Comparison review: Klipsch RP-5000F vs. JBL Stage A170 tower speakers

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My Klipsch RP-5000F CNET review, It’s $750 a pair,www.cnet.com/n...
Its claimed frequency response 35 Hz to 25 kHz ± 3dB
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Its claimed frequency response 44 Hz to 44 kHz
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@Sampardhanani 5 лет назад

You are a genuine person Mr Guttenberg. Love your evaluation on audio and products in general. Thanks

@jameswheeler7679 4 года назад

Another great Klipsch review I currently have all Klipsch bookshelf speakers and I am very satisfied for now

@papua5028 5 лет назад

There are so many good sounding speaker in the market, that you couldn't go wrong buying any of them, but there is something about the aesthetics of the Klipsch's speakers that draws me to them. The color scheme are just beautiful. The copper woofers staring at you, draws the attention of most who visited me. From family, friends and the internet/cable technicians, to the furniture delivery guys. Everyone complements my speakers setup as soon they walk in my theater and audio listening area. They also sound good. When i close my eyes they make me feel as if i were in front of the stage of a live concert, something that i dont get from other very good sounding speaker that just feel as you were in front of a set of speakers.

@scottyo64 5 лет назад

When I bought my RF7 IIs and RC64 II, what sold my wife was the Cherry wood and the copper woofers. Even though they are massive she still likes the looks but perfers the grills on now. Makes them a little less "in your face" so to speak.

@blainechambers5854 5 лет назад

I just purchased Marantz PM8006 integrated amplifier and also the Klipsch RP5000F. So many reviewer's liked the RP600M that I felt that I could not go wrong. After listening to several speakers of the same size, I'm very happy with the Klipsch.

@dalstar925 3 года назад

The 5000f absolutely SMOKES the 600m. I have both at the moment and I’m sending the 600’s back. I can’t believe the 5000’s don’t get more love. You made the right choice...which I’m sure you know by now lol

@dr.anthonyforgione4253 5 лет назад

Yes! Thank you for reviewing TOWER, FLOOR STANDING speakers!

@TWiiZA 5 лет назад

I bought the the RP-8000F (+Yamaha AS501) after I heard the RP-600M. I don't have much experience with speakers, but i own a few $1000ish headphones. I'm so blown away with the sound that I haven't touched any pair of cans at home since these 60lbs big boys became part of my furniture.

@AdrianIII 5 лет назад

Thanks for this. MORE comparison reviews, please!

@skipgordon5382 5 лет назад

Dynamics is the description I find the most impressive with Klipsch. Useful review.

@Monkeyseemonkey79 5 лет назад

Steve - thank you for doing this comparison! This is extremely insightful.

@patrickobryon6839 4 года назад

Thanks for all the great information, your videos are very helpful. Now I guess the question is the 5000F or the 6000F

@HardikDesai86 Год назад

did you find out the answer?

@peterschattmann8298 5 лет назад

OK Steve, time to step up to the 8000F. It would be awesome if you could pit them against one or two competitors. Cheers bro.

@TWiiZA 5 лет назад

I humbly second this request

@powerget23 5 лет назад

@stevebradford4577 5 лет назад

One more vote for the 8000F comparison.

@chrisd6736 5 лет назад

I would also love a video on the 8000Fs as I just bought a pair lol.

@andris788 5 лет назад

I'd love an 8000F vs 5000F!

@jameslawrence4788 2 года назад

Hi Steve, I really appreciate your reviews. Moreover, I truly appreciate the fact that you cover the entire price spectrum of quality audio. I remember reading your reviews (in some obscure audio magazine) from the early 90’s and looking forward to each monthly issue and the wonders they would provide, affordable and unattainable (for me). The RU-vid format has certainly given you more flexibility in what you review and has improved your content imho. That’s not a knock on the former magazine at all, they do a decent job as well, even now. Glad you are still doing this.

@davidhaggerty9850 5 лет назад

The obvious reasoning behind ports is to tune an enclosure to a certain frequency which is derived through various parameters specific to your drivers and how much air they can move and the volume of air in the space in which they are enclosed. The tuning is then achieved through selecting the appropriate area the port's exit and it's length. In this case, your question being about the shape of the port, less obviously known/or considered is that large enough volume of air leaving a port at a high enough velocity will cause an audible distortion in certain scenarios that is commonly called "chuffing" if I'm not mistaken. This is frequently mitigated by using tapered entries and exits to the port as the chuffing occurs when the air strikes a corner/edge. Tuning enclosures is always a balancing act between geometric limitations and maintaining fidelity and tone. I'm guessing the JBL having/needing 2 smaller ports instead of one larger one is the 2.5 way design causing the 2 woofers to need/benefit from separate air spaces since they're handling different loads and of dynamic and spectral content in response to how they're crossed over. Just some stuff to keep in your back pocket.

@saquibhussain6000 5 лет назад

Steve, Always enjoy your nice and no nonsense reviews. Could you please compare these to the JBL Studio 590? Would really like your take on those JBLs.

@amadensor 5 лет назад

Interesting that the JBL is an aluminum dome tweeter and the Klipsch is titanium. JBL did titanium domes for decades.

@mrbryanmarshall 5 лет назад

Hi Steve. My friend has the Klipsch 6000 version of these. Hear what you're saying, they were very fast, lots of sharp edges, very precise, like you said. But, after a few months now, he has said that they have chilled out a bit and are now a bit warmer, fuller, sharp edges sanded off, but still has all that amazing detail.

@TheHammerofDissidence 5 лет назад

Same thing happened with my 160s. The bass in particular improved and the tiny bit of harshness from the tweeter calmed down.

@regorsanera2052 5 лет назад

@@TheHammerofDissidence i have noticed the same thing with my 160m. when i first bought it i really dont like the sound of it too harsh and bright but after giving it some time it is now sweet sounding to my ears and got more pleasant to my ears it turned out to be full and warm paired with yamaha as 801.

@sanonmars 5 лет назад

So is it that harshness calmed down but still bright?

@Carl-bd1rf 5 лет назад

sanonmars My 160’s aren’t bright depending on amp. Smooth on my sr-6009 Marantz Edgy on my cr-2020 Yamaha Smooth on my sta-2200 Realistic mosfet amp Smooth on my EL34 tube amp from Will Vincent.

@sanonmars 5 лет назад

@carl Thanks. So my Wharfedale D220 are more suited to my Yamaha RXV677. So upgrading to Horn based or metal Tweeters may sound bright on Yamaha. So if I have to upgrade say like Klipsch or SVS speakers then Marantz or Denon should be better.

@pdcragin33 5 лет назад

Thanks for this. More comparisons please!

@ritrambo 4 года назад

I own a pair of RP 6000fs hooked up in my living room as a 2.0 setup for 50/50 music and tv and I can tell you that these speakers can rock, and do not miss a subwoofer with these. Previously I owned a pair of vintage Polk monitor 5s and the Klipsch are a huge step up, very dynamic and lively speakers.

@67amko 4 года назад

The number one, most immediately noticeable (and best) quality of the JBL Stage A190 speakers is the profoundly good 3D imaging. It’s remarkable because that’s supposed to be that big difference between the super high-end and affordable speakers. You’re supposed to have to spend megabucks before you get truly well-behaved speakers that project a 3D soundfield with tremendous precision. Here, you get that “high-end audio hologram effect” with $1000 per pair speakers. That’s less than the sales tax on speakers I’ve heard, that were no better at imaging, and I’d love to see how a number of those speakers would fare in a blind listening test - against these floorstanders. In conclusion, you do not need fancy materials and high prices to create a pair of extremely competent tower speakers that do just about everything a audio enthusiast could want. Simply put, an aluminum dome tweeter and a pair of polycellulose woofers can do really good work together if you get the cabinet, waveguide and crossovers right. In recent years JBL has shown that it’s got a good bead on how to build a good waveguide and that’s apparent when you hear these towers. JBL Stage A190 speakers clearly demonstrate that good engineering can deliver exceptional audio performance that’s also affordable. If they size and the looks of these speakers agree with your aesthetic sensibility and domestic reality, then giving a pair of these A190s an audition is a good idea. Of course, if you're dead set on Klipsch, well, more power to you as well. I've enjoyed and listened to both - like Steve.

@TheProspectVideo 2 года назад

Steve, good review. I would really love to hear what you think of the JBL studio 5 series speakers sometime. I believe they are way above the Stage line in performance but not so much in cost when on sale. You should really give them a listen if you haven’t yet.

@marksmithers9779 5 лет назад

Thank you Steve you made my day! Have a nice Sunday

@F3Y3F3 5 лет назад

I'm curious as to why you didn't compare the Klipsch to the Stage A190, as they're much closer in price point.

@67amko 4 года назад

True that, having just bought a pair of Stage A190s (USD MRP 1000 on the JBL website, obviously cheaper elsewhere online). Reference Steve's review of the A170: having tested (prior to subsequent purchase) the flagship A190s vis-a-vis the Klipsch RP 5000F, the A190s ( the entire JBL Stage line, in fact) offers tremendous bang for the buck at nearly half the price, while sounding a tad more refined on the high end (excellent crisp reproduction, lovely texture), thanks to the horn tweeter design (JBL terms it 'high definition imaging wave guide'), and phenomenal mid-bass thanks to the 'long-excursion powered subwoofer' (stop me if I'm regurgitating JBL's marketing copy) . But the number one, most immediately noticeable (and best) quality of these speakers is the profoundly good 3D imaging. It’s remarkable because that’s supposed to be that big difference between the super high-end and affordable speakers. You’re supposed to have to spend megabucks before you get truly well-behaved speakers that project a 3D soundfield with tremendous precision. Here, you get that “high-end audio hologram effect” with $1000 per pair speakers. That’s less than the sales tax on speakers I’ve heard, that were no better at imaging, and I’d love to see how a number of those speakers would fare in a blind listening test - against these floorstanders. In conclusion, you do not need fancy materials and high prices to create a pair of extremely competent tower speakers that do just about everything a audio enthusiast could want. Simply put, an aluminum dome tweeter and a pair of polycellulose woofers can do really good work together if you get the cabinet, waveguide and crossovers right. In recent years JBL has shown that it’s got a good bead on how to build a good waveguide and that’s apparent when you hear these towers. JBL Stage A190 speakers clearly demonstrate that good engineering can deliver exceptional audio performance that’s also affordable. If they size and the looks of these speakers agree with your aesthetic sensibility and domestic reality, then giving a pair of these A190s an audition is a good idea.

@glocksout 3 года назад

The Stage A190 is a dual 8" tower, so the A170 is a more direct comparison.

@67amko 3 года назад

@C Burgess Hi. The A190s are around 48 inches in height, plus another inch and a quarter since they are currently on outriggers on a tiled surface, so no spikes - since we need our rooms to be as cool as possible, given our Indian summers. I happen to be tall, and usually sit on an armchair. Still, I would say that my ears would be 4-5 inches below the wave guides (horn tweeters?). More importantly, my room, while not quite an acoustic nightmare, is forgiving and the first thing I did after getting the A190s was to add the JBL Stage A120P subwoofer. I'm a bit of a basshead, so I can live with a bit of distance between the height of my ears and the tweeters. Hope this helps.

@cory3685 2 года назад

@C Burgess how have the A180 been in your opinion?

@girirajdhyani4661 2 года назад

@@67amkohey amit how do the a180 and a170 compare to the a190?

@HanifBarnwell 5 лет назад

Timely video, secondly I appreciate your reviews & insight

@alexanderscott3790 5 лет назад

I think id prefer the dynamic transparency of klipsch, and i can tune tune sound to tast to warm things up, bring out the mid bass, etc. Klipsch.. great tool! Btw, setip is VERY important with klipsch beamy propegating presentation

@tomhohum4275 5 лет назад

I bought the JBL Stage A170 this week on your recommendation for my basement gym, which is pine paneled. Hooking it up to an OLD Electron Kinetics Eagle 2 which I have had re-capped. Also in there is a Tandberg 2045 FM receiver and an NAD player and an old Sony powered subwoofer. Needs new speaker cables now. Qunite a mish-mash!! We’ll see what combination works for the best sound when I’m working out😂

@alfa71omega 5 лет назад

Great review and great that you like klipsch. Not so many Audiophiles like Klipsch. I see you have the Forte III behind the JBL. I'm waiting for your review. I own the Forte III and in my system they sound amazing, deep clear punchy imaging. Please review them|! Thanks from "that little old" country ....Italy

@tawaunwilliams7002 4 года назад

Me myself I'm officially locked into the Horn game now...the only Speakers I'm interested in is Klipsch, JBL, Tannoy, Triangle, and Fyne Audio as my main speakers...with a lil sprinkle of Ohm Walsh which I grew up on Open Baffles, single driver speakers and other high efficiency designs like Tekton and Zu...😉

@motorpsykler 5 лет назад

Thanks for this review, Steve. I m in the market for this class of speaker. I'm leaning toward the JBL based on your review. I'm as impressed as the next guy by punchy speakers but I fatigue very easily. I'm thinking the JBL's might extend my listening enjoyment time.

@Audiovont 8 месяцев назад

What amp you are using with the A190s?

@khalid969 5 лет назад

I've always wondered if variants from the same speaker manufacturer all sound just as good, or just as bad, for that matter. It seems to me that you like the RP-5000F just as much as you do the RP-600M.

@Cujobob 5 лет назад

Typically, the same line of speakers will sound very similar as it uses similar drivers and the crossover was designed by the same person/people. The polar response will vary because multiple drivers adds in other pros and cons and interacts with the room differently than would a simple two driver design.

@khalid969 5 лет назад

@@Cujobob I actually had to look up polar response to fully understand what you were saying. I learned something new today. Thanks for your input.

@lukpl422 3 года назад

i just bought klipsch pair for 500 usd and i`m in love whit them, i was always sleeping with earplugs, now i`m going to sleep listening to beautiful music, if u reading this because u`r thinking about buying those speakers, buy them, its worth it, speakers play beautifully, they are beautiful, loud and clean sound, with i like most, i`m sorry, i`m simply in love 🥰😁

@AlanBCDang 4 года назад

You should try out the Studio 530, 590 setup. Discontinued but somehow always available from Harman directly. One of the last if not the last consumer speaker from Greg Timbers

@williekenk 5 лет назад

This seems like a pretty significant change of sound signature for JBL from just a few years ago. I know they’ve swapped out some designers, so it makes sense, but still a little surprising.

@Cujobob 5 лет назад

Current designs seem to focus on controlled directivity more than previous designs, this is a good thing.

@59seank 5 лет назад

Steve, I hope you review the Klipsch Cornwall III. I'd also like to know how these two towers compare to the Forte you have.

@astolatpere11 5 лет назад

Thanks for this review.

@danedewaard8215 4 года назад

I was wondering if you had ever considered allowing us, your subscribers, to sample the speakers that you test. You could do this by setting up a reusable test area by defining the test speaker locations and the sampling microphone location (monaural would be the least complicated) in that test area. You choose about 3 different pieces of reference music, approximately 1 - 2 minutes long each that would be used for each speaker test. The HQ microphone, media playback device, pre-amp, amp, cables, and test speaker / microphone placement would all be the same for each test speaker recording. A reference test tone of approximately 1000 Hz would have to be played though each set of test speakers while adjusting the amplifier volume so that the VU indictors on the recording device was the same for every set of test speakers (maybe “0” VU). This would compensate for the differences in test speaker efficiencies. The recording device’s controls would also have to be logged and setup to be the same for each test speaker recording. The three pieces of reference music would then be recorded and attached to your review. We could playback recordings of as many test speakers as we like from your reviews, for comparison. You might say: “how will this allow the subscribers to hear the differences between the test speakers?” Well, as long as we compare the different test speaker recordings on our speakers the same way every time, we will be able to get a better taste of the sound coming from the speakers that you are reviewing! It will not be exactly like standing in front of the review speakers but will allow a fairly good comparison, especially if we play back these test recordings on our AUDIOPHILE SYSTEMS! Thanks for all the good videos!!!

@walterkasper467 5 лет назад

Witch one sounds better at low volume Thanks for the great videos

@doogaltube7103 5 лет назад

Interesting review. If you’ve ever auditioned my speakers (Royd Minstrels) I’d be very interested to hear how these two compare/ improve on mine.

@myplacerighthear3691 10 месяцев назад

One thing I discovered about 15 years ago which if you can afford to do this and you listen to a lot of music you should do this which is. Brian speakers that give you the ability to listen to what you like to listen to through a particular speakers so if let's say you like a really good keyboard and piano maybe you'd want the JBL stage setup on the other hand if you like really good heavy guitar you might choose the clips 8000 F series And then again if you're into more orchestral type music you might want to choose the banging all of a sudden 89 saucer speakers in pairs which can be fairly expensive but they are so worthwhile if you're not listening to heavy percussion associated.. I guess what I'm saying is that if you can afford to do so separate speakers for separate Vikings in your music library it's not so strange to sit in a room witha full series of 79 speakers split up into three different manufacturers so a set of nine speakers from one company a set of 9 for another company and a set of nine speakers from you yet a third company because they all sound different and they all do a great job at listening to certain pieces of music from your library so why not do that all you need is a speaker switcher and you can still use the same amplifier preamplifier or forever that you originally bought to be Happy Wheels here's a piece of very good advice the most important piece in your audio system is the speaker system so choose your speakers first then by your amplifier then by your preamplifier then or by your AVR and make sure that it has approximately twice the amount of wattage available over and above with the speakers is capable of handling to get the best possible sound from the speakers that you've chosen in remember one last very important thing all your speakers must be all either 4 ohm or 8 ohm never mix 4 ohm and 8 ohm speakers in the same set as 9 speakers using one individual AVR amplifier it will harm your AVR and definitely destroy your amplifier..this is very good advice I would suggest that you use it

@Brantflash 5 лет назад

Hi Steve, I'm a big fan of your channel. Are you ever going to review the Klipsch R28 floor standing speaker??

@Bob.martens 3 года назад

I have klipsch rp150m that I love. I even prefer them over my new ls50metas... I'm eyeing the rp5000f, because I want that 150 sparkle with extended downrange, and don't like subs (yet). This a good idea?

@petersouthernboy6327 5 лет назад

Waveguides of the world unite !

@carlfrancisbowles1 2 года назад

I'm running an Adcom 2535 and a Parasound line drive preamp, my RP-5000F's are clean and crisp even at low volume!

@HAYUPAKARINGID 5 лет назад

Klipsch 5000f wins!! Cause I have a pair of them for my home theater set up😛😁😁 Seriously Klipsch are the best,after all they are the keepers of the sound Cheers brother🙏🏼❤️❤️ I’m a subscriber 🤓

@dr.anthonyforgione4253 5 лет назад

MY BETLOG Mm, Klipsch horns are not... always so nice sounding. Sometimes they are harsh, incongruent, and loud.

@michaelwhiteside2875 5 лет назад

MY BETLOG only for home theater

@sabastiantaylor7209 4 года назад

I would really like to see klipsch do a 3rd woofer and cross it over as a 2.5. Keep the 2 subwoofers for bass because I think they have great bass with good quality power my 8’s get a lot of deep bass response however adding a 3rd subwoofer and crossing it over as a mid speaker I think would really bring the klipsch up in refinement. It would really help address what I feel is lacking on a klipsch speaker and add to making it a more refined speaker. If you think the new klipsch series is bright. You really need to break them in with a minimum of 50 hours and you will hear a big change. I would hope they would keep their liveliness even by adding a solid mid range speaker.

@nathanjones4039 5 лет назад

Maybe you could do some reviews of the new KLH audio towers, inquisitive on your opinion on those.

@trekjudas 5 лет назад

I like your channel a lot. I watch Paul McGowan’s RU-vid channel and he kinda makes you feel ashamed if you don’t own a $5000 DAC!

@harleyguy071 4 года назад

If you do your research you don't have to spend that to get to top end DAC, in today's world with the options for digital playback there are a few giant killer Dac's out there, I have one of them and I would put it up against anything and I feel it would hold its own

@williamtomkiel8215 5 лет назад

Does the shape of the port make a difference . . .wrt to friction, turbulence close the wall? in a corner? How FAR from the wall? Size of the Room? and other rabbit hole considerations . . . here's a hint: REW is free

@bigjay1970 5 лет назад

Well Steve, you have now officially gone over the edge and are giving people what they want content wise.🤓😬 lJust bought the JBL 590’s with compression tweeter and I am in AWW! This Stage speaker does not have a compression driver and is far, far inferior! These JBL Speakers seem like kids toys compared to the Studio 5 line up! Greg Timbers surely didn’t design these! I wonder who taught me about compression tweeters?🤔🤔🤫🤫🤓🤗 You 🧖‍♂️ Along with Mr. Zeos and Tharbamar! The key word here is compression tweeter, the horn just makes the sound more spacial and what a horn this Studio series 5 has! Can’t believe that speaker was out in 2011. What a horrible job JBL’s marketing department did with that Studio 5 speaker line. It surely wasn’t Elac’s or Klipsch’s way of doing things!😱😂🤪😎

@cafe80s 5 лет назад

Harman's marketing is terrible... I'm always saying that... They've got the best stuff and no body knows!

@bigjay1970 5 лет назад

@@cafe80s Listening to my speakers right now! I just don't get the problem with their marketing of this particular product. I mean I am picky as Shit and these things kick Ass and look great with covers on!🤗😎😁

@jctrox8461 5 лет назад

Please do a comparison in the future of the new KLH albany and kendall models. Another question, why don't you ever do vintage audio shootouts as well? Dynaco a25 vs klh model 6 and so forth etc?

@calvinnapier9977 5 лет назад

Enjoy your videos Steve! I know there is better but I've been using JBL E80 Northridge towers for about 4 years. Sometime in the future can you give your opinion on the turntable weight that sits on the record?

@bthellam 5 лет назад

Thank you, Steve! I read your written review before I found the video. I've been trying to compare the RP-4000f with the RP-5000f soundwise. No luck. Has you been able to hear the RP-4000f?

@benholdeman174 4 года назад

I am wondering the same thing. I would love a comparison review of the rp-4000f and either the rp-5000f or the 600m.

@timeshaft5088 4 года назад

Crutchfield.com let’s you listen to different speakers to compare them based on your headphone type

@jamesflaherty8739 Год назад

I have the RP-4000f and am moving up to the RP-5000f so pretty soon if I remember I will post a quick take on the difference.

@raffiequler7510 5 лет назад

I love Steve and I'm listening to this video on my PSB Image 4T speakers. A great pair of floorstanders from the year 2000. And yes, I bought them brand new 19 years ago. I will never part with them.

@kohnfutner9637 5 лет назад

Match made in Paradise.

@bobidderis3880 3 года назад

I think I might go for Klipsch. Coz my AT screen need lots of upper strength frequency to be able to penetrate it. I think Klipsch sound will mellowed out couples with my AT screen.

@salmonline 5 лет назад

Steve - In the very early 80s I had a B.I.C turntable. It had touch pad controls and and digital display,it came with a long spindle for turning it into a record changer. It had a computer in it that allowed you to control the speed. Never seen one since even with the internet. Had you ever seen it back in the day?

@Bernard-John 5 лет назад

hi good video,BUT YOU NEED A BIGGER APARTMENT,keep up the good work.

@johnsweda2999 5 лет назад

Why don't you do the tannoy Revolution xt6f about $600, same as these speakers, you seem to be bias towards American equipment, I never see you viewing foreign equipment why is this. I'd like to hear and see how the tannoys compare to these two. I don't think anybody has done all three together, anybody knows leave me a link

@dropthehammer1360 5 лет назад

John sweda I haven’t heard either of these two but I absolutely love my XT 6Fs.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 5 лет назад

I've reviewed the Harbeth P3 ESR, Spendor, Dynaudio, plenty more non US speakers. Tannoy? Their US distribution sucks.

@johnsweda2999 5 лет назад

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac ok, I'm sure you can get a pair on loan somewhere , what about guy at upscale audio he is a distributor for tannoy

@doogaltube7103 5 лет назад

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac I run a Tannoy 12” 150w active sub wired into my Royd Minstrels. Works really well for movies from a 55” Samsung LED, optical out to a Schiit Modi 2 Uber into a NAD C320 amp. Definitely the biggest problem in the audio world here in the U.K. is the disappearance of listening room audio stores. More important than trying on clothes for size is listening to audio gear before you buy.

@tawaunwilliams7002 5 лет назад

The xt6f is twice the price of these speakers new it's 3 times the price of the a170....

@eastendphotographer428 3 года назад

Hi Steve I always appreciate your reviews and your expertise. You and I are probably around the same age so I feel that you can answer a lot of questions that the younger folks can’t because they weren’t around the times of the products that I grew up with were available so here’s my question I recently restored an old pioneer SX 1080 and a Sansui G 8000 I am reforming a pair of pioneer HPM 1100 speakers and I also own a pair of older JBL monitors and some advent speakers. I’ve recently purchased a new home and want to step up to more modern equipment including perhaps some surroundsound gear but my heart is really into vintage sound records and the like I own tape decks and a real to reel. Based on what I have said in the equipment I’ve described in my age what kind of experience well I have with purchasing new equipment such as the new speakers And the newer amplifiers will I be blown away or is the old equipment still have merit in its own right in terms of sound quality and experience

@miketurner6118 5 лет назад

Thanks Steve I was looking at the Klipsch speakers when I ran across the new Andrew Jones designed AP-FS52 speakers and bought a pair.....couldn't be happier, they totally blew me away and fir 89 bucks a piece...come on that's just nuts Now...im still wanting a pair of Klipsch so this review helped convince me they will be different enough to complement each other,. I think my Pioneers would be similar to the JBLs

@j.craigh.3480 4 года назад

I’d Like to hear your thoughts on the are P 8000 F as well

@christophermcmichael880 5 лет назад

I have a pair of Klipsch RF-8000f's dedicated for music and a pair of RP-6000f's and RP-600c for hometheater, not quite done with my set up yet. I'm leaning towards RP-502s for my surrounds. Anyhow, I love the way my RP-8000f's sound. With my music. I have noticed that they can get a little bright, but I also noticed that it depended on how the music was recorded. I listen to CD's and different Cd's can sound different, some are louder and some are softer. My speakers are also in Walnut finish. I chose the walnut to break away from the consistant black finish.

@divertiti 5 лет назад

Do you feel there's significant difference in sound between the 8000F and the 6000F in the same system?

@glennh7297 5 лет назад

I just ordered a pair of the Studio 590's, for 450 per,..1/2 off, with a 20% coupon code. Can't wait to see how they stack up to my Chorus ll's. Have you listened to the 590's?

@carlosduran8395 5 лет назад

Honest review: Both are excellent speakers for me,which is better, it is impossible to say. but each one has the signature of the manufacturer: Klipsch: Loud , dynamic with a tendency to highs. JBL: Natural Sound, tight bass, quick response. It is a matter of personal preference. JBL Studio 570 would be the ideal comparison but are discontinued Thanks to share.

@tawaunwilliams7002 4 года назад

The rp line is considerably better than the Stage line....the build quality even tells the the tell the RP lines build is much more high-end...this really isn't a contest the Stage a170 should be compared to the r610f...the RP line at it's price even the tax tariff price doesn't really even have a direct competitor...😉

@ivanbarrett1 2 года назад

@@tawaunwilliams7002 In the UK the Klipsch RP5000F retail for £979.00 and the JBL Stage A170 for £349.00 a pair. If I going to spend around £1000 on floor standers I would go for the Wharfedale Evo 4.4. great sound, and beautiful real wood veneer finish. They retail at, £1200, but I have seen them drop to £1000 during sales/promotions etc.

@troybrownentertainment2324 5 лет назад

Steve can you review the JBL STAGE A190 tower ? Deciding if I should get it but I don't see any reviews on that speaker whatsoever even on AVS Forum

@raffiequler7510 5 лет назад

Troy, why don't you review the A190? Is it really reasonable to expect Steve to review every model in the series?

@troybrownentertainment2324 5 лет назад

@@raffiequler7510 First of all smartass I was not talking to you, second Steve already reviewed the Stage A130 speaker as well so yeah it is reasonable for Steve to review the A190 speaker's. Thank you

@raffiequler7510 5 лет назад

@@troybrownentertainment2324 I know it hurts when your lazy, ignorant ass hears the truth. Bye bye.

@troybrownentertainment2324 5 лет назад

@@raffiequler7510 You the only one that is ignorant and talking shit. Get out of here and don't come back smart ass

@Bloodmoon1985 4 года назад

Well idk if this helps but I own the Stage A130’s and they have the exact same characteristics as the Stage A170’s as Steve describes. However I own the Stage A190’s as well and they have similar warm sound signature but they are extremely dynamic. In fact is almost puzzling to me how different they sound in comparison to the A130 bookshelves

@garybarnhill4171 4 года назад

So do you like the Rp600m with a subwoofer better than these towers and to keep it fair a $250 sub??

@1999zrx1100 5 лет назад

They both look amazing for the $

@CrankMaster 5 лет назад

Please make review about yamaha speakers

@pennfootball71 5 лет назад

it would be more fun to compare the JBL L100 to the Heresy III or Forte III

@BunnyFooFnFoo 5 лет назад

The L100s/L112s are power hungry (91/89 DB). The brutish efficiency of the Heresys (99 db) make short work of the JBLs in all conditions except "mosh pit" volume levels. I owned L112s and sold them when I bought Herseys. Quite literally, the Herseys sip powe while blasting sound where the L100s need 10x the power to make the same sound levels. As I mentioned, the Herseys were awesome when they were moderately loud. The JBLs were really loud but it took a subwoofer and a 1kW amp to get there.

@tsamplifiers6493 5 лет назад

@@BunnyFooFnFoo Is it all about volume?

@BunnyFooFnFoo 5 лет назад

@@tsamplifiers6493 Nope, not at all. Volume is not fidelity but to a speaker that needs power to smooth out its sound, the lack of input power trashes the sound. You saw the part where 10w into the Klipsch produces the same sound pressure level as 100W into the JBLS. At 10W the 250W/ch Yamaha amp had plenty of headroom. To play at the same level, the JBM would be producing 1KW transients. The JBLs sounded like crap at low to mid volume (to me) and the Klipsch sounded great (to me) at anything but extreme volume levels. I've owned both the L112 and the Hersey. I had them in the same room at the same time. 4312/L100 speakers were nowhere as sweet as the L112s, that is why I got the L112s.

@gregserna963 5 лет назад

My whole speaker system is "Klipsch", pricey but Worthy!!!

@ten787 5 лет назад

Play some pink noise for us through each speaker to demonstrate the claimed tonality differences. Use the same speaker and microphone positions and match midrange levels to make it interesting. Include disclaimers - the microphone is crap, RU-vid audio is heavily compressed, nothing reproduced sounds anything like the real thing, and so forth. It would be harmless fun and a reason for me to watch a video.

@hifitommy 5 лет назад

whereas i have heard Klipsch similar or the same as the ones reviewed and was quite surprised at that, i am interested in hearing the JBLs for reference. i am not in the market but i love to be able to recommend things to my friends that are good to great at decent prices. of late, i have been recommending the ELACs and have had very positive comments from those who bought them and there have been two who have done so. JBL was never on my list because of the L100s and 4310s with their boomy bass and tizzy highs. with the synthesis series, it's another story and they are quite pricy. they are now essentially flat from top to their healthy bottoms. i am encouraged that they came around with their affordable speakers but the new L100, with its much better overall sound, still hangs on to some of its fatness, and they ARE $4k! it is equally or more encouraging that the Klipsch have gotten to be more amenable to the audio enthusiast's liking by diverging from the colored midrange of their older horn based systems. and yes, i realize that dynamics are a factor that ranks up there with the flatter frequency response held in such favor by we audiophiles. the pro guys gravitate toward the dynamics and that includes Zu speakers. give me a pair of the Ocean Way floor standers which are both truly flat and also truly dynamic. the $30k cost is a limiting factor even though it includes amplification. things are better in audioland these days. thanks for the insights. ...hifitommy

@mmdusa 5 лет назад

Quick query Steve... Does that Schiit Vidar belong to you or do you have to send it back? I ask because if it is yours then that means you really like it and I should seriously consider getting one or two. Thanks for the great videos!

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 5 лет назад

It went back, I don't keep over 90% of what I review!

@78sound 5 лет назад

Steve is a national treasure

@michaelkropp2003 5 лет назад

Hi Steve, I have a pair of original Heresy speakers (purchased in 1985). Could you do a compare between some of the Klipsch Heritage Line and their newer speakers?

@johngkotsis4408 3 месяца назад

Between the JBL Stage 170 and Klipsch R820f which is the best mostly for home theater use? (same price here in Greece)

@sergeauclair2397 5 лет назад

Hi Steve! Since you like great piano recordings I'd like to bring Marc-André Hamelin to your attention providing you don't already know him. I thought perfection wasn't of this world but after listening to MAH I am beginning to believe that sometimes it is.

@ianyates7742 5 лет назад

Hi Steve pleas review q aquatics 2050 I tower speakers. You have reviewed the book shelf’s but not the towers as far has I know 😎

@MinusTwoTonsils 2 года назад

Can you compare the stage a170 to the a180s cause they are only 40 more a pair? THANK YOU!!!

@eastendphotographer428 3 года назад

Sorry for the long winded comment Steve part of my question is due to perhaps romance rather than practicality I just like the look of the old equipment and the memories I had growing up as a teenager perhaps I need to move on and just update new equipment I value your opinion

@dalstar925 3 года назад

It likely is due to the nostalgia. Was a victim of that myself lol. Not to say there isn’t some wonderful vintage gear out there, but technology is king here. I have some Polk Monitor 5s and Cerwin D2s and the 5000f pretty much trounces both of them. I thought they both sounded fine and they do sound really good, but the Klipsch is just way ahead to my ears. Not really an apples to apples comparison with the 3 I mentioned, but I think it fits your question. Lots of YT reviews on modern speakers and amps out there along with forums and ratings on websites like crutchfield or any other website that sells audio gear that can help guide you to the right speaker/component combo. Crutchfield also has great staff that will talk you through it, as does Music Direct and a few others. Just know what you like and they can usually point you in the right direction. Do your due diligence though! Hopefully you’ll be happy or hopefully you’ve already found your solution as your comment is a couple months old.

@dalstar925 3 года назад

Audio Advice is another with really great customer service.

@andyjefferson1308 5 лет назад

Mr Steve....Have you tried Monitor Audio Silver 200s?? Because I'm buying a pair. I can get them for £900 a pair. Just wondering if you've ever tested Monitor Audio Speakers?! Anyways, cool video's. 👍

@barryrose9452 5 лет назад

Do you think the dynamic type speakers like the Klipsch would make it a better choice for home theatre?

@Audiovont 8 месяцев назад

Bough the Stage A190’s but I have not amplifier yet… Any advice?

@jogmas12 5 лет назад

I’ll take the JBL A170

@scottyo64 5 лет назад

Just curious is it because they are cheaper? I do like the sound of speakers from both companies as I own towers from both.

@AntoineViau-00 3 года назад

Hello Steve, I’m curious about comparing them to the 600M? I know floor vs bookshelf are different but giving the fact that one is 6” woofer would maybe compensate a little? I listened to the 600M and was seduced but what would I miss, if any, going towards the 5000F? Thanks!

@guatobean2869 3 года назад

imaging and sound stage but the sound is very similar. At times the holographic placement of instruments can be awe inspiring on the towers compared to the bookshelves.

@Another_Audiophile 5 лет назад

Hello Steve, how come and you’ve never reviewed a monitor audio speaker?

@jasonmadruga9028 2 года назад

recently got a pair of the RP-5000F. Now, what would be good sub and/or center? this is for a roughly 20x20 living room area

@jgbelmont 3 года назад

How does it sound if you mix a very warm speaker with a very bright one? Does that work well or not at all?

@McgarickWAstate 5 лет назад

I have the model before the 5000 and it is remarkable. Hook up a good ta2020 based amp and brace yourself...

@vmvlev 5 лет назад

finaly speakers worth talking about :-) no wifi bollox

@weldsj8847 3 года назад

I kinda would like to have my socks blown off! But looks like the Klipsch cost twice what the JBLs go for.

@dalstar925 3 года назад

I haven’t heard the JBLs but I own the 5000’s and they’ve made me extremely happy

@hillelbrandes1488 5 лет назад

NHT C4 tower please!

@mzondi1970 5 лет назад

I've been considering something like this from both of these companies I think the Klipsch maybe a bit bright with my Yamaha 501

@dr.anthonyforgione4253 5 лет назад

mzondi1970 Yes, Klipsch are bright, Yamaha is almost always bright, together... probably too much.

@michaelwhiteside2875 5 лет назад

Funny my Yamaha is far from bright

@mzondi1970 5 лет назад

@@michaelwhiteside2875 I think the combination with the Klipsch would be a bit bright I don't think my Yamaha is real bright either but again putting them both together maybe too much for me I run elac 6.2 right now and they are a little bit more laid back so pairing with the Yamaha works out pretty good

@michaelwhiteside2875 5 лет назад

@@mzondi1970 how do you like the elac

@mzondi1970 5 лет назад

@@michaelwhiteside2875 I like them a lot they're fantastic I haven't found anything I like better in this price range but I believe with a laid-back amplifier like a Marantz or something they may be too laid back for some

@alexanderscott3790 5 лет назад

The Klipsch is the better speaker (set up correctly, as per), Imo. Matched with a rich forgiving sounding amp with these, and your done! I think the Klipsch is the better tool with more potential

@Monkeyseemonkey79 5 лет назад

Based on what?

@raffiequler7510 5 лет назад

Alexander, a rich, forgiving amp costs $5000. You are not the smartest cookie, are you?

@alexanderscott3790 5 лет назад

@@raffiequler7510 Rraffiki, .are you insane? .are you defining what a "rich" sounding amp is for wikipedia these days??! Do you even know ur azzhole from ur elbow??!!! $5000 is where ALL the RICH amps start, ey?? Ur fun!.. not even gonna waste my breath anymore on ya. YUR SUSPECT!!

@kevinbalcer8957 5 лет назад

The jbl is the better speaker hands down. The jbl will sound great with just about any amplifier. And the jbl is more balanced of a speaker with rich full spacious sound. The klipsch have bass that is loose and tremble that’s fatiguing with a thin tonal midrange. All the hype on the klipsch speakers is the marketing

@alexanderscott3790 5 лет назад

@@kevinbalcer8957 ill A/B them on my own terms n assess more fully, then comment. Might be equip n setup idiosyncrasies to determine

@dwightms7365 5 лет назад

Steve, Steve, please review, please review...

@phrosda 4 года назад

Id like to heat a klipsch to klipsch comparison. These vs. Rp8000f vs, the rf7iii

@rokkrasovec6136 Год назад

Can i ask how would Klicsch RP-5000F go with Marantz SR5013?

@chrisd6736 5 лет назад

I need advice! I’m building a 5.1 surround system off of the Klipsch rp 8000f but I have no idea what amp or AVR to get for optimal sound quality. The only feature I would really like is Apple airplay. Let me know if you guys have any good ideas.

@troybrownentertainment2324 5 лет назад

Denon 4400 it was last year receiver but can be had for $500 now

@Mac2437 4 года назад

Troy Brown Entertainment Where can get them for that price ?

@59seank 5 лет назад

What's the difference between a horn and a wave guide?

@leapers124 4 года назад

I like both

@girirajdhyani4661 2 года назад

How much rms power can the jbl a170 or a190 speaker each can take? I read the specsheets and it read that a190 is rated at 225watts each , what us this? Rms?