Comparison: Grotrian 125 1925 and Bosendorfer 130 1993 upright pianos

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The Grotrian 125 is possibly our favorite upright piano of all time, made at the height of piano manufacturing period when knowledge, skill, and competition were at their greatest. Here we've compared it with one of our favorite modern pianos.
The conclusion we come to is that the Bosendorfer is the ideal study piano and the Grotrian like a good French wine, perfect for relaxing with after a heavy day!
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@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

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@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@fulcherpj 7 лет назад

Love the Grotrian! Like the Bosendorfer too but this comparison is a stark reminder of just how much louder modern musical instruments are expected to be these days. I guess it's partly a result of competition with all of the other sounds our ears are bombarded with in modern times. Our world was much quieter 80+ years ago! I am a pipe that organ builder and the same applies here, much larger sounds are expected from new organs compared to pre 1930 instruments. Where do we go from here though is my question?!

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

A very good observation Paul. Modern music has gotten louder, as you well know a result of radio music. As well as more strictly holding to time as metronomes were introduced and recording became exacting. Interestingly you can hear Elgar conduct Enigma Variations and the flexibility of timing stretching very freely ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kaPtKoL-FsM.html In modern music there is somewhat of a compression war, with modern musicians also concerned that music has lost its dynamics, some engineers compressing it heavily, others leaving more space for dynamics.

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@sebthi7890 Год назад

for me as a singer the competition of loudness and brilliance is so sad. Singers are forced by their teacher and so called pedagogues to sing louder and louder. The old rule, never sing louder than lovely is forgotten. It such a petty. Listening to the opera "stars" of our time, you hear these hard and stiff tone, no charm. The fitnessstudio has more importance than the piano at home for an opera singer.

@julieburton2377 3 года назад

I could listen to you all day Ty

@NandyDagondon 3 месяца назад

Glad to know family acquired one the best upright pianos in the Philippines. The brilliance is still there but it needs tuning, replacing some strings and fixing some mechanisms. Where can we order parts for the Grotrian 125? Thank you.

@RobertsPianos 2 месяца назад

Thank you for your question. The British firm Fletcher and Newman export piano parts to all countries of the world. You could try them. Marcus

@pandjichristian7872 6 лет назад

Dear Sir, I love your videos please keep them coming. Your videos just reaffirms my fondness for European pianos when I was a child. Hello from Downunder in Melbourne.

@RobertsPianos 6 лет назад

Thank you Pandji, we appreciate your kind feedback which will inspire Marcus to make more. All the best from Oxford, Evan Roberts

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@brothergoodfoot 7 лет назад

The Grotrian seems like something really special. I'm glad to discover this kind of piano, through this video (thank you!). It sounds to me as if it plays that older classical music much more soulfully than the Bosendorfer- which sounded almost shockingly bright, at first, on that low C/G 5th (playback speakers may be influencing my take). Different strokes for different folks, I know.

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@HaseDackel 7 лет назад

I don't know why, but your videos are so delightful to watch. I don't even live in Britain to ever buy a piano at your store. However how much does a used Bösendorfer upright like this cost?

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

Many thanks for your kind comments; they encourage us to make more videos! We don't give prices on our videos but you should be able to find them on our stocklist; please check the website: robertspianos.com

@Widiar0 7 лет назад

Same here. I am from Finland, but always enjoy when somebody knows his business. And I DO love pianos. It's a lot of fun to listen, learn more and also dream about a type of piano you could/would have if ever possible.

@yubbadubbadubba 7 лет назад

I agree! I'm based in the US but from Western Asia, but always find your videos informative and delightful! Also, the tone on that Grotrian is stunning!

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

Thank you for your kind comments, your comments fuel more videos! Greetings! Evan Roberts

@stevenvanstadenvanstaden4317 6 лет назад

Yes, and I'm enjoying watching and listening from S Africa. Let's hope the majority are living in the UK!

@mattgosselin6549 7 лет назад

Do you have any information about Grotrian-Steinwegs made in Holland, by chance? I think it might be an error on the seller's part, but it can't hurt to ask

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@CamelOnDirtBike 7 лет назад

is there a difference in quality between this model and the 132 model from Steinweg? Im thinking about buying the 132 model from 1930.

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

The taller piano will have longer strings and should be richer in tone, but it's really down to individual pianos; I recommend getting a good technician to check it out for you. If you've got time it would be good to try ours as it's particularly special. Marcus

@CamelOnDirtBike 7 лет назад

ok thank you for your reply! I will have a techician with me as i check it out. Unfortunately i live in sweden, otherwise i would´ve been happy to visit your store!

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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@mattgosselin6549 7 лет назад

So if I paid any attention to this video, I should go and buy the Grotrian for sale nearby for $200...

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

We recommend having it checked by a tuner who is also a technician. To look for any major faults such as a cracked tuning-pink block. A condition check first. They may also quote you for any work needed. Best wishes, Evan Roberts

@RobertsPianos 7 лет назад

There are definitely bargains to be had and top makes of older pianos are so well made. However, makes like Grotrian vary a lot, not just because some are very worn while others like the one here, hardly used. It's really this period of Grotrian, from about 1900 to 1930, which is so special. I've had post war ones that were only average, and much older ones that weren't so good. Modern Grotrians from about 1990 are also excellent but a totally different piano from the pre-war ones. Hope this helps. Marcus Roberts

@correasilvio2010 4 года назад

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