They don't feel any different in my head from other facts; it's just that I know they happened to me. And I'm terrible at drawing!
@0u0ak
@0u0ak 3 года назад
Someone I know has the same ‘random access’ to conversations, rather than actions.
@Amandahugginkizz
@Amandahugginkizz 2 года назад
What about like the day he met you or your kids births does he remeber those clear?
@jeff-8511
@jeff-8511 3 года назад
It’s really difficult for me to remember names.
@barday21
@barday21 4 года назад
For me, if someone said a name of a person I had not seen before, my brain creates a picture of what they might look like based on the limited information given. For example, when you spoke about your husband in your videos I had a picture of what he may look like. Of course he doesn't look like how I had pictured, how can he as you did not give any descriptive features but I think its something the brain does to build some kind of connection to the person being spoken about. I suppose you don't ever picture what a person you have not seen before may look like. If you are speaking to someone on the phone e.g an operater, do you ever get a picture of what they look like based on their voice
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
No, never! It's really so weird to me that you all do this! When I talk to someone on the phone, I might be able to guess like where they're from or an approximate age, but I don't really use it to build any idea of them in my head. I'd only really bring up the information if someone asked me about it. The truth is that I've always hated talking on the phone. Even just ordering pizza made me kind of anxious. I'm thinking now that this may be because of the Aphantasia.
@missyhilary8905
@missyhilary8905 4 года назад
Just Me I actually do try to picture the person on the other end of the phone. Maybe nnot features, because I’m blind, but I get a height, how much they may weigh, their skin tone... stuff like that. I love this whole topic, and I think Courtney should keep talking about this stuff. Very interesting to me.
@barday21
@barday21 4 года назад
@@missyhilary8905 👍🏼
@OB13400
@OB13400 4 года назад
Any1 else thinks he looks like michael scofield?
@valeriastrode4324
@valeriastrode4324 Год назад
"Our son wasn't alive yet" lol
@Christine.Baraka
@Christine.Baraka 4 года назад
You guys are so cute! I hope you do more videos discussing with your husband, it’s super interesting hearing how you compare memories. I have so many questions!!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I'm trying to think of something that would be interesting for us to talk about 😄
@SailingWitStrawHats
@SailingWitStrawHats 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808Could you maybe talk about a movie or series you both like and compare what you like about them, how you recall them, etc?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@SailingWitStrawHats That's a good idea. Our tastes are really different, so I'll have to think of something we both liked 😂.
@OhClarisse
@OhClarisse 4 года назад
I'm glad you keep making these videos! Just recommending you some things to have more views in your videos! Maybe read a little bit about RU-vid SEO? But you're super nice and your husband too.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I honestly have no idea what that is, but I'll look it up 😊.
@sarahluty7083
@sarahluty7083 4 года назад
I can relate to your husband 😂. I often hear something that a person says and my mind will go off on a whole tangent, and then I'll realize that I have been ignoring the person I'm listening to and didn't hear the last few things that they said.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
🤣 I'll let him know he's not alone!
@Mia-bh5eb
@Mia-bh5eb 4 года назад
Teach us how to not dwell 😭
@Scorp1u5
@Scorp1u5 4 года назад
Thank you for all these videos! On the first video of yours that I saw, you were sad that you don't have the "normal" experience but I'm not sure you're worse off. For all I can tell your existence is at a higher level, where we're down in the gears of the machine manipulating it. You on the other hand seem that you don't have to worry about that. Also you asked what the point of word problems were with math. They are to get students to identify the relationships and order of operations, so that they can apply math in situations outside of a textbook. I wanted to ask about how you tell lie. I know you've said you can, but how do you decide to lie? Do you observe yourself lying and figure out that you are lying because of the words coming out aren't true, or do you commit to the lie before the thought words come out? I always have to choose the words most likely to create my desired outcome. I think the bigger thing I'm touching on is planning. How do you plan without an inner monologue?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Based on what I've learned from other commentors here, I think I'm just not that good at planning 🤣. Honestly, when I want to lie, I just lie. I know that I'm lying, and I just say the lie I want to say. Perhaps I'm running through the same scenarios in my head to determine what the best lie is that you all are, but the process is silent, so I'm not actively paying attention to it. If you asked me afterwards if there were other lies I considered, I would be able to tell you if there were, but I just don't take them out of that conceptual stage unless necessary. I really don't like to lie, though, so I don't do it often because I don't like the feelings of guilt after. I bet, though, that my lies are way less inventive or detailed compared to others. For planning, I don't know, I just do what I feel is best. Perhaps I'm a bit more "fly by the seat of my pants" than average? I'm not sure. I do need to write my schedule down to not forget things, though. I really think the only difference between how my mind works and a "typical" one does is that for some reason I'm not doing the translation process from thoughts to internal sensory experiences. Why that is, though, I have no idea. My husband thinks I likely just fell into this way of thinking as a child and determined it was easier. I think it's more likely that there's some funky wiring up there that caused it 😂.
@ginaprespare1316
@ginaprespare1316 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 You probably have so much more peace of mind than those of us whose brains babble away. What you have is a blessing in disguise.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@ginaprespare1316 I'm trying my best to focus on the good over what I'm missing out on. It's getting easier; although, I still have some jealousy over not being able to see memories with my loved ones. That's the hardest thing, I think.
@judgeroygreen7046
@judgeroygreen7046 4 года назад
Does it help if you work on it with memory tricks. It's interesting to see your husband looking up into his mind's eye to remember. Are you aware of the Mandela Effect? And have you ever seen the movie 'Rashomon'? There was an episode of The Simpsons where Marge says to Homer, "You liked the movie 'Rashomon'." to which Homer replies, "That's not how I remember it." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect
@rachelleturner5391
@rachelleturner5391 3 года назад
How do your children remember/think? Did it get passed down to them?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 3 года назад
I don't think so. They seem to visualize fine. My son is still a bit too young to really talk about it, but he'll play with imaginary characters and says he sees dragons in the air, so I think his mental imagery is working. 😄
@cooliipie
@cooliipie 4 года назад
Are you able to do voice interpretations?
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Hmm. I can make up silly voices when I'm reading books to my kids, but I can't impersonate someone else's voice very well I think.
@divineconquer7648
@divineconquer7648 3 года назад
Hi, Randy again, I'm kind of going backwards on your videos, so forgive the question about visualizing yourself, husband, kids, cause you answered it in the next video I watched. Sorry. For me, my mind deals more with concepts instead of visuals. Here's a situation from 30 years ago that I COULD DO THEN, but very hard or impossible now. It goes, I did a memory speech where I had 10 positions visualized while walking into my college dorm - (outside next to the door, in the middle of the hallway, in front of my room door, in the middle of the room, on my bed, under my bed, on the desk, like that. Each position had a number from 1 to 10. I asked somebody to make a list from 1 to 10 on paper and asked random people to pick an unused number and an animal or easily recognizable object (say, number 6, lion - number 3-bear, number 9-a stuffed giraffe, and so on until I had all 10 numbers with objects or animals assigned to them. After each person said a number, I would say, 'wait' until I brought that number position in my head(under the bed) then I asked them to name an object or an animal (a stuffed giraffe) then I would close my eyes and visualize or 'put' a giraffe under my bed. So every number was random, but I put each item into its place, and when they were all done, I took a second and recited 'there is a bear outside the dorm by the door, and there is a lion in the hallway, and a triangle by the door, a fan in the middle of the room, a hippo on my bed, and a clown is looking at me through the window. Now, mind you, all of these are merely examples of what I did(not my actual memories of the animals or positions,that was 30 years ago) but I CORRECTLY NAMED EVERY NUMBER WITH EVERY OBJECT/ANIMAL THAT THE CLASS CHOSE. If you want a fun game with your husband or kids to play, try the memory position/object game with them and see how you and all of them do. This technique can be used to remember like shopping lists too(milk on your doorstep, eggs on your bed, pancakes on your couch, peanut butter in your tub, try it, I think it will really help and if not right away, then maybe over time. I'm so glad you have opened my eyes to what I can and cannot do(or could do), and best of all I hope you and your family can make use of this memory technique that I learned in college. Bye, for now.
@soburlvt
@soburlvt 4 года назад
I don't know about other people, but any time I bring up a memory, there isn't a 'movie' that starts playing. I think that there are more similarities to how you and other people think/remember things, than you realize. There are times when there might be a sequence but it usually is more fragmented. Someone could mention 'Paris' and I might have a few flashes of memories from there. I went there is 1972 when I was 13. I can't remember all of the places I saw or all the people I met. It's a little like taking a book and instead of reading every word, you read a couple of words on each page. You can get to the end and have an idea of what the book was about. To me, that's more of how memories are. Little snippets of things. Not a whole movie with a beginning, a middle and an end.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
Would more recent memories be more "movie like" or are they all like image flashes no matter when they occur?
@soburlvt
@soburlvt 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 Not really. Maybe for someone who has total recall. If you think about it, if you ran a memory through your head like a movie, it would take as long as it did when it first happened. That's why I feel we remember snippets. We might be able to take a snippet and look at it more closely i.e. bring back more of the memory. Instead of movie, I think a better term to use would be 'highlight reel'. This is all very interesting. Thank you for sharing these videos with us. Your husband is great!
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@soburlvt Thanks so much! He was actually really nervous about doing this, so I'm sharing all the positive comments with him because they've been really great. Thanks for the highlight reel idea. That helps me get it better.
@rosemarievanberlo5363
@rosemarievanberlo5363 4 года назад
Hee! A question, how do you remember these facts? I struggle when I'm talking to friends of family about holidays or other things that happened. I feel I can't always talk with them because I can't image things in the past like other people do.
@rosemarievanberlo5363
@rosemarievanberlo5363 4 года назад
Same with the difficulty to remember songnames or singers.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
I actually have a really good memory for my past, all things considered. But all of my memories seemed to be based on things I've done, rather than on people, objects, or locations. So, for example, if my brother asked me to remember what a doll of mine looked like from my childhood by giving me the name of the doll, I wouldn't be able to tell him. But, if he asked about the time I lost my doll at the mall, I would then remember which doll he was talking about and would be able to give a list of descriptions and other times we played with the doll. If you try focusing on things you've done, rather than things you've seen, is it easier? I find once I've gotten the starting off point for a memory, I'm pretty good at recalling it, but if you ask me something too general, like "Which birthday was your favorite?", I really have a hard time coming up with something.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@rosemarievanberlo5363 For song names and singers, I'm pretty much hopeless! 😂 I know the names of pretty much every Beatles' song, but that's about it.
@rosemarievanberlo5363
@rosemarievanberlo5363 4 года назад
@@quietmindinside4808 Got it! It's the connection that you make. I try to remember specific situations, but without any other connection or an image, it needs to be so special to remember, otherwise it will flue away quickly. Facts are facts if you get it 😂 Love you video's and thanks for the fast response.
@quietmindinside4808
@quietmindinside4808 4 года назад
@@rosemarievanberlo5363 Thanks! Glad you like them!
@Amandahugginkizz
@Amandahugginkizz 2 года назад
I have sdam and aphantasia but I have an internal monolog in always talking to myself and trying to figure it out in my head. Having sdam bothers me the most not really remembering my kids births and stuff. My husband remembers past life like a timeline too and I remeber it like a bunch of random files that got dropped and I'm trying to put them back in order. It's kinda like GPS directions, my husband can get there by looking at the list from a to z and following it, I get there by landmarks and distinguished things like the pink house on the corner the mcdonalds with the playplace the splash park, the big horse statue.. I think that's a good way to describe the difference also. I think its why I have always been obsessed with photos and video but especially am now I have 5 kids and atleat 500k photos on diff hard drives. Just on my 1 yr old phone I have 55k photos
@marywilmer1711
@marywilmer1711 Год назад
I discovered I have aphantasia about 2 years ago. I'm just now discovering your channel and am sad to see that you only did a handful of videos. Thanks for those...much appreciated.
@vela-6
@vela-6 3 года назад
Heh, pretty cool you started off talking about a comment I left. But you misunderstood. When I stream, I do not imagine the audience behind the camera. Instead, I imagine what the audience sees. So, it's more like I'm watching myself while I stream. I see my facial expressions, and all that, while also watching the game/chat.
@Cmf748
@Cmf748 3 года назад
You say memories feel the same strength because it is all just data to you. I am wondering if, like, you could remember the actions you have done in a current day, like what you ate for breakfast, etc, and a LOT of "data", but if you think about a week ago, like oh remember we went to the movies last week. And you could say, yeah I remember the action of us going to the movies. My question would be, do you have as much "data" from that day as you do from today? Like, can you feel how far away some memories are based on how much "data" you have around that action. I guess, how much context of that event you can remember?
@JeanPaulB
@JeanPaulB 3 года назад
No one person can speak for humanity. Doesn't mean you can't speak! In fact, that's why we all should to speak. P.S.: I had no picture of your husband, but now I think he looks like some actor I can't remember the name! lol
@crivsmum4820
@crivsmum4820 3 года назад
I struggle to have a timeline too but my memories seem to pop out of a black hole! If there's a very specific date I may remember it. I think my computer is broken lol. I also give a 100% to a conversation and now I understand the men in my family a bit more, that maybe they don't have to. I hate "to do" lists as well as I guess I can't think of things I don't know might need doing ... I know I'm a year late but this is so fascinating!
@jeck0_0.
@jeck0_0. 3 года назад
11:41 this happens to me as well, also, does it ever happen to you that when multiple people talk at the same time, or they just talk very fast, you don't remember who said what, like, sometimes you think X said something, when in reality it was someone else who was talking in that moment?
@skyricharde6629
@skyricharde6629 3 года назад
as someone with hyperphantasia, all of my memories are just as vivid. The only way I can distinguish timelines is based on the image of myself within them. So when i look back at memories of when i was 3, they feel just as strong as memories from yesterday, but I understand the context, because I'm looking up at my parents, chairs were like climbing mountains, and numerous other things... but yeah, there's no memory degradation.
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