Comparison of Synthogy Ivory II Steinway D, Garritan CFX Grand and VSL Vienna Imperial 

wearing headphones can hear it so much better than the MacBook Air M2 speakers

I just used Default preset and set key sensitivity to a little bit light, if I remember correctly.

Riyandi Kusuma did you buy the full version or the light version?. Maybe that makes a difference.

The same as me. the VST sound on the computer is different from the one pressed on the piano, why is that?

@@MultiKang2 Bonjour. Avez compris d' où le problème venait ?

CFX 도 개인적으로 많이 사용한 피아노입니다. :) 처음 들었을 때, 어쿠스틱의 느낌이 묻어나던..~ 댓글 감사합니다^^

Firstly, this about touch sensitivity of your keyboard. Secondly, You should increase the bass from the settings in the application or from an external mixer and use the mids in the middle or lowered. These will soften the sound of your piano.

You will need an audio interface hooked up to your computer to reduce the latency. Your headphones and studio monitors will be also hooked up to your audio interface.

@@ItsThatJahncke2 so you must connect the piano to the audio interface with the midi cable?

@@Leuvre If you are planning on just using your piano to control a VST on your PC then you will plug your [midi cable] from your piano directly to the [PC]. You will need an audio interface hooked up to your PC to reduce latency from your VST like Keyscape, Garritan CFX, Pianoteq and ect.. If you are just planning on using VST the only thing you will be hooking up to your audio interface is a pair of studio monitors and headphones. An audio interface is very important if you plan on using virtual instruments on your PC. Hopefully this information helps you out a bit

@@ItsThatJahncke2 thanks for your answer. Not sure if I understand. I want to use the VST to record and while I record I want to hear the sound of the VST live through my headphones. So yes, reducing the latency is very important. In your answer I understand that I have to plug the midi cable straight into my computer and also hook up my audio interface to my computer . Shouldn't I connect my piano to my audio Interface, which is then connected to my computer?

@@Leuvre The only time you want to directly connect your piano to your audio interface is if you want to record the sound coming from your piano. Like that's say if you owned a Nord Piano and loved piano sounds coming out of it and you wanted to record it's sound directly into your PC. That's when you would hook up your piano directly to your audio interface. When it comes to just using your piano as a controller for VST on your PC the most common way of doing it is through a USB cable from your piano to your PC. You're PC will automatically detect your piano when you plug it in. Also when you open most VST on your PC it will know the brand name of your piano in the preference opinions. The important thing is finding the right audio interface for yourself. I personally use a RME Babyface Pro because their custom drivers offer amazing stability and some of the lowest latency in the industry.

it comes from those Programms

@@marc3260 And out of his headphones or studio monitors? I have ezkeys but in practice it doesn't sound realistic at all.

@@ratjejumbo im not 100% sure because idk his Setup but i think its the same Sound that he hears out of his headphones

@@marc3260 So how can we hear it if the sound is coming out of his headphones?

@@ratjejumbo … i mean that for example when his Headphones are plugged into his PC soundcard then Audio Input of his camera is also plugged into that same soundcard so we are Hearing the same that he hears in his headphones.

@Joe Garfield not just marketing strategy but actual sound

Il faut vraiment les posséder pour se faire un vrai avis. Je possède de nombreux vst, dont ces trois là. Le VSL impérial est clairement le meilleur sur tous les rapports une fois le casque sur les oreilles : la résonance si performante de vsl, la jouabilité est inégalée, et le sons est vraiment riche. Pour ceux qui ne peuvent pas investir dans le VSL impérial, le garritan CFX sera le meilleur choix, il est vraiment très bon.

"reconciliation" from the anime SAO. SAO's got some great OSTs, check "a tender feeling" as well ;)

German D is a part of Ivory II Grand Pianos. Thank you !

OK, thanks ArcanaShift!

Hi Frank. I have one quick question regarding the garritan samples! Is it possible to get live-output with the software? So can I connect my headphones to the PC and listen of them instead of the piano itself? Thanks a lot! :)

@@ArcanaShift Hi thanks a lot for the very kind and precious reply. Very nice indeed. I am looking for a better keyboard MIDI controller than my M-Audio Keystation 88 but i am lost in the huge number of options. This is very nice. May i ask why you have bought this one ? thanks again, gino

gino Look into the Kawai VPC1 if you havent heard of it already. I played on one once and loved it, just a suggestion :)

@@C90072 Hi Carlos thank you very much indeed for the precious advice. I had the feeling that Kawai makes great equipment. However As i am a beginner and i do not know how long the infatuation for keyboards will last i would invest less at first. I think that sound quality aside the most important factor is the action. For me the sensation of playing a real piano keyboard would be very important. I see the instrument as an input device. Maybe i will end with some SW module and a pc. But the keyboard quality and feel is what matters most to me. So i wonder with a budget around 500 USD which brand can give the keyboard most similar to an acoustic piano. A keyboard approved by a pianist let's say. Of course i understand that the real best ones comes with the TOTL models. Anyone not very expensive but particularly well built ? Or maybe you mean that the VPC1 is the level at which things become really serious ? Thanks again, gino

@@C90072 Hi Carlos it's me again. To be more clear i am looking for a poor guy VPC1. Or better to start saving for it ? Kind regards, gino

Yes, these pieces are not harmonically challenging, and any not-too-bad library would so a nice job. It's when you start playing more extended harmonies that the clashes in overtones can occur, or that certain dynamics like staccato becomes to sound more like a dry harp than a piano.

Check this guy, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PK6imaylA60.html he is using the CFX From Garritan to play Classical/Romantic pieces, he also has some Bach in there.I have the CFX and is a joy to play, i stick to practice Chopin with it and its perfect at least the top Piano vst for me, Ravenscroft is also an excellent piano but not that suitable for Classic pieces in my opinion.

Thanks for watching. I still use Synthogy only. There is no reason I don't use the rest of them, but I can safely tell you that the fact Synthogy is almost loading-free may be the reason.

ArcanaShift Music Also, have you heard the Concert Grand Compact by Production Voices. Wondering if to buy it.

garritan sure takes it sweet time to load. Around 2 minutes to load a profile on my laptop with an M2 flash SSD and 20 seconds on my desktop with a mechanical hard drive for some reason. Well worth it though. Only complaint is the treble doesn't sound to great imo. Can't wait to upgrade from a es100 to a vpc1 (or vpc2) in the near future :D

mhm... no

Jajaja mamaste

Wow what the frik guy I bet you must be miserable when you play piano

@@spada60 haha!

I know I'm late...btw it's "reconciliation" from SAO

@@tibisuperlegoarms oh!!Thank you very much(´；ω；`)

@@トリンドル佐藤 you're welcome;) SAO has very lovely OSTs,check out "a tender feeling" too! Have a nice day

@@tibisuperlegoarms I understand! I'll listen to it( ゜- ゜)つ💫 Thank you ！from japan

@@トリンドル佐藤 you're welcome! Best wishes from Rome ;)

You can purchase these products in their online stores such as garritan.com, vsl.co.at. Thanks a lot !

if I choose to buy this cfx, how can avoid the latency when playing?what equipment should I need?

You will need a fast secondary hard drive. Don't install to your system drive. The software is 50GB! I would consider a dedicated SSD for this and any future VST Sample libraries. A decent CPU. 4th Gen i7 at least. Don't go with minimum specs. You'll be sorry if you do. An audio interface with good ASIO drivers. Max your ram so that you can load the piano directly to ram rather than having to cache from the drive. Maybe that's overkill but, if you plan on using it within the context of a full mix, you will need all the oomph you can get.

Would you recommend some laptops that have the specs that you described?

@@JitinMisra Even a cheap laptop can process these audio samples, in terms of raw CPU power they don't take very much. Pretty much anything that's at least an i5 or AMD Ryzen equivalent will do the trick. However, you do definitely need a lot of RAM. The way how many sampled libraries function is they load _all_ of the samples into RAM, that way the samples can be accessed and processed by your CPU as quickly as possible. 8GB is probably not enough for most sample libraries (technically it is, but your OS and any other things you have running are going to probably be using at least half of it), 16GB would be more than enough to cover it though. If you don't have enough RAM, whatever can't be loaded in is cached on your drive. SSDs are recommended for sample libraries because they can load up into your RAM very quickly. Instead of having to wait a minute or two when changing presets or loading in new samples, you are just waiting a few seconds. Also, if your computer doesn't have enough RAM for your particular sample library, whatever can't be put in RAM is going to be cached on the drive. You will have significantly better performance if that stuff is cached on an SSD, rather than a mechanical. So in-general, it's good practice to rely on SSDs for sample libraries. Secondly, in terms of latency, the main cause of latency with MIDI-driven devices is terrible audio drivers. Even if you have more than enough RAM and your sample libraries are loaded onto a blazing fast SSD, if you're relying on the default audio drivers you will not be able to play anything back live. The default Windows audio manager is terrible and requires things to be processed through dozens of layers before it finally reaches the hardware. This results in latency that makes it completely impossible to play anything live when using a MIDI instrument to drive a VST. But there's a way around this. Many DAW softwares and standalone VSTis come with the ability to use ASIO drivers. These are selected within the DAW or VSTi as kind of a separate audio device. When these drivers are used, the latency becomes much more manageable. We're talking a difference of hundreds of milliseconds vs 5-10 milliseconds with ASIO. So, to recap: pretty much any laptop with an i5 or Ryzen equivalent, 8GB of RAM at a minimum, and an SSD. If your laptop supports multiple drives I would recommend installing a second SSD and just using that for your sample libraries. If not, use an external USB 3.0 SSD. And make sure to configure your DAW or standalone VSTi to use ASIO.

Et non, c'est tout l'inverse ! Les extraits sonores sur youtube sont trompeurs, méfiez vous...

you just described how a bosendorfer sounds in general its actually super accurate to the real thing however.

I agree with Marclee, the Bosendorfer has a unique tone to it, but that doesn't make it "poor", it's just subjective. The Bosendorfer has that Bell like sound that is more upfront and pronounced.