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Complete History of the Grand Admirals 

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Thrawn's presence in Ahsoka is sure to make people wonder: what exactly is a Grand Admiral in Star Wars, who were they in Legends and Canon, and why did most of them kind of suck?
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@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 10 месяцев назад
MarMar has edited a couple videos for me on my gaming channel, but this is the first of her work to show up on Datapad, so thanks to MarMar for her work here!
@MarMarBunbun
@MarMarBunbun 10 месяцев назад
Glad to work on these videos with you! I really enjoyed editing this one
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 10 месяцев назад
Now that's one lucky job there, dude/ma'am!
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 10 месяцев назад
You know you've finally made it on your lore channel when you have an editor, congrats haha
@crazyj7867
@crazyj7867 10 месяцев назад
I'm obsessed with the Imperial fracture era of starwars legends and Gilad Pellaeon Is the most underrated of all time
@abemigos9281
@abemigos9281 10 месяцев назад
Underrated is one hell of an overstatement, honestly.
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 10 месяцев назад
Love the warlord era. Wish we got more pentastar alignment stuff. The greater maldrood was a total joke though.
@jermainecole4887
@jermainecole4887 10 месяцев назад
Thrawn is the character that got me into Star Wars man, so to see him finally get the recognition he deserves is amazing
@SteelerFan716
@SteelerFan716 9 месяцев назад
Oh, you poor bastard. Disappointed yet? I am.
@gackleballsg2034
@gackleballsg2034 9 месяцев назад
Cool
@thomasbaughman9941
@thomasbaughman9941 9 месяцев назад
It's too bad they managed to completely fuck up an already written character and story arc.
@JustRifff
@JustRifff 9 месяцев назад
Did the movies themselves not get you into starwars?? 😅
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver 8 месяцев назад
Amen man, He is amazing.
@spencersholden
@spencersholden 10 месяцев назад
I always think Zsinj is a grand admiral for a second before remembering he isn’t. Would have been really cool.
@mill2712
@mill2712 10 месяцев назад
Yes Zsinj was given the rank of warlord which another comment pointed out was a person who held military and political command. I think something similar to a head of state. It apparently is like a mix between Grand Admiral which is military with some political power and Grand Moff which is political with some military power. (Though moffs and grand moffs like Tarkin did have some significant military control.)
@spencersholden
@spencersholden 10 месяцев назад
@@mill2712 I know that. I just wanted to see another grand admiral do something besides Thrawn.
@ZoomReverseFlash
@ZoomReverseFlash 10 месяцев назад
IIRC Zsinj expected to become the next Grand Admiral before Palpatine death, and then just donned the white GA uniform when he became an independent warlord.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 10 месяцев назад
At least he nails the look.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 10 месяцев назад
that’s be a pretty big downgrade honestly. He was a Grand Moff, right?
@justintaylor1713
@justintaylor1713 10 месяцев назад
@Theology.101 If I’m remembering correctly he held the rank of Warlord, cause for some reason it was actually a rank
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 10 месяцев назад
@@justintaylor1713 Yeah Thrawn had the title too. Warlord of the Empire means someone who had control over both the military and civilian infrastructure
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 8 месяцев назад
I wouldn't call Syn 'mediocre' at all. He rose through the ranks to admiral via merit and zeal. Ackbar himself admits that it was only through the Bothan's sabotaging two of Syn's Interdictor cruisers as well as feeding the Grand Admiral false Intel about being able to expect reinforcements fromHigh Admiral Teradoc that Ackbar was able to win the battle of Kashyyyk against Syn. That's high praise coming from the best commander the New Republic had.
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
@Prophetofthe8thLegion 2 месяца назад
In all fairness as far as admirals go Ackbar is kinda just average, so is that really a testament to Syn’s skill or Ackbar being just unable to compete on an even playing field?
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 10 месяцев назад
I always had the impression that most of the Grand Admirals embody one aspect of the seven deadly sins.
@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089
@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 10 месяцев назад
That would be interesting. What's sin does Thrawn embody?
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 10 месяцев назад
@@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089 Thrawn is one of the exceptions. I see it that way: Grant - pride Tigellinus - greed Takel - lust - gluttony Pitta - envy Grunger - wrath Batch - sloth
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 10 месяцев назад
thrawn is absolutely pride, fucker gets killed because he never considered his deception on the oppression of the noghiri to ever be his downfall or at least consider it a danger to him while he was pretty content with having rukh around he was never dumb or blinded by pride to a cartoony level but he has his flaws
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 10 месяцев назад
@@kR-qj7rw The deception of the Noghri started long before he had part in it. He continued it for pragmatic reasons and not for pride.
@Austrian_Butcher
@Austrian_Butcher 9 месяцев назад
The new republic executing someone as "An example" is something I did not expect to hear
@seawind930
@seawind930 5 месяцев назад
It was the first time they really had someone from the Emperors own Circle and they wanted to show to their members that the New Republic had a Judicial system that would deal with Imperials harshly and not just use them for backdoor intelligence and favors.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 10 месяцев назад
Barring Thrawn, I just fucking love Teshik. He strikes me as Wulf Yularen, Gilad Pellaeon type. His ‘not harsh enough on pirates’ dounds like he refused a few too many orders from palp
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 10 месяцев назад
Teshik actually was framed in a kangaroo court. No war crimes could actually be attributed to him.
@themanyouwanttobe
@themanyouwanttobe 10 месяцев назад
Legends really got wild at times.
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 7 месяцев назад
The best times😢😊
@DragonMaws420
@DragonMaws420 10 месяцев назад
Can you please do grand moffs next?
@TobeWilsonNetwork
@TobeWilsonNetwork 7 месяцев назад
1:17 Joruus, he was so full of life. Gone before his time.
@manuelgrothe608
@manuelgrothe608 9 месяцев назад
We need Grand Admiral Demetrius Zarin, Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon, Grand Admiral Nial Declann, Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, Moff Gideon(pre-Mandalorian), Enric Pryde, Barton Coburn, Hux Father/Son, and many more classic OG Trilogy Imperial Leaders In The Bad Batch, Obi Wan Kenobi, Andor, The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka seasons 2-3 or 4
@manuelgrothe608
@manuelgrothe608 9 месяцев назад
We need Grand Admiral Thrawn In The Bad Batch, Obi Wan Kenobi, Andor, and The Mandalorian seasons 2-3-4
@NeidalRuekk
@NeidalRuekk 9 месяцев назад
12 out of 13 go down fighting, the last sips martinis on Rathalay for Force knows how long.
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 7 месяцев назад
Well one offed himself though.
@thetarkinist7265
@thetarkinist7265 10 месяцев назад
Il-Raz is my boy
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 10 месяцев назад
Always wanted to see more of the circle of twelve grand admirals
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 Месяц назад
02:45 "WHile Thrawn developed the TIE Defender in canon..." Well, that's been retconned, lol.
@Hartzilla2007
@Hartzilla2007 10 дней назад
Well until we found out Thrawn was still MIA I thought it was funny that both Grand Admirals were sending proxies to the Shadow Council meeting like neither one of them wanted to bother with those guys.
@brunobertossi
@brunobertossi 10 месяцев назад
Damn I was thinking about the Phantom and you talk about the Rebel Assault II story. I got this crazy fan theory about Thrawn now developing the Phantom + the Defender as his way present himself as a big threath. Also I think Rae Sloane is by far the most competent out of the rest.
@celsetialarchives5909
@celsetialarchives5909 10 месяцев назад
I hope when thrawn gets back to the galaxy in ahsoka he dosent immediately announce his return I hope instead he links up with pellion and works to get his ship fixed etc in secret Caz lets face it The chimera and its tues etc combined with the firepower on that ring are not gonna be stopped by one jedi ship
@nicholasmaryniak3815
@nicholasmaryniak3815 10 месяцев назад
I really hope the Sloane issue is addressed, even just a little throwaway line about it. I quite liked her, I quite liked aftermath series overall. Grand Admirals have set my heart racing since I was little. Thanks!
@stormtrooper2466
@stormtrooper2466 10 месяцев назад
I still can’t believe that the Rebels would execute Teshik, a political prisoner.
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 10 месяцев назад
i mean why not, if they dont have any use or hes unwilling to cooperate why keep a esentially space nazi high comand alive
@vjisa328
@vjisa328 10 месяцев назад
How many grand admirals are in Thrawn's Revenge?
@HonestHappyHater
@HonestHappyHater 10 месяцев назад
IIRC Thrawn, Takel, Makati, Grunger, Pitta, Syn, Grant and Pellaeon. Thrawn can be a leader for the Imperial Remnant, Pellaeon can be a leader for the Imperial faction that forms Dark Empire, Makati and Takel appear as heroes for the Imperial Remnant, Grunger can appear as a hero for any Imperial faction (he is one of the "smaller" warlords, integrable through the political tab), Pitta and Syn are independent warlords and Grant starts off as a hero for the Pentastar Alignment, but in later era starts he can be recruited by the New Republic through the political tab
@vjisa328
@vjisa328 10 месяцев назад
@@HonestHappyHater Thanks I was wondering how many grand admirals I can gather and play with as IR
@HonestHappyHater
@HonestHappyHater 10 месяцев назад
@@vjisa328 Recently some heroes got "warlord" tags, which means thaf they have to be killed in order for a faction to be integrated. I'm not sure if Grant and Syn got those tags, but if they didn't, then with some hustle the Imperial Remnant could integrate all of them except Danetta Pitta at some point. As Imperial Remnant progress to Thrawn, integrate the Pentastar Alingment without killing Grant, allow Greater Maldrood to capture Kashyyyk before anyone else (if they do that, they'll get Pecatti Syn as a hero), defeat Greater Maldrood without killing Syn, integrate Josef Grunger through minor warlords integration (purely RNG-based), form Dark Empire and progress all the way to Pellaeon
@vjisa328
@vjisa328 10 месяцев назад
@@HonestHappyHater I noticed that Tekel, Tigellinus and couple of grand moffs are on Kessel. Can I get both when I conquer Kessel ?
@HonestHappyHater
@HonestHappyHater 10 месяцев назад
@@vjisa328 Ok, I've checked a few things. As IR you can have Octavian Grant, Pecatti Syn, Mitlin Takel, Rufaan Tigellinus, Afsheen Makati, Josef Grunger, Mitth'raw'nuruodo and Giliad Pellaeon. The good news is Grant and Syn are not "warlords", so you can integrate them by letting GM take Kashyyyk and then integrating GM and PA without killing the two admirals. The bad news is, Grunger is still 100% RNG. The even worse news is that you can't do a grand reunion of the grand admirals, as you can't have them all at once. Rufaan Tigellinus and Mitlin Takel are mutually exclusive with Afsheen Makati. Two first ones are obtainable by deposing Sate Pestage in favor of Trioculus, while the last one will join you if you back Ysanne Isard instead. The only way to get Thrawn is to have him overthrow either Isard or Trioculus (whichever you helped to take control), but Tigellinus will die if Trioculus is deposed. To get Pellaeon you need to just form the Dark Empire, get rid of Sidious, get rid of Carnor Jax, get rid of Natasi Daala and you'll get him as grand admiral. You'll get the most grand admirals if you back Trioculus against Pestage and form Dark Empire without recalling Thrawn from Unknown Regions, but then you'll be missing out on Thrawn
@captainmasadoriansilvalexu741
@captainmasadoriansilvalexu741 10 месяцев назад
Excellent
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 10 месяцев назад
Why did zaarin even bother with his coup? All others before his failed like the gentis coup and the trachta coup.
@the_only_lonely
@the_only_lonely 10 месяцев назад
funny thing is, he never was the last grandadmiral
@baron7755
@baron7755 10 месяцев назад
I've always been annoyed at how all the Grand Admirals except Thrawn (and I guess Rae but I dont know much about the new EU) are such utter dolts
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 10 месяцев назад
well to keep thrawn unique the writers had to slowly dull out his competition, which i guess makes sense but it just makes them not tht diferent from one off imperial captains in stories
@fliplife67
@fliplife67 10 месяцев назад
Hopefully he’s the real deal or the Ahsoka show will not be good.
@Lathnor
@Lathnor 10 месяцев назад
What is the background game?
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 10 месяцев назад
Animations made in Blender
@auangauthentication958
@auangauthentication958 10 месяцев назад
Hehehehe , Da Duda
@ArcBing
@ArcBing 10 месяцев назад
Excellent mid video plug!
@nicholasgutierrez9940
@nicholasgutierrez9940 10 месяцев назад
Grand chadmiral Thrawn*
@DarthVages
@DarthVages 10 месяцев назад
👍
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 10 месяцев назад
That was fun
@sethmiles9436
@sethmiles9436 10 месяцев назад
Or husk wasn't called out because none of the show writers read the books or play the video games, so they had no idea there was another Grand Admiral. Just a thought.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 10 месяцев назад
I think you misunderstood. Hux is not the Grand Admiral. Brendol Hux was not just called out, but was physically in the show as a character. He was only from the books before, and was from the books which Rae Sloane was in. It would be impossible to get that character without someone involved also knowing who Sloane was. That's why I specifically mentioned him when discussing the possibility of the writers knowing who she was.
@sethmiles9436
@sethmiles9436 10 месяцев назад
@CoreysDatapad And I think you misunderstand. I am not saying Hux was a Grand Admiral, no where in my short comment did I even allud to him being one. My whole point is that the show writers do not care about the other source material. Which Dave himself has proven over and over. He made a whole book irrelevant and changing how a character survived Order 66. And more relevant to this video, Rae Sloano only really being mentioned as a Grand Admiral in the aftermath books and the Squadron video games.
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 9 месяцев назад
​@@sethmiles9436 You're proposing they made the Aftermath books irrelevant by replacing a character from the Aftermath books with another character from the Aftermath books?
@TheMock5000
@TheMock5000 10 месяцев назад
Thats disappointing that they were more political than anything
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 10 месяцев назад
At least Zaarin made the beaut that is the Legends TIE Defender (sorry not sorry, Disney Alt-universe Thrawn and his nerfed T/D version), which then resulted with the uber-schway King Hell God Starfighter of Death/Missile Boat. Him being a main center of a great Star Wars video game sequel also helps... if only Squadrons had an antagonist/supporting protagonist just like him. Shame you didn't mention Teshik's eerily foreboding pre-mortem visions of the past and the future (though I still complain of the apocryphal Second Galactic Civil War being part of the latter). If only Batch's research and tech evolved space warfare permanently. The likes of Stealth-Xs being exclusive to Force sensitive Jedi pilots is just a huge waste of potential. (Then again, this may be my anti-Rebel Assault bias showing. Believe me, those games have aged like unpasteurized milk.) Woe to the GAs who had to be unfortunate participants in the Jedi Prince books. Won't lie, Grant is one underrated motherkriffer out of all the GAs. Pity he didn't go back to the fray in the dark Yuuzhan Vong War.
@brunobertossi
@brunobertossi 10 месяцев назад
I have so much love for the Rebel Assault games, though when I play Im full on nostalgia goggles. Also the Phantom is my favorite fighter in Star Wars and Star Wars Armada recanonized them a few years ago so im waiting to see them back in canon.
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 10 месяцев назад
The whole point of the Stealth x is that id had so many reduced systems that it needed a force sensitive pilot. kinda limits it to jedi
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 10 месяцев назад
@@JJJBunney001 That's exactly it. Such a limitation makes it quite lackluster and a bit too biased against Muggle pilots, who also deserve to have specialized craft like this.
@danielescobar4342
@danielescobar4342 10 месяцев назад
Wasny Rax a Grand Admiral in the new canon?
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 9 месяцев назад
He was only a Fleet Admiral I believe
@aethertech
@aethertech 10 месяцев назад
I hope when (if) they bring Palleon back to shistsney star wars, not just his 5 min holographic 'shadow council' bit, that he is as every bit the Legends version we all love. If not, I wouldn't be surprised...
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 10 месяцев назад
he wasnt really a character until well after the thrawn trilogy, he was really just thrawns 2IC and a way for the reader to be bamboozled by thrawns asspulling tactics. so disney hasnt changed or ruined him at all
@aethertech
@aethertech 10 месяцев назад
found the rebel scum appologist.@@JJJBunney001
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 10 месяцев назад
ignoring the 12 year old rant about didney dumb and you misspelling his name (lmao) Gilad Pellaeon was a confused yes man to thrawn in the original triilogy of books he served as a representation of the old empire and dumber imperial commanders, most of the times he would say something and thrawn woulld go tsk tsk Pellaeon that strategy is whack you see using my 5 D chess brain im gonna tell you how to lay a better strategy, to Pellaeon being like yes sir that and him being on edge and nervous around both Rukh and specially C'baoth insane wizard that constantly threatened to kill both
@BUFFPHROG
@BUFFPHROG 10 месяцев назад
I love Sloane too much
@LordZandersSoapbox4811
@LordZandersSoapbox4811 10 месяцев назад
Oh, I don’t personally care what Disney says about legends and Canon everything made before Disney bought Star Wars from George Lucas is the Star Wars extended universe forever. The crap that they’re making his fan fiction.
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