@Thomas Wheeler. I'm the instructor in the clip. Notice in the description it says "first flight." Every good instructor demonstrates the requirements the first time around. As it was also being recorded it makes sense to visually demonstrate the procedures once so that the student has something to work with at home. Learning is quicker that way by far. I'm saving my students at least 10-15 hours on their training by implementing this method. I also have a 95% first time pass rate on 30+ students in 3.5 years as an instructor including 100% first time pass rate with my CFI candidates. Anyone who flys with me knows that I'm definitely not "touchy feely" at all! Come on out, I'm always looking to learn from others. On the crosswind debate. It was super light as you can see from the drift. Not really much required, but the wrong inputs were definitely put in there for sure.. Nice catch!! Safe flying. Rob.
Cleared for takeoff verbal checklist in the arrow is as follows: B Boost pump - on M Mixture - set to current conditions I Instruments (6 pack) - checked and set T Time - start clock T Transponder - correct code, set to altitude (alt) S Seatbelts, seat backs - fastened and in the upright position S Switches - lights, pitot heat as required F Flaps - set for takeoff H Heading indicator - aligns with correct departure runway Before landing verbal checklist is as follows: B Boost pump - on G Gas - fullest tank U Undercarriage - down 3 green / in the green M Mixture - set to current conditions P Prop- full in S Seatbelts, seat backs - fastened and in the upright position S Switches - lights, pitot heat as required ** I recommend a bgumpss on the 45, downwind, base and final. Then a fence check! Don't forget the fence check!! As you cross the threshold check and verbalize "three green" or "in the green." Cheap insurance by far! Safe flying. Rob
I've flown both. The Arrow isn't that much harder to fly, it's just a bit heavier in the nose. All you have to know how to do is work the prop control, just knowing the appropriate settings. Other than that it's just remembering to put the gear down, knowing how the emergency extender works, and how to override the emergency extender. It also sinks like a rock when you take the power out, so landings aren't as pretty as in a 172. It's an easy enough transition though, I did it in about 4 hours
For jcijr14. You would expect a drift to the Right, (actually can skid the tires across the Rwy) if you have a Left CW. The wind was from 200 @5, and they took off on Rwy 25(0). The wind would have tried to "raise" that left wing, but the left aileron input would have held it down and the Right aileron, being in the "down" configuration, would impose additional drag on the right wing, which would aid in keeping the nose straight down the Rwy. N-6395T
Hi Michael, I completely agree with your statement. A left crosswind should definitely push the plane over to the right, of course. I was referring to the leftward yawing moment which occurs when you put left aileron down into a left cross wind. At this moment, in retrospect, I have no idea why I even got into that (it has been a long time since I made the initial comment). At any rate, the control inputs should have been yoke to the left in a left crosswind although he got away with it here.
Good times - I got my endorsement in a T-tail Arrow but I must admit I've never heard of B-GUMPS (sounds like Rob omitted the S??). GUMPS - Gas (Fullest Tank), Undercarriage (Down), Mixture (Rich), Prop (Full Forward), and Switches (Fuel Pump/Landing Light as req), or w/cowl flaps GUMPS-C (Cowl flaps open). I open them on short final if it's cool, farther out if it's warm. On an ILS I have ~28" MP in, so I'm not worried about shock cooling (if you believe in that) on a 500 FPM descent. Fly safe!
@aktim2010:You would expect a drift to the left if you have a left crosswind due to weathervaning (i.e. yawing moment pointing the nose into the wind). @sgabriel: Left aileron should be applied in a left crosswind. Thank you for the video. I am starting my checkout in the Arrow, and I enjoy that airplane very much.
You are correct! His correction was for a Right cross wind, and the Instructor said that it was from the left. I thought the instructor would turn the yoke and tell him that. Went back & reviewed the video; wind was 200 @5, and they were using Rwy 25, so it was a Left CW. That, IMHO is a major mistake - especially if the wind was really moving from that direction. The Left wing would have moved up, and probably quite rapidly. Would have been a surprise for him, no doubt. N-6395T
I usually fly a Cirrus SR22, so it feels a little slow, but given it's also a low wing, the sight picture is the same. In a complex aircraft there's just landing gear to remember to put down and up (and know how to fix if things go wrong). And given it's a variable pitch prop, there's one more slider to deal with. Ironically, the arrow I'm flying doesn't have electric flaps, so it's an arm to pull and push for the flaps.
Looks that way. I had my complex in an Arrow, and it was about the same set up. Great flying little airplane, especially solo. Hard to slow down, at times, coming into the pattern. N-6395T
Wind must have changed from 200 degrees (you guys were using 25); but, hey, it could have been variable above the Rwy. What I think we are all talking about is that "on the takeoff roll", the wind was FROM your left side. If it had been really "moving", your left wing might have, virtually, "jumped up" and turned you to the right, in the blink of any eye. Funny stuff happens. Nice video. Thanks, N-6395T
I set the camera up with Wide 170 FOV and then just forward of my head high and facing down using the suction cup mount on the window. Another trick is to alway film in 1080p.. then in iMovie, crop the video to what's important and you still get 720p!
I'll have to ask my instructor on that one. I normally fly a Cirrus SR-22, so my prop is linked to my throttle. I adjust power with a single level + mixture if required.
@danielvillava The Arrow I'm renting isn't IFR certified, but I do have a excellent post landing my Cirrus SR-22 in LIFR conditions on the ILS 10L into KPDX. Check it out.
I tried to get a decent camera angle with my GoPro today, I failed. You used the suction cup, right? If you did, how far forward/aft did you position it on the window? Did it get in the way with you head?
High Performance (201+ Horsepower) Pipers have a very strong left roll (Torque) effect at low speed/high power settings, but yeah I laughed at that too.
