Comparing Pflueger President Size 20, 25, and 30. 

could a 25 handle big bass or would I need to get a 30

That really depends on the line weight you're using. The 25 is more of a 4-8 pound test reel, whereas the 30 is better suited for 6-10 pound line.

@@fishingthemidsouth I have been fishing 4 lb for a long time. If I go higher it's usually to 12 on a baitcaster setup.

Yes, the 25 is my "sweet spot" for 4 pound line. I like the larger spool inner diameter for less like twist than the size 20, but the 30 is overkill for ultralight. If I were running 10 pound mono, the 30's size might be more appealing.

@fishingthemidsouth so you think the 25 would be a good trout reel, I wanted something light and small for my 5'6 moderate light. The pflueger 35 looked small enough in store and the 30 reads its designed for 6lb to hold 145 yds or something. I think theyre gonna be way too big for my two 5'6 rods and cabelas/bass pro has such a shit return/cancelation policy I'm screwed for opener unless I go buy another reel in person!

@@marlattmotos So this is where it gets tricky. Your trout and mine may differ. I don't typically fish for trout, but when I have, it's been ultralight with 4# mono/flouro for small rainbow trout. If you're using a heavier rod, or want to use significantly larger diameter line, you may feel differently. The size 20 is similar to a size 500 in other brands, like Shimano. The size 25 is similar to a size 1000 in other brands. The size 20 also has 7 bearings vs 10 in the size 25, but it can be argued if 10 are needed. To really complicate things, if I were spending $69 for a spinning reel, the Daiwa Regal LT 1000 is absolutely worth a look. It's lighter than the size 25 President and holds significantly more line (too much, IMHO if you're using 4# mono). I just noticed that fleet farm has the Daiwa Regal LT 1000 on sale for $44.99 and appears to offer free shipping. If I didn't have too many reels already, that is what I would buy. It only comes with the deep spool (and thus too much line capacity), but at $45, it's a deal. The line capacity on fleetfarm is wrong for the 1000. It's 220 yards of 4 pound mono per daiwa's site. 220 yards is overkill for what I fish for with an ultralight, but mono is cheap and the reel is excellent. Good luck

Just buy 2 more and return the originals later.

I'd suggest a 30 for bass fishing as you'll typically be using 10-14 pound mono and the increased line capacity will be helpful.

@@fishingthemidsouth that’s what I was thinking but didn’t want to make the wrong choice I don’t know if you used them but would you say a pflueger president would be a good budget spin combo

The regal LT is lighter, so if you're doing cast and retrieve all day, the Regal LT will be easier on your arm and it's simply a fine reel for that price point. Unless you can find a compelling reason in specs (such as line capacity or line retrieval rate), the Regal LT would be my choice.

IMHO, the Daiwa Regal is the better value for the price. It's lighter, but it holds so much line (too much). As far as I know, it only comes with a deep spool (hence the D in the model 1000d). The reason to get the 25 over the 20 in the President is 10 bearings vs 7 in the size 20. The other major reason is that the spool diameter on the 25 is larger, meaning fewer twists (fewer loops have to come off the spool for the same amount of line). The downside of the 25 is more weight, but I don't find that the weight is really an issue. It changes the balance point on the rod, but it isn't like your arm is going to tire out quickly. As for the 3 extra bearings, does it actually matter as a point of practicality? Probably not. The 4 pound line I use is .203mm diameter, so the 25 should hold just under 100 yards and the 20 should hold about 10 yards less. Crappie Maxx 6 pound line has a .254mm diameter and I'm guessing the size 25 will hold 80 yards and the 20 around 68 yards. So, if you're even considering 6 pound test mono, the 25 is a clear winner between the President models. The size 20 feels like a size 500 in Shimano and the 25 is similar to a size 1000 Shimano. Seriously, if the Regal had a normal depth spool, it would be the perfect option. The President does have a good reputation among panfish anglers, so it's hard to argue with. I have owned probably 9 Presidents. Two were defective. One just wasn't smooth out of the box and one was missing a screw. Easy fix to get a replacement, but that's over 10% failure rate. I should point out that these were blister packs, not boxes, so it isn't that they'd been returned and resold. I hope that helps you in your decision.

@Fishing The Midsouth thankyou very much for the input

Diawa is definitely the better buy.

@@fishingthemidsouth would 8 pound test be too much for the 25? or could i get away with it?

@@ddparker The specs say it will hold 110 yards of 8# test for the size 25, so it should be plenty of line for most panfish. If it's a 50 pound blue cat, 110 yards of 8# ain't enough. Lol. Personally, my issue with spinning reels is that I don't like thick mono. The 4# test crappiemaxx line that I use is some really strong stuff. I accidentally used the wrong spool of line and put 10# line on and my casting distance was terrible. The size of the stripper guide (the guide closest to the reel) has a lot to do with that though. A medium power rod would do better than an ultralight with 8# mono line. I do use 10# braid with my ultralight stuff if I need heavier line without the memory and diameter of mono. That's more for bass or heavy weeds though.

The 25. The 20 is closer to a size 500 in other brands.

It depends on what pound test line you'll be using and whether you'll use mono or braid, as well as how much line you want to hold. If you're wanting to do finesse presentation on braid, you could get away with a 25. If you want to use 12 pound mono, a 35 would probably be best. A size 30 might be the sweet spot though as you could run 10-15 pound braid and 10 pound mono. The 35 probably has a larger diameter spool, so if you want to use mono, the larger the line coils, the less line twist. BUT, you'll want to make sure the stripper guide is around 1/2-2/3 the size of the lip of the spool, otherwise you'll get a lot of line slap which will impact casting distance.

I'm assuming you mean the Pfluger Supreme XT rather than the GT. With all due respect, if I'm going to spend $170 on a spinning reel, it will be a Shimano or Daiwa. If you like high end gear for panfish, TroutMagnetMan loves his Japanese Domestic Marker (JDM) ultralight equipment and he swears by it. He uses some higher end equipment and you may want to check him out. I'm a value-oriented consumer as many of us are. This isn't to say that high-end reels don't have value, but at some point the price:feature ratio drops off pretty quickly. I can't see spending $170 for an ultralight reel. If I'm going to spend $170 on a reel, I can't imagine not spending another $300 for a high quality rod. With taxes, we are now over $500 on a crappie rig. My most expensive panfish rig is about $150 (Bass Pro Panfish Elite rod with a Daiwa Regal LT). I understand that some people have a passion and disposable income that allows them to go high end with their equipment, but most people are more cost conscious. One of the goals of this channel is to help people join the sport of fishing and offer some good, basic, quality equipment options and to show some upgrades along the way. I'm not sure what you mean by "Wal Mart mentality buyers", because the Pfluger President isn't the cheapest reel you can get, by far. To me, the $50-70 price point is the sweet spot right now for good value. You can get a good trade-off on weight, smoothness, quality drag, and price.

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Stop putting expensive reels on your credit cards and maxing them out. Know you can’t kept up with the interest rate 😂

Anyone who spends over $100 on any pure fishing reel is the definition of wal mart mentality. For $170 if you are buying anything other than Shimano or Daiwa you need your head examined.