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00:00 Intro
01:09 3 Things I learned with Garry Winogrand
03:42 On Composition: the role of context
06:29 On Composition: shape
07:42 On Composition: directions
08:37 On Composition: depth
10:02 Conclusions
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@aramdavid Год назад

Winogrand was one of the best ever. I saw his color slide show at the Brooklyn Museum 3 times when it ran. To think those were the things he is not even known for...

@TatianaHopper Год назад

I know I was surprised myself when I stumbled upon his colour photography, definitely a lot to learn from those, thank you for watching Aram!

@gchristopherklug Год назад

I saw that show twice myself.

@WalkInsider Год назад

He said on his interview he already saw everything and he doesn’t need to see it twice. Many photographer today don’t understand photography at all they thought a good photograph has to do something with beautiful scene or pretty face model or sexual pose in the studio. Sad

@primeryai 8 месяцев назад

@@WalkInsider I don't think that has rerally changed, it's just that photography tools are infinitely more accessible and everything is online now, so the mediocre majority is very visible now. Masters like Winogrand were always one in a million

@washingtonradio Год назад

One aspect of the great photographers was the amount of time they took to perfect their craft. They also learned to 'see' a composition almost intuitively; lots of practice. The lesson for me is take my camera with whenever possible and look for compositions but don't worry about whether I get any photos that trip, it's the exercise that is important.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Yes Jay great insight and I would definitely agree with everything you wrote there!

@richardrizzo_photography Год назад

Well done Tatiana, great discussion on such an amazing photographer. Yes, more of his work please. 🙂

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Rich, will do!!

@OboeCanAm Год назад

He's one of my favourite photographers, and yes, I'd like to see more videos about him! "I photograph to find out what something will look like photographed." - Garry Winogrand

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Lovely quote, thank you for watching and yes more Winogrand for sure!

@RocketinExile Год назад

Yes more Winogrand. One of the greatest ever.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Roger that!

@nambu1306 Год назад

Your videos are what is getting me and inspiring me to be a street photographer

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Mission accomplished! Thank you for tuning in my friend!

@21jlxi Год назад

I can't believe how quick he takes the photos, I didn't realise he was actually taking photos till I noticed he was winding the film on. Most people wouldn't even realise he was taking the photo, which is the whole point I guess. Great video as always. Cheers from New Zealand.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

I know its uncanny how he used to do that and it always worked! Much love back to New Zealand!

@yojimbo-jack Год назад

Ahh thank you for making this! Garry is my biggest inspiration in photography so this is such a treat!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you so much for watching!

@BenEdwards984 Год назад

I’ve never heard of Gary Winograd before, but what amazing compositional style he had. I’ll definitely be checking out more of his work. Thanks Tatiana, for another cracking video!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you for watching Ben glad you'll be checking out his work!

@marlon_fm 2 месяца назад

I think this is one of the best photography channels around here. Tatiana is very charismatic and I simply love the way she shares knowledge, specially because it is not tech heavy, like most channels.10 out of 10.

@TatianaHopper Месяц назад

Grateful for your words Marlon!

@marlon_fm Месяц назад

@@TatianaHopper you're welcome.

@jgaffney567 Год назад

The two most important lessons are shoot shoot shoot and ignore photographic influencers who push gear. At least realize why they push gear. They are doing it for themselves to make money. Winograd or any master can take any camera and make magic. Strive for that.

@jgaffney567 9 месяцев назад

@@BrunoChalifour well comfort is always good but a craftsman can make their craft with any tool. A driver can use a Kia and beat a non driver using a Porsche

@JackCrossSama 8 месяцев назад

It's not what you have, it's how you use it that matters.

@jgaffney567 8 месяцев назад

@BrunoChalifour Run run the experiment and you will be surprised ... Around the supercar factories the companies often do collaborative work on pedestrian brands sportier models ....the test drivers from the factory often drive these models and well they aren't often embarrassed

@MARTIN-101 7 месяцев назад

my philosiphy is simple. i just want a camera that clicks in split second on my click. thats it.

@gonzoexpress9885 Год назад

Another beautifully created and curated presentation Tatiana. Garry Winogrand was a serious standout when it comes to his contemporaries. He was a very genial, quirky and good-natured person who was totally committed to his photography 📸. His book, THE MAN IN THE CROWD, is brilliant, as is his color work 1964. A true giant of American photography.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

You used the perfect expression "a true giant of American photography" for sure! I absolutely agree I'm trying to get a hold of his doc because I want to learn more about him and bring more to the channel. Thank you for watching!

@LebelionProductions Год назад

The photograph of a couple with monkeys. The black guy is actually my cousin’s dad. He now live somewhere in Canada. Ive recently spoke to him about the photos. He remembered but he’s so old that he hardly can explain why they’ve done this and the back story behind the photographs… :(

@TatianaHopper Год назад

The world is really small, actually one of my favourite photos by Winogrand! All the best!

@denbeigh Год назад

Was there even a backstory? I assumed it was candid. You should definitely talk to him again because this is probably the most controversial talked about photo that he has taken. I think there's a lot of sides to it and I'm not sure if there's any record of Garry talking about it.

@marcosdamata8325 7 месяцев назад

Great content as usual, thank you! ❤ Winogrand is a Wizard, reminds us that photography - specially street - requires a sharp and fast mix of mind and intuition. Always on te edge of failure, but magic eventually happens when one is in the right mindset.

@RichardSilvius 3 месяца назад

Love the clip you chose at the beginning, from that documentary…it always made me laugh. It seems like a bungling affect he adopted as a way of disarming people…

@christophermorris7616 6 месяцев назад

As a longtime photographer who has been in the industry for a very long time, your reviews on the great photographers are quite good. Truly enjoy watching 🍃

@Ali-sj5pn Год назад

One of my favorite channels so happy to see how well your doing !

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you so much Ali!

@teocastel5882 Год назад

Great episode, thank you ! We'd love one on Pentti Samalahti :))

@TatianaHopper Год назад

I didn't know about him, thank you for suggesting it! Cheers Teo!

@WatchesAndPhotography Год назад

Garry Winogrand was known for his compositions, sometimes criticized for horizon not being level. He also did not believe that all lines had to be straight and parallel in relation to buildings, as he thought that that’s not how we see. He’d rather play with the angles rather than artificially make them straight and parallel. Garry was a conflicted man I believe. I think a very sensitive man as well. Evident in what he chose to write for his proposal to the Guggenheim Foundation. Garry was a no-nonsense, no bs photographer, didn’t come from privilege, just a humble person who loved to photograph. One of my favs, he had a lot of wisdom to impart when it came to talking about photography in general.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Very interesting, thank you for the insight Chris! Appreciate it :)

@JoeLopez Год назад

Nice job on this video. Thank you.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Joe!

@terenceflynn5125 6 месяцев назад

Every now and then I RU-vid one of the greats for a bit of inspiration. This young lady comes up a lot, and makes brilliant videos. Just subscribed. You’re brilliant!

@WatchesAndPhotography Год назад

YESSSSSSSS finally a video on Garry Winogrand 😊 my all time favourite photographer to me personally cheers Tatiana ☕️

@TatianaHopper Год назад

That's great more Winogrand to come for sure, thanks for watching Chris!

@ivotnunes 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@TatianaHopper 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching!

@nicktalerico8273 Год назад

Would love to see a video about a Winogrand book!

@GrenvilleMelonseedSkiff496 Год назад

More Winogrand … yes please!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Yes!

@mattbray_studio 8 месяцев назад

your videos are so good. thank you

@TatianaHopper 8 месяцев назад

Thank you 🙏🏻

@A-RA-N Год назад

I'm a fan of this photographer, he has something secret, especially the handling of his camera when he wants to take a picture and doesn't let go, he's really a master of street photography, he will remain one of the best in the street photo, thank you for this video

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you so much for watching! A real master indeed!

@silvestersze9968 Год назад

Thank you, Tatiana! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Silvester!

@TheAbennett72 Год назад

Great points and I will be returning to this video for reminders

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Adam!

@kennethakennetha Год назад

always delight to watch your videos! ❤

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Kenneth!

@DiegoMDeras Год назад

I love seeing videos about Winogrand, especially his color stuff which is pretty difficult to find online. I'd love to see a video on his photos from the book 1964. Nice work!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Yes that was my idea, need to get a hold of the book! Thank you for watching!

@SergeyZarin 9 месяцев назад

Tatiana thanx for the video!

@TatianaHopper 9 месяцев назад

🙏🏻

@richardsimms251 7 месяцев назад

Terrific video and educational experience. RS. Canada

@TatianaHopper 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching Richard!

@popularchipi Год назад

Gracias 🙏

@etiennededurocher 5 месяцев назад

thanks for the great content

@TatianaHopper 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching!

@endlichbilder Год назад

Soo good Contend - thank you very much.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you for watching!

@thomasrottkamp7079 Год назад

Yes! Definitely more Winogrand, please

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Roger that Thomas!

@thomasrottkamp7079 Год назад

@@TatianaHopper 😄

@andrewinnes479 Год назад

Thank you for another great video.

@oldhollywoodangels 3 месяца назад

Im so obsessed with this man

@duringthemeanwhilst Год назад

what a wonderful photographer. more? yes please!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

More coming! :)

@ashrafishak Год назад

Such an inspiring video for a person who is just starting photography. Thank you for a such a great content.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you for giving it a watch!

@DanScott1 Год назад

Thanks Tatiana, he tried, he really did, but could just not get along with this world. Only that pre-click moment of connection got him out there, after that, what's the point, a dreary every day conned-sumer reality that ate him up, literally. He was desparate to know himself in a world where almost no one does. He was a frustrated genius.

@DanScott1 8 месяцев назад

@@BrunoChalifour I infered from his interviews/life.

@DanScott1 8 месяцев назад

@@BrunoChalifour Whats your perspective on him then?

@theblackmanarmedwithacamera Год назад

ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS VIDEO!💯🤘🏾🤘🏾

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you!

@Studio-37 Год назад

More winogrand, please!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

For sure!

@silvestersze9968 Год назад

This’s a really inspirational lesson! And thx! 🎉

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you so much Silvester!

@silvestersze9968 Год назад

@@TatianaHopper … meow!

@refugeenius Год назад

Nobody can touch Winogrand. Raw humanity , electricity and poetry in every frame.

@silvestersze9968 Год назад

Amazing video and great mentor!! 🙌

@tychomagneticanomaly Год назад

Another excellent analysis, thank you. The footage of Winogrand in Venice is a lovely choice, reminded me of the two weeks I spent with the homeless community there, 10 years ago. I actually don't crop, but that may be related to my first job, graphic design. When designing a magazine spread, I touch an control every bit of information on the page, in camera I love to do that all in the single moment before the «click».

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you for watching Thorsten I appreciate it and cheers for sharing your insights!

@pepeye Год назад

While it is interesting to think about what I would generally categorize as the geometric aspects of his photographs, what is the most valuable lesson for me in his work is the importance of being able to recognize the drama and power of the subject matter present in front of you. Winogrand was such a master of recognizing the potential visual power of what was happening in front of him and then finding a way to construct a composition to take advantage of it. But the composition won't matter much if we're not seeing what is happening around us. See first, then shoot. That's the lesson for me in his work.

@gchristopherklug Год назад

Just found your channel. So much to think about.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Welcome aboard!

@gchristopherklug Год назад

@@TatianaHopper I went to your web site. Evocative self portrait but your portfolio was being worked on. Looking forward to seeing it.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

@@gchristopherklug yes I was changing a few things yesterday you can have a look now if you would like :)

@gchristopherklug Год назад

@@TatianaHopper I’ll go look today, hopefully. Your videos are so thoughtful. I’m going to work my way through them.

@TheFilmFellow Год назад

I sometimes use his “fiddling with my camera” technique out on the streets. It’s legit.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

I've also used that one before and it works!

@AbDaniel21 Год назад

very nice video tatjana, i love your content

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you!

@john-bloss Год назад

I’ve just discovered your channel and really like your insights into these great photos and photographers. I have always loved the work of W. Eugene Smith and think you could do a great video (or maybe two) on him. Definitely will recommend your channel to others.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you Jim! Welcome aboard and yes a video on W. Eugene Smith is in the pipeline!

@ashton1991 Год назад

This dude came into my film class recently who had done a short doc on this guy's time shooting the streets of Austin in the 70s.

@rajsingharora26 Год назад

Just wanted to tell you how important it is what you do for Photography....& especially when I get to relearn from the master's again.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you so much Raj, appreciate your words! Much love!

@ulfjonsson2122 Год назад

Another great video

@marco.mod65 Год назад

hi, i'm marco, i don't speak english, despite everything you are my favorite youtuber. your videos are well done. I am a great admirer of Herbert List, greetings from Italy.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Hey Marco, thank you so much, appreciate the kind words, grazie mille!

@afinacionymovimiento Год назад

Another vote for more Winogrand!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Roger that!

@joetrent4753 Год назад

I totally agree with the arguments against cropping. I use a 24mp camera so don't want to crop my images to a smaller mp. Secondly as stated in this video I have always wanted to make sure I capture the best image I can in camera without the need to crop out anything distracting or to crop for a better frame. I never in my time photographing considered cropping nor do I have any problem with people who do crop. It's too easy now to use a lot of digital tools to help fix less than perfectly composed images. Trying to get it right in camera, for me, is a really good discipline to learn.

@davidellinsworth3299 Год назад

What can you do with 24MP that you can't do with 20, 16, or even 12? I agree with getting it right in camera as much as possible, but seems strange that you think 24MP is barely enough

@joetrent4753 Год назад

@@davidellinsworth3299 24MP is a good sweet spot and I never said it's barely enough. Those are your words. 24MP is just about right. I also print my images so don't want to lose any detail cropping. Besides, not cropping my photos is mostly a good discipline I apply to myself to aim to compose the photo at the scene rather than in post.

@davidellinsworth3299 Год назад

@@joetrent4753 you said you don't want to crop your 24MP images because you don't want to lose any MP, which alludes to the exact same thing I said. How big do you print?

@Austinite333 Год назад

Garry wants folks to think he did not take a photo with his head shaking at the camera. He did😅. Thanks for this.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

ahahah I know I its hilarious!

@GaitaPonto Год назад

When you learn that Winogrand left 6 thousand rolls of undeveloped film when he died, I wonder how many of these pictures would be considered by the artist as good enough to be published or even shown. I am for cropping, recomposing, correcting the exposure or doing what is needed to make the image tell a story. You were there, you captured the moment, so you decide how you will present your work. I really can`t understand suggestions like "avoid cropping" as "rules" but only as advice to help you evolve and become more "SOOC" efficient. Good video as always.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

I agree, look at the end of the day if avoiding rules and cropping helps you, your work and following your path as a photographer fairplay to you, each to their own that's what I always say :)

@pamelasmith8652 Год назад

!!!!! JT

@geoffmphotography9444 Год назад

Interesting look at GW, thanks. Love the period music from the Hollies! Groovy. How about Lee Friedlander. Overlooked these days imo.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Groovy indeed, that's the kind of soundtrack I imagined the footage to have ahah, Friedlander, that would be great!

@FiqriHartono Год назад

more of Garrt Winogrand please

@FreezerKing Год назад

Regarding cropping, it's a tool like any other thing. Use it well and it's good, use it poorly and it sucks. It's a picture by picture sort of deal.

@lokyinphotography Год назад

I think a good picture usually comes with form and content all together. HCB once said the geometry is like perfume to him.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Very interesting!

@dmclaren93 Год назад

Just a heads up if you do plan on showing any Garry Winogrand book and you don't own any already good luck getting one, really really pricey. Though local libraries may be able to help you get your hands on one of his books. I had to do it so I could see Arrivals & Departures.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Yeah that's right, I was thinking of getting one from my local library to be honest, but let's see! :)

@thegenral Год назад

more gerry

@robertmchugh4639 Год назад

If the photo is too busy, why did you take the picture in the first place? (in reference to cropping).

@DioArt Год назад

Not to bad mouth, but Bresson did crop the "decisive moment " most well known pic. :)

@silvestersze9968 Год назад

You also mentioned Democratic Eye from another video. So, is Photographic Eye the same thing you are referring to? 🎉

@Ava-ph9vv Год назад

Would love to see more Winogrand - there's no such thing as too much Winogrand.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Agreed Ava!

@MilleIdeAlex Месяц назад

Practically Winegrand would be a bit like Lieutenant Columbus (Peter Falk) of photography, same clumsy way of doing things but attentive to details

@filmic1 Год назад

Nice, I never liked cropping. What draws you to focus and release the shutter is probably wrapped in context, that subconsciously drew me to aim and shoot in the first place. There might be a deeper story that I might only realized after I scanned my slide or negative. A photographer friend would say, oh 'I would have cropped that more tightly,' but then it's not the same photograph to me. I guess I'm looking for a story? defined by the form that drew me in the first place. It's all osmosis to me anyway. I liked what Barnett Newman said in Painters Painting. 'It's scale that counts.'

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Interesting thoughts!

@TheNitebinder Год назад

Winogrand was certainly a very eccentric photographer. After giving up fashion photography, all he concentrated on was 'photographing the world'. Which is ironic since after he died, thousands of undeveloped film rolls were found. Why take so many pictures, if you're not going to develop them? Good video otherwise. Would love to know the story behind the photo at 6:20!

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Thank you for watching funny enough you pointed that photo there was someone here in the comments that is related to that man and said he asked him but he didn't remember anything as we was older now.

@DanScott1 Год назад

It's the excitement up to the point of clicking, after that, next opportunity to click. All else is dust.

@javiera8782 Год назад

Once you think your done with a scene take 3 more photos

@Nepidemicofmannequins Год назад

💜💛💚🤎🖤🧡❤️

@nikaberzina2478 9 месяцев назад

Did he have any pseudonyme ?

@Owwliv Год назад

Cropping is such an interesting topic... I think it's perhaps a matter of doing it before you take a picture, pre-visualization if you will, or doing it after... What's looking through a viewfinder but cropping the world? With 35mm film, there is only so much resolution after all- you may as well crop before you click & use the whole negative. I wonder about those 6000 rolls- sometimes you know you've got something, and sometimes you know that you don't. Why bother developing it if you know it's not there? I don't take that much film, but, if I did, I wonder if I might just throw out rolls which I didn't think had anything of real value on them.... With film I try to just walk away if it wasn't a real picture, but, with street... I wonder how you'd even know it was bad with street- it all happens so fast.

@DannerPlace 21 день назад

Was Winogrand good at composition, or at editing/selecting from thousands of images shot in mostly haphazard fashion. I suggest it's the latter.

@LukeFranklin65 Год назад

Nice video about an inspiring photographer. However I’d like to disagree about cropping. I think it’s an important part of the process of creating a good story. Because of the instantaneous aspect of street photography one sometimes comes back with elements in the photo not needed and needs to be eliminated to retain the content and context.

@TatianaHopper Год назад

Absolutely, I say each with their own and there's no right or wrong about it, you just do you :)

@noahmizrahi9934 8 месяцев назад

I didn’t learn a single thing about composition other than it exists. Nice photos though.

@jamesnicol3831 Год назад

Do not think Gary would like the soundtrack

@jamesnicol3831 Год назад

The music I mean the commentary is good

@TatianaHopper Год назад

@@jamesnicol3831 ahah cheers james who knows he's not around anymore but I think it fits the era he worked in :) thank you for watching!

@andgainingspeed Год назад

I can't subscribe to a hard rule of not cropping but I can see why you always want to try to get the composition right SooC. Not cropping might serve as one of the limitations you impose to make yourself do things you might not otherwise, like getting closer to your subjects. But if getting closer makes you lose what you wanted in the image in the first place then it's self defeating. The flipside is losing the composition maybe because you are too far away to avoid uncontrollable elements moving into the composition. Or you have negative space unbalancing a composition or lose a hard perspective for a leading line. In street/candid/unstaged photography, with almost every element of the image will have to deal with some kind of tradeoff or compromise. Intentionality and practice can help you be ready for the decisive moment in an almost unconsciousness way. I imagine if you become a master, shots that you would have once considered lucky, become less rare.

@mikepenney5726 Год назад

Interesting guy... heavy volume shooter produces results... to a point... I can't stand watching him work... looks haphazard... Most importantly I believe he could not do what he did the way he did it in the current era. Getting in peoples' faces with a wide lens on the street these days would probably get you assaulted or worse.