5 minutes in, and I already know which I'm getting. Thanks for going over the bodies of these guns, you really helped put into perspective how much more faithful the AA is.
@@blexbottt5119 Haven't yet, but it's easily the AA for me. Exterior quality and attention to detail is one of my biggest selling points when it comes to airsoft guns, and the features on the AA is both more faithful to the original and seems like it's more ergonomic to use than the AW. After some browsing, I think the AA is a bit worse off when it comes to parts compatibility. But, I can deal with that.
@@blexbottt5119 Sorry, lost the notification. But yes, you're on the right track with trying to avoid importing guns. Depending on where you live, it can be totally fine with scarcely any added cost (importing within EU for example). But if you try to, say, import from the US overseas then you can be slapped with some serious extra costs by customs. As in, a significant percentage of the cost of the gun. Living in the EU, my rule of thumb is to avoid non-EU purchases at all costs. *Especially* from the US. It can go well, but it can also not. At any rate, did you get it? As for me, I changed lanes to a Type 38 Arisaka so I'll be putting this one on hold for now. Personally I'd hold out for the AA since the difference in exterior build quality is so big, but the performance and general feel of the EMG seems good too so it's up to you really.
Good info and comparison. When it comes to the Pit Viper, I prefer the Jag. However, when it comes to the JW3 2011 Combat Master, I much prefer the EMG for replica likeness, and performance.....😁
@@mistertingy1066 i have 2 2011 combat master first i bought the jag because it was less expensive and i didn't know at the time about the EMG version,then i bought the EMG one few months later. first off the look of the jag is not as stylish as the EMG version. (even on this video the Pit Viper jag grip/stippling is so ugly compared to the EMG and the magwell also.EMG is a luxury version of the jag.not even talking' bout the Sand Viper army it doesn't even have the dual shiny tone finish on the slide.i have the Sand Viper EMG,received it 3 days ago and it's a luxury version of the jag/army,i don't even want to use it too much it's so beautiful.i would have never bought the army version - ru-vid.comICrmlLMQUys ) second the jag broke after intensive ipsc drill use,at around 8k round and wasn't working anymore,slide wasn't racking properly,getting stuck and shooting 1bb every 3 shots and no slide lock sometimes. i didn't bother fixing it because i discovered the EMG,so i gave the Jag to a friend for collection. my EMG is at 20k round of heavy use,i even dropped the gun a few times and it still works like a charm(just a nozzle change 2 days ago)and everything is working smoothly. bottom line jag 8k rounds broken EMG 20k rounds just a nozzle change and still working. so i don't get why people say that jag is better,maybe different use i guess.
I can confirm that emg pit viper suck di**. Compensator is pressed on the outer barrel. The shit fell of while shooting with a tracer on. Real 💩 Just watching a video on full take down off the AA version, confirm it's much sturdier and has better build quality than emg 💩
I have the JAG/AA Sand Viper and I have to say I don't like the lack of a memory groove or bump. If my grip isn't perfect I find the grip safety will partially engage and will interrupt my shooting. It may not be correct but I prefer the EMG/AW. I've always been happy with AW pistols.
As someone who was originally gonna get the emg or AW one (mainly for co2), this was a fantastic comparison that talked me out of it, there's probably a good (and very obvious reason) why AA doesn't make it co2
In measuring the barrels you should measure to the end of the barrel, not to the end of the compensator. In the RS gun the barrels ends before the comp. starts. I realize that AA has taken some liberties here with that black painted slightly longer inner barrel sticking out. What are the lengths of each gun and compared to the real steel one? Great detailed video!!!!!
Thanks so much. This was a very thorough and informative review comparison. I had ordered the AW but due to your review I’m going to try and get hold of the Army version. Will follow your channel on the strength of it. 😊
Update: I’ve got my grubby hands on both versions and can confirm that you are right on all counts. Although both guns are worth owning and offer a much upgraded feel and function than all of my (now so toy-like) Glock and generic replicas. Thanks again for the video.
I bought EMG pit viper ver.2024, and it's quite different from the video which is good side. -Now the mag well is the same as the real one -Rear sight also has TTI marking -the gun magazine extended longer than EMG in the video which looks close to the real one now
While they seemed to get better with the R614 and R614-1. Version 2 and Version 1 and whatever they call it in the US under JAG Precision, their lies about being TM SPEC Airsoft pistols are blatant. 3rd market compatibility is a huge trial and error process. They do perform good out of the box and get better when you get lucky with aftermarket parts. I’m talking from personal experience. Was able to upgrade the inner barrel (123 mm Unicorn, Maple Leaf hop rubber, EMG JW3 recoil spring, and Hop Chamber internals from Maple Leaf. Just recently got lucky with replacing their stock piston cap with AIP that has a better seal, getting rid of FPS inconsistencies. The loading nozzle has ZERO TM compatibility and you need to really dig for the stock nozzle availability. Not many stores carry their brand in our country due the issues with parts. I will be upgrading the nozzle spring and soon, firing parts with steel hi capa aftermarket parts. Hopefully I get lucky with those since the so called R614-1 competitive version parts are non steel. Overall, you get a good collector’s gun (PIT VIPER and SAND VIPER) at a low price but with the issues regarding parts and customer support, you end up with a fancy paperweight or display piece. Army Armament or JAG PRECISION. All the same under all the marketing hype. Buy but be prepared to hunt down compatible parts.
Lastly I went for the PIT VIPER JW4 TTI EMG, I liked it better. Apart from the fact that it has a precision cannon, that must be something insurmountable.
EMG is closest to the real TTI Pit Viper. It’s the one TTI officially licenses, that’s why the colors match closer. The white lettering isn’t on the actual Pit Viper.
10 minutes into the video proves you wrong. The EMG/AW aka WE OEM, is literally the typical WE replica. Thrown together without a care about fit & finish. Read up on them on them, and their LACK OF performance will tell you everything about the lack of quality. Just looking at them, the beavertail and frame gaps should make you steer clear of the AW/WE!
I do like the AW for the internals. I think AW makes a great HI CAPA. JAG custom is going to come with JAG custom problems. But the JAG is the nicer gun.
I would love to get one but sadly they both aren't fully TM compatible as the rear sights are different and from what I've found out the dimensions inside the housing slot is completely different from aftermarket housing and you can't upgrade the outerbarrel which is a damn shame but hop up unit can be changed but most of the internals can't as it may not function properly without them. To me I got the army Armament R501 as it can be compatible and its more reliable as you don't need a 8mm Allen tool to tight up the compensator. In my opinion your paying for a collection type not a regular usage airsoft pistol.
this is THE main reason i havent got any of them... why not make it fully TM compatible? i wanted the sand viper so bad with the option of wearing a sro was like...WOOOOW...to me. then i have found out that their not TM compatible and i held back under 🥺... i dont like when they go their own ways totally ingnoring the aftermarket scene. i build from scratch gbb custom glocks and these mostly end up in the 4 digits area and i have to say...they are also more of a display thing to me anyways...so i know what you mean😂 i dont have a problem with just looking at it...too expensive to run em down...lol.
I've been waiting for a comparison review, thanks! I have the Army version, and waiting on the EMG to arrive. I definitely think the Army looks better, but the size issue is a deal breaker for me, and I'll probably lean towards the EMG If it shoots alright. Have you compared the two on performance?
I've shot both the Army and EMG from distances of 3m up to 15m at the range doing various target drills from the holster. The performance of both pistols is actually about the same. Both have similar accuracy and both seem reliable. I've put about 2,000rds through the Army so far and about 200to to 300rds through the EMG.
That's good to know. What about efficiency on gas? I know the AW combat master held more gas than the Army and was wondering if these models were similar
Actually according to my understanding the Army version has the correct length while the EMG is too long. Barrel length is suppose to be measured from the breach to the end of the barrel. But in this video he measured to the end of the compensator, which is incorrect. The measurement should end at the the start of the compensator. With that in mind, the Army version measures at exactly 5 inches while the EMG is 0.5 shorter Unless the 5 inch is measurement including compensator. Then the EMG would be correct.
That aw one compensator lock on the outerbarrel is a copyright as army Armament has the same but on a costa r501 and r601. What is the aw compensator thread that screws on the outerbarrel? Is it a 16mm,14mm or 12mm??
Thank you for this comparison video. I settled down on army armament. Im not a huge fan of john wick. But ive been curious how jw4 pit viper feels. In this case i chose army armament over emg. Choosing the nearest model to real steel is the best thing to choose. What i get is R614-1 i duno whats the difference between R614.
there are 2 versions of AA pit viper, but it's just minimal, high end is a metal slide the other one is not. also the grip it's different than the lower version.
@@arwinmeister710 the diference is there is a line in the grip where it bends on the corners. And there is no stipling under the triger guard. And the finish of the seration is not that glossy. But it still feels great shoot great
Hey man I can only get my hands on the emg version of this gun as the army is not available here but my concern is I heard some said that the emg is not made of real steel and the jag ones are…is it true? And should I still buy it?
When the 2011 JW3 came out I tried both the JAG and the EMG. I ended up buying the EMG as it felt better in the hand and looked more realistic than the JAG and seemed better shooting out the box in the end I've ended up keeping the EMG boxed and I bought a JAG as a skirmish gun 😂
The Army (JAG) Pit Viper is longer than the real gun. It's similar to 2011 Combat Master length. But all other details are correct. The EMG (AW) Pit Viper is the correct length same as the real gun. However, many other details are incorrect, such as the grip safety shape, the magazine well (the EMG has a larger competition mag well instead of the correct smaller carry mag well), the compensator design how it attaches to the outer barrel.
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Which of the two is more consistent in terms of gas efficiency & accuracy sir...? They say that Army loading Nozzle is proprietary...is there truth to it?
The Army Sand Viper nozzle is proprietary. But as far as I know and I've heard the Army Pit Viper nozzle is TM spec. But I haven't tried changing it myself.
Both Army (JAG) and AW (EMG) seem about equally gas efficient. And both seem to have similar accuracy. However, I haven't shot them for groups on paper targets yet. I mostly shoot metal targets out to 15m. Both can easily hit a 6 inch metal disc at 15m. I'll do some paper target grouping tests later.
Biased Army JAG Fanboy. Even though the AW isn't completely TTI Correct. You should be as a proper non Biased Reviewer able to mention at least 1 Positive thing about the AW. For AW to be 70% priced under the JAG. They did a fairly good job. Best GBB Price point, with at least a small sense of hope being JW in the field, Sorry, you ain't worth a Subscribe. The Review Feels Rigged 😓😖
