I am an old man and it is about over 50 years that sergiu Celidiache accompagnies my life and even today still blowing my mind ... he is one of the very few who reached something in his life which makes life interesting to live !
WHO gives a damn what the critics said? No one remembers who they were - but here we all are listening to this divine music-making 37 years later. He is magic. He is simply magic. I first got to know the Fauré as a boy soprano almost 60 years ago. I have loved it ever since. I have been rehearsal pianist for amateur choirs, BUT in all my dreams I couldn't imagine such wonderful singing as Celibidache gets from that choir. I find myself singing along as if Celibidache is drawing the music out of me. The man was a magician.
@@emperorjimmu9941 If he didn't make any recordings, Jim,, how come we can listen to him on RU-vid? Perhaps your comment would be more intelligent if you distinguished between criticism such as Eric Blom's famous description in Grove 1954, that Rachmaninoff's music is" montonous", and the creative criticism of a student by a teacher in a masterclass.
We have all read what the critics thought of Madam Butterfly or Carmen at their respective first performances. Also how Rachmaninov's 1st Symphony was trashed . It has since turned out to be accepted as a real gem , and quite rightly so. This can be said of so many works that the critics slated at first. They are paid to criticise ( find fault ) .
My dad was also....a genius . I gotta say....he also had a real heart for others; he was stern yet kind hearted....he totally brought the very best out in people. He had an ego totally....yet....these types knowwwww who they are and what they bring. Those who see it negatively ARE NOT LETTING THE MUSIC PLAY AS IT IS , AS IT SHOULD, AND AS .IT. WILL.
In one of the documentaries made about him, one musician says, "He never thought of himself, only of others." Then there is a cut to another (more famous) musician who says, "He never thought of others, only of himself." Probably like all geniuses he was full of contradictions.
@@bikerpaul68 like all geniuses, greatness is within them .they know it also, so....sometimes they just spell it out 😂....how cold the earth grows as these touchstones of decency and discipline for love life and art , leave us ❤️
How can anyone really dislike that??? It's such precious lesson, this is true learning of the music away from the cold (sometimes stupid) academic cage. "Let the music happen". You wouldn't hear that in school ever.
Celibidache hears things that even the professionals do not perceive, he really knows how the piece goes. This is why everyone is so utterly fascinated under his leadership. Lucky for them that he is insistent without being domineering, and even has a gentleness and kindness that encourages their best effort. Ultimately he just wants to take everyone, performers and audience to that wonderful musical place where he resides.
It is simply amazing how he reaches in to the hearts and minds of the musicians and withdraws the music, without compromise, but without Arrogance. And he does this without tearing down, but always building up and encouraging the performers. And always smiling, except when the Horns are AWOL. They justly received a “Namaste” scowl! Thank you for the production of this documentary!
Amazing video. The explanation at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="980">16:20</a> is really something I was not expecting to find in a RU-vid video. I had already read about his point of view about recording concerts, but this explanation is pure gold. He points out to the dehumanization due to the mechanization of things. There is a reason why we gather at concert halls to listen to concerts, not everything can be achieved from our electronic devices. Even if society ends up enjoying everything in a VR headset, nothing will ever substitute all that implies human contact.
La philosophe de la musique, de l'interprétation et de la direction d'orchestre au siècle dernier, et peut-être longtemps.. le grand Celibidache ❤❤ l’honneur à lui
Sergiu Celibidache was a polyglot. He spoke: romanian, his mother tongue, english, german, french, spanish and italian. He has advanced studies in mathematics (!!!), philosophies and sure in music at prestigious Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin in Berlin. He was a genius, one of the greatest Romanians which I know, and I know pretty well because I am from Romania.
I just discovered Celibidache recently. I am listening to everything I can find from him. Interviews, music.. An incredible human being. I'm learning so much...
@@NikoHL Yes my friend, an incredible human being. With studies in mathematics, philosophies, piano, conductor, polyglot. Just check this out how he spoke all this languages: at top level! Here in Romania just started filming a movie about hos life with John Malkovich in the main role. The movie's name is ''The yellow tie'', so check in future to see this movie. John Malkovich is also an amazing movie actor.
Celibidache was the first one at Munich open rehearsals to the public. I believe, today he would be glad to spread his rehearsals via internet live stream, too, to teach 'What is music' to world.
Probably not. Not because he didn't like to share, but because he believed that a microfone can't register all of the detail within music. He often refused to record his representations because of this belief. He was a perfectionist, and he wouldn't likely want to share something that he believed inferior to the actual thing you can hear live, by being present.
He also believed that music is not made during rehearsals, only during concerts, rehearsals is the process of logically organizing the elements, but the music is only experienced when the post rehearsal piece is played through without interruption. So I think he would broadcast his rehearsals via internet.
It was UTTERLY enjoyable to see and to hear what this Magician was doing with this music and how masterfully he can get what he really desires! FANTASTIC video! Thank you very much!
Duo DiCesareTempera Thank you so much for sharing this moving video. I, who am a rank amateur when it comes to music, learned from this. I know I will be replaying and learning even more in the future.
Thanks a lot for posting it! I had lost hope that I will see it again in its entirety. His rehearsals were so illuminating! And this film is the best homage to Celibidache's memory.
Thank you so much for posting this. It is so inspiring. HE is so inspiring. Fantastic singers, chorus and orchestra. THIS is what music is all about and how it should be made.
Bellissimo...credo che lo ascolterò molte volte...Il Maestro Celibidache era molto simpatico oltre che un grande direttore,e questo aiuta molto a sopportare la fatica delle prove...un po' la conosco,,, però poi la soddisfazione e' grande... Grazie a chi ha messo on line questa meraviglia...peccato per i sottotitoli,tremendi...
Love Celibidache's connection with Krishna Murti, whole thing brought me to tears..... Anyone who listens to this...is changed from inside out! Thank you!
Not everybody can say "Yeah, I was rehearsing with the choir once, and Celibidache was there too, working with them and then, he conducted them into singing Happy Birthday to me. It was really nice."
Ale Velindra It is because he loved rehearsals. He said that the most important part of a show is rehearsals. He even taked less cache for asking more rehearsals with the orchestra sometimes. Brilliant.
Choir, soloists, Orchestra... Today the super Stars conductors want tô take a rehearsal section before the concert. They yet think It is enough! Celi show to us that the most important is experiencing music, discovering music through rehearsals.
Lots of choristers will improvise harmonies on the spot, especially to very common tunes like Happy Birthday, if they’re musically-minded enough, which these ones appear to be.
There is an important distinction made at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2297">38:17</a>.Celibidache educates people in how to sing, understand and enjoy music.What an interesting comment coming from an experienced chorister!! You'd think a chorister would have already cottoned on to such basic elements by this time. This, to my mind, is where genius lies in the field of music (as the lady points out). Celibidache's approach to music hits a target that nobody else can see. Thus, next time you see a 5 year old playing Flight of the Bumblebee on the piano, this is just an example of talent.It is not genius. The 5 year old may not have viewed the music from a completely original direction.
Para mi, el mejor Director de Orquesta del siglo XX, debido a su enorme preparación, su enorme oído musical, su filosofía y su compromiso con las obras a ejecutar. Por ello, muchas veces no fue comprendido
F* ck the critics. What do they know? It all comes down to what effect the performance has on the audience / listener. His insistence on long rehearsals really paid off in everything he conducted. His Bruckner for example is just unbeatable for tempi and individual instrumental sound. The critics are all blinkered because they only accept what they personally believe a piece of music should sound like to their own personal preference. In nearly 65 years of attending live concerts and opera performances over all of Europe i have never taken the slightest bit of notice of what the critics have to say. They are paid to criticise...that is their job.
He could speake seven lenguages very well, with a very rich vocabular: Romanian, Italian (the one he spoke better), German, French, English, Spanish and a Romanian dialect.
Regarding the recording of the music , i think he "WAS" right . Now we have far better audio technology . We can now reproduce and store (digitally) sound with a quality unimaginable at that time. And even And we can store it digitally , this mean that the recording is immune to the pass of time.
He still would have rejected it. If you listen to his explanation at 15:04, he argues that how you play a piece of music is dependent upon the prevailing acoustic environment. The tempo, the volume of various sections of the orchestra and so on all have to be adjusted in order to integrate with the acoustics of the location where you are performing. In a recording, the orchestra may play a piece to match the acoustics of the recording studio however the acoustics of your home are very different to those in the recording studio. Thus, the adaptations made for the studio will be out of place meaning the effect achieved in one environment will be lost in another. For Celibidache, this fact always made recordings inferior irrespective of how advanced the recording equipment was.
Mi dispiace ma le tecniche di registrazione non sono assolutamente migliorate con la tecnologia , la registrazione digitale è quanto di più lontano ci possa essere dai suoni reali degli strumenti , si perdono tutti gli armonici che crea un 'orchestra mentre suona , le voci sono appiattite e svuotate, prendi un disco registrato su vinile in modo analogico e prendi lo stesso rimasterizzato in digitale su cd e ascolta . il secondo sarà imbarazzante per la scarsa qualità musicale e la manipolazione assurda degi effetti sonori che sono tutti ricreati in montaggio e non corrispondono ai suoni reali degli strumenti che ascolteresti dal vivo, non un disco che ho ricomprato in cd aveva una qualità minimamente paragonabile al vinile.
Three factors are there concerning Phenomenology of everything: space, time and person. So Celibidache's Philosophy is a multi-dimensional one, very subtle, each element is important, so almost no one can catch up with him, a highly elevated person , perhaps only one in a century, not even Furtwaengler can reach his level.
I always had problems understanding what a conductor who spoke broken English meant, or wanted. There's a lot of guessing involved. Sometimes you guess wrong - and they are not usually forgiving.
I was thinking about the same thing. A few times I didn't understand what he meant but I am not a musician and I thought that the musicians somehow did understand.
I can fully agree with his sentiment, but then for those of us without the option of attending concerts and hearing it live, recordings are the only option. Is there a difference? Indubitably, but sometimes one must take what one can have and enjoy it. I love Celi's approach to music. I know many think he's too slow and deliberate, but I find it more introspection than slow in his approach.
If you cannot attend live concerts then the recorded ones are a solution. Listening to recorded music is a good method to get familiar to the works. Once this said, if you had had the opportunity to attend a live performance by Celibidache, Abbado, you would know why Celibidache says what he says. I encourage you to attend live music, even if the interpreters are not "best in the world". This is adifferent experience.
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